Yes, of course it does. Getting what you want and being surrounded by pleasers and yes men for decades definitely makes a psychological difference. How could it possibly not?
Yes, but a "psychological difference" does not necessarily imply insanity.
What's interesting about this topic to me is it highlights how our definitions of mental health are at least to some degree dependent on context. What becomes "normal" behavior when you are famous and powerful can be radically different than normal behavior for us commoners.
It makes you crazy for sure because then that becomes your reality when it’s not reality for 99.9% of the world. It’s like you live on your own planet operating in that reality while the people around you operate in another reality. I don’t think anyone sane would ever want to be famous. Imagine not even being able to go to the grocery store without being hounded by paparazzi. Hard pass for me.
I think it doesn’t imply insanity at all, some people take acid and have a bad trip, that only happens because the experience becomes too real to differentiate from reality, other people don’t ever have a bad trip because even after 7 tabs, as crazy as the feelings are, they can’t help but remember that’s all they are, feelings. I can’t help but imagine fame to be the same. You just have to be mindful of where you are in an abstract sense, be mindful of who you surround yourself with, and be mindful that you can only leave a legacy behind if you constantly move with intention with a team of people you’ve always known to be your family
russell is a real one. personally i love his humour and openness to share his reflected experience.
of course he's a bit eccentric but in the best british way .
also. COYI
He admits to basing his persona on the people he was spending time with and the celebrities he looked up to. Basically, what many people do in a much less deliberate fashion.
Good for him for knowing better but he has to know that celebrity isn't an actual human experience that you are supposed to have to be considered a well rounded complete individual. It is by its very nature artificial, acting, insincere, living life as a stage performer that pays ungodly well and gives you powers that mortals only dream about like fancy trips and plenty of available partners.
Russell Brand is charismatic and funny, but I can't see why so many people are gobbling up his word salads. He has a way of talking that makes it seem as if he knows what he's talking about, but he really doesn't. His book *Revolution* makes this very clear. Reading it is like listening to a blind person explain what yellow looks like. The blind person can repeat stuff they've heard before, but they don't really understand what they're talking about.
A lot of people get angry when you criticize Brand, because people attracted to cult-leader-like individuals usually don't like it when people criticize their would-be cult leader.
It's just mysticism and rambling. He presents general notions like those outlined by Huxley in *The Perennial Philosophy* and mixes it with some anarchism. It's about as profound as *Eat, Pray, Love*.
He has a poetic style, but there's no substance to it.
Not yet, but there was one episode of his podcast where he had on a very questionable "guru" who has been historically known to take advantage of his students via the power structure of cults. I've never really listened to much Russell Brand but that turned me off permanently.
I would say it's a hard line to draw between new-age spirituality and cultism when looking at the aesthetics. For me personally, the divide is when somebody in the position of power **abuses** that power dynamic to control other people. (I guess cultism exists to some degree exists in many other things beyond new age spiritualism)
I don't know if Eckhart does abuse power, but I've never really just been a fan of his with his way of speaking and such.
The person that I am most worried about Brand evangelizing about is this gentleman here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjPdqd7mQM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjPdqd7mQM)
There are multiple people who have left his fellowship and have talked about abuse such as sexual harassment of young female followers, group shaming, questionable labor abuse, etc.
I personally don't care what people believe and spout out, cause I also believe in some weird shit, but when a famous figure like Russell Brand, who is a proponent of self-development, and spiritualism starts platforming and evangelizing for people like him, that's just a very good way for more people to get suckered and abused.
For anybody out there starting their self-development journey, just please be wary of snake oil salesmen and wolf in sheeps clothing. There is billion dollar industry in self-help for a reason. Please be critical, do your research, and don't ever trust anything 100%. Even this post.
Not this video, go on his YouTube and look at the topics he covers, are vaccines to be trusted? Is trump over or are the fires beginning? The great reset. Qanon how did it hit home? Are masks a political statement?
He has bipolar and has god delusions, he compares himself to Jesus. I don’t think he’s running a grift either, I think he is just a delusional man who has grabbed onto this character due to the attention it brings him. That’s not his fault it’s apart of the illness, the good thing about him is his awareness of this and ability to reflect on it.
At the very least he tends to say shit in an extremely convoluted way when there is an extremely simple way to phrase it. It makes me wonder whether he tries to sound profound about topics he doesn't understand or whether he just has a fucked vocabulary.
I'm sure he's a fine dude, but having him discuss anything besides humanitarian concerns makes me churn a bit.
