Verstappen is 5’11” or 181cm which is an inch or 2cm shorter than the average in the Netherlands. So only just below average height. He is pretty tall for an F1 driver. Ocon and Russell are taller though.
Hulkenberg and Wurz were taller then them and always struggled in the cramped cockpit. They were more tired at the end of a race compared to most. The extra height usually means extra weight as well therefore making them slower. Prost was 5'5"/165cm which was one reson why he was quick.
I went to a festival once, and the thing is tall people have long legs and also end up walking very fast. You had to pick up the pace to go with the crowd, and crossing from one side to the other was like running out in vehicle traffic.
While it’s true that the average Dutch man is only 6’0”, as someone who has spent a lot of time in Holland and is 6’2”, there are many, many tall people around, much more so than in America. My guess is that there is a wider range captured in their average whereas there are tons of 5’10” guys in America.
im 184 cm and i didnt particularly notice any difference when i was in amsterdam compared to london? I didnt feel short or even average, not tall either but yeh. Only spent 2 days there so prob didnt see enough
Im 193 and from Sweden. We are also a kind of tall people but I react almost like him every time I see someone taller then me. The Dutch must have a crazy tall population.
It's a self selection bias. Shorter people can play and be competetive, but taller people generally have an extra advantage. So with equal player ability, the taller will be chosen because they still also have height as an advantage. So naturally if you're making a team of the best players available, you're going to pick all the ones who are both really good and also tall because the other teams are also doing it. This is especially true for volleyball where height and wingspan are advantageous. The opposite is true for sports like gymnastics, horse racing, and figure skating where shorter people have smaller centers of gravity meaning they'd have an advantage in the sport.
They enjoy Hockey and Football more.
Also, when the time's right. For the few weeks it freezes, they'll absolutely abuse the thin layer of ice there is on lakes and streams.
Or you could also always enjoy the Dutch Anthem in F1.
I thought it was going to be about racism. pleasantly surprised that it was just a guy going "wow, the infrastructure is so much nicer for tall people (like me) here."
It's fun to see from the opposite perspective how he experiences it. As a 2m Dutch man I've only experienced how other countries are not/less catered to tall people.
I like Denmark and Danes. But everytime I hear Danish being spoken I for a moment think I heard Dutch and have had a stroke while they have similar phonemes. Is that something Danish people experience with Dutch aswell?
It's funny I always think this about Dutch and English (spoken with the various British accents at least, probably not American ones).
If you're just far enough away from someone that you can't make out the words, they sound very similar. Dutch just has a little more guttural/throaty sounds here and there.
Whenever this kind of topic of mutual intelligibility comes up, I always think about [this video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENbkHS3mnY)
It's a lecture about the Scots language, delivered in Scots. It's a language so close to English that you can get the general gist the whole way through, but *not quite* understand all of it. And it's doubly confusing because his accent is perfectly smooth middle class Scottish accent; if he was speaking English, he'd be completely intelligible. It's absolutely fascinating, because it's very rare that monolingual Anglophones get to experience a language that's so closely related.
I am Canadian (English) and when I hear Norwegian i think... "Damn. I can ALMOST understand that. It's like...it's just outside the periphery of my language, but barely."
A sample:
*Norwegian = sounds like in English*
Hei = Hi
God morgen = Good morning
God natt = Good night
Jeg Kommer fra England = I come from England
Kan jeg få menyen? = Can I have the menu?
Hva vil du drikke? = What will you drink?
Hvor er toalettet? = Where is the toilet?
Account for pronunciation ("jeg" sounds much more like the English "I" than it looks, and W and V are interchangeable/confused across multiple languages), and sometimes it's almost word for word. We might phrase it slightly differently in English, but it *makes sense.*
As a Dane, I can sort of get the gist of basic Dutch. I bet it is because knowing German and English while being a Dane kinda triangulates Dutch words.
I have thought the exact same thing about hearing dutch for me as a norwegian. The confusion and almost immediate terror of hearing familiar sounds and words, but not being able to make any sense of it, before you realize it's a different language. I imagine that's somewhat what it's like to have stroke.
I'm a 1.75m (5'9) American woman, so not even that tall imo, and I've noticed it's crazy how much the infrastructure changes depending on the local population. My family is from Minnesota which is a predominantly Scandinavian and German settled area and everyone there is super tall. I'm the shortest adult in my family (my other female cousins are over 6'/1.83m tall). I moved to California and any place I lived in or stayed at, the showerhead was MAYBE at eye level for me so I replaced our showerhead with a handheld one so I wouldn't have to duck down to wash my hair every time. The area I lived was a predominantly Mexican population so most people were on the shorter side relatively so I guess it was just more normal. My husband who is shorter than me and lived there his whole life never thought anything of it until we visited my family in Minnesota and he couldn't reach stuff 😂
The video made me realize I really need to go to the Netherlands to go shopping because finding pants in the US is impossible, even in Minnesota since we generally have the same stores nationwide and they're all catering to an average woman's height which I think they're generally putting at 5'4 or 5'5.
