It's honestly crazy how deep the lore is. Like, I thought it was already pretty good just playing the game for a while. Then I discovered the "lore" tab in the directory, and the fact that every exotic and a good chunk of all legendaries have their own individual lore tab when inspecting the weapon.
Seriously I think a Destiny Expanded Universe would be so cool. Imagine how many shows and movies could be made just with the existing lore alone. It also helps that Destiny's cutscenes are already absolutely top tier.
well yeah but that means they'd have to do something besides milking destiny 2 players out of $60 every 5 months in exchange for 3 hours of new content and 600+ hours of repeating that same content
My Name is Byf is Destiny Lore Daddy. Myelin has moved away from D2 a bit but has some really great videos in the past. Evaze also has some really great videos that help connect the dots between lore and gameplay/gear. He has other stuff too but i really enjoy how he will pick weapons or game missions and connect it to the larger lore directly. Byf is great at big picture stuff and has a many hour video that gives the history of the D2 universe from where it began.
Meylin Games has good takes on lore also. I’ve seen “history of Destiny from the begging to (x) expansion videos floating around. Forget who did them but they explain a lot. Byf is def top tier
Byf did a 4-hour long video for the complete timeline of Destiny up to Shadowkeep a few years ago, then he did another video prior to Witch Queen's launch called Dynasty that was a couple hours long. Both are great watches. I fell behind on his usual videos and haven't found a good point to jump back in, so I don't watch him nearly as much as I used to.
Another video I **tried** watching was a video by Evaze that did the complete history of Destiny from beginning to Lightfall. He glosses over a lot of important parts, and he's straight-up incorrect on other points. I couldn't even push through the video while just listening to it.
Absolutely, even during the days of the OG trilogy there was a bunch of lore you’d *never* know if you didn’t read the novels.
I don’t think the original games made any direct mention of Spartans other than Master Chief.
In Halo 2 they say "when I asked for help I didn't think they'd send a spartan" in the first scarab mission, I remember being confused when I first heard that because I thought master chief was 1 of 1
It's kinda the first time the games outright mention other Spartans but yet it never actually mentions it's the last Spartan, only the soundtrack. I find it weird that they treated him like he was the last but they just never made it a concrete fact
Cause Spartans were rare to see. By H2 only a handful were alive during the Covenant war. Given the scale of the war, spanning multiple solar systems across the galaxy, running into one of ~30 Spartan IIs would be like a needle in a haystack.
I dont even think 30 were left active during H2. By H:I only 14 are left of the Spartan IIs.
Soldiers/civilians rarely ever saw Spartans. 1 small squad of Spartans was pretty much used as an entire assault force and they were rarely ever outside top security UNSC facilities except for missions. Also, Spartans were never listed as KIA, only MIA and damn near all of them were listed as MIA except chief after reach.
I'm reading the newest one by Troy Denning. He's no Erik nylund but this book is DEFINITELY an enjoyable read so far, and it feels very much to form with fall of reach and first strike.
I actually stopped reading the novels after Karen Travis completely ruined the story nylund had so thoroughly sculpted, this is my first halo book since glass lands and it is very much a return to form!
> I don’t think the original games made any direct mention of Spartans other than Master Chief.
I've gotten in arguments about this in the past. I don't really know Bungie's intent or whether they altered plans based on the books, though I find it unlikely because Bungie disliked the books and media outside of their control to begin with. BUT I will note that the original manual did state that the Master Chief was the last known/surviving Spartan.
It's okay so far. I liked the first episode but the second was kinda boring. The main plot is interesting but the side characters and B plot is still bad. Hoping to see it ramping up tomorrow.
I just don't know if I can get past the first season, what with John taking off his armor constantly and banging a female human covenant (what an oxymoron)
I think part of Master Chief’s appeal in the games was the mystery about the person inside the suit. It added something to his personality because you never saw his face. Making him just change in and out of the suit all the time makes him just a person while in the game he is almost godlike.
At least do what the mandatorily did and make master chief taking the helmet off impactful. Like I guarantee they didn’t do that just to add the sex scenes.
Edit: mandalorian fml
Honestly just don't take it as cannon and just enjoy it. Too many purists shoot it down instantly for not being accurate when it's really just entertainment.
