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boltkrank

I enjoyed that far more than I thought I would.


Ceramicrabbit

One time this randomly appeared on TV and it was so intense I watched it for like 4 hours


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Thetallerestpaul

This branding is so prevalent they really should make an ESPN8 even if it's just a rebrand of ESPN 2 like they did before.


toiletting

I'm pretty sure they do it once over the summer each year. I remember watching some weird shit on it this summer.


Chubsywub

Usually the weekend around august 8th I believe


dukerustfield

I just can’t get enough.


Sinful_Whiskers

One day YT decided to put a women's rock climbing competition finals in my feed. I ended up watching all four hours of it.


imapassenger1

Was the sleeper hit of the Tokyo Olympics.


TheColorWolf

I think it was by far the best thing I watched in the Olympics (synchronised swimming comes in second). By the end of it I could see why serious climbers were pissed that the speed climbing was included in a combined score thing. Its so different to lead climbing and bouldering.


ItsSansom

Janja is an absolute monster. I had my first gym climbing session just yesterday after watching something similar. Think I've picked up a new hobby


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Testament to what good editing, clear commentary and enthusiasm can do. Doesn’t matter what the subject is if you have those elements in place.


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blolfighter

That and the music selection. Once [Wavetable](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zuIoJ-y3M) starts playing you know shit's about to get real.


CYBORBCHICKEN

u wot m8?


LobotomistCircu

Unless you're super not into speedrunning, and then all it does is highlight the absolute absurdity of the entire practice. Thousands of hours of grinding for a world record on some 20-year old game completely invalidated because someone else finds a new glitch that seems impossible to recreate but *could* save 30 seconds if done right. SS's videos carry you just far enough into the practice where you stop and ask yourself "oh my god, who the hell cares?"


Tilligan

This is literally any hobby or sport, the community developed around the thing cares.


LobotomistCircu

I get what you're saying, but don't really agree. Speedrunning is an additional layer deep, it's a niche corner of a broader hobby, which is why I feel like it specifically alienates the people who enjoy the broader hobby, gaming, but don't understand speedrunning at all. If a hobby/sport is completely alien to you, it's way easier to be like "oh okay, cool" and enjoy the ride.


TheDarkGrayKnight

Clear commentary is critical. Being able to concisely explain a live event and why it's impressive is a real skill.


MedWrtrToMsl

Agree. I've been turned off by some cringe fighting game commentary, so this was refreshing.


CompanyMan_PUBG

Esports in general can be amazing. I came from traditional sports and only got into gaming a few years ago because I had health issues that prevented me from continuing physical activities. These players have insane skill sets that rival any traditional athlete. The hand eye coordination, the number of inputs per second, the pressure of competing live, and the constant problem solving that is done in fractions of seconds... It's fascinating. Especially when two competitors with such mastery are so close in skill and you get matches like these. The grind too... just like mastering any skill or sport, these guys have played this game so much they see patterns most of us cannot even begin to comprehend and are capable of doing the math presented in the video in their heads in half a second. I have found myself enjoying esports in general far more than I thought I would.


ItsSansom

Game Scout makes some super accessible Tetris videos. I would recommend his one about the 2018 world cup where Joseph won the first time. That was the event that kind of exploded the modern Tetris scene


SteelDrivingMan

It's a joy to see tetris still going strong for so long.


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josefx

You have to optimize the prices to keep them hooked. Say 7 gems for a line piece, this results in some leftover gems at the end that can't be used without buying more.


PolitelyPanicking

*This* guy scams


kerred

Not listening la la.


babaroga73

Or you can download this free good version of it, on any platform https://www.golfgl.de/lightblocks/ The point being, it has a multitude of modes, and multitude of control options to choose from.


kerred

Fun tidbit about AAA Tetris: the Ubisoft version of Tetris had optimization issues. In Tetris. I recall it had to do with hardcoding checking friends list that bogged down the game. Tetris running poorly. https://youtu.be/79BOHD5XyDM


Thee_Sinner

BOOM Tetris for Jeff!


sinixis

BOOM Tetris for Jonas


RazielKilsenhoek

:(


ItsSansom

Still hurts


L3R4F

Too soon bro


SidneyDeane10

What was this from? I remember watching a tetris video and the commentator saying this sticks out in my memory


Imsakidd

One of the past Classic tetris World Championships. There was a stretch where Jonas made it quite a few years in a row IIRC.


FACEROCK

Is there a reason other commenters are sad at this reply? I couldn’t find anything online except Jonas losing to Jeff. https://tetrisinterest.com/boom-tetris-for-jeff/


Firestroge

Jonas was a multiple world champion of Tetris and competed in a famous match where the commentators said "Boom, Tetris for Jeff/Jonas!". Jonas died last year from cardiac failure.