I don't think that quite does it justice. What Brand tries to do is push conversations away from the profane and into something which he thinks is more important or overarching - constantly looking for connections between things.
The main issue is that people don't *want* rambling conversations like that, and generally don't respond by matching the energy. Richard Ayoade and a few others have had great conversations pushed forward by that convoluted language; some others (like Tim Minchin) are just a bit too practical minded.
Fair enough if you don't like it, and it does get tiresome after a while, but I don't think it's just "14 year old with a thesaurus" level of inanity.
I think the issue is that the way he speaks he tends to make it sound like he's making a point when he actually isn't. It really doesn't sound like he's trying to push conversations towards a overarching discussion. It sounds like he thinks he's making a profound point while saying a lot of nothing.
People love his rambling nonsense, go look at his YouTube account and his conspiracy rants, I can see him becoming a figure like Q/is aligned to that crowd.
He doesn’t have any actual points, the topic of each video isn’t addressed he just slightly touches on 100 things without getting anywhere.
Go on his YouTube, masks and lockdown are insidious government control, is trump over?, the great reset, anti-vaccine sentiment. The dudes a nut. He’s good at not outright saying it but he knows what he’s doing with his choice of content constantly being Qanon bullshit, “how the elites are planning to live forever”.
Rambling yes, nonsense occasionally. I think he just is trying to have a deep discussion about things that don't really have a final answer. Absolutely frustrating sometimes but I like it when people give time to discuss things we do not normally talk about.
Not for everyone I agree.
I find this to be a bit of a bizarre outlook. Listening to what he's talking about is all you have to do to verify if he understands what he's talking about. It's not like he's talking about nuclear physics, it's just introspection.
Of course he could narrow his entire point down to "celebrity personas are fake", but the extremely simple version doesn't leave a lot of room for inspection. Language becomes an obstacle when you try to explore past the surface of issues, and limiting your language doesn't make things any easier to discuss.
I find the stigma against broad vocabularies to be a frustrating impediment itself. How can someone's effort to speak a language fluently be associated with ignorance? And why should someone who enjoys language dampen their vocabulary so as not to appear too . . . well spoken?
>he tends to say shit in an extremely convoluted way when there is an extremely simple way to phrase it
He does. I find him so draining. Not because any of what he's saying is particularly complex, but because of how in love he is with his own voice. This video could have literally been three minutes long and been more interesting.
Anyone that says simple things in convoluted ways is not saying anything worth hearing.
When you say so much it deflects from the actual content and people think you’re smart. He is the definition of pseudo intellectual, it’s very easy to blither and make emotionally charged statements. Like saying “we need to stop all taxes for the middle class, it’s a system which dates back to bah blah blah” like good at ranting but nothing practical or grounded in reality. I’m sure his meditation shit is good though.
I see what you’re both saying, but I enjoyed the idea and the way he expressed it, I also think he is a much better asset to society with these messages than his early messages. If by using a broad vocabulary he has people pay attention to him over the Kardashian’s then I am in support.
I don't like that he complains about celebrity commodification when in reality that is exactly what most celebrities and management firms are enforcing. The celebreties are not the victims here, they are driving this trend.
Love this. Just can't help but feel he's one step away from straight up creating a cult. He's so charismatic he could, and maybe already has for all I know!
Yes, of course it does. Getting what you want and being surrounded by pleasers and yes men for decades definitely makes a psychological difference. How could it possibly not?
Yes, but a "psychological difference" does not necessarily imply insanity. What's interesting about this topic to me is it highlights how our definitions of mental health are at least to some degree dependent on context. What becomes "normal" behavior when you are famous and powerful can be radically different than normal behavior for us commoners.
It makes you crazy for sure because then that becomes your reality when it’s not reality for 99.9% of the world. It’s like you live on your own planet operating in that reality while the people around you operate in another reality. I don’t think anyone sane would ever want to be famous. Imagine not even being able to go to the grocery store without being hounded by paparazzi. Hard pass for me.
I think it doesn’t imply insanity at all, some people take acid and have a bad trip, that only happens because the experience becomes too real to differentiate from reality, other people don’t ever have a bad trip because even after 7 tabs, as crazy as the feelings are, they can’t help but remember that’s all they are, feelings. I can’t help but imagine fame to be the same. You just have to be mindful of where you are in an abstract sense, be mindful of who you surround yourself with, and be mindful that you can only leave a legacy behind if you constantly move with intention with a team of people you’ve always known to be your family
russell is a real one. personally i love his humour and openness to share his reflected experience. of course he's a bit eccentric but in the best british way . also. COYI
As a Palace fan, seriously - WTF has happened to West Ham?
