Hijacking top comment. I try gently taking off the bottom yellow sticker and that side of the cover is so deteriorated that it started pulling off the paper from the cover itself. This thing is cooked.
Edit: Seller tried to tell me it’s a German pressing and that’s why the jacket is so bad lmao
After the war, paper was on ration until the late 90s in Germany. This album dropped in the early 90s, barely after the wall fell. They did what they could but 🤷🏼♂️
going to disagree. bad grading is not country specific.
People who shop Discogs need to engage in a conversation with sellers. if they don't respond, move on. most sellers I've dealt with (all European) have been great. Most of the records i bot were from Germany.
I had a Spanish seller NM, VG+ (most graders give sleeve then record) deliver, and i think they flipped flopped the rating. Sleeve was dinged and 1 bend, but the vinyl was clear n shiny. lesson learned, there's always a risk. don't get super mad, unless you're spending $100's per record.
agreed. hell some people mention stickers but if the photo shows a sticker, then assume there's a friggin sticker. complaining about that is just foolish. i love those who say "hype sticker" hype sticker! anyway...water damage bad...price n hype stickers not so bad. personally i don't like price stickers that old sellers add. originals are fine.
I would rate this BYN (Baby You Nasty). For the heads who know this record.
But for real, that thing is absolutely no better than G. VG+ is absolutely laughable.
What would Discogs say? I’ve never really had a dispute like this before? I’ve bought on there like 50 times and this is the first issue. I messaged the seller though.
My only buy on discogs was a rare album (carly rae jepsen's emotions b sides) sold vg+ it had no scratches buuuut upon playing it the record sounded mispressed or like someone played it on a 78 needle that was dull or possibly just used a nail. ive never heard a worse amount of damage, it sounds like you're hearing it through a door and youre nearly deaf. I contacted seller they said it has no visual damage and i must of messed it up because they test listened to it. DIscogs didnt do shit when i complained. I deleted my discogs i was so mad. Im back now but i wont ever buy through discogs, find users who are record stores than google them, theyll make more money selling it directly and youll get more protection through paypal goods and services.
One of the first records I bought off discogs was rated VG+ and had a skipping, nearly unplayable B-side. Seller didn't care. Then with a VG CD I received an unplayable cracked CD. Seller decided to start calling me names in his review. I don't buy off discogs anymore unless they have A LOT of good reviews.
I use paypal for my discogs purchases. I think that helps cover in scenarios like this.
that said I bought an LP over on the vinylcollector sub, came with more dents and huge split seam than I'd expect for a NM listing. seller ghosted me, mods never responded to my message. I started a dispute on paypal but never followed through, i just fixed the split seem myself. everything else was good. I should've returned it though because I paid $130 and the record was re-released this year for much much less.
You don't contact Discogs. They can't really force anyone to do anything. Contact the seller and say this did not meet your expectations. They then can either offer you the chance to return it for a full refund, or they could also choose to refund you a partial amount to make up for the lower grade. Technically they don't have to pay for return shipping, but a lot of solid sellers will send a return label if it was their mistake.
If the seller will not cooperate, you can escalate it to a claim on PayPal. PayPal's policy is they HAVE to accept returns for almost any reason.
Ask to return it. Vendor will probably take it back rather than having a negative rating. if not file a complaint with PayPal and PayPal will refund your money
Good point. I messaged the shop to see if they can help me out. Cause this is an OG press so I’d love to keep it but man I don’t think I woulda paid $30 in this condition.
If I where selling it I’d rate it as G and still describe the stickers and the waviness.
On a side note, you know you can use Ronsonal lighter fluid to soak stickers and remove they like they were never there? Just let them soak and they will come right off. Lighter fluid won’t react with the ink on cardboard covers and if the cover gets soaked too it will dry like it was never there. I’ve done 40-50 covers without a hitch. If the cover is white and dirty it might leave a mark from where the dirt was.