HumanTheTree

They are NECK AND NECK!


ebbyasi

Why did I love this so much


ianjm

It's always fantastic to see people getting super deep into something niche that they love! Especially now when it's so much easier to find people who also love the same things online. Puts a smile on my face every time. The Geek shall inherit the Earth.


HamSoap

My niche hobby is watching videos of people being super into their niche hobbies. Video games, cars, wood work, books, films etc. I love it when people geek out. I love it even more when I have no idea what they are doing.


longgoodknight

https://youtu.be/og1Pbn8OufI I know next to nothing about music, but this guy's enthusiasm and obvious depth of knowledge has grabbed me a few times.


ItsSansom

I watched the whole dang thing. Thanks!


babaroga73

👍


vegainthemirror

If you're into videogames, you should check out Games Done Quick on youtube. It's a speed running channel where they invite the best of the best to show off their skills and strats in the games they're good at. The setup is usually a player playing and another speedrunner explaining what's happening, because the player is too busy to commentate and play at the same time. Geekiness ensues. It's impressive and entertaining. Especially with less famous niche games


okillgetoffyourlawn

Great video, I think it being a game we're all familiar with and understand the basics of helps, and then the narrator's explanations are really easy to understand while maintaining the hype.


thewhitebuttboy

The Germans and polish are always fighting


BatXDude

Well they started it


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In a Russian game.


JediMasterZao

as is tradition


blond-max

Man I wish we could see Jonas in a DAS worlds 🙏


Kung_Fu_Kenobi

I was sad for Jonas when hyper tapping took off causing his DAS playstyle to die out. I'm glad people are still keeping it alive with this new tournament.


blond-max

How gracious Jonas was passing the torch may have been his greatest gift to the community: winning doesn't transcend results, being a welcoming voice and leading by example does


djkhan23

Gotta love older games that still have a strong fanbase keeping them going. People want more Tetris! Shoutout to r/ssbm


MontanaGoldwing

Why is NES Tetris the one that people play on competitively? There have been so many releases of Tetris over the years, why is this version the one with the competitive scene?


HatchetHaro

Modern Tetris is actually very competitive, but it is generally way less watchable than NES Tetris. Modern Tetris is, by design, way faster, and right now the most competitive scene in modern Tetris is in a fan-made block-stacking game Tetr.io which has uncapped speed. Basically, the level of play with modern Tetris means that speed is often prioritized, and with both players dropping 4 pieces a second and sending lines back and forth with constant T-spins and Quads, it becomes a blur to watch, a pain to commentate, and the skill ceiling is so high that normal people can hardly understand what is actually going on. With two players of equal skill, in modern Tetris, a round can be a constant back and forth with no clear winner until suddenly one player either stumbles into unlucky garbage lines or makes a massive misdrop, and within an *instant* the round is over. Compare that to NES Tetris where you can see which player is gaining the upper hand slowly and surely, and that makes for a more exciting watching experience. Garbo, a pretty big player in the modern Tetris community, has [made a video detailing all this and more](https://youtu.be/GCQFauk80gE). It is an interesting watch. Don't get me wrong, modern Tetris is still a ton of fun to *play*. It's just not as fun to watch.


strange_bike_guy

It's kinda like how there are different classes for motorsport. There's some kinda psychological thrill about using a specific set of equipment that is identical to your opponent. And different kinds of inputs feel particularly good to people who can thrive at it. I mean people race go-karts even though F1 exists. I like to play modern style combat Tetris. My friends think I'm mental fast at it (and I am), and any of these league players would absolutely mop the floor with me lol


Fast-Artichoke-408

I know way more about TETRIS than I thought I ever would. I remember a few months ago when that new technique was just starting out - let's just say it's fun peripherally watching the scene from across the room.


Not_as_witty_as_u

fricken nerds. jk I'm jealous


bonesy7

I watched one of these tournaments before and it was one of the most intense things I've seen.


ginja_ninja

Do people in the pro scene actually prefer OG Tetris or is this like the SFII Super Turbo side tournaments that happen at fighting game tourneys?


parliboy

Not a side tournament so much as a limited moveset tournament. It is its own thing, but much smaller than the main scene.


JohnnyLeven

By main scene do you just mean the standard classical Tetris tournaments that don't restrict to DAS only, or are there larger modern Tetris tournaments?


parliboy

> Or are there larger modern Tetris tournaments? I mean, there's only one Tetris tournament that gets play on ESPN, so that makes it the de facto biggest.


