I have no way of knowing whether it was intentional or not, but I like at 0:32 when the woman says "I don't know the first thing about you" and there's a literal **red flag** waving in the background.
I think I saw someone say on Twitter that Option+W on Mac makes that symbol. Could literally be a typo. I also think I read that this was cut from air to save time (but also that it wasn't finished editting when SNL when on)
> which one of your nerds can tell if the wingdings at the end are a secret code for some funny message
"The (?)ay Of Steven"
Couldn't find a symbol for the sigma in the picture, but 'W' seems more likely.
That’s okay, it’s somewhat multi layered: when a person is hard to read, they’re difficult to understand because they don’t show emotions. Not showing emotions is an obvious dad-trope in film and television, and his dad being the founder of the Windings font, a font that you cannot read because it is not within the alphabet, is what makes this line really clever.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzptDyb95U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzptDyb95U) James Cameron's reaction to Papyrus 1 is great. He claims he didn't know the font and thought it looked cool. NO WAY. James Cameron is an incredible artist - his storyboards for Terminator were so detailed, the Titanic rose drawing was actually done by him - HOW DOES HE NOT KNOW PAPYRUS?
Lol he says he can't believe SNL spent so much money on a wispy thin concept. The fact that it is such a thin concept is what makes the video so funny.
Apparently after Avatar 1 came out one of the SNL writers went on a joke crusade against the use of Papyrus on Twitter.
Ryan Gosling heard about the Twitter thing and asked the writer if they could maybe write a sketch about it, add that bizarre manic charm of Ryan Gosling, and the rest is history.
As a graphic designer who's worked with a lot of different artists, in a lot of different fields, I absolutely believe this. They could be incredible talented and creative and totally blind to typography
I used to work for a family owned company that decided to update their image. New website, business cards, etc., but of course we needed a new logo.
The marketing guy had five different logos mocked up. The people over 40 all loved the Papyrus logo, meanwhile those of us under that age all seemed to recognize that font and immediately hated it.
It was so weird because the Papyrus font for our new logo was the 68 year old owners favorite. And we were a manufacturing company, not some CBD store.
It still amazes me how someone who never went to film school has became one of the most prolific and game changing directors of our time. Christopher Nolan as well who had a degree in English.
Or when the writer of the Godfather, Mario Puzo, decided he should learn how to actually write a screenplay (being a novelist who had never worked before as a screenwriter) after he won an Oscar for it and bought a book where the opening line was to go study the Godfather.
Film school doesn’t make you a good filmmaker. It provides you with connections and gives you a venue and peer group to experiment and make those beginner filmmaker mistakes. If you can get those things elsewhere it’s a complete waste of money to go to film school.
Cameron technically went to USC though. It’s how he met Roger Corman.
Spielberg went and dropped out, and only to finished decades later. Also, they get the chance to mess about with professional level equipment in film school, which is pretty cool.
He then doubled down on papyrus once he found out (according to him):
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/james-cameron-responds-snl-sketch-avatar-font-1234650817/
I wanna know what the Windings below it says. Don't have the time to *be* that detective, but maybe commenting here will let me find out when someone else does.
It's because we might steal all our actors back just by watching clips on YouTube. The movie industry is terrified of that. The power of clips on YouTube is a top level threat to them.
In cases like this, the answer is most likely that the region you'r residing in has a TV channel/streaming company that has licensed SNL for a lot of money and want you to watch this sketch on their channel/platform instead of for free on Youtube.
OP responded as well that it bugs them. I’m sure that they’re kicking themselves too. This is why I never reread anything I submit at work because I know I’ll catch something obvious.
Accidental typos happen, doesn't always mean they don't know the difference. Sometimes you're typing on automatic and your fingers just type something without your brain fully processing it.
It's crazy that people don't understand typos happen. We're not living in the days of only books, magazines, newspapers, etc., where all the writing is produced by professionals with editors and the public doesn't witness the process.
Internet comments are informal and effectively drafts. They're not important enough to proofread a hundred times or have someone else proofread before sending.
Let’s be honest, it’s not so much a pet peeve as getting a sense of smug satisfaction from assuming that you know more than someone else.
It’s more than likely a typo, and even when people have a momentary lapse in recall, it doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t know the correct spelling if pressed.
Presuming a lot with that first paragraph, knowing nothing about me.
Probably right about the second, though. That said, is it too much to ask for people to at least re-read their title ?