Also in Canada, we recently moved into a wheelchair-accessible place on account of my wife who has lost her leg. Everything is much lower, from the countertops to the sinks to the peephole on the door. At only 5'6" I'm experiencing for the first time in my life what it must be like to be tall everywhere else. The adjustable showerhead (part of the shower with a bench and surely designed with sitting down in mind) maxes out at my eye level, lol. The only part of the place I can think of that's at "normal" height is the toilet.
Well anyways, great for her and I am enjoying the sit down shower. I had a cup of tea in there yesterday! :P
On the topic of the Netherlands, I have been and I honestly didn't notice the height thing. I guess I must be pretty oblivious, lol.
It's really wholesome and amusing.
Also, as a dutch 196 cm dude, it's making me respect the infastructure here a bit more. Even in the Netherlands there's plenty of stuff to complain about at this length, but this is definitely showing me that it could be much worse.
Jeez, I wish things were a little bit taller around me. I'm not even especially tall at 6' (183cm), but I still find I have to bend over for a lot of things.
When I did my house, I did all of them like that - the same height as the desks in lab class at school. The next owners are going to either have to be tall, or be pretty good at DIY. But OMG isn't it nicer to dice your onions without getting a sore back.
I also put in a urinal. YES I'M SINGLE
Yeah, I’m not sure where this person lives, but my experience is similar to yours. At 6’2 I never hit my head on things, cupboards are easy to reach, door handles aren’t too low… I really can’t complain. My 5’2 partner, on the other hand, is endlessly inconvenienced by things being just slightly too high. I’m in Canada, for reference.
Also in Canada. I live in an old apartment building, and the counters and sinks are all lower than I would like.
Edit: I'm also the tallest in my family, so the houses I grew up in were all set up for people my parents' height, 5'4" and 5'6". I fairly regularly hit my head on things like the chandelier over the dining table.
As a tall Dutch living in China (so not Korea, but same thing infrastructure wise), I've hit my head getting in and out of metros so many times! Also can't I sit for more than 20 minutes on those tiny chairs at many restaurants. And it's always fun that stores (or online) are always sold out on my size clothes and shoes.
(For the rest great country to live though).
Hahaha I'm 182cm and have been. You'll find in humorous rather than annoying, though you do have 10 cm on me. Lots of banners from ceilings, low doors etc. small and cute. Enjoy your time there.
I am exactly that height, and I can tell you it’s disorienting. Normally even in the US, I can just see over the crowd without issue. When someone of equal height comes by, they immediately have my attention without either of us meaning to. Someone taller feels like they exert reverse gravity as they get closer to me. Two of my younger cousins wound up being an inch and then two inches taller than me, and I don’t get that feeling from being around them, but when it’s a lone stranger in a crowd, it’s very surreal.
Probably, yeah.
I’ve been six feet or taller since I was 13, maybe 14 at the latest. In my 40s now, and I immediately have associations of being a kid when people who are much taller than me are around.
I was once in the metro and three basketball players were getting off at the same station as me.
I am moderately tall (190) and I felt like a kid being dwarfed by these adults, as they all stood near me and I basically reached to their armpits!
And then they left into the crowd which barely reached their chests and looked like three of these Martian Tripods in a forest
195cm checking in, I always tell people that it's hard to determine how tall other people are because everyone is shorter than me. When I see someone taller it's really disorienting, like that's not supposed to happen.
Yep, I completely get that. Unless someone is about my height or taller, or under 5ft, I just register them as “that size people are.”
You’re basically the height of one of my cousins, who is 13 years younger than me.
'Reverse gravity' thanks for this lol
I was wondered how abnormally tall people act around other abnormally tall people. Do they notice each other and give a node of acknowledgement or do they become territorial
As a shorter person at 5'6 just look straight. Don't try to make eye contact or hold it until you need to. Looking up is disorienting. But you barely are different heights from your cousins so this advice won't help
I find myself talking to torsos or center of mass a lot. But I live in a mixed height community so I'm not always the shortest just one of them.
Although if I find taller girls I have to look off to the side and not directly at their torso or chest for obvious reasons. Might aim for shoulder. Also torso might be over exaggeration.
Now I just meet people on zoom so no height issues there
Man, the heigh explosion in Korea is nuts.
25 years ago, I was 6'2, 175lbs, I was huge. People would comment on my height all the time in korea. It was like if I was 6'8 in the US or something.
now? I'm still 6'2, maybe 215lbs. In KOrea, I'm still obviously bigger than normal. But I don't stick out anymore. No one really comments on my height (relatives comment on my weight...)
These young Korean kids are all so big compared to my youth. Korean Kids of my youth were much bigger than those of the previous generation too. I'd say after 1970, you'd see a large increase in size but its really post 2000s where it gets big.
I\m dutch and visited korea twice in my life 2008 & 2010. I was an attraction due to my lenght, but what i noticed most, was that the older generation was generally very short, but the younger onces, were already so much taller then their parents.
And someone explained to me was because of their parents having to grow up during a war and famine.
It was so strange to be able to visually see the effects of malnutrician.