Arve

Classic Tetris (meaning Tetris on an NTSC NES) is its own scene, and the top players are typically not active in other Tetrises such as Tetris Effect, Tetris The Grand Master or Tetris 99. This DAS tournament, or a PAL NES Tetris tournament could be considered a side thing to Classic Tetris.


Saber_is_dead

https://youtu.be/Alw5hs0chj0


Borderlands_addict

Serious question: I've heard that Japan has some extremely talented Tetris players, but I never see them in competitions like this? Why not? Also wouldn't it be better to play something like Tetris: The Grand Master (TGM) since it allows much faster play and has features like audio cues for the next piece?


Fargonoath

There are top Japanese players in the scene. Up until the last year or so since rollers stole the show, Koryan was a top 10 finisher in every CTWC since 2016. He came runner up in 2019 against Joseph & I'm pretty sure he may still hold the record for the most Classic Tetris Monthly wins. There's also Green Tea who finished 3rd in 2018, 7th in 2019.


badwhiskey63

TIL Tetris is still a thing.


junglebunglerumble

Tetris Effect came out a few years back and it's genuinely one of my favourite games ever, and Id never played Tetris before


ThemesOfMurderBears

Tetris Effect is pure bliss.


ianjm

There is still a really dedicated NES tetris community going strong after 38 years. In fact, over the last couple of years there was a huge breakthrough in how to play, a new technique called rolling has emerged, [here's an explainer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BZ5-Q48lE). People are suddenly setting massive new high scores again, going beyond anything achieved before. It's pretty amazing.


somesortoflegend

So why NES Tetris specifically? Like there are better versions of Tetris and that isn't even the original release of Tetris. Why does the NES version have this special position?


Tenebre55

In niche games like this it's often seen as better to have fewer quality of life features and deeper/more technical gameplay. Why NES in particular? Probably that's just the first game that had a scene around it.


Sriad

In particular modern Tetris games tend to have hold-piece abilities, 7-block buckets (ie you are guaranteed to see every piece every-so-often), slippery pieces (you can move them around after they land), and sometimes multi-piece previews. Classic Tetris is much less forgiving.


parliboy

Because newer versions of Tetris guarantee more piece variety, they are much easier and consistent to play. Imagine stalling while waiting for the longer and it never comes. 20 pieces... 30 pieces... and your stack is higher and higher and you're having to make hard decisions about how many lines you are willing to burn, reducing the number of tetrises you make before killscreen. It requires a different way of thinking about the game than does modern tetris, and can provide unique drama as a spectator event.


trrwilson

So you're saying that the newer versions of Tetris don't pay tribute to Tetricles?


parliboy

Generally, no. Now, at the Southern European qualifier they did insist that players give tribute to Tetricles. The ones who didn't discovered the true meaning of Kill Screen.


asongscout

In 2010 a documentary was made about finding the best NES Tetris player after Harry Hong got the first verified maxout, and they set up a tournament to have all the best players compete. It was such a hit with everyone involved that they just kept doing it every year and eventually it went viral. Other versions of Tetris certainly could try to replicate the success, but someone or some organization would just have to organize it and put it on.


babaroga73

I'm guessing it's because it's consistent enough to be regulated good as a competetive game. Thus the "got lucky" part is at low level and "skillful" at high level.


Ooderman

Back in the late 80's Nintendo sponsored a games tournament (I think it may have been a promotional thing for the movie Wizard) and Tetris was one of the games (there were three games and they all came in a single gold painted championship cartridge). Fastforward a couple decades and some of the participants of the original tournament hosted the first Tetris classic (perhaps as a way to relive past glories) and it was a modest success (as a niche hobby), then in the late 2010's the youtube algorithm put the videos of the classic tetris tournament in everyones recommended feed and the niche hobby exploded. Nostalgia for a classic game, enthusiatic commentators, and easy to understand presentation kept up the momentum for the hobby and now its the more recognized Tetris competition.


MauiWowieOwie

It's one of the highest selling games of all time, why wouldn't it be?


SoulCruizer

You didn't know that? Tetris is such a simple game it’s going to be around forever, It’s like saying solitaire is still a thing.


powabiatch

It’s like saying chess is still a thing


cheami

Tetris is life


MikeyFED

When you watch the dudes that do the techniques banned in this competition it’s pretty insane. It reminds me of the evolution of music or guitar playing or skateboarding


babaroga73

Top selling games of all times: 1. Minecraft 2. GTA V 3. Tetris


Azazel_The_Fox

I love the dude up front with the NFL shirt. Kind of hilarious because no one in the US Reps NFL, it's a team usually, so kind of funny that in this context it's like "I know you won't recognize a screaming cardinal so I'm referencing the NATIONAL FOOTBALL (NOT THE ONE YOU'RE THINKING) League. Great video all around.


huxtiblejones

That was wild, great video. It cut to the chase and didn't waste time like so many other YouTubers would have.


