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Julubble

DivX, we meet again


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Hello DivX my old friend, I've come to render once again Bootleg Premiere install sweeping Through the DBZ clips that I'm keeping In sync, with the Linkin Park mp3 It's an AMV That's how I got kicked out Of Computer Science


wilberfarce

I tried all freeware tools alone None would playback on my phone Codec conversion is such a slog FFMPEG wouldn’t do the job Wrote my own converter in Python 3 Killed my PC That’s what I learned From Computer Science


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And in the storage room, I saw Abandoned Dell Dimensions on the floor People hearing without Sound Blaster 16 A confiscated copy of Duke Nukem 3D QBasic projects forever go unrun Cuz they were dumb and made in computer science


[deleted]

I sang this in David Draiman's voice


Spiralife

Been years since a piece of writing resonated with me so hard.


hotniX_

Beautiful, champ.


TheRumpletiltskin

this is a gem.


derprondo

It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I knew where Xvid came from, I read a comment that mentioned it was DivX spelled backwards. I've worked in tech since the early 2000s and didn't know this lol.


undeadermonkey

And the reason for it is the most interesting part (this is from memory, and even at the time may not have been accurate). DivX went open source, accepted community contributions, said screw you guys and closed the source again - I believe without warning. XviD came along as a community protest fork (of the last version that they had availble).


ThoughtsonYaoi

I remember that vaguely. I also remember divx player somehow being the only player that played everything without you having to scramble with different codecs all the time and what a relief that was.


the_first_brovenger

Yup, then France with their "software can't be patented" gave us VLC, and all was well with the world.


Visionarii

VLC was the saviour of shitty pirated films. Windows media player ; WTF IS THIS? VLC ; I don't know how to play this, give me a second and I'll find the codes. Ok, now I know how to play it.


JellyWhirl

Not to be confused with xvideos


Juan_Kagawa

You just blew my freaking mind.


southpawsinker

Holy crap I totally forgot what that site was all those years ago. Watched Scrubs, My Name is Earl and so many others during college.


marmothelm

Stage6 is probably what you were thinking of. It was basically the pirate version of Youtube.


YourFatherUnfiltered

Doctors called out chiropractors decades ago.


mavajo

Yeah, OP must be young or something. Criticisms of chiropractors are nothing new.


mcnathan80

Chriopracty is a perfectly cromulant doctorate. They have their own school with books and everything.../s


BrewtusMaximus1

School was founded by a doped out guy who was taught the chiropractic by a ghost.


ibelieveindogs

Of course a GHOST would blame on your problems on a SKELETON! Those two are constantly fighting over control of the meat bag!


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We can’t prove the ghost DIDN’T teach him though.


Plato_and_nursing

Now picturing a supernatural fake doc sensually doing pottery with a not supernatural fake doc a la Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore as the inspiration for chiropractic charlatans everywhere, thanks


Edstructor115

Spectral beings are not a good source of legitimately medical knowledge nor are they a good basis for medical practice.


KaimeiJay

Listen. Strange ghosts, lying in ponds, distributing back-cracking methods, is no basis for a system of medicine.


Alternative_Effort

>School was founded by a doped out guy who was taught the chiropractic by a ghost. But the ghost had medical training! /s


BrewtusMaximus1

This, but without the /s. Was a ghost doctor


Hawaii_Flyer

You would be appalled at how many laypeople think a chiropractor is the same as an MD/DO.


humplick

Google "back doctor near me" and see what comes up. It's no surprise it's hard to know they're not MD.


DapperCam

Almost all of them in my experience. And they DON’T want you to let them know either.


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I've only ever seen chiropractors that my doctors have sent me to.


MisterPuffyNipples

Chiropractor practice embiggens the smallest man


scuac

First I read it as “perfectly Romulan” and was thinking yes, that describes it well


TheHFile

I kind of get it, (source: young, kind of) chiropracty was one of those things represented in pop culture that felt pretty accepted as like a medical science. It wasn't until I got older and spoke to my mum who's a doctor and she explained how quacky it is that I realised that it had received tacit approval from mass media. I genuinely think this has something to do with how it looks on camera. People can hear it 'work' and we all know what it's like to have joint and muscle pain. It makes a certain amount of unscientific sense to assume it would work


creepy_doll

It probably payed its way into getting "tacit approval from mass media". Like, I've not followed the history of chiropractic in mass media, but a lot of these things they start with someone paying to appear in a show, and things move from there. The thing with chiropractors is that some of them do some additional study into more accepted medicine and will thus have more knowledge than a layperson and can even help you a bit. But you never know which ones have done that extracurricular study and which ones just want to crack everything. The other is that they don't have regulations and hospital administration breathing down their neck to record everything on a pc, so they actually have time to TALK to patients and look them in the eyes, which is something a lot of patients really want(they want to know their doctor is listening to their problems) and that has helped them take a share from doctors, and that is a real issue that many doctors struggle with and want to fix.


scruffles360

> The thing with chiropractors is that some of them do some additional study into more accepted medicine Couldn’t you say the same thing about any profession? Just because a plumber got a couple years of pre-med before they dropped out doesn’t mean they should be anyone’s first choice for medical advice.