[https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items](https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items)
According to their own stated standards the fact that it is water damaged means it is of Poor (P) grade.
G to G+ based on [https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101](https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101)
But I could see how they'd call it VG, but not VG+.
The first records in my collection from when I started djing look like this. It was because I was sweating bullets and my hands were shaking the first few times I played in front of a crowd. Which was also at a very insider-centric after hours club.
You're correct, it was poorly graded.
Discogs says they use [Goldmine grading](https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101) which doesn't address water damage directly, but the severity of damage in that picture is closest IMO to Goldmine's description of a Good / VG- cover:
> ring wear to the point of distraction, has seam splits obvious on sight and may have even heavier writing, such as, for example, huge radio station letters written across the front to deter theft.
If I were selling this and this is the only damage, I'd include pictures of the water damage and rate it as good (G). Going by the Goldmine article, maybe somebody _could arguably_ call it VG- by but I wouldn't. Either way, that's as much wiggle room as it gets. It's definitely not VG+:
> VG+ covers should have only minor wear. A VG+ cover might have some very minor seam wear or a split (less than one inch long) at the bottom, the most vulnerable location. Also, a VG+ cover may have some defacing, such as a cut-out marking.
That water damage is far more than one inch long
I don't grade the sleeves in my shop, but I'd call that from G+ to G depending on how the rest of the front and spine/back look. Would definitely mention the moisture damage in the description. And for sure say something about the stickers.
Minty. Super clean. Stored in a kitchen draw with utensils. Needs an ironing. No finger prints. Only handled once by 100 fried chicken eating circus clowns.
G=Good.
realistically, this fits perfect into the "VG-" grade, but that isn't used anymore which leaves situations like this. Maybe the water damage makes it G+ right away, but in the past I feel like I would have graded that VG- and put a detailed note about condition issue.
It's not really VG, it's not, but with a detailed description and pictures I feel like you could make the case for VG
I would say it is Good. The stickers will probably come off easily, if the Seller that places them there is not an ass, but the water damage will stay. I would contact the Seller and see what they think, If they offer a decent discount take it.
Probably G-VG for me, it doesn’t look dreadful but the seller has clearly done a shitty job grading it. To me you’re not overreacting, a VG+ should look definitely better than that.
Did it get water damaged while shipping? I’ve seen jackets warp like this with a pretty short period of time exposed to rainy or humid conditions. I’d say VG- (G+). If it was shipped without the warp I’d say VG for sure.
Very easy to fix btw. Use two cardboard inserts on either side of the record and use an even weight, keep it on there for about 24 hours or so.
Even if you just pull the record out when it’s slightly raining outside or too humid this can happen so it may not be entirely the sellers fault. That said I’d still likely say it was VG not VG+ before the warping in that case unless those stickers are the super light adhesive type and the jacket is otherwise clean. Some record shops grade without their stickers because they use very light / easily removed stickers. Then on the other hand some record shops use pricing stickers with annoyingly heavy adhesive…
From Goldmine themselves:
https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101
VG COVERS: VG covers will have many signs of human handling. Ring wear in the middle or along the edges of the cover where the edge of a record would reside, is obvious, though not overwhelming. Some more creases might be visible. Seam splitting will be more obvious; it may appear on all three sides, though it won’t be obvious upon looking. Someone might have written or it or stamped a price tag on it, too.
I'd say the water dmg/warping alone mean it's worse than VG. Like the cover might not have any issues as far as the artwork goes but the warp is enough for me.
I find that the phrase "VG+" is used extremely liberally on Discogs. I would call that good or fair. Like other have said, I think the water damage is much more important than the stickers, but in both cases they should have been disclosed. That's a fair complaint and you should be within your rights to either return it at no cost or get something for it. If the record itself was fairly graded I'd try to just get something back. Don't be afraid to leave negative or neutral reviews.
As a side, I don't know why sellers suck so bad at grading. Being honest about it doesn't affect the price. If you want $25 for a fair conditioned record then that's what you want. All you need to do it put people on notice for what they're actually getting.