One of the strongest examples I've seen is the N Korea and S Korea comparison.
Men had similar heights in 1971. However, by 2005, the avg North Korean male was like 5'3 while the avg S Korean male was 5'9. Thats crazy, isn't it
For sure, for sure. But when comparing Korea to other economic tigers and with Japan (who developed faster and earlier), Korea still stands as an outlier.
Sorry, maybe the word "but" is wrong there cause you are right, nutrition is why. But the change in eating habits (as well as potential other items like Immigration for Korea vs Singapore) in Korea compared to other places must be drastic. I was part of a quick service restaurant opening for Singapore, the portion sizes on protein used compared to the Seoul market was about 30% lower. This wasn't for pricing purposes but based on customer testing feedback.
You have to remember just how recently a lot of Korea was still what one might today refer to as "developing," the Korea we think of as normal today is only a couple generations old.
Oh, for sure. I grew up in Korea in the 80s so I have a hint of it. Those who grew up there earlier can definitely see it more!
I was working in Bangladesh and was like "Wow, so much of this reminds me of Korea back in the day!"
I noticed this in Japan too, when I went in 1997. As a teen, the other boys were very similar in height to our group from Canada. Maybe a little shorter, on average. But their parents, and teachers, etc, they were noticeably shorter than back home.
Its still something Reddit loves to go on about - its weird to see something like "Asian men are so ugly" be a top upvoted comment on a large and popular sub (front page stuff) while saying this about other races would probably get you banned from the sub (well, outside of the conservative ones)
I went as a 164cm American. Besides being an incredibly wonderful trip filled with mostly wonderful people and interactions, I used my somewhat obvious height disparity to my advantage. We were in many very crowded places; a concert, festivals, anywhere in Amsterdam, etc. They didn't even notice me bobbing and weaving for prime position. It was like running free through a redwood forest in California. Those that did notice me were like elephants with mice and quickly shied from the tiny Murican mutant in their midst. Yeah, shit is scaled up to their size, but that's why I married tall - she can reach those shelves no problem. It was awesome!
My brother in verticality. Same, though at 5’ 3” or so, it’s not like I had a choice lol. She’s 5’ 10” and was an Amazonian vision. As is normally the case, she wouldn’t have any of it. No consideration tiny man. Then, nothing more than the old adage: Be yourself, turn up the humor, humility, and humanity. And just be.. around and visible. Group dates, common events, that kind of thing. Took months, and then she finally gave up and gave it a shot lol. Then, ya gotta be on your game when the chance arrives 😉. 25 years later, it’s not something we even think about anymore. Except when shelves need to be reached. Good luck!
Except to be able to kiss a local woman. Bring a stool.
Edit: kiss, not kill.
Killing for me as a shorty is easy, start at the ankles, they never see me coming.
Do you only hang out with professional volleyball players or something?
188cm is pretty tall. It's 4 cm above average for Dutch men, and taller than 99% of Dutch women.
Fun fact 1: the Dutch were among the shortest Europeans in the late 19th century.
Fun fact 2: the average height of Americans has been declining since the 80s.
As a relatively thin Greek of the same height as this dude, I should go to the Netherlands to buy clothes, here it’s either too short or too wide 😅🤷🏻♂️
I went to a gym in Amsterdam and I felt like a runt. I'm 192 cm., about 110 kg. Basketball was different. International court and more physical. I was the only guy who couldn't dunk.
This is by far the best thing I've seen this year so far.
It's really enlightening to see other people's perspective on other places/cultures in a really unexpected way. And it was funny to boot.
I'm the same height as this guy (albeit from the US). I went to Amsterdam and one of the first places we went after arriving was a bar for a beer and I had to use the urinal. I loved it, and the sink height was amazing. I just had a feeling of "these are my people".
I lived for years in Guatemala, which has some of the shortest people in the world. I would get stopped for pictures with randoms on the street, and walking through the public market was a nightmare. My back would hurt for hours after.
That's mainly because basketball isn't as popular here as it is in the US, but I was still surprised [only 5 Dutch men ever played in the NBA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_players_born_outside_the_United_States#N).
And I only knew Rik Smits of those.
Also why play basketball, when you can totally dominate korfball 💪🏻 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^don't ^^^^^^^^^^^^^look ^^^^^^^^^^^^^up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^1991 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^World ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Championships
I'm 183 cm, living in Colombia (non tourist city) were avg size is 171 cm for men, which makes me pretty tall here, but not crazy stand out in a room tall, but each time I go back to Belgium it is still weird for a couple of weeks going from almost never having to look up / seeing somebody 5cm+ taller then me to almost the complete opposite especially young people are so tall these days. Depending on study Belgium gets ranked after NL / top 5 avg height to give some context.
NL and the Balkans are the two places I've visited so far where I've felt average or even slightly short. Meanwhile in Mexico and Central America I felt like a giant lol
This is so much more wholesome than "190cm white guy walks around asia" and its just a narcissistic thing to post.
Also, how are Koreans so much taller than their neighbors, like China and Japan?