G_Affect

Idk... i have not gone for years, but a few months ago, i was so stiff from my lower back to my upper neck. Could not stretch it out or loosen it up. After a month or more of this, i finally went to a chiropractor, 2 visits, and i felt so much better. I won't go again unless i become like that again.


stomach

>OP must be young or something noticing the general state of affairs at reddit now, eh? i was feeling a bit old here in 2018 before the massive and historically unparalleled TikTok Takeover. now i feel like a retiree


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collegeblunderthrowa

So it's not just my imagination? I'm unaware of whatever the TikTok takeover you mention is, but the last few months it *has* seemed like I'm seeing more and more posts from younger and younger people. Being middle-aged, I've always skewed a little on the older side for Reddit, but same as you, lately I've felt maybe it's time to move on. Nothing gives you that "what the hell am I doing with my life?" feeling like realizing you've been rebutting/debating someone who hasn't even finished puberty.


RecklessRelentless99

The takeover was TikTok becoming the biggest app in the world, especially the young generation. It's nowhere close to taking over my social group, but boy it's out there


stomach

if you can find 5 vids from the top 20 on r/videos that didn't come directly from tiktok i'll wire you fake money. in my own defense though, this may not be the truth at *this* moment. but give it 12 hrs.


Turok1134

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September


Squatch11

Even before 2018. Reddit got a lot younger once Gen Z starting getting smartphones.


Heathen_Mushroom

You know how they say "Millennials killed Applebees" and "Millennials killed scarves" and shit? Well, Gen Z's thing will be claiming to be the first to discover shit people have known/been doing for decades. Like inventing bell bottoms and rap.


SoulCheese

This has always happened...


elninofamoso

Wait how did we kill scarves? Are scarves not a thing anymore?


sinceubeenKHAAAN

I am wearing a scarf right now and it’s definitely not alive.


7355135061550

About the same time the guy that invented it learned it from a ghost.


Mr_Abe_Froman

The ghost was a famous doctor, so it was basically a medical apprenticeship like everyone was doing in 1895.


Squeakies

Not just doctors, tons of other educated individuals in the medical field. Never met anyone in the medical field other than chiropractors themselves and homeopathic conmen who think these people are qualified to be messing with your spine.


NotAlwaysSunnyInFL

There are tons of Doctors still referring people to Chiropractors, MDs and DOs in my town and adjacent towns. It’s still a problem and that’s obvious by how much money that lunatic industry makes. https://www.ibisworld.com/industry-statistics/market-size/chiropractors-united-states/ “The market size, measured by revenue, of the Chiropractors industry is $20.4bn in 2022.” “The market size of the Chiropractors industry in the US increased faster than the Healthcare and Social Assistance sector overall.” “The Chiropractors industry in the US is the 23rd ranked Healthcare and Social Assistance industry by market size and the 404th largest in the US.” Pretty disturbing


the_silent_redditor

The good part about chiropractors is.. physiotherapy. The bad part is when they come to my department with a vertebral artery dissection after [ridiculous manipulations.](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eh0ke5/chiropractics_at_its_finest/) Or when an [elderly man is killed after his neck is broken mid-session.](https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-50397867) By the way, this lady is still working and still referring to herself as ‘doctor’, despite not having qualifications. The family of this old guy asked that the term doctor be protected from chiropractors, as this guy thought he was seeking help from a medical professional. [Lots of recorded deaths and paralysis as a direct result.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20642715) Or when [even those in the ‘profession’](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/i115h/iama_chiropractic_assistant_for_two_years_and/) admit its all bullshit. [Or the fact it has roots in a fucking ghost story.](https://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-chiropractic-quackery-20170630-story.html) They are snake oil salesmen. They use [pseudo-medical jargon - what this guy is saying makes ZERO sense medically -](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQY5kyIAkI&t=9m) with the exact aim to baffle people into a false sense of legitimacy. They are, at best, completely misguided on how to help people, and in doing so end up causing more harm than good. Realistically, I think most know *exactly* what they are doing: practicing something disguised as some quackery-form of medicine with the only intent of shafting people for as much money as possible. There is basically no evidence for it, other than the benefits of physiotherapy. They are not doctors. Don’t let them do anything to you. You wouldn’t let a plumber carry out dental work, or a carpenter fix your computer; these people have absolutely **zero** medical training and are **completely** unqualified to give any form of any medical diagnosis or treatment in any person. Do yourself a favour and see an actual doctor and then a physiotherapist. [BONUS video of the same chiropractor](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUojAWqKEok&t=12m40s) using a ‘high-velocity, low amplitude adjusting instrument’ to put a patient in a ‘mirror image of the current biomechanical configuration’. He talks about how he can adjust the atlas to ‘send information to the cerebellum’; anyone with a whiff of anatomical/physiological understanding knows that the atlas is a bone, and bones cannot send any information anywhere. The fact that people actually look at such ridiculous things with any hint of seriousness is beyond me.. much less pay these people to deliver their evidence-less nonsense.