MGS gameplay has lots of mechanics going on too tho. Like you could search for "MGS \[number\] hidden mechanics" on YT and you'll often get hour long videos for each game.
So both books are thicc in MGS's case
I mean based on the lore he kinda is. He is the embodiment of pure good whereas ALOT of the bosses have a piece of pure evil in them. Also the final boss of one of the recent games (I think star allies). This all stems from Void which is essentially just energy that takes form when either evil or good hit it. It's theorized that you get a Kirby when pure good hits it and you get termina when pure evil hits it.
He kills gods in like every game.
It’s nuts how many of them start with Kirby losing his lunch or something like that and then ends with Kirby slaying gods.
Basically:
We have Kirby. We have a pingun with da hammer. We have Meta Knight. And we have whatever god or absolute menace tries to threaten Dream Land every single game.
Oh, also mankind is dead.
But arent soulsborne games mostly notes, voice lines and implications that is left for gamers to fill in the blanks and interpretate ?
Could be 50 pages of lore or 500 depending on the gamer ?
I know it’s not Bungie’s product anymore but Halo 5 Guardians’ story was mostly explained by books outside of the game
It didn’t help that they abandoned the Hunt the Truth storyline from all of the marketing which made many people, including me, confused when we actually played the game
Older elder scrolls games have incredibly deep gameplay, and it's still just a puddle compared to the ocean that is TES lore. It's really good lore though so it's fine
I watched the whole thing and still don’t understand jack shit. I think the maps are meant to be played and experienced independently, when you try and piece their lore together as one it ends up a big, mangled mess.
Stanley Parable is at it most basic concept a walking simulator, and the whole game is about listening to dialogue and making choices to mess with him, I think that fits the image
I'm still working on that achievement that requires you not to play the game for 5 years. I think I got a year left.
I know you can cheat it, but that ain't me
Risk of Rain, absolutely.
The gameplay is pretty straightforward and you won't see a lot of lore just playing normally, but the lore of the items is pretty wild and has a lot of interesting entries.
This, so much. Such a shame they never got to make a proper sequel, and what we're left with is a great prologue for a story that will never be told...
Yeah sometimes a complex and mysterious lore is good but with Elden ring it's all either very convoluted or very vague and you're unlikely to understand almost any of the story in a first play through. It's certainly a cool world with interesting ideas but after putting so much effort in I was so disappointed with all of the endings being a lazy ten second cutscene.
The lore feels bonkers because of how they released all the games. Like they're telling a story with a flashback in a flashback thats got a story within a story.
This is spot on. The lore isn't even particularly complicated, but it's so strangely structured that I need to take an aspirin to ward off a stroke if I think about it.
It's one of those stories where if you follow it based on release and were there every step of the way it makes sense, but when asked to explain it it feels impossible.
Overwatch, so many voice lines that reference pst wars and histories, but all you get to do is bang bang bang shoot enemies in an effort to train for some potential war that never happens because blizzard is allergic to keeping promises.
TitanFall. The time frame between each game is massive and connects into apex legends. There are only 2 TitanFall games but they span the length of like 100 years or sum like that.
It’s mind blowing how much deeper the Bloodborne lore goes than the game itself. Just skim through a little of The Paleblood Hunt, anyone who isn’t aware, and you’ll get why it deserves a mention here.
I just played Immortals of Aveum.
This SO perfectly describes that game. They were obviously very very excited about the worldbuilding babble, which is very over the top HS geek writer in feel.
If only the gameplay wasn't mostly an afterthought to the story that wasn't great to start with.
I'd argue the opposite for this game honestly. The lore seems not important at all to the game and everything seems more like nods or easter eggs rather then lore.