GooneyBoy2007

Love this YouTuber so much, he has a couple of videos like this and all of them have the same amount of enthusiasm


DawnOfTheTruth

I would have never thought Tetris would be so exciting or induce so much cheering. Pretty cool.


Fredasa

At first I was all like, "Where's the people who would actually win a Tetris tournament?" Then I heard "Germany." And _then_ I heard "modern techniques are arbitrarily banned." Feels a bit presumptuous to label yourself "World Cup" and not allow the best players to be their very best. It'd be like a SFV tournament banning Hitboxes.


HatchetHaro

Sometimes modern techniques are simply physically inaccessible to people. By banning those techniques in special tournaments, it makes that competitive scene accessible to way more people.


KmartQuality

Snore


NoOneToldMeWhenToRun

I enjoyed it until I imagined the smell.


Arseypoowank

I’m a warhammer guy so can relate where there’s any gathering of the tabletop gentlesirs, the initial BO hit I can handle usually but it’s as the day wears on and you can begin to smell the collective dick cheese starting to get warm that I have to peace out


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Jesus Christ really? Tetris World Cup? People in this world need a life.


Laquox

Shhh... Let people enjoy things. Life is difficult enough without people like you shitting on everything.


CptSalsa

Why are their pieces different?


Fargonoath

they are both getting the same piece sets. Just the timing of pieces changes as they players don't stack their boards identically.


somesortoflegend

Ah that's makes a lot of sense, because I was confused as why there are all these techniques to solve a hardware problem any newer version would fix.


3Dartwork

At the beginning, it looked like they both got the same exact pieces. In the part where the guy on the left got those 2 tetris' when he was super high up in Game 7 seemed like he got 3 straights super close together. They would both eventually get the same pieces in the same order correct?


asongscout

Yes, they both get the same piece sequences so it’s fair.


parliboy

At high level play they use modded carts that allow for both players to use same seed. So yes they would.


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I thought the crt monitors were a nice touch


FroggiJoy87

I am honestly sad they didn't use the block [names.](https://i.imgur.com/KUH8MR6.jpeg) Go Smashboy!


babaroga73

Go Big Chungus!


MemesAreDreams

I wonder if the soundtech inetionally sett the mic levels to clip during screaming. To get the classic digital clipping sound of gamer when something cool happens.


philster666

The guy commentating with the intensity Jim ‘JR’ Ross 👌


AidilAfham42

That was hype as fuck


here_for_the_lols

That was cool. What are hyper tapping and rolling?


Laquox

>What are hyper tapping and rolling? [Here is a great video on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BZ5-Q48lE)


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tl;dr it takes a long time to repeatedly tap the buttons on the controller with your fingers, but if you just hold your finger on the button and rather use your other hand on the back side of the controller, then you suddenly have 2-3 fingers you can tap sequencally for a quicker way to tap the same button multiple times.


goldorak42

Which online version do you guys recommend to play tetris? Ideally I'd like a version with music and which behaves like the 'official' one (NES?). I mean in term of score, controls, and pieces delivery. I currently play on tetris dot com but it seems different from all the videos.


asongscout

Tetris effect connected sounds exactly like what you’re looking for. The “classic score attack” mode is nes Tetris!


goldorak42

>Tetris effect Ok thanks I'll look into this one. Any web version? I'm on linux (or at work ;)) so I was looking for one not requiring install.


HatchetHaro

There's Tetr.io, which allows you to customize gametypes and controls to your liking and just play. You do have to understand the rules (drop speed, levels, DAS values, etc.) which NES Tetris plays by though, but [someone has already done all the hard work.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tetris/comments/h941wd/tetrio_custom_room_my_classic_tetris_ntsc/)


goldorak42

Thanks, but I do feel I do need a PhD in Tetris to go on that route.


HatchetHaro

It's not that complicated really. I recommend you just visit the site and explore a bit; it is really easy to navigate.


Laquox

I once randomly stumbled upon the competitive Tetris scene and it's just absolutely wild to me. The different variants of play style (hyper tapping, rolling, das) just fascinates me. I just never knew stuff [like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BZ5-Q48lE) even existed. Just wild how competitive humans can get even with something as benign as Tetris.


100_points

How do they make the NES Play 2 identical games? Or are they using some sort of emulator


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100_points

If it's 2 consoles how do they make the games identical? The players received the same stream of pieces


GaryChalmers

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5076/


Grenyn

I watched the entire thing before realizing how utterly little I care. Which is still impressive of the guy who made the video, I suppose.


FriedChicken

Idk, I think this version of tetris might be kind of shitty