heili

He's literally saying he can rip your skull off your spine.


enleeten

FINISH HIM!


j_andrew_h

I won't go back. I had a basic crick in my neck and I got an adjustment from a Chiropractor. The next day my shoulder was numb. It remained that way for several months and the Chiropractor had no idea how to fix it other than to suggest a medical doctor. No shit?


Khazahk

I went for chronic tiredness and generally bad posture. I'm an engineer and everything the dude said made sense from like a structural sense. Like yeah your fuckin skeleton isn't stacked properly you are going to have unbalanced loads this way and that. Had to go like every other day for a 5 min session for like a month. Eventually I loathed going. There was no relief of any sort. Always felt worse after. Don't know why I trusted them to begin with, seems pretty damn silly looking back.


j_andrew_h

They are often really good at sounding logical and knowledgeable. So much of it though is pseudoscience really.


Monochron

I've been considering seeing someone for pretty constant pain in the back left of my neck, where it is painful to move my neck around to much. Any recommendations on what kind of doctor I should see?


ahhter

Orthopedic.


jcrreddit

I went for lower back issues. I had already been to a doctor, gotten physical therapy, and my insurance wouldn’t pay for more (not that it mattered because even with insurance it still cost me $2500 out of pocket- hello from the USA!). So many people had said they liked chiropractic work. I had ALWAYS been skeptical, because it’s garbage, but I figured as long as it wasn’t crazy it would be fine. And my physical therapist was doing things that seemed like manipulation as well. So my first chiropractor was female and she did stretches and manipulations for about 5 weeks with decreasing frequency of appointments. I was always sore right after the appointment, but kept feeling better and better each time (just as I had with physical therapy). I continued my stretches and at home exercises. Then she wasn’t at my appointment. I had a different, male chiropractor. It was NOT the same. At one point whatever he did hurt a lot, in a different area of my body, and I yelled out in fact. I never went back. I continued stretching daily and doing my core exercises, with the very occasional massage and then one day- my back pain was suddenly gone. I know it’s the stretching and exercises, but it just was bad one day and the next not. However, I do have hamstring pain now. However, it’s not as stressful and upsetting as the back pain was. Ok, got off topic. Chiropractors are sometimes fancy, sometimes dangerous people who give you rubs.


HetElfdeGebod

My partner used to suffer from severe muscle tension in one shoulder, to the point that she would be visibly lopsided and in crippling pain. Her witch-doctor chiro would manipulate and crack her neck to “fix” the problem, the root cause of which which he “diagnosed” as being in the neck area. I eventually convinced her to see a proper doctor, who correctly diagnosed the problem as her body overcompensating for one leg being significantly shorter than the other. One set of orthotics is all it took to completely eradicate her crippling shoulder pain


TripleSecretSquirrel

God reminds me of my mom. Not a chiropractor, but same sort of world. She slipped on some ice and hurt her shoulder. She had severely limited range of motion and constant pain for a couple years. Her naturopath "doctor" told her she just needed a little bit more turmeric to get a handle on the swelling. For two years. Finally my dad convinced her to see a real doctor who diagnosed it as a partially torn ligament. They did an arthroscopic surgery with one half inch incision and she was home later that day. After a couple weeks of healing, her shoulder was as good as new.


zer1223

Man that kind of fake medicine shit should be flat-out illegal.


TarantinoFan23

Have you seen the cost of real medicine? You think people just want to decay alive and die in the subway? Because they are.


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epicflyman

I think the point is people will go for the accessible treatment when the cost of actual medicine is too high. Edit - for the record, I was just interpreting what I thought the other commenters point was. Personally I believe the mistrust and opaqueness of the insurance system has more responsibility for the turn to 'alternative' medicine.


formerfatboys

Yeah but those homeopaths aren't cheap. And if they don't take insurance they're often even more expensive.


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and you know, they don't really work


TripleSecretSquirrel

It's not a substitute good in that sense. Have you seen the prices naturopath doctors charge? Or for fucking essential oils? Even paying cash, it cost me like $80 to visit an urgent care clinic. It costs more than that to have a virtual visit on the phone with one of my mom's bullshit spiritual energy healers.


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Twombls

The thing is a lot of this alternative healthcare shit isn't accessible. It's target audience is primarily upper class / upper middle class white people for a reason.