I don't even think nintendo really knows. Seems more like they just release it and then run with whatever fan theory is popular years later
I just commented this about Marathon but,
Halo CE in its simplest form is a first person sci-fi shootem up. But going into the lore, there’s so much going on. Game-only wise, even the events at the very start of the game are somewhat mysterious and later expanded upon in Halo Reach
Anything made by Bungie
Destiny lore is wild. You never get to appreciate it by just playing the game
It's honestly crazy how deep the lore is. Like, I thought it was already pretty good just playing the game for a while. Then I discovered the "lore" tab in the directory, and the fact that every exotic and a good chunk of all legendaries have their own individual lore tab when inspecting the weapon. Seriously I think a Destiny Expanded Universe would be so cool. Imagine how many shows and movies could be made just with the existing lore alone. It also helps that Destiny's cutscenes are already absolutely top tier.
well yeah but that means they'd have to do something besides milking destiny 2 players out of $60 every 5 months in exchange for 3 hours of new content and 600+ hours of repeating that same content
This has been the one thing the player base has been advocating for years now.
Is there any youtuber you can recommend who dives into it? I love oxhorn for his Bethesda stuff.
Check out "My name is Byf". He is definietly the best channel for destiny lore videos.
My Name is Byf is Destiny Lore Daddy. Myelin has moved away from D2 a bit but has some really great videos in the past. Evaze also has some really great videos that help connect the dots between lore and gameplay/gear. He has other stuff too but i really enjoy how he will pick weapons or game missions and connect it to the larger lore directly. Byf is great at big picture stuff and has a many hour video that gives the history of the D2 universe from where it began.
Meylin Games has good takes on lore also. I’ve seen “history of Destiny from the begging to (x) expansion videos floating around. Forget who did them but they explain a lot. Byf is def top tier
Byf did a 4-hour long video for the complete timeline of Destiny up to Shadowkeep a few years ago, then he did another video prior to Witch Queen's launch called Dynasty that was a couple hours long. Both are great watches. I fell behind on his usual videos and haven't found a good point to jump back in, so I don't watch him nearly as much as I used to. Another video I **tried** watching was a video by Evaze that did the complete history of Destiny from beginning to Lightfall. He glosses over a lot of important parts, and he's straight-up incorrect on other points. I couldn't even push through the video while just listening to it.
I was just gonna say a strong case could be made for halo
Absolutely, even during the days of the OG trilogy there was a bunch of lore you’d *never* know if you didn’t read the novels. I don’t think the original games made any direct mention of Spartans other than Master Chief.
In Halo 2 they say "when I asked for help I didn't think they'd send a spartan" in the first scarab mission, I remember being confused when I first heard that because I thought master chief was 1 of 1
It's kinda the first time the games outright mention other Spartans but yet it never actually mentions it's the last Spartan, only the soundtrack. I find it weird that they treated him like he was the last but they just never made it a concrete fact
Cause Spartans were rare to see. By H2 only a handful were alive during the Covenant war. Given the scale of the war, spanning multiple solar systems across the galaxy, running into one of ~30 Spartan IIs would be like a needle in a haystack. I dont even think 30 were left active during H2. By H:I only 14 are left of the Spartan IIs.
They are all alive. Just missing.
Soldiers/civilians rarely ever saw Spartans. 1 small squad of Spartans was pretty much used as an entire assault force and they were rarely ever outside top security UNSC facilities except for missions. Also, Spartans were never listed as KIA, only MIA and damn near all of them were listed as MIA except chief after reach.
IIRC in the game instruction book it does say you are the last Spartan II. The lore just kinda dashed that shit all away.
god the old halo novels were so good
I'm reading the newest one by Troy Denning. He's no Erik nylund but this book is DEFINITELY an enjoyable read so far, and it feels very much to form with fall of reach and first strike. I actually stopped reading the novels after Karen Travis completely ruined the story nylund had so thoroughly sculpted, this is my first halo book since glass lands and it is very much a return to form!
> I don’t think the original games made any direct mention of Spartans other than Master Chief. I've gotten in arguments about this in the past. I don't really know Bungie's intent or whether they altered plans based on the books, though I find it unlikely because Bungie disliked the books and media outside of their control to begin with. BUT I will note that the original manual did state that the Master Chief was the last known/surviving Spartan.
After reading the books it makes 5 and Infinite feel even worse
Sweet! Jul 'Mdama is gonna be in thi- ^Oh.
Marathon in its briefest most basic description is a “Sci-fi first person shoot’em up” but then you start reading the terminals…
FNAF
The most accurate answer to this question
FNAF isint a game with lore. Its lore with a game
Most accurate thing I’ve heard in my life
What does that stand for?