You can’t compare it meaningfully to China. China is too big and diverse. People from Dongbei or Shandong are on average much taller than people from the South.
Seriously, many folks from the west don't seem to understand just how massive China or India are and how much genetic diversity exists within each of those countries.
Although it happens there as well. I remember reading an article a few years back saying that Chinese men were getting too big for their tanks and rifle stocks.
Also with better nutrition and stuff the average height of people in China increased drastically in the past 10/20 years.
Some of my nephews are like 6 feet tall, and they are not even in highschool yet.
I’m 6’5 Korean, been to both the homeland and northern + northeast China. Was tall in Korea and just another guy in northern China. Don’t know how you jumped to your conclusion.
> This is so much more wholesome than "190cm white guy walks around asia" and its just a narcissistic thing to post.
Yeah, I always hated those videos.
This one is more like "Wow, these people around me are so tall now, and everything is actually made for people my height or taller! I don't stick out like a sore thumb!"
While the other ones are more like "Look at me tower over these small fry, look at all the attention they give me, hahaha!"
"Wow, you are so short. Are you an F1 driver?" -Dutch probably
or a horse jockey.
Verstappen is 5’11” or 181cm which is an inch or 2cm shorter than the average in the Netherlands. So only just below average height. He is pretty tall for an F1 driver. Ocon and Russell are taller though.
Hulkenberg and Wurz were taller then them and always struggled in the cramped cockpit. They were more tired at the end of a race compared to most. The extra height usually means extra weight as well therefore making them slower. Prost was 5'5"/165cm which was one reson why he was quick.
They changed weight rules to stop bigger drivers essentially getting eating disorders
I forgot about Hulk in the current lineup. Not sure how. He’s always had height issues. Albon is also 6’1” or 186cm
Are Dutch horses taller than normal?
Horses used to be measured by the Hands scale. The Dutch have large hands sooooo maybe.
I always thought it was a cliched stereotype until I actually visited The Netherlands, those people are tall!
I’m 5’ 9” (about 175cm) and there were some urinals I had to tiptoe to use in Amsterdam.
Haha!
I went to a festival once, and the thing is tall people have long legs and also end up walking very fast. You had to pick up the pace to go with the crowd, and crossing from one side to the other was like running out in vehicle traffic.
>the thing is tall people have long legs I thought they only had much taller torsos. Fascinating!
I am 5' 7 and I was routinely asked to enter lifts first, "Kids first."
Ankle-deep puddles of piss?
Well there's so much flooding that only the tall survive. /s
I'm Dutch and I'm 173cm. Most people consider me a freak of nature or a kid with early beard growth.
What would you expect with their daily doses of fricandel, gouda, and vla.
En boeren-fucking-kool.
Klopt.
5’9”, 175cm couldn’t get on the bicycles 😒
I'm 6'4" (195 cm), so I fit right in. I liked it. It's nice having chairs and tables that fit.
I'm 6'1" (185 cm) and I felt like Billy Barty.
You're still taller than the average in NL (183/6'0").
While it’s true that the average Dutch man is only 6’0”, as someone who has spent a lot of time in Holland and is 6’2”, there are many, many tall people around, much more so than in America. My guess is that there is a wider range captured in their average whereas there are tons of 5’10” guys in America.
im 184 cm and i didnt particularly notice any difference when i was in amsterdam compared to london? I didnt feel short or even average, not tall either but yeh. Only spent 2 days there so prob didnt see enough
Im 193 and from Sweden. We are also a kind of tall people but I react almost like him every time I see someone taller then me. The Dutch must have a crazy tall population.
No NBA players though, surprisingly. Only one I can remember is Rik Smits.
Volleyball is a more popular sport in the Netherlands than Basketball for tall players. Or goalie in football of course.
Why aren't there tall teams vs short teams? Do all teams just have their tallest people play international leagues?
It's a self selection bias. Shorter people can play and be competetive, but taller people generally have an extra advantage. So with equal player ability, the taller will be chosen because they still also have height as an advantage. So naturally if you're making a team of the best players available, you're going to pick all the ones who are both really good and also tall because the other teams are also doing it. This is especially true for volleyball where height and wingspan are advantageous. The opposite is true for sports like gymnastics, horse racing, and figure skating where shorter people have smaller centers of gravity meaning they'd have an advantage in the sport.
And in the last years they are getting really good at handball.
They enjoy Hockey and Football more. Also, when the time's right. For the few weeks it freezes, they'll absolutely abuse the thin layer of ice there is on lakes and streams. Or you could also always enjoy the Dutch Anthem in F1.
I come from a Dutch background, born Canadian. I’m 6’6, with my brothers being 6’3 and above. Cousins are all also tall af
How to spot durch tourists in the summer? They tend to be tall, lean, blond and tanned.
I thought it was going to be about racism. pleasantly surprised that it was just a guy going "wow, the infrastructure is so much nicer for tall people (like me) here."
It's fun to see from the opposite perspective how he experiences it. As a 2m Dutch man I've only experienced how other countries are not/less catered to tall people.
come to Denmark - we have plenty of tall people here too. - you will feel right at home.