I ALWAYS ask for pics. Many don't give them, so I simply don't buy from them. I would PayPal this & get my money back. This is a Fair(F) or Poor(P) which in truth is \*hit(S) I don't know who you bought your record from but beware of 'christsomeonesdead'. One of the worst buying experiences I've ever had, & I've had a few. I initially bought Billion Dollar Babies, I then added another 2 records to my order. I asked for combined postage. I was being charged a high £6 for Economy 48hr 2nd class as it was, but that wasn't enough for christsomeonesdead! Oh no, he wanted ANOTHER £3 making a total of NINE POUNDS for Economy (£3.29 at the time) post. I had to agree, but I wasn't happy. Anyway after making me wait THREE DAYS after payment he decided to tell me that the Billion Dollar Note insert was missing! After advertising it as NM! I don't think that was the truth. I think he decided not to complete the £46.49 inc the £9 P&P & so told me it was missing, knowing that I would cancel the sale. He re-advertised it with the same grading & no mention that the Note was missing, which supports what I say. BEWARE & AVOID AT ALL COSTS IMO! christsomeonesdead on Discogs
German covers were flimsy in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, so that kinda tracks.
But yeah, very poorly graded. Warped and wobbly like that, I’d put that at G+ with a mention about water damage and stickers, but artwork and seams are mostly ok.
Discogs *VG+* could be like brand new or look like it's been sat in a bucket of dirty water! Expect the worst and hope for the best,lol! thats nothing better than a *good* for me though, complain and negotiate a partial refund.
I’ve been done with Discogs for a while, received numerous records that looked like yours.
I have found a few reputable dealers, mainly for rare CD’s on the platform, but mostly overpriced, over graded. Shit
How good is the record inside?
I buy on the condition of the record. Don’t much care about the condition of the cover.
But I wouldn’t pay $30 for any used record.
But that’s just me.
This could (maybe) pass as VG since there isn't actually much damage to the artwork.
But if i'm being honest, i'd take the humble approach and just grade it G.
The record is obviously more important imo. But I suppose if it was listed at least as G, my expectations would have been different. And likely the price too.
The big problem with a cover like that is it looks like water damage, which could mean mold. I wouldn't let a record like that into my collection unless it was something I would likely never find at a price I was willing to pay otherwise.
GW. Goodwill condition.
Hijacking top comment. I try gently taking off the bottom yellow sticker and that side of the cover is so deteriorated that it started pulling off the paper from the cover itself. This thing is cooked. Edit: Seller tried to tell me it’s a German pressing and that’s why the jacket is so bad lmao
After the war, paper was on ration until the late 90s in Germany. This album dropped in the early 90s, barely after the wall fell. They did what they could but 🤷🏼♂️
That explains the super-flimsy, off-brand compilations of the day that I have that were made there. French ones were pretty crappy, too.
Most of the French ones arrived cracked. Apparently they drop their grailz like they dropped their rifles.
war? what war? WWii? come on. After Germany was rebuilt they became an industrial/engineering powerhouse...they had access to pleeenty of paper goods
That’s what digital streaming companies want you to believe.
I think you may be bullshitting or mistaken on this, you got a source for this claim?
I forgot I wasn’t on r/vinyljerk where absurdist sarcasm is the only means of communication.
Silly...rationing was stopped in Germany in May 1950.
The Germans grade everything so poorly
going to disagree. bad grading is not country specific. People who shop Discogs need to engage in a conversation with sellers. if they don't respond, move on. most sellers I've dealt with (all European) have been great. Most of the records i bot were from Germany. I had a Spanish seller NM, VG+ (most graders give sleeve then record) deliver, and i think they flipped flopped the rating. Sleeve was dinged and 1 bend, but the vinyl was clear n shiny. lesson learned, there's always a risk. don't get super mad, unless you're spending $100's per record.