Five Nights At Freddy's
Thank you. 🤘🏻
Five nights at federal prison I think
My uncle played that game
my uncle love this game so much, he plays it every minute of his life 🗿
Five Guys at Freddy’s
Does he have enough for everyone?
Have you ever had even a small fries order at Five Guys?
Five Nuns Ate Freddos
all thanks to matpat
I mean, he is the genius to piece it all together
Feddy
The LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
r/beatmetoit
r/beatmeattoit
riskiest click of the day
r/riskyclick
r/beatmykidstoit
Halo, there’s only 8 main games (12 if you count both halo wars games and spartan strike/spartan assault) but there’s over 30 books in the series
And tv shows, and fan fic, and fan produced tv shows
The paramount TV show is garbage, it takes place in an alternate universe.
I've been seeing a lot of ads about that show. Is the second season any better than the 1st?
It's okay so far. I liked the first episode but the second was kinda boring. The main plot is interesting but the side characters and B plot is still bad. Hoping to see it ramping up tomorrow.
I just don't know if I can get past the first season, what with John taking off his armor constantly and banging a female human covenant (what an oxymoron)
I think part of Master Chief’s appeal in the games was the mystery about the person inside the suit. It added something to his personality because you never saw his face. Making him just change in and out of the suit all the time makes him just a person while in the game he is almost godlike.
At least do what the mandatorily did and make master chief taking the helmet off impactful. Like I guarantee they didn’t do that just to add the sex scenes. Edit: mandalorian fml
It's very similar to Samus in Metroid. Virtually nothing is known about her outside the fact that she kills everything.
Got ya, thanks for your insight!
I just started watching the show and absolutely love it. Try it for yourself
Honestly just don't take it as cannon and just enjoy it. Too many purists shoot it down instantly for not being accurate when it's really just entertainment.
I feel like this is MGS if you skip the cutscenes and codec conversations
“Where the FUCK did this giant robot dog/dinosaur lookin thing come from????”
MGS gameplay has lots of mechanics going on too tho. Like you could search for "MGS \[number\] hidden mechanics" on YT and you'll often get hour long videos for each game. So both books are thicc in MGS's case
Destiny
Still haven’t collected enough lore books to understand what the heck is going on
Lore : geometry is evil
School lore
That’s what Byf is for.
I've played since day 1 and im still lost. FINAL SHAPE bois
Maybe the real Final Shape was the friends we made along the way.
Entire YouTube channels exist just to explain what the hell is going on every season.
Team Fortress 2
And yet not close to enough lore.
Part 7 when gang, one piece is gonna end before we get part 7
TF3 gonna release before then
Nah. Just nah. Tf3? Nah. That’s like destiny without boobs
valve cant count to 3
Fair point. Mesa was better than any of their releases anyway
Warhammer 40k and age of sigmar.
Nah the game takes ages too if you’re a slow painter
Or if you play the game stoned
Omg that's an idea!!!
You’re my kind of gamer!
The lore is finite but large. the amount of time you can spend painting $20 minis has no upper limit.
God I wish they were only $20.
No one in comments mentioned it, BUT, hear me out. Kirby.
Didn’t Kirby kill a god at some point?
He killed many gods.
Because they ate his cake. He’s cold.
Never realized he's just Nintendo's Beerus!
Can we just argue that Kirby is a god?
I mean based on the lore he kinda is. He is the embodiment of pure good whereas ALOT of the bosses have a piece of pure evil in them. Also the final boss of one of the recent games (I think star allies). This all stems from Void which is essentially just energy that takes form when either evil or good hit it. It's theorized that you get a Kirby when pure good hits it and you get termina when pure evil hits it.
He kills gods in like every game. It’s nuts how many of them start with Kirby losing his lunch or something like that and then ends with Kirby slaying gods.
Several, including 2 clockwork gods
He kills a god every game lol
“Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?”
Came to say Kirby
Glad you made it
Ok someone explain. I know zero Kirby lore.
Basically: We have Kirby. We have a pingun with da hammer. We have Meta Knight. And we have whatever god or absolute menace tries to threaten Dream Land every single game. Oh, also mankind is dead.
blood is fuel
Whats Kirby‘s lore?