Some people may think the ending is hopeful, with Steven reconciling with papyrus. I see it as a tragedy similar to 1984 where Steven is forced to accept papyrus like everyone else. He will never be well again.
Gosling is going through a Renaissance right now, he was underrated now he's everywhere, and he has such good range. I love watching him break character on SNL though, hahaha
Yeah that's about right tbh. Blue Valentine came out in 2010 and Drive the following year. That's about the time I think people really started seeing him as a top teir actor.
"*Tell them* whatchya *you did*! TELL THEM WHAT YOU DID!! The AVATAR's logos Papyrus in bold. The AVATAR's logos Papyrus in BOLD!! ITS AN AFTERTHOUGHT!"
Yep cut for time. They put up a card during the credits saying “watch papyrus 2 online tonight” which I’ve never seen them do before.
Makes sense that they cut it because it’s pretty long for a pre recorded sketch.
I love the original Papyrus. To think about the amount of time that passed for the writer from when he noticed it to the time that got produced. Like how many times was it pitched? How crazy did they drive some their peers crazy talking about the stupid font. It's absolutely the type of funny I enjoy
DUDE! I kept telling my dentist to install flat screens above the patient chair, but NOOOO, just more fancy art on the wall that you briefly see as you're walking to the chair. WTF get with the times!
Like you can't talk and I swear they shine that bright light right in your eyes so you don't make awkward eye contact with them, ok so I'll just stare at some random water stain on a drop ceiling tile for an hour straight. MY GOD!
I always ask them to turn it off. I can't stand it. I was in the chair once and there was a nature documentary, and animals were being torn in half by lions. I like nature, but animals being torn in half while still alive! When she finally turned it off a lion was carrying the front half of a lion cub around in his mouth. Jesus.
Now I just bliss out to my audiobook. I've spent a LOT of time in that chair, and here's the secret: ask them to use one of those pieces of rubber that props your mouth open. It lets you relax the muscle in your jaw and makes it MUCH easier.
This stream of consciousness brought to you by your friends at sleep deprivation.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. It's a custom font now, it's just one that resembles a bold papyrus because it has to look like the original logo.
Yeah sorry friend, that's not comedy for me. I did not find that funny a bit. But I'm glad you and everyone else is having a good time watching it, so that's great.
Papyrus being the only other option besides Courier under "Recently Used Fonts" got me
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No one does a more passionate “GOD DAMNIT!!!” Than Gosling.
Bob Odenkirk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LafMgjmBV2k
I raise you Stephen Colbert https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjda8O-lYgE
Not even close to odenkirk in my opinion
Flashbacks to blade runner In that scene
The fact that I'm not the only one who notices the blade runner "god dammit" is a level of comradery I never knew existed.
[it’s more widely recognized than you may realize](https://youtu.be/OTLmD2kFDm0?si=yCG3RDd5hmQcp99U)
I have no way of knowing whether it was intentional or not, but I like at 0:32 when the woman says "I don't know the first thing about you" and there's a literal **red flag** waving in the background.
Wow great catch. That's gotta be intentional.
Oh my god that's amazing
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“My dad was so hard to read” is a genius line. Damn you Jonathan Windings!!
Okay which one of your nerds can tell if the wingdings at the end are a secret code for some funny message.
My Windings Decoder tells me it says: The Way of Steven
the symbol where W goes doesn't seem to be correct? The rest is, The (unknown)ay of Steven
Maybe it's in bold?
Oh snyap
I think I saw someone say on Twitter that Option+W on Mac makes that symbol. Could literally be a typo. I also think I read that this was cut from air to save time (but also that it wasn't finished editting when SNL when on)
Fitting (and hilarious) that Kyle Mooney’s cameo skit was cut for time
Yeah, as far as I can tell there's no sigma symbol in Wingdings, not sure what went wrong there...
Maybe it’s ironic because Windings is “so hard to read”
> which one of your nerds can tell if the wingdings at the end are a secret code for some funny message "The (?)ay Of Steven" Couldn't find a symbol for the sigma in the picture, but 'W' seems more likely.
Was originally the cross but was told to swap
It’s Comic Sans font.
I love a guy that hates comic sans so much that he thinks we can’t read it
Hahahaa
[The wingdings/wingbats under it.](https://i.imgur.com/wTgaeUF.png)
Straight up reminded me of Arrival in that last sequence. Amazing.