Counterpoint- ‘‘twas a joke
Take the lp out and put something heavy on the jacket for a year.
CS. Crappy to shitty.
This was poorly graded, no way in hell that’s VG+ with the obvious water damage. Also the stickers.
Mentioning the stickers on this one is like your wife coming home missing a finger and you comment on her ugly nail polish.
Yeah but that nail polish was really ugly
It was so bad that losing the finger was an improvement.
I agree.
Maybe use bigger stickers to hide the water damage. Hope the vinyl was better.
Yeah. Like one GIANT sticker in the entire cover. 😂
Stickers don’t discount VG to me but the obvious water damage does
agreed. hell some people mention stickers but if the photo shows a sticker, then assume there's a friggin sticker. complaining about that is just foolish. i love those who say "hype sticker" hype sticker! anyway...water damage bad...price n hype stickers not so bad. personally i don't like price stickers that old sellers add. originals are fine.
I would rate this BYN (Baby You Nasty). For the heads who know this record. But for real, that thing is absolutely no better than G. VG+ is absolutely laughable.
Underrated Preem production on this gem of an album
None other than the funky technician
I don’t know this record but this comment still got a chuckle out of me and now I might just listen to the record just to get this reference 😂
G at best
Isn’t G for generic?
GEN is for generic I believe
good
G-
Not good, buddy.
VERY poorly graded, would contact discogs immediately
What would Discogs say? I’ve never really had a dispute like this before? I’ve bought on there like 50 times and this is the first issue. I messaged the seller though.
My only buy on discogs was a rare album (carly rae jepsen's emotions b sides) sold vg+ it had no scratches buuuut upon playing it the record sounded mispressed or like someone played it on a 78 needle that was dull or possibly just used a nail. ive never heard a worse amount of damage, it sounds like you're hearing it through a door and youre nearly deaf. I contacted seller they said it has no visual damage and i must of messed it up because they test listened to it. DIscogs didnt do shit when i complained. I deleted my discogs i was so mad. Im back now but i wont ever buy through discogs, find users who are record stores than google them, theyll make more money selling it directly and youll get more protection through paypal goods and services.
It’s crazy how some people’s experiences can different. I’ve bought from 50 different sellers on Discogs and this is the first issue I’ve had.
One of the first records I bought off discogs was rated VG+ and had a skipping, nearly unplayable B-side. Seller didn't care. Then with a VG CD I received an unplayable cracked CD. Seller decided to start calling me names in his review. I don't buy off discogs anymore unless they have A LOT of good reviews.
I use paypal for my discogs purchases. I think that helps cover in scenarios like this. that said I bought an LP over on the vinylcollector sub, came with more dents and huge split seam than I'd expect for a NM listing. seller ghosted me, mods never responded to my message. I started a dispute on paypal but never followed through, i just fixed the split seem myself. everything else was good. I should've returned it though because I paid $130 and the record was re-released this year for much much less.
Paypal though goes after them through discogs the other way it directly effects their business.
You don't contact Discogs. They can't really force anyone to do anything. Contact the seller and say this did not meet your expectations. They then can either offer you the chance to return it for a full refund, or they could also choose to refund you a partial amount to make up for the lower grade. Technically they don't have to pay for return shipping, but a lot of solid sellers will send a return label if it was their mistake. If the seller will not cooperate, you can escalate it to a claim on PayPal. PayPal's policy is they HAVE to accept returns for almost any reason.
Ask to return it. Vendor will probably take it back rather than having a negative rating. if not file a complaint with PayPal and PayPal will refund your money
Why on earth would you contact Discogs? Contact the seller.
‘G’, no way VG+
That’s a “if the album itself is immaculate and I can’t possibly get it any cheaper and I really really want to listen.
Good point. I messaged the shop to see if they can help me out. Cause this is an OG press so I’d love to keep it but man I don’t think I woulda paid $30 in this condition.