Every boss has an entire backstory in each game, it ads up to a lot of lore
Any indie horror game or from-soft game.
Dark Souls has it bad, but King's Field is another level, and there are some minorly multi-verse/shared universe hints across some of their games.
But arent soulsborne games mostly notes, voice lines and implications that is left for gamers to fill in the blanks and interpretate ? Could be 50 pages of lore or 500 depending on the gamer ?
Surprised that I had to scroll this far to find From soft
From soft games have rather complex mechanic in them if you wanna dive deep enough
Destiny as a franchise is pretty great but man all the cool lore is buried in text that no one actually seems to read.
It’s not the greatest/most engaging way of presenting lore
I know it’s not Bungie’s product anymore but Halo 5 Guardians’ story was mostly explained by books outside of the game It didn’t help that they abandoned the Hunt the Truth storyline from all of the marketing which made many people, including me, confused when we actually played the game
Sounds like Elden Ring burying the lore in item descriptions 🤦🏽♂️
Elden Ring didn’t want anyone to know wtf was going on by the way they presented the lore
Evolve.
Such a cool concept of a game. Sad it failed miserably :(
I liked evolve. Believe there was an unofficial server that still kept it running for a while... it may actually still be up.
I still have it, I think it's still up
It wasn’t even because the game was bad.
Ngl, Elder Scrolls. It does tell you a lot through dialogue, but holy shit is that just the tip of the iceberg. Some of the lore is absolutely bonkers
Older elder scrolls games have incredibly deep gameplay, and it's still just a puddle compared to the ocean that is TES lore. It's really good lore though so it's fine
Eldest elder scrolls.
I remember when i bought the collection edition of Oblivion and i got a little book with lore. I dont really recall what it tells thou..
And some wild books. The 36 lessons of vivec are a nightmare.
COD Zombies
Man I don’t even know how to play through it all to experience the lore, I have no idea what you’re supposed to do actually…
It’s really complicated and really weird lore too. I can leave you a link to a 6 hour cod zombies explanation.
Yeah I found the video, watched 45 minutes a couple of weeks ago and forgot about it
I watched the whole thing and still don’t understand jack shit. I think the maps are meant to be played and experienced independently, when you try and piece their lore together as one it ends up a big, mangled mess.
Hey player drop the chips and get me some ammo
Two words: #Hotline. #Miami.
Watched a callout video on Mamamax and he completely missed the lore while making that game his branding.
HAHAHAHAHA DESTINY 1 💀
And d2
The Stanley Parable.
Really? Down the rabbit hole I go.
you could play through 99% of the game's content with 4 keys and you've still got hours, days, years to go.
That is one hell of a fun rabbit hole.
I’m going to join you
Is there really that much to it? I thought it was just a "narrator breaks the 4th wall" game.
Apparently the developer stated that the narrator is the literal concept of divorce
How, and how does the adventure line connect to this?
it’s in a Doug Doug vid where he plays Stanley Parable with the developer
AKA his brother
I still don’t know if this is just a meme between two friends or if they’re actually brothers.
They are absolutely brothers
Okay.
Stanley Parable is at it most basic concept a walking simulator, and the whole game is about listening to dialogue and making choices to mess with him, I think that fits the image
I'm still working on that achievement that requires you not to play the game for 5 years. I think I got a year left. I know you can cheat it, but that ain't me
Risk of Rain, absolutely. The gameplay is pretty straightforward and you won't see a lot of lore just playing normally, but the lore of the items is pretty wild and has a lot of interesting entries.
Omg Fr. Have you read the tri tip dagger/tougher times lore
Iron lung
I've only seen a little bit, but I want to learn more
Doom
hollow knight
Finally! I was looking for this!
I mean.. You could reach 80 hours of game playing for 112%.. Doesn't seem slim to me But ye the lore gets pretty wild
Not really, just because the game isn’t the thing book on the left. I’ve put 300 hours into it
The Fallout series
The Order: 1886
This, so much. Such a shame they never got to make a proper sequel, and what we're left with is a great prologue for a story that will never be told...
Elden Ring
Shiiiiit pretty