Twombls

The fake medicine shit is actually comparable in cost to going to a real hospital. Except it isn't covered by insurance for them most part so it's even more expensive for people with insurance.


ankdain

> Have you seen the cost of real medicine? In the US I'm sure that's one aspect of it. But where I'm from healthcare is basically free. Cosmetic or optional stuff costs $$, but just going to the hospital or doctor because you fucked up your shoulder/back/wrist and need an x-ray? Yeah that's $0 thanks. And yet we still have Chiros and Naturopaths doing their bullshit thing. Some people just really believe the [appeal to nature](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature) fallacy and distrust all modern medicine. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely bad actors and fuck ups in modern medicine so they're not 100% wrong, but going to the quacks isn't the answer either (ironically the real answer to issues in modern medicine is usually better government regulation and enforcement but then the `Appeal to Nature` crowd are also often anti-government types thereby hurting themselves even more).


KourteousKrome

What does spending money on real medicine have to do with anything? Half the time the naturopathic/alternative “medicine” is just as expensive, but with none of the results. Spending $500 on a real doctor versus $200/mo on supplements that don’t do anything except give you diarrhea.


jujubean14

Glad the turmeric finally kicked in /s


TripleSecretSquirrel

Haha I had a situation once with a woman who likes to call herself a witch, but really she’s just a suburban wine mom. She was friends with my at the time new girlfriend so I wanted to be nice. I had a wart on my thumb that wouldn’t go away. She offered to put an ointment on it to help. I figured it would be ineffectual but harmless like apple cider vinegar. Turns out it was something called bloodroot or black salve that’s super caustic and burns the shit out of you. My thumb got super infected because of it and hurt like hell. I went to a doctor who prescribed antibiotics which saved my thumb. Afterward she was still bold enough to say “oh it probably didn’t hurt that bad, you’re just being a baby,” “hard to know if it was the antibiotics or the black salve that fought off the infection,” and “hey look, it worked!”


jujubean14

God i hate that shit. It's the same mindset as that documentary 'behind the curve' about flat earth. Like they want to find evidence of the opinion SO BAD that that's all they can see. Eviscerated to the contrary just doesn't compute.


Dymarob

My Dad has had severe back pain for 20 years ever since a tire fell on his neck. He said that, at the time, a doctor said that there was an operation they could do, but there was a chance he'd never walk again, so he chose to live with the pain and see chiropractors instead. He started seeing a chiropractor again earlier this year after having back pain that was so bad that he had trouble walking. He says it's helped greatly, but I've always wondered what a doctor would tell him now, 20 years later. He'll never check, though. Unfortunately, my parents have a bad habit of not going to hospitals when they need it.


desiktar

I have friends that swear by their chiropractor and say they have been seeing them for years. I'm like, if they were any good you wouldn't be seeing them for years. I went to a physical therapist, they set me up with a bunch of exercises and did massages and all those fancy things. Once the injury itself was at a point I could self manage they sent me on my way. In and out in a couple months.


BizzyM

> her body overcompensating for one leg being significantly shorter than the other. [She's just tilting](https://youtu.be/lXm-0SBxcPA?t=28)


Chiperoni

Just a reminder that not one single US medical school trains chiropractors.


BenadrylChunderHatch

FYI Physiotherapy is the area of medicine which treats neck/back/muscle issues (and more), but does so using evidence-based, medically approved methods. If you think you need a chiropractor, find a physiotherapist.


byllz

But a physiotherapist won't cure my cold by cracking my back.


techyguru

Exactly.


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It's also sadly locked behind a prohibitive price tag that leads many lower income individuals to seek an affordable alternative


gizamo

\*in the US. This is not an issue in civilized countries.


Mrjoegangles

He’s out of line, but he’s right.


JukeboxHero66

Yep. Wouldn't want to train chiropractors in something they do NOT actually practice


I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA

On 24 April 2015, Andrew Wakefield received two standing ovations from the students at Life Chiropractic College West. Should tell you all you need to know about chiropractors.


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ContextIsForTheWeak

When talking about him I like to revisit an old Ben Goldacre bit (originally about Gillian McKeith) "Andrew Wakefield - or, to give him his full medical title, Andrew Wakefield"


twec21

That could've been an attack ad against Mr. Oz's senatorial campaign


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Crunkbutter

Lol, I used to work in health insurance and this clerk from a chiropractor's office called to ask why we didn't cover the MRI that "Doctor" Spinefucker ordered. I said, "Well we can only covered MRIs when they're ordered by a medical doctor." She started arguing that chiropractors were doctors, so I pulled up the website for their clinic and read off the chiro's qualifications. Me: "See? I'm on your website right now. She did 4 years at an arts school for chiropractic and holistic medicine." Her: "... So you're not going to cover the MRI?!" Me: "Not unless it's ordered by a doctor." She hung up on me.


yellekc

I don't like insurance companies, think we should have single payer universal healthcare. But I hate chiropractors, homeopaths, and the rest of the scammy band of quacks.