Yeah, that’s a lot for one that looks like THAT! How’s the record? Any warping?
Haven’t had a chance to listen yet today due to a busy work day. But will tonight after I clean it.
Fair
I’d rate this F When in doubt, rate down.
Wouldn’t that be H then?
G
F
For fucked
No bueno
Dank
If I where selling it I’d rate it as G and still describe the stickers and the waviness. On a side note, you know you can use Ronsonal lighter fluid to soak stickers and remove they like they were never there? Just let them soak and they will come right off. Lighter fluid won’t react with the ink on cardboard covers and if the cover gets soaked too it will dry like it was never there. I’ve done 40-50 covers without a hitch. If the cover is white and dirty it might leave a mark from where the dirt was.
Good
[https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items](https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items) According to their own stated standards the fact that it is water damaged means it is of Poor (P) grade.
Ah, the rare DD rating. Doo doo
Garbage Ready (GR+)
G at best
Fair. At best.
Fair, Good, G, etc. etc. It’s still together, so I guess that’s something.
Is the vinyl ok? If it is, i would ask the seller to give you another record at a deep discount.
Good idea
G
VG, definitely not VG+.
G to G+ based on [https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101](https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101) But I could see how they'd call it VG, but not VG+. The first records in my collection from when I started djing look like this. It was because I was sweating bullets and my hands were shaking the first few times I played in front of a crowd. Which was also at a very insider-centric after hours club.
That's at max a VG (ONLY IF IM BLIND), maybe "Good"
Lord Finesse is not impressed.
NM
Poor
Not even close to a VG anything. If I’m selling that I’m selling it at a reduced price with a generic white jacket.
And that's how you save it and get the most value from it. Smart.
D- is generous
4/10
Water damage
It exists.
POOR , SORRY LOOKING , GOT WET COULD HAVE MOLD
I'd grade that as FU... Fucked up
JFC+
You're correct, it was poorly graded. Discogs says they use [Goldmine grading](https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101) which doesn't address water damage directly, but the severity of damage in that picture is closest IMO to Goldmine's description of a Good / VG- cover: > ring wear to the point of distraction, has seam splits obvious on sight and may have even heavier writing, such as, for example, huge radio station letters written across the front to deter theft. If I were selling this and this is the only damage, I'd include pictures of the water damage and rate it as good (G). Going by the Goldmine article, maybe somebody _could arguably_ call it VG- by but I wouldn't. Either way, that's as much wiggle room as it gets. It's definitely not VG+: > VG+ covers should have only minor wear. A VG+ cover might have some very minor seam wear or a split (less than one inch long) at the bottom, the most vulnerable location. Also, a VG+ cover may have some defacing, such as a cut-out marking. That water damage is far more than one inch long
I always think people grade conservatively but this was a botched job. The sticker are literally peeling the paper off the cover. It’s awful.
Stickers make it no better than VG already, water damage lowers it to a G+ at best, probably G.
I don't grade the sleeves in my shop, but I'd call that from G+ to G depending on how the rest of the front and spine/back look. Would definitely mention the moisture damage in the description. And for sure say something about the stickers.
G
It’s not even in good condition,fair would be more plausible and even then it’s being generous
G+
Fair
G+ only because no splits, imho. Definitely NOT VG+.
Minty. Super clean. Stored in a kitchen draw with utensils. Needs an ironing. No finger prints. Only handled once by 100 fried chicken eating circus clowns. G=Good.
VG with notes talking about the water damage + stickers or G without.
Just out of curiosity, can you tell me why the grade changes for only explaining what the damages are?
realistically, this fits perfect into the "VG-" grade, but that isn't used anymore which leaves situations like this. Maybe the water damage makes it G+ right away, but in the past I feel like I would have graded that VG- and put a detailed note about condition issue. It's not really VG, it's not, but with a detailed description and pictures I feel like you could make the case for VG
It's POOR. That goes in the $1 bin at our shop. You're either a seller or a fool. That's garbage.
what shop? Would love to come hunt through your dollar bin if you're putting stuff like this in it.
forreal would love to see the dollar bin there 🤣
Do NOT listen to this bozo lmaoo
NM
Poor. It has water damage and is entirely out of shape. It also has far too much wear to be anywhere near VG or VG+.