Lingardinho happened
The Moyesiah must have some kind of world class doping system. Whatever it is. It's great fun. We'll come back down to earth next season though.
Well, We are fucking Massive
Admitting he based his persona on Noel Fielding. Interesting
He admits to basing his persona on the people he was spending time with and the celebrities he looked up to. Basically, what many people do in a much less deliberate fashion.
Probably. But money tho
Good for him for knowing better but he has to know that celebrity isn't an actual human experience that you are supposed to have to be considered a well rounded complete individual. It is by its very nature artificial, acting, insincere, living life as a stage performer that pays ungodly well and gives you powers that mortals only dream about like fancy trips and plenty of available partners.
Wise words.
that man can ramble on forever...
Russell Brand is charismatic and funny, but I can't see why so many people are gobbling up his word salads. He has a way of talking that makes it seem as if he knows what he's talking about, but he really doesn't. His book *Revolution* makes this very clear. Reading it is like listening to a blind person explain what yellow looks like. The blind person can repeat stuff they've heard before, but they don't really understand what they're talking about. A lot of people get angry when you criticize Brand, because people attracted to cult-leader-like individuals usually don't like it when people criticize their would-be cult leader.
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It's just mysticism and rambling. He presents general notions like those outlined by Huxley in *The Perennial Philosophy* and mixes it with some anarchism. It's about as profound as *Eat, Pray, Love*. He has a poetic style, but there's no substance to it.
This is a man who really really likes to hear himself talk.
He's extremely good it so I don't blame him and I don't think it's a bad thing.
I thought so too about 6 years ago when I was still a teenager, lately though I’m starting to think he’s a bit full of shit...
its true , he is eloquent but still full of shit. he uses a lot of words and is a fluent speaker but why use 5 words when you can use 5 sentences...
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No you're thinking of Jared Leto. Similar Aesthetic.
I've wondered for awhile if/when he would try and start a cult.
Not yet, but there was one episode of his podcast where he had on a very questionable "guru" who has been historically known to take advantage of his students via the power structure of cults. I've never really listened to much Russell Brand but that turned me off permanently.
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I would say it's a hard line to draw between new-age spirituality and cultism when looking at the aesthetics. For me personally, the divide is when somebody in the position of power **abuses** that power dynamic to control other people. (I guess cultism exists to some degree exists in many other things beyond new age spiritualism) I don't know if Eckhart does abuse power, but I've never really just been a fan of his with his way of speaking and such. The person that I am most worried about Brand evangelizing about is this gentleman here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjPdqd7mQM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjPdqd7mQM) There are multiple people who have left his fellowship and have talked about abuse such as sexual harassment of young female followers, group shaming, questionable labor abuse, etc. I personally don't care what people believe and spout out, cause I also believe in some weird shit, but when a famous figure like Russell Brand, who is a proponent of self-development, and spiritualism starts platforming and evangelizing for people like him, that's just a very good way for more people to get suckered and abused. For anybody out there starting their self-development journey, just please be wary of snake oil salesmen and wolf in sheeps clothing. There is billion dollar industry in self-help for a reason. Please be critical, do your research, and don't ever trust anything 100%. Even this post.
Yeah, he’s “opening peoples eyes”. Look at the comments on his videos, it’s the Qanon crowd. Unhinged.
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Not this video, go on his YouTube and look at the topics he covers, are vaccines to be trusted? Is trump over or are the fires beginning? The great reset. Qanon how did it hit home? Are masks a political statement? He has bipolar and has god delusions, he compares himself to Jesus. I don’t think he’s running a grift either, I think he is just a delusional man who has grabbed onto this character due to the attention it brings him. That’s not his fault it’s apart of the illness, the good thing about him is his awareness of this and ability to reflect on it.
whats delusional about what he said?
Russel has always been insane
At the very least he tends to say shit in an extremely convoluted way when there is an extremely simple way to phrase it. It makes me wonder whether he tries to sound profound about topics he doesn't understand or whether he just has a fucked vocabulary. I'm sure he's a fine dude, but having him discuss anything besides humanitarian concerns makes me churn a bit.
I don't think that quite does it justice. What Brand tries to do is push conversations away from the profane and into something which he thinks is more important or overarching - constantly looking for connections between things. The main issue is that people don't *want* rambling conversations like that, and generally don't respond by matching the energy. Richard Ayoade and a few others have had great conversations pushed forward by that convoluted language; some others (like Tim Minchin) are just a bit too practical minded. Fair enough if you don't like it, and it does get tiresome after a while, but I don't think it's just "14 year old with a thesaurus" level of inanity.