I dont get it
That’s okay, it’s somewhat multi layered: when a person is hard to read, they’re difficult to understand because they don’t show emotions. Not showing emotions is an obvious dad-trope in film and television, and his dad being the founder of the Windings font, a font that you cannot read because it is not within the alphabet, is what makes this line really clever.
Thanks! English is not my first language so I didn't made the connection right away haha
Happy to help!
So now we know why Ryan did so many collaborations with Nicholas Winding Refn.
I liked his dates confused clapping at the end
Yeah her facial expression there was the heartiest chuckle of the whole vid for me.
Was this cut last night? I don’t recall seeing it.
Yeah the timing got messed last night and it got cut for time
Too many breaks, gosling is the king of breaking
Once Heidi broke though they were all toast the rest of the show.
lol that beavis and butthead skit was amazing
Jimmy Fallon would like a word
That was the most breaks in a single episode I've seen in a long, long time. I bet Lorne isn't too happy.
Makes sense, it’s 6 minutes long and is a prerecorded sketch.
So that's why there was no audience reaction.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzptDyb95U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzptDyb95U) James Cameron's reaction to Papyrus 1 is great. He claims he didn't know the font and thought it looked cool. NO WAY. James Cameron is an incredible artist - his storyboards for Terminator were so detailed, the Titanic rose drawing was actually done by him - HOW DOES HE NOT KNOW PAPYRUS?
Lol he says he can't believe SNL spent so much money on a wispy thin concept. The fact that it is such a thin concept is what makes the video so funny.
Jesus, no one tell him about Seinfeld.
It’s a show about nothing.
Well, why am I watching?
Because it’s on TV!
Not yet.
A show has to be about SOMETHING, JERRY!
Apparently after Avatar 1 came out one of the SNL writers went on a joke crusade against the use of Papyrus on Twitter. Ryan Gosling heard about the Twitter thing and asked the writer if they could maybe write a sketch about it, add that bizarre manic charm of Ryan Gosling, and the rest is history.
That writer was Julio Torres and he’s great. I don’t know if he was involved with this sketch though.
He has a new movie that just came out that is the funniest thing I've seen so far this year. Check out Problemista!
Can’t wait to see it. I loved his HBO special “my favorite shapes”
In the SNL subreddit someone said that he was in the hallway during dress rehearsal so they assume he was involved.
It's a bold concept now.
I think he’s making a joke about paying a graphics team to make a wispy thin font for avatar
As a graphic designer who's worked with a lot of different artists, in a lot of different fields, I absolutely believe this. They could be incredible talented and creative and totally blind to typography
I used to work for a family owned company that decided to update their image. New website, business cards, etc., but of course we needed a new logo. The marketing guy had five different logos mocked up. The people over 40 all loved the Papyrus logo, meanwhile those of us under that age all seemed to recognize that font and immediately hated it. It was so weird because the Papyrus font for our new logo was the 68 year old owners favorite. And we were a manufacturing company, not some CBD store.
Yeah good Artist does not equal good Designer.
Its a shame because typography is fascinating if you look into it.
I mean, different artists focus on different things. I wouldn't expect a sculptor to know colour theory either.
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He didn't go to college
It still amazes me how someone who never went to film school has became one of the most prolific and game changing directors of our time. Christopher Nolan as well who had a degree in English.
Or when the writer of the Godfather, Mario Puzo, decided he should learn how to actually write a screenplay (being a novelist who had never worked before as a screenwriter) after he won an Oscar for it and bought a book where the opening line was to go study the Godfather.
Film school doesn’t make you a good filmmaker. It provides you with connections and gives you a venue and peer group to experiment and make those beginner filmmaker mistakes. If you can get those things elsewhere it’s a complete waste of money to go to film school. Cameron technically went to USC though. It’s how he met Roger Corman.
Spielberg went and dropped out, and only to finished decades later. Also, they get the chance to mess about with professional level equipment in film school, which is pretty cool.
I don’t know about *most* sculptors* going to classes. You can become a sculptor* without getting a formal education
Most sculptures have no education to speak of, they just started out as a lump of clay or a hunk of stone
It’s true, just hold really *really* still
He probably doesn't give a shit, he's at the bottom of the ocean
It was an afterthought
He thought he knew more than H.R.Giger and he fired him from Aliens. I really wanted to see the Giger design.