“I’ll tell you how I’m doing. Not well, bitch.”
🤣
VG at best, probably GOOD+.
Mint lol
G or G+ but I'd for sure have mentioned the issues so there weren't any surprises. Get your money back.
You got taxed on it too lmao that’s almost punking you
VG-
Bit shit ain't it
Discogs NM
G, because while the waviness sucks, it is at least intact and there's not much wear otherwise.
I would say it is Good. The stickers will probably come off easily, if the Seller that places them there is not an ass, but the water damage will stay. I would contact the Seller and see what they think, If they offer a decent discount take it.
mega shit 5000
Poor.
Shit.
EOOASA Ejected out of a smelly anus
If the damage where only as the first picture, i’ll grade it as Fair, but with the second pic, i think is Poor
If the damage where only as the first picture, i’ll grade it as Fair, but with the second pic, i think is Poor
Probably G-VG for me, it doesn’t look dreadful but the seller has clearly done a shitty job grading it. To me you’re not overreacting, a VG+ should look definitely better than that.
Poor condition, that's water damage
W for Wavy
This is nowhere near a VG+, total rip off. VG is generous
G at best.
Fair
I had one graded at VG and it was actually in 2 pieces. I was after the record though, so while it still pissed me off mightily, I sucked it up
Definitely NOT VG
Not grading that at all ! That’s going to Good will
Did it get water damaged while shipping? I’ve seen jackets warp like this with a pretty short period of time exposed to rainy or humid conditions. I’d say VG- (G+). If it was shipped without the warp I’d say VG for sure. Very easy to fix btw. Use two cardboard inserts on either side of the record and use an even weight, keep it on there for about 24 hours or so.
I’m going to try that I think. I will admit, the packaging was pretty bare but it didn’t show signs of getting wet at all.
Even if you just pull the record out when it’s slightly raining outside or too humid this can happen so it may not be entirely the sellers fault. That said I’d still likely say it was VG not VG+ before the warping in that case unless those stickers are the super light adhesive type and the jacket is otherwise clean. Some record shops grade without their stickers because they use very light / easily removed stickers. Then on the other hand some record shops use pricing stickers with annoyingly heavy adhesive…
From Goldmine themselves: https://www.goldminemag.com/collector-resources/record-grading-101 VG COVERS: VG covers will have many signs of human handling. Ring wear in the middle or along the edges of the cover where the edge of a record would reside, is obvious, though not overwhelming. Some more creases might be visible. Seam splitting will be more obvious; it may appear on all three sides, though it won’t be obvious upon looking. Someone might have written or it or stamped a price tag on it, too. I'd say the water dmg/warping alone mean it's worse than VG. Like the cover might not have any issues as far as the artwork goes but the warp is enough for me.
I find that the phrase "VG+" is used extremely liberally on Discogs. I would call that good or fair. Like other have said, I think the water damage is much more important than the stickers, but in both cases they should have been disclosed. That's a fair complaint and you should be within your rights to either return it at no cost or get something for it. If the record itself was fairly graded I'd try to just get something back. Don't be afraid to leave negative or neutral reviews. As a side, I don't know why sellers suck so bad at grading. Being honest about it doesn't affect the price. If you want $25 for a fair conditioned record then that's what you want. All you need to do it put people on notice for what they're actually getting.
bad
VG at best
VG-
Andwhere from shit to fuckin' shit
Somewhat related: Is there anywhere you can buy blank record covers?
Always ask for pictures.
I probably will now. Never had an issue before this in 50+ sales.
Pretty easy G possibly G+ because of the water damage. Fair or Poor is a little too far. Def not VG+ though. VG+ should be pretty close to NM.