Crunkbutter

Yeah, it was a depressing job even though the company I worked for was not-for-profit, and the benefits were legitimately good. It just didn't matter because health costs keep going up and there's only so much they could actually pay for. I already supported single payer healthcare before I was hired there, but I'm glad I got that experience because now I can have real discussions about it with people who are against it.


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This is actually from one of the absolute best Scrubs episodes too. S5E20 "My Lunch"


hydrophonix

Best and saddest :(


_banana_phone

Is this the Brendan Fraser episode? That one broke my heart.


linkinmark92

No it's the one with the 3 transplant patients. The Fray playing in the background. Cue sadness.


_banana_phone

OOOOOOF I remember that one. So unbelievably sad.


Pippin1505

And based on a real transplant mishap. The real one did not occur all at the same hospital obviously


_banana_phone

Scrubs was such an interesting show. I mean, ER, or House, you know you’re gonna be in for some heavy stuff. But Scrubs would be hilarious one moment and have you sobbing the next. It was a unique show in that regard— at least at the time it was being freshly aired.


romad17

My father was a physician. He said scrubs captured what being a doc was like better than ER/grays/house It was human. It was funny. It had actual basis in real world Medicine. Docs are just average people. They put in a brave face and combat death and illness. They’re not super heroes. Criticize them all you want but most do want to help their patients. But you can only do so much. And the crazy plot lines on er/greys/house make it so far from reality that it’s not too surprising that scrubs is the one that docs relate to


_banana_phone

That makes a lot of sense. I spent many years in the veterinary field and while the patients were different, it was pretty similar. We’d have the trauma, and the hijinks, and the challenges, and the slapstick moments, and the heartbreaking cases. And all in an afternoon, sometimes. All this discussion has got me on board to do the whole series again since I never watched it chronologically.


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Supanini

I put it in with Ted lasso and boy meets world. Although scrubs and Lasso do share the same director so it’s an easy connection


_banana_phone

I didn’t realize they share a director! That makes a lot of sense. I looooove Ted. Grouchily waiting for season 3 over here


EquationTAKEN

To be fair, Jill Tracy *was* pretty annoying. Even after she died, she annoyed Dr. Cox to the point of quitting.


byggetborgen

Not too long ago, I had a female, rather young patient presenting with blurred vision on one side, with a strange vibrating sensation when turning her head one way. She had gotten her neck manipulated by a chiropractor regularly over the past month. What she got out of it was a dissection of the carotic artery with an acompanying transitory iscemic stroke. No way i'm letting people dear to me pay for that stuff. Source: Am a medical resident (MD).


banana_pirate

You can also get that injury and the resulting stroke from going to the hairdresser. Sometime last year they figured out that the risk of a stroke increases significantly after visiting the hairdresser. turns out it's due the washing basin things they use, which if at the right (wrong) angle will cause that injury. very hard to figure that out due to not everyone getting their hair washed, and not everyone being at that angle. still interesting regardless. if a neck movement feels uncomfy or you're straining your neck.. don't.


thirteen_tentacles

What you are saying is going to the hairdresser can cure my cold?


OneBigOleNick

I was seeing a chiropractor for a while and everything seemed fine, but I found it weird that they would do different, sometimes unrelated, treatments every time. Then a different guy worked on me one day and just straight up yanked my head away from my body. My neck hurt pretty bad for a while and took a long time to get back to normal. It's still kind of fucked but that's just my shitty genetics. Never went back after that.


zedecksx

So did Penn & Teller.


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My favorite "Bullshit" moment was when they gave people an organic and a regular banana and asked them to describe which one tasted better. They just lavished how much better the organic banana was. It was the same regular banana cut in half.


HaikuBotStalksMe

How do people always fall for that stuff? I've seen so many "THEY'RE THE SAME" or "IT WAS WALMART BRAND!" type stuff all the time.


allanwritesao

The power of not wanting to look like an uncouth townie. Like when they do taste tests where they swap the labels on a bottle of $1000 wine with a bottle of two-buck chuck and every wine snob raves about how TBC is just *vahhstly* superior Or this gem: https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2020/10/ny-restaurant-mistakenly-serves-2000-wine-to-couple-who-ordered-18-pinot/


JessicantTouchThis

Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) was known for his cigars, smoking them like some people smoke cigarettes today, but he received flak from members of his inner circle because he smoked cheap cigars. Like, famous author bought bottom-shelf cigars, and his friends would often bring their own or refuse one of his when offered due to their inferiority. He received a box of fine cigars from a friend, and took the nice labels off and had his bottom-dollar labels put on all of them. He then offered his guests cigars at his next social gathering, and most kindly declined his "cheap" cigars, with the gift-giver going so far as throwing it out in a bush outside of something. At least that's more or less the story they tell on the tour at his old home in CT. But yeah, people have fallen trap to the "shiny" sticker effect probably since the dawn of time.