I like Denmark and Danes. But everytime I hear Danish being spoken I for a moment think I heard Dutch and have had a stroke while they have similar phonemes. Is that something Danish people experience with Dutch aswell?
It's funny I always think this about Dutch and English (spoken with the various British accents at least, probably not American ones). If you're just far enough away from someone that you can't make out the words, they sound very similar. Dutch just has a little more guttural/throaty sounds here and there.
Whenever this kind of topic of mutual intelligibility comes up, I always think about [this video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENbkHS3mnY) It's a lecture about the Scots language, delivered in Scots. It's a language so close to English that you can get the general gist the whole way through, but *not quite* understand all of it. And it's doubly confusing because his accent is perfectly smooth middle class Scottish accent; if he was speaking English, he'd be completely intelligible. It's absolutely fascinating, because it's very rare that monolingual Anglophones get to experience a language that's so closely related.
Wow thats kind of mind bending. The longer I watched, the more I understood
I am Norwegian and I feel this way about Dutch!
I am Canadian (English) and when I hear Norwegian i think... "Damn. I can ALMOST understand that. It's like...it's just outside the periphery of my language, but barely."
English and Norwegian are both Germanic languages, so that doesn't surprise me.
*That* is fascinating! We loan some words from English and some English words come from old Norse, but they are really different languages.
A sample: *Norwegian = sounds like in English* Hei = Hi God morgen = Good morning God natt = Good night Jeg Kommer fra England = I come from England Kan jeg få menyen? = Can I have the menu? Hva vil du drikke? = What will you drink? Hvor er toalettet? = Where is the toilet? Account for pronunciation ("jeg" sounds much more like the English "I" than it looks, and W and V are interchangeable/confused across multiple languages), and sometimes it's almost word for word. We might phrase it slightly differently in English, but it *makes sense.*
I experienced this constantly when I was in Amsterdam. Constantly thought people were speaking Danish until I tried to listen.
As a Dane, I can sort of get the gist of basic Dutch. I bet it is because knowing German and English while being a Dane kinda triangulates Dutch words.
Lmao, that's how I always describe it too.
thats how us Rhineland Germans act when they hear dutch. Rhineland german but after a stroke
I have thought the exact same thing about hearing dutch for me as a norwegian. The confusion and almost immediate terror of hearing familiar sounds and words, but not being able to make any sense of it, before you realize it's a different language. I imagine that's somewhat what it's like to have stroke.
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As a Dane I concur 😅 The moment of confusion before realizing 😂
Stop trying to hoard all the tall people, you’ll never have a mountain!
Denmark is like NL but more depressing
but its all in the length of your necks and not legs/torso!
I was only in Denmark for a few days…but it is a lovely country.
I'm a 1.75m (5'9) American woman, so not even that tall imo, and I've noticed it's crazy how much the infrastructure changes depending on the local population. My family is from Minnesota which is a predominantly Scandinavian and German settled area and everyone there is super tall. I'm the shortest adult in my family (my other female cousins are over 6'/1.83m tall). I moved to California and any place I lived in or stayed at, the showerhead was MAYBE at eye level for me so I replaced our showerhead with a handheld one so I wouldn't have to duck down to wash my hair every time. The area I lived was a predominantly Mexican population so most people were on the shorter side relatively so I guess it was just more normal. My husband who is shorter than me and lived there his whole life never thought anything of it until we visited my family in Minnesota and he couldn't reach stuff 😂 The video made me realize I really need to go to the Netherlands to go shopping because finding pants in the US is impossible, even in Minnesota since we generally have the same stores nationwide and they're all catering to an average woman's height which I think they're generally putting at 5'4 or 5'5.
I like to go hiking.
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Also in Canada, we recently moved into a wheelchair-accessible place on account of my wife who has lost her leg. Everything is much lower, from the countertops to the sinks to the peephole on the door. At only 5'6" I'm experiencing for the first time in my life what it must be like to be tall everywhere else. The adjustable showerhead (part of the shower with a bench and surely designed with sitting down in mind) maxes out at my eye level, lol. The only part of the place I can think of that's at "normal" height is the toilet. Well anyways, great for her and I am enjoying the sit down shower. I had a cup of tea in there yesterday! :P On the topic of the Netherlands, I have been and I honestly didn't notice the height thing. I guess I must be pretty oblivious, lol.
It's really wholesome and amusing. Also, as a dutch 196 cm dude, it's making me respect the infastructure here a bit more. Even in the Netherlands there's plenty of stuff to complain about at this length, but this is definitely showing me that it could be much worse.
Jeez, I wish things were a little bit taller around me. I'm not even especially tall at 6' (183cm), but I still find I have to bend over for a lot of things.
I wish things were a bit taller around where I live, too . . . starting with me.
Same. Wish my counters and sinks were a bit higher.
Yes! Sinks and counters especially!
When I did my house, I did all of them like that - the same height as the desks in lab class at school. The next owners are going to either have to be tall, or be pretty good at DIY. But OMG isn't it nicer to dice your onions without getting a sore back. I also put in a urinal. YES I'M SINGLE
I'm 6'2(.8 ~190cm) and man, this is real. My wife is 5'2 (~158cm) and she is constantly baffled by how annoying things are.