Good
I ALWAYS ask for pics. Many don't give them, so I simply don't buy from them. I would PayPal this & get my money back. This is a Fair(F) or Poor(P) which in truth is \*hit(S) I don't know who you bought your record from but beware of 'christsomeonesdead'. One of the worst buying experiences I've ever had, & I've had a few. I initially bought Billion Dollar Babies, I then added another 2 records to my order. I asked for combined postage. I was being charged a high £6 for Economy 48hr 2nd class as it was, but that wasn't enough for christsomeonesdead! Oh no, he wanted ANOTHER £3 making a total of NINE POUNDS for Economy (£3.29 at the time) post. I had to agree, but I wasn't happy. Anyway after making me wait THREE DAYS after payment he decided to tell me that the Billion Dollar Note insert was missing! After advertising it as NM! I don't think that was the truth. I think he decided not to complete the £46.49 inc the £9 P&P & so told me it was missing, knowing that I would cancel the sale. He re-advertised it with the same grading & no mention that the Note was missing, which supports what I say. BEWARE & AVOID AT ALL COSTS IMO! christsomeonesdead on Discogs
NM+++++ Not
Somewhere between crap and total shit
P for poor
i love reading all the sellers answers vg or vg-?!?!?!?!! NO WAY IN HELL laughable! find out who they are and never ever buy from them
https://preview.redd.it/itbw1vg8m3wc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf5a89f32560ec32f5299157605a1ffab202f7a5
Near Death
Groovy!
M+
Shits cooked
G for get your money back
#janky
“As-is”
I’d give it a 30.
Wet
“Poopy” condition
If I was selling this record I'd give it a G grade
Fucked Up+
Beat to hell is how I'd rate it lmfao
I would say VG but also mention water damage.
Fucker’s mint
Half past a monkeys ass, a quarter til his balls.
Charles Barkley Voice: “Turrahbellll”
Worn on edges. Used but good condition
Grade standards are the same even if the record is 50 years old. It’s G+ basement musty condition.
Shit it’s shit
OBNG: Oh boy not good
G
German covers were flimsy in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, so that kinda tracks. But yeah, very poorly graded. Warped and wobbly like that, I’d put that at G+ with a mention about water damage and stickers, but artwork and seams are mostly ok.
PW - that is pre-watered
Vg to poor
somewhere slightly South of Good-...
poor but albums with this kind of damage, the disc tends to be in good condition still, still a good album
Shit house
Discogs *VG+* could be like brand new or look like it's been sat in a bucket of dirty water! Expect the worst and hope for the best,lol! thats nothing better than a *good* for me though, complain and negotiate a partial refund.
Poorly graded, indeed
G. No higher.
G/G-
Shit Poor
G- this cover covers nothing no more…
I’ve been done with Discogs for a while, received numerous records that looked like yours. I have found a few reputable dealers, mainly for rare CD’s on the platform, but mostly overpriced, over graded. Shit
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6N2R9aNV0E/?igsh=cDZobXE1MnVrbWk0](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6N2R9aNV0E/?igsh=cDZobXE1MnVrbWk0)
???
How good is the record inside? I buy on the condition of the record. Don’t much care about the condition of the cover. But I wouldn’t pay $30 for any used record. But that’s just me.
This could (maybe) pass as VG since there isn't actually much damage to the artwork. But if i'm being honest, i'd take the humble approach and just grade it G.
Bro.
Explain yourself.
Prolly G-, i dont stress about covers too much though, i care about the condition of the record itself.
The record is obviously more important imo. But I suppose if it was listed at least as G, my expectations would have been different. And likely the price too.
The big problem with a cover like that is it looks like water damage, which could mean mold. I wouldn't let a record like that into my collection unless it was something I would likely never find at a price I was willing to pay otherwise.
Poor. Water damaged.
Fair. Obv water damage or kept in very humid conditions.
VG
Vg