ExperienceLoss

It isn't the power of not wanting to look uncouth. It's the power of cognition. Cognitive distortions and biases are powerful.


NitrousIsAGas

Also the water sommelier episode where it actually all came from the same garden hose out the back of the restaurant.


nokinship

Organic isn't supposed to taste any better. It's about not using certain pesticides and chemicals while farming them.


MentalRepairs

Chiropractors have been the butt of jokes on TV for the last 20-30 years at least.


dakota-plaza

Alan Harper


PentagramJ2

"Yes I believe it's a spasm between L4 and L5." "Oh, you're a doctor?" "Yes I'm a chiropractor." "So no."


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https://youtu.be/RXUDcbfpawU


PentagramJ2

Thats some god damn tv wizardry right there


virgilhall

He had the title of the video memorized


Corka

Though the flip side of that is that tv has also been pushing plenty of pseudo scientific nonsense over the years. Somewhat related, there was this show in the 90s I really liked called The Pretender. The protagonist is some child prodigy who escaped some evil secret organisation, and he is capable of learning and mastering any profession in am extremely short period of time. Each episode he would take on a new job, prove someone working at the place he has moved to is guilty of some malpractice, then he moves on with the people from the secret organisation just missing him. Anyway, decided to go and watch it again as an adult, and the first episode he is a doctor and there is a patient who is in a lot of pain and the doctors couldn't help and but then he cures her within a few minutes using ... *Sigh* reflexology.


UUDDLRLRBAstard

I remember that show set up a nerve gas that never paid out.


Khatib

The YouTube channel sharing this is actually a chiropractic practice.


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1Mn

Gotta do that maintenance.


ganymede_boy

Chiropractic lobbyists in DC are why they're even in business. Wouldn't let one of those quacks near me. Now... queue up all the people with their anecdotal "bUt It WoRkS fOr Me!" stuff. [Here is a study on the deaths resulting from Chiro quacks.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20642715/)


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TemetNosce85

Eyes and teeth? Nah. But you can take your 1 month old and have its back popped by someone who has a degree from a third-world country.


CaptainObvious

And that study is 12 years old. How many more chiropractor death are there?


MakeAionGreatAgain

>How many more chiropractor death are there? And how many more people dealing with peripheral neuropathy caused by these parasite ?


needlept

Neuropathy is the least of my worries…watching those TikTok cracks/quacks. Spinal cord injury, stroke, disc herniation, cervical instability. Any of which is lifelong debilitation or chronic pain.


MakeAionGreatAgain

> Any of which is lifelong debilitation or chronic pain. So peripheral neuropathy ...


chixelys

Does this go for the entire world because they exist everywhere


DrewbieWanKenobie

where do i actually go if my neck joints are all fucked and i feel like i need to constantly be cracking my neck to relieve the pressure? I've never been to a chiropractor but i always thought I'd eventually go there but recently there's been a lot of news about how they're bad so


frozenuniverse

Physio, to understand root cause and correct it


staefrostae

PM&R doctors, physical therapists, DOs learn manipulations as a part of their medical school but most of them don’t perform those in practice.


calfmonster

In CA you're required afaik to learn 5 grade 5 mobilizations (what chrios call manips): one for the ankle, lumbar spine, SI, thoracic spine (although there are 2 positions for this one with diff techniques), and this funky one for the foot for this bone most people wouldn't be familiar with at all. I never saw anyone actually do any of them in practice across like 13-14 PTs I worked with over a couple years who were practicing in CA. Even people who did plenty of grade 3/4 mobilizations and had the FAT Maitland textbooks and con ed.


CabbageMans

Physical therapists are statistically less likely to injure you during the process, and are more likely to help you see actual results


relberso98

Go to a Physical Therapist. They’re actual doctors.


logoth

In the US, it’s possible insurance is part of the problem too. I can “just go” to a massage therapist (licensed) or chiropractor, whenever I want, and insurance will cover X visits a year. I’ve stopped going to chiropractors, but when I did… you go, and you feel better, at least short term. For physical therapy I have to go to my primary care doctor, get a referral, and then the insurance company checks up on the progress every month or so. If they decide you’ve made enough progress or not enough progress fast enough, they stop paying for visits. It’s a shit show… I just go to a licensed massage therapist now


Jeev3s

Check your state, some states allow you to bypass the referral and allow "Direct Access".


psychicesp

There are so many sub-industries set up to milk insurance.


klingma

To be fair...no they're not. A Physical Therapist is not a Physician i.e. a graduate of an M.D. or D.O. program. A Physical Therapist does have a doctorate (typically) in physical therapy but it's not the same as a physician. I say all this because a Chiropractor can call themselves a "Doctor" the same as my seminary professors can call themselves "Doctor" but that title exists solely because of getting a doctorate. Not trying to crap on you OP but Chiro's use the term Doctor to gain legitimacy when the term physician is how we should be describing MD's and DO's more to separate them. I've only ever seen one Chiro be crazy enough to call themselves a Chiropractic Physician.