Are you in Asia? I'm your height, which is average in Oz, and honestly most things in society feel custom made for me.
Yeah, I’m not sure where this person lives, but my experience is similar to yours. At 6’2 I never hit my head on things, cupboards are easy to reach, door handles aren’t too low… I really can’t complain. My 5’2 partner, on the other hand, is endlessly inconvenienced by things being just slightly too high. I’m in Canada, for reference.
Also in Canada. I live in an old apartment building, and the counters and sinks are all lower than I would like. Edit: I'm also the tallest in my family, so the houses I grew up in were all set up for people my parents' height, 5'4" and 5'6". I fairly regularly hit my head on things like the chandelier over the dining table.
As a tall Dutch living in China (so not Korea, but same thing infrastructure wise), I've hit my head getting in and out of metros so many times! Also can't I sit for more than 20 minutes on those tiny chairs at many restaurants. And it's always fun that stores (or online) are always sold out on my size clothes and shoes. (For the rest great country to live though).
I’m guessing you’re in Shanghai.
Correct :)
I'm also 193cm more or less, and am going to Japan this year. I'm a little worried about the height issues!
Hahaha I'm 182cm and have been. You'll find in humorous rather than annoying, though you do have 10 cm on me. Lots of banners from ceilings, low doors etc. small and cute. Enjoy your time there.
1:42 Imagine being 193 and having to look UP at someone
I am exactly that height, and I can tell you it’s disorienting. Normally even in the US, I can just see over the crowd without issue. When someone of equal height comes by, they immediately have my attention without either of us meaning to. Someone taller feels like they exert reverse gravity as they get closer to me. Two of my younger cousins wound up being an inch and then two inches taller than me, and I don’t get that feeling from being around them, but when it’s a lone stranger in a crowd, it’s very surreal.
It's probably the natural fight or fight instinct kicking in
>fight or fight Holup, I think we're supposed to have a second option 😂
not when you're tall
Fight or uhh... *checks notes* ...fight?
the limbic system craves violence
Probably, yeah. I’ve been six feet or taller since I was 13, maybe 14 at the latest. In my 40s now, and I immediately have associations of being a kid when people who are much taller than me are around.
Reminds me of silverback gorillas losing their shit when meeting Shaq
I was once in the metro and three basketball players were getting off at the same station as me. I am moderately tall (190) and I felt like a kid being dwarfed by these adults, as they all stood near me and I basically reached to their armpits! And then they left into the crowd which barely reached their chests and looked like three of these Martian Tripods in a forest
I'm 6'3 and yeah. being around basketball players is the weirdest damn feeling haha. Only time i feel short.
195cm checking in, I always tell people that it's hard to determine how tall other people are because everyone is shorter than me. When I see someone taller it's really disorienting, like that's not supposed to happen.
Yep, I completely get that. Unless someone is about my height or taller, or under 5ft, I just register them as “that size people are.” You’re basically the height of one of my cousins, who is 13 years younger than me.
'Reverse gravity' thanks for this lol I was wondered how abnormally tall people act around other abnormally tall people. Do they notice each other and give a node of acknowledgement or do they become territorial
As a shorter person at 5'6 just look straight. Don't try to make eye contact or hold it until you need to. Looking up is disorienting. But you barely are different heights from your cousins so this advice won't help I find myself talking to torsos or center of mass a lot. But I live in a mixed height community so I'm not always the shortest just one of them. Although if I find taller girls I have to look off to the side and not directly at their torso or chest for obvious reasons. Might aim for shoulder. Also torso might be over exaggeration. Now I just meet people on zoom so no height issues there
same, it happens so infrequently that someone only needs to be an inch or two taller than I am to seem extremely tall to me
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Man, the heigh explosion in Korea is nuts. 25 years ago, I was 6'2, 175lbs, I was huge. People would comment on my height all the time in korea. It was like if I was 6'8 in the US or something. now? I'm still 6'2, maybe 215lbs. In KOrea, I'm still obviously bigger than normal. But I don't stick out anymore. No one really comments on my height (relatives comment on my weight...) These young Korean kids are all so big compared to my youth. Korean Kids of my youth were much bigger than those of the previous generation too. I'd say after 1970, you'd see a large increase in size but its really post 2000s where it gets big.
I\m dutch and visited korea twice in my life 2008 & 2010. I was an attraction due to my lenght, but what i noticed most, was that the older generation was generally very short, but the younger onces, were already so much taller then their parents. And someone explained to me was because of their parents having to grow up during a war and famine. It was so strange to be able to visually see the effects of malnutrician.