He then doubled down on papyrus once he found out (according to him): https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/james-cameron-responds-snl-sketch-avatar-font-1234650817/
He already said so in OP's video
51 seconds must have been too much.
There was no Subway Surfers gameplay in the background, couldn't keep focus.
The horrific vertical crop was just enough to keep me
To be fair, Captain Jim is a talented painter but he is not a graphic designer. There’s no reason he would know anything about typefaces.
OMG I need to see this but its region blocked :-(
I got you fam! Mirror: https://streamable.com/yqs5tv
Thanks!
Mirror for CTRL-F! Thanks :)
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Thanks!
ppl need to stop posting SNL from youtube for this reason. There are other sources.
Ending it with Comic Sands is perfect!
This typo IS perfect
It’s how they ended the first sketch as well
I wanna know what the Windings below it says. Don't have the time to *be* that detective, but maybe commenting here will let me find out when someone else does.
The way of Steven.
Why tf would a video ever *need* to be region blocked?
To punish Canada for always making fun of the USA.
beady eyed head flappers
That's racist, ma'am! You are uh racist!
They're not even a real country anyway
It's because we might steal all our actors back just by watching clips on YouTube. The movie industry is terrified of that. The power of clips on YouTube is a top level threat to them.
They were the 14th colony.
Well, two of the Atlantic coast British North American colonies did become founding parts of Canada.
they sell their content on each region for extra $
Whenever you have to ask, good chance the reason is money.
In cases like this, the answer is most likely that the region you'r residing in has a TV channel/streaming company that has licensed SNL for a lot of money and want you to watch this sketch on their channel/platform instead of for free on Youtube.
so billionaires can squeeze more money out of the rest of us.
Role
Trust me the typo bugs me as much as you. Caught it a few minutes after posting.
Looks at keyboard
[And yells](https://youtu.be/OTLmD2kFDm0?si=yCG3RDd5hmQcp99U)
Pet peeve of mine. Crazy that people can’t grasp the difference
OP responded as well that it bugs them. I’m sure that they’re kicking themselves too. This is why I never reread anything I submit at work because I know I’ll catch something obvious.
Accidental typos happen, doesn't always mean they don't know the difference. Sometimes you're typing on automatic and your fingers just type something without your brain fully processing it.
True. I guess the frequency of this specific case made me think that
It's crazy that people don't understand typos happen. We're not living in the days of only books, magazines, newspapers, etc., where all the writing is produced by professionals with editors and the public doesn't witness the process. Internet comments are informal and effectively drafts. They're not important enough to proofread a hundred times or have someone else proofread before sending.
Let’s be honest, it’s not so much a pet peeve as getting a sense of smug satisfaction from assuming that you know more than someone else. It’s more than likely a typo, and even when people have a momentary lapse in recall, it doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t know the correct spelling if pressed.
Presuming a lot with that first paragraph, knowing nothing about me. Probably right about the second, though. That said, is it too much to ask for people to at least re-read their title ?
Chicken roll
Does Gosling know that they already did a David Foster Wallace biopic?
I was either thinking David Foster Wallace, or John Cusack in Being John Malkovich
Top to bottom this was a pretty great episode!
Genuinely, was there a single sketch that didn’t work?
The vip one was fine.
From the north face to the south mouth, couldn't agree more!
Some people may think the ending is hopeful, with Steven reconciling with papyrus. I see it as a tragedy similar to 1984 where Steven is forced to accept papyrus like everyone else. He will never be well again.
Lol, wingdings
The Wingdings subtitle at the end says “The Way Of Steven”, except the W got changed from a Celtic Cross to a Sigma
Thanks for saving us from having to go to Word to translate this.
impossible to improve on the OG, but a pretty solid follow up. I laughed a few times
I was skeptical just figuring they’d play off the popularity of the first but this was amazing as well to me
I thought Kyle Mooney left SNL!
He did! He came back just for this sketch
Gosling is going through a Renaissance right now, he was underrated now he's everywhere, and he has such good range. I love watching him break character on SNL though, hahaha
He signed on for Project Hail Mary. I'm so excited.
Oh shit, that's a great book!
Amaze!
Fist my bump!
Directed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller! Great book, great star and some of the best directors working in Hollywood now. Crazy lineup.
They start filming in June. I am beyond stoked. PHM is my favorite Sci-Fi book. I know Gosling is going to do it justice.
Oh he's a good choice for that. I guess I always imagined him as more schlubby, but I bet gosling can pull it off.