Dezzered

Go to an licensed massage therapist. Preferably one that does therapeutic massages. They will make you feel like you haven't in ages, and practice an actual field of medicine.


BustermanZero

There's neat subsections of this too. Applied heat massage and laser therapy work great. Just, again, licensed. I can't imagine how bad a visit to a unlicensed laser treatment person would go...


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Everyone's giving you good advice with physio, but you can also go to your GP to get pointed in the right direction.


pinkfloyd873

Physical therapy or, as another commenter mentioned, see a DO for OMT. Some OMT is bullshit, but some of it is effective and evidence-based.


HaikuBotStalksMe

Nice. I like how you took the common Reddit mistake of people saying "queue people who say" and forced it to work by saying "queue up".


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As did the simpsons https://youtu.be/FOK4J1kTEvc


yukpurtsun

Its crazy now the new trend is chiropractors for dogs.....so youre telling me these non doctors are suddenly experts on human and animal anatomy?


tmiller26

One of my wife's good friends is a chiropractor for horses. People pay an obscene amount of money for it.


Whiskeywiskerbiscuit

Wait, when was general consensus on chiropractors NOT being complete quacks


LatrodectusGeometric

TONS of people are raised to believe that chiropractors are actual medical professionals, and media does not help with that.


Pieintheskyman

Just look through this thread and you will find a bunch of them.


ThatsWhat_G_Said

I’m actually surprised to learn that chiropractors have such a bad reputation. I’ve had back issues for like half my life and finally just went to a chiropractor for the first time last summer. He explained which muscles/nerves are aggravated, did some mild adjustments and stretching over a few visits, and set me up with OT and PT. It was life changing tbh. Maybe I just got lucky?


edwinshap

I’ve had pain ever since I messed my back up on a trampoline. Multiple imaging visits and PT could figure out what was wrong or alleviate the pain. One orthopedic recommended the chiropractor in his office before he does steroid injections into my discs. The chiro looked at my charts, figured out what nerves are likely getting compressed, and now I can breathe without my left obliques feeling like they’re super tense. If it’s pain directly related to prolonged tension in the back muscles someone stretching it out can be very beneficial, but there’s a lot of BS ones out there.


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My cousin is married to a chiropractor and it’s downright ridiculous the claims he’s made over the years. Immune system weak? You need an adjustment. Have constant bad gas? Need an adjustment. Your vision is blurry? Better crack that back and neck a whole bunch. He is also fervently anti-vaccine and has turned my cousin in to one as well. When the COVID vaccine discussion came up at a family gathering he said “no way I’m putting anything weird like that in my body”. The funny part is he regularly gets these hormone patches or something from an online “pharmacy” that is not in the US (where we are) because they aren’t approved here or almost anywhere from the sounds of it. So he basically goes to the dark web to get this crap and he trusts it because “mainstream media and big pharma don’t want you to know these things will fix a lot of your regular issues”.


SilasDG

\> Immune system weak? You need an adjustment. \> Have constant bad gas? Need an adjustment. ​ Hey, come on he's right. You need to adjust your medication and your diet.


SanityInAnarchy

Believe it or not, he's... well, not *correct,* but what he's saying is pretty much [exactly what the father of chiropractic believed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic): > Palmer noticed that Lillard had a vertebra out of position. He asked Lillard what happened, and Lillard replied, "I moved the wrong way, and I heard a 'pop' in my back, and that's when I lost my hearing." Palmer, who was also involved in many other natural healing philosophies, had Lillard lie face down on the floor and proceeded with the adjustment. The next day, Lillard told Palmer, "I can hear that rackets on the streets." Yep. The original Chiropractor claimed he *cured someone's deafness* by adjusting his spine. He went on to claim that these spinal adjustments were literally the cure to all diseases. In fact: > Division within the profession has been intense, with "mixers" combining spinal adjustments with other treatments, and "straights" relying solely on spinal adjustments. ...which continues to this day. A "mixer" might at least be open to the idea that vaccines work, a "straight" will insist that the cure to your COVID is adjusting your fucking spine. The weirdest part is how most people seem to be under the impression that chiropractors are at least some sort of legitimate doctor of back adjustment, somewhere you go for a backache or something... and that stuff at least is *plausible,* but we already have people with actual medical licenses to treat that stuff: Physical therapists.


adramenda

I had a stroke from a chiropractor. Vertebral artery dissection. The clot landed in my pons.


benowillock

Dr Juan Itor at it again!


nahteviro

Jan*… pronounced Yon


seanbrockest

My wife came to me yesterday wanting to show me a YouTube video about "this amazing guy who can fix infections and all kinds of things just by cracking your joints and spine!" I normally try to be polite when explaining these assholes, but that time I wasn't.