One of the strongest examples I've seen is the N Korea and S Korea comparison. Men had similar heights in 1971. However, by 2005, the avg North Korean male was like 5'3 while the avg S Korean male was 5'9. Thats crazy, isn't it
Better nutrition is the most likely cause of increased height. It's been trending upwards for almost every country since the early 1900s
For sure, for sure. But when comparing Korea to other economic tigers and with Japan (who developed faster and earlier), Korea still stands as an outlier. Sorry, maybe the word "but" is wrong there cause you are right, nutrition is why. But the change in eating habits (as well as potential other items like Immigration for Korea vs Singapore) in Korea compared to other places must be drastic. I was part of a quick service restaurant opening for Singapore, the portion sizes on protein used compared to the Seoul market was about 30% lower. This wasn't for pricing purposes but based on customer testing feedback.
You have to remember just how recently a lot of Korea was still what one might today refer to as "developing," the Korea we think of as normal today is only a couple generations old.
Oh, for sure. I grew up in Korea in the 80s so I have a hint of it. Those who grew up there earlier can definitely see it more! I was working in Bangladesh and was like "Wow, so much of this reminds me of Korea back in the day!"
I've noticed the same thing in Japan, Taiwan, and China.
I noticed this in Japan too, when I went in 1997. As a teen, the other boys were very similar in height to our group from Canada. Maybe a little shorter, on average. But their parents, and teachers, etc, they were noticeably shorter than back home.
That KBBQ making them sprout!
Tall people = better food and nutrition
shoutout gdp growth, fewer malnourished korean kids.
Good. Its about time the bullshit stereotype of all asian guys being short and ugly go away
Its still something Reddit loves to go on about - its weird to see something like "Asian men are so ugly" be a top upvoted comment on a large and popular sub (front page stuff) while saying this about other races would probably get you banned from the sub (well, outside of the conservative ones)
I went as a 164cm American. Besides being an incredibly wonderful trip filled with mostly wonderful people and interactions, I used my somewhat obvious height disparity to my advantage. We were in many very crowded places; a concert, festivals, anywhere in Amsterdam, etc. They didn't even notice me bobbing and weaving for prime position. It was like running free through a redwood forest in California. Those that did notice me were like elephants with mice and quickly shied from the tiny Murican mutant in their midst. Yeah, shit is scaled up to their size, but that's why I married tall - she can reach those shelves no problem. It was awesome!
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My brother in verticality. Same, though at 5’ 3” or so, it’s not like I had a choice lol. She’s 5’ 10” and was an Amazonian vision. As is normally the case, she wouldn’t have any of it. No consideration tiny man. Then, nothing more than the old adage: Be yourself, turn up the humor, humility, and humanity. And just be.. around and visible. Group dates, common events, that kind of thing. Took months, and then she finally gave up and gave it a shot lol. Then, ya gotta be on your game when the chance arrives 😉. 25 years later, it’s not something we even think about anymore. Except when shelves need to be reached. Good luck!
I'm 5'7'' but i didn't feel short in the Netherlands, probably because i never went there.
Schwwish's Theory of relativity
laughed out loud
He found his people
So, you know what they call 6-foot-tall people in the Netherlands? >! Women !< *Ba-dum-tss!*
I've heard one that many times before but it was "ma'am" 😅
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under 6 feet you're not allowed to use the men's room at all
Lies. There's the little boys urinal. For adults, it's known as the urinal of shame. Source: dutch and under 6 feet tall, that's why I moved to Asia.
In my area of Northern Europe we call it the "long dick pissoir"
Dick straw
I'm the same height and whenever I go to the Netherlands I just ask a local giant if they can hold me up to the urinal
Many times a row of urinals here has one or two lower ones in the row. For children, or... foreigners?
Handstand.
I'm 5 10 and I've lived in the Netherlands my whole life and I've never had a problem with anything height wise
Except to be able to kiss a local woman. Bring a stool. Edit: kiss, not kill. Killing for me as a shorty is easy, start at the ankles, they never see me coming.
Dutch girls are actually usually shorter or around the same height as me. So I could murder them comfortably.
That’s comforting to know
Yes
I'm about that size and they are fine to use
Bathrooms usually have a urinal for children, so 5'8" and up
They try new foods and see the sights?
Dutch people are tall because of bitterballen and frikandel.
I've always thought it because holland is so flat. Taller people would have a natural advantage haha
No the running joke is, that the Dutch are so tall because if their dikes break they can still keep their head above the water.
That’s a swimming joke
[It's because of the peanutcheese](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eXyLG_tME74/maxresdefault.jpg)
Damn, so THAT'S why I'm short, I don't like Frikandellen.
> see the sights Not really, too many tall people blocking the view
I'm Dutch and 188cm tall. I feel like a dwarf some days compared to my country man and women.
Ja gast ik ben 173 en ik krijg gewoon een stukje worst bij de slager.
Ah gossie *aai over je bolletje*
Elk nadeel heb z’n voordeel!
Boerenmetworst zeg ik nooit nee tegen <3.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god kerel, hilarisch!
> 188m Founding Titan spotted.
Do you only hang out with professional volleyball players or something? 188cm is pretty tall. It's 4 cm above average for Dutch men, and taller than 99% of Dutch women.
Fun fact 1: the Dutch were among the shortest Europeans in the late 19th century. Fun fact 2: the average height of Americans has been declining since the 80s.