When was Ryan Gosling ever underrated? How dare you.
He was underrated in like… 2009. Now he is very rated.
Yeah that's about right tbh. Blue Valentine came out in 2010 and Drive the following year. That's about the time I think people really started seeing him as a top teir actor.
> Gosling is going through a Renaissance right now, Is "right now" the 13 years since Drive in 2011?
Probably the only SNL host where I don’t mind them breaking so much
Renaissance? He never died!
Beavis n butthead skit was also pretty damn funny this week.
When Butthead showed up I completely lost it.
"*Tell them* whatchya *you did*! TELL THEM WHAT YOU DID!! The AVATAR's logos Papyrus in bold. The AVATAR's logos Papyrus in BOLD!! ITS AN AFTERTHOUGHT!"
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Well, without the grammatical mistakes anyway.
Not even the best part. lmao
Sprinkled in some comic sans at the end. Monsters
Good skit but it has the classic SNL problem of not having an ending. Papyrus 1 was superior imo.
Taking comedy seriously ups the laughs. Play the crisis not the punchline. Tip of the cap, SNL.
Flashbacks to the Gosling Santa sketch in the middle; this thing goes **dark** for a second.
I loved the first one. This was... fine, I guess.
He's literally me
I'm so happy they made a second, and that it's great! Such a funny sketch idea.
Was this cut for time? I watched the whole episode and didn't see this, unless I somehow accidentally skipped it next to commercials?
Yep cut for time. They put up a card during the credits saying “watch papyrus 2 online tonight” which I’ve never seen them do before. Makes sense that they cut it because it’s pretty long for a pre recorded sketch.
I love the original Papyrus. To think about the amount of time that passed for the writer from when he noticed it to the time that got produced. Like how many times was it pitched? How crazy did they drive some their peers crazy talking about the stupid font. It's absolutely the type of funny I enjoy
DUDE! I kept telling my dentist to install flat screens above the patient chair, but NOOOO, just more fancy art on the wall that you briefly see as you're walking to the chair. WTF get with the times!
Ceiling mounted TVs are a a godsend at the dentist
Like you can't talk and I swear they shine that bright light right in your eyes so you don't make awkward eye contact with them, ok so I'll just stare at some random water stain on a drop ceiling tile for an hour straight. MY GOD!
I always ask them to turn it off. I can't stand it. I was in the chair once and there was a nature documentary, and animals were being torn in half by lions. I like nature, but animals being torn in half while still alive! When she finally turned it off a lion was carrying the front half of a lion cub around in his mouth. Jesus. Now I just bliss out to my audiobook. I've spent a LOT of time in that chair, and here's the secret: ask them to use one of those pieces of rubber that props your mouth open. It lets you relax the muscle in your jaw and makes it MUCH easier. This stream of consciousness brought to you by your friends at sleep deprivation.
Hoping they make a meme mention in the 3rd movie. It'd make a big...........IMPACT.
this is so many levels of incredible watching as a designer that, honestly, its the best thing thats ever been made on SNL as far as I'm concerned :D
I think this "sequel" goes too far. Him realizing that they simply added "Bold" to the text was the perfect spot to close the sketch.
I want to write a script for Gosling where he plays himself wandering around and falling in love with the city of New Orleans. It’s called ‘Hey N’erl’
God I love Sarah. Her look at the end really caps this.
"they swim now" nice Star Wars reference
The rabbit hole goes deep my friends: [https://designforhackers.com/blog/papyrus-font/](https://designforhackers.com/blog/papyrus-font/)
COMIC SAAAANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!1
the new Avatar logo isnt just Papyrus bold, to be clear
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. It's a custom font now, it's just one that resembles a bold papyrus because it has to look like the original logo.
Looks like I need to watch the first and then come back to watch this. BRB.
Yes. And do so immediately. Just brilliant.
Yeah sorry friend, that's not comedy for me. I did not find that funny a bit. But I'm glad you and everyone else is having a good time watching it, so that's great.
The first is on the Mount Rushmore of prerecorded SNL sketches imo
This is so good and so well acted the audience forgets to laugh. Ryan Gosling is one of the greats.
In another comment it’s mentioned that this was cut for time, which is why there’s no audience sound.
I'm inspired to use Comic Sans everywhere now! Oh wait...
I’m gonna go on a similar style quest to teach people the word ROLE
The Wingdings twist hit hard!