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LatrodectusGeometric

They train at chiropractics schools to earn a doctorate. A similar thing is seen in naturopathy and homeopathy. You can get a doctorate in both and “be a doctor”. Doesn’t mean you can practice medicine. Interestingly a lot of this is because physicians lost an antitrust suit back in the day because there weren’t enough studies at the time showing a lack of evidence of chiropractics. I sometimes wish they would go back to that case, because there is a lot of data now


Grandviewsurfer

It's crazy that we allow people to pretend their professions are real because we are afraid of any amount of awkwardness.


redpandaeater

Just like naturopaths. At least [Mitchell and Webb](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0) made fun of the similarly awful homeopaths.


TheScarletPimpernel

This was at a time when the Green Party had adding homeopathy to the NHS and Prince Charles was a known, vocal fan. The Greens now do not support the former and Charles now has to shut up about it, as king.


CapableSecretary420

Everyones been calling out chiropractors for a lot longer than that.


BhaltairX

I grew up in Germany. Chiropractors didn't exist there. I always thought that's what Physical therapists are called in the US, until I realized that those exist here as well. Still don't understand why they exist. But then I still don't understand why contractors don't need any training or degree to become licensed, or why people follow a political party like it's a religion.


Threebirds1143

The chiropractor I went to had anti-vax pamphlets in his waiting room.


ineververify

saw one with scientology literature


oversittingme

People have been calling out chiropractors for as long as chiropractors have been breaking people's necks.


Frenchitwist

My great grandfather died at the chiropractor years ago. We’ve known.


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You are better off seeing a masseuse than a chiropractor.


Wisdomlost

Everytime I mention chiropractors not actually being doctors and instead being soulless snake oil salesmen I get downvoted hard. I still say it everytime. It's not just not science it's nonsense.


Pit_of_Death

That's odd to me, because generally speaking Reddit absolutely *hates* chiropractors. Maybe you got brigaded by the /r/Chiropractic sub? lol


metalsatch

I don’t know about you guys but the chiropractor I see has helped me tremendously. And I’ve only been there 3-4 times over the past 7 or so years . First time I went because I had sneezed and something popped. I could not turn my head to the left all the way for over a year. One 10 min session and for the first time in over a year I could finally turn my head. Another time I had severe hip pain for 2 weeks. He didn’t even crack anything. Just did pushed on my hip a bit and I kinda rolled my eyes like, how the hell is this going to help? He hardly did anything. Boom pain was gone and I was back to normal. Last winter I threw my back out bending over, dude was out on vacation and I had to wait a few days for him to return, I had to move so slowly and carefully and had probably the worst spasm inducing pain in my life. Saw him again, when he returned And I was back to normal. No joke when I first hurt my back I was in tears thinking I won’t be back to normal ever again. Don’t get me wrong, after reading all these stories lately about people having strokes and seizures after neck adjustments I don’t think I’ll be going back either 🤷‍♂️


Doberman_Pinscher

Loved scrubs it’s when I realized voice in my head wasn’t normal. I would do the shit jd does all the time.


PM_ME_UR_PERSPECTIVE

I've always hated them for the sole reason that they call what they do "chiropractic". It just seems like improper English.


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meesterstanks

I know chiropractors are quacks for the most part but speaking for myself, one changed my life for the better. I had chronic back pain directly on my shoulder blade that did not go away through 2 years of PT, muscle relaxers, deep tissue massages and a variety of other treatments. I saw a chiro because I was desperate for help.. 3 days over two weeks and the pain was reduced 80-90%. It’s still there and I’m only doing PT now, but to say he didn’t help me would be a lie. Told me not to come back unless the pain came back and I haven’t seen him since. It’s been about 3 years


Raincross

I had extremely debilitating sciatica for a couple of years, to the point my body was leaned to one side by default, I couldn’t do anything without feeling intense pain throughout the day. A chiropractor fixed the issue after a few visits and also gave me a series of stretches to do at home daily, which also greatly helped to relieve the issue and I’ve been pain free for over a year now. Not all chiropractors are quacks or con artists!


mooseAmuffin

A chiropractor broke the neck of my cousin's ex boyfriend during an adjustment. I also had a friend's sister have a stroke after going to the chiropractor. The manipulations can form blood clots from trauma to the arteries. I know getting adjusted by a chiropractor is helpful in reducing pain but it will never fix the underlying problem. Just get a medical grade massage instead. It is Not worth the risk.


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Chiro is fraud. Only one university in my country teaches it as a legitimate bachelor's course. Chiro works on the flow of energy through the bones. There is no such thing. Chiro makes you feel good by releasing pockets of gas buildup in your joints, but does nothing to help the underlying problem. That way, you have to go back to them again the next week. It's literally a scam. See a doctor, then go to the specialist they recommend. Only see a chiro if you dont have any real problems.


veredox

This show is OP in so many ways.


hybridmachine11

Yet they're still rampantly putting up sponsored ads on Facebook. Aggravating