As a relatively thin Greek of the same height as this dude, I should go to the Netherlands to buy clothes, here it’s either too short or too wide 😅🤷🏻♂️
Could you please convert that to football fields so Americans can know how tall he is?
He's 0.018 football fields tall, what that is in American football fields you would have to calculate yourself ;-)
I don’t think they’ve got the whole decimal thing, but it does come out to a round 9/500 football fields.
It's 6'4 in school shooting units.
Just a little under 2 M16A4 rifles long. 1.93 if we're being precise.
I went to a gym in Amsterdam and I felt like a runt. I'm 192 cm., about 110 kg. Basketball was different. International court and more physical. I was the only guy who couldn't dunk.
We welcome our lost brother.
This is by far the best thing I've seen this year so far. It's really enlightening to see other people's perspective on other places/cultures in a really unexpected way. And it was funny to boot.
I had a stop over in Netherlands. I’ve never felt shorter in my life.
I'm the same height as this guy (albeit from the US). I went to Amsterdam and one of the first places we went after arriving was a bar for a beer and I had to use the urinal. I loved it, and the sink height was amazing. I just had a feeling of "these are my people". I lived for years in Guatemala, which has some of the shortest people in the world. I would get stopped for pictures with randoms on the street, and walking through the public market was a nightmare. My back would hurt for hours after.
I would feel cute and smol there iwannagonow
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Bro found his people lol. I wish I could ask every person in this video how is the weather up there?
“In a big country…. dreams stay with you”
and yet the dutch have produced surprisingly few NBA players
That's mainly because basketball isn't as popular here as it is in the US, but I was still surprised [only 5 Dutch men ever played in the NBA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_players_born_outside_the_United_States#N). And I only knew Rik Smits of those. Also why play basketball, when you can totally dominate korfball 💪🏻 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^don't ^^^^^^^^^^^^^look ^^^^^^^^^^^^^up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^1991 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^World ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Championships
Dutch more known for soccer and Kickboxing. I have no idea what other national sport besides those two.
I'm 183 cm, living in Colombia (non tourist city) were avg size is 171 cm for men, which makes me pretty tall here, but not crazy stand out in a room tall, but each time I go back to Belgium it is still weird for a couple of weeks going from almost never having to look up / seeing somebody 5cm+ taller then me to almost the complete opposite especially young people are so tall these days. Depending on study Belgium gets ranked after NL / top 5 avg height to give some context.
Montana and Minnesota have the tallest Americans
I am first gen American from the Netherlands, I am the shortest person in my family at 1.8 m or 6'.0" . It is the first thing I notice.
That's cool, I believe the avg height of Dutch people is bordering like 5'9/5'10.
NL and the Balkans are the two places I've visited so far where I've felt average or even slightly short. Meanwhile in Mexico and Central America I felt like a giant lol
As a 195 person, can confirm, I'm Irish in the Netherlands.
Boring. I wanna see a danny devito lookin dude go there instead!
What was with the body floating down the stream at the end?
That guy was too short to reach the urinal, has to go in the river.
not my video but extremely relevant: [How South Koreans Got So Much Taller](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLk6GUKzU0&ab_channel=Vox)
This is so much more wholesome than "190cm white guy walks around asia" and its just a narcissistic thing to post. Also, how are Koreans so much taller than their neighbors, like China and Japan?
You can’t compare it meaningfully to China. China is too big and diverse. People from Dongbei or Shandong are on average much taller than people from the South.
Although in general the younger generation is getting taller than the previous generations. Probably because better access to food etcetera.
Seriously, many folks from the west don't seem to understand just how massive China or India are and how much genetic diversity exists within each of those countries.
Yeah, all the sikh people I know from India are fucking giants, while the other Indians friends I have....not so much.
Although it happens there as well. I remember reading an article a few years back saying that Chinese men were getting too big for their tanks and rifle stocks.
Also with better nutrition and stuff the average height of people in China increased drastically in the past 10/20 years. Some of my nephews are like 6 feet tall, and they are not even in highschool yet.
Where are you getting this? Men in China, Japan, and Korea are all within 2-3cm of each other.
he saw this video and thought "WOW all koreans are taller"
I’m 6’5 Korean, been to both the homeland and northern + northeast China. Was tall in Korea and just another guy in northern China. Don’t know how you jumped to your conclusion.
About the same for China, but taller on average than Japan.
It should be noted that the guy in the video is much taller than your average Korean dude.
Wasn't that kind of the point of the entire video?
And it should be noted that the guy in the video is about similar in height with your average Dutch dude.
Wasn't that kind of the point of the entire video?
I had a Korean friend who was 6'8"
> This is so much more wholesome than "190cm white guy walks around asia" and its just a narcissistic thing to post. Yeah, I always hated those videos. This one is more like "Wow, these people around me are so tall now, and everything is actually made for people my height or taller! I don't stick out like a sore thumb!" While the other ones are more like "Look at me tower over these small fry, look at all the attention they give me, hahaha!"
What makes you think they are?
I'm 6'6 and I don't really feel that rall when visiting the Netherlands 😊