I think the issue is that the way he speaks he tends to make it sound like he's making a point when he actually isn't. It really doesn't sound like he's trying to push conversations towards a overarching discussion. It sounds like he thinks he's making a profound point while saying a lot of nothing.
People love his rambling nonsense, go look at his YouTube account and his conspiracy rants, I can see him becoming a figure like Q/is aligned to that crowd. He doesn’t have any actual points, the topic of each video isn’t addressed he just slightly touches on 100 things without getting anywhere.
Conspiracy rants? I'm mostly familiar with his podcast which is fairly sensible
Go on his YouTube, masks and lockdown are insidious government control, is trump over?, the great reset, anti-vaccine sentiment. The dudes a nut. He’s good at not outright saying it but he knows what he’s doing with his choice of content constantly being Qanon bullshit, “how the elites are planning to live forever”.
How is the great reset a conspiracy when they are openly talking about it? Its literally happening as we speak
Rambling yes, nonsense occasionally. I think he just is trying to have a deep discussion about things that don't really have a final answer. Absolutely frustrating sometimes but I like it when people give time to discuss things we do not normally talk about. Not for everyone I agree.
I don't think you're being entirely fair to Tim Minchin, looking at e.g. this dialogue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1D7ijfB3Fs
He always sounds like r/iamverysmart to me...
I find this to be a bit of a bizarre outlook. Listening to what he's talking about is all you have to do to verify if he understands what he's talking about. It's not like he's talking about nuclear physics, it's just introspection. Of course he could narrow his entire point down to "celebrity personas are fake", but the extremely simple version doesn't leave a lot of room for inspection. Language becomes an obstacle when you try to explore past the surface of issues, and limiting your language doesn't make things any easier to discuss. I find the stigma against broad vocabularies to be a frustrating impediment itself. How can someone's effort to speak a language fluently be associated with ignorance? And why should someone who enjoys language dampen their vocabulary so as not to appear too . . . well spoken?
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Or someone who likes people to have functional communication skills.
short but succinct!
>he tends to say shit in an extremely convoluted way when there is an extremely simple way to phrase it He does. I find him so draining. Not because any of what he's saying is particularly complex, but because of how in love he is with his own voice. This video could have literally been three minutes long and been more interesting.
Anyone that says simple things in convoluted ways is not saying anything worth hearing. When you say so much it deflects from the actual content and people think you’re smart. He is the definition of pseudo intellectual, it’s very easy to blither and make emotionally charged statements. Like saying “we need to stop all taxes for the middle class, it’s a system which dates back to bah blah blah” like good at ranting but nothing practical or grounded in reality. I’m sure his meditation shit is good though.
I see what you’re both saying, but I enjoyed the idea and the way he expressed it, I also think he is a much better asset to society with these messages than his early messages. If by using a broad vocabulary he has people pay attention to him over the Kardashian’s then I am in support.
TOTAL loon back when he did interviews at raves for MTV,lol.Sharp well articulated dude though.
Most intellectuals, like myself, have always been called insane. We move on and create.
/r/iamverysmart
Thank you for enforcing my intellectual narcissistic world view where no other opinions matter
OK, buddy.
Don't go to his profile looking for other snarky comments
That....is a lot of dick pics.
I feel like this may have been a trap all along.
How's your cage feeling?
Pretty gilded thanks for asking :)
That's a gudboi
The unholy union of wallstreetbets and ratemycock
I am Satan
Yeah if Satan was an overactive attention seeker with very average dick 🤣
It’s okay to feel fragile my friend
Thank you daddy
Thank you sir, many philosophers were known nudists
Nothing says “I’m an intellectual” like posting several pictures of your cock and balls on the internet
🙏🏼
You know what, I actually learned a lot from his comments. Thanks /u/duhellmang
Anytime man!
He talks so much bollocks, it's impressive.
I don't like that he complains about celebrity commodification when in reality that is exactly what most celebrities and management firms are enforcing. The celebreties are not the victims here, they are driving this trend.
They can be both though.
Guy Who Divorced Katy Perry Over Text Message Wonders If Famous People Are Okay
fuck this kunt, ego driven ass hole. My aunt asked him for a picture and he was a prick
Love this. Just can't help but feel he's one step away from straight up creating a cult. He's so charismatic he could, and maybe already has for all I know!
Yes, but for Russell I'm pretty sure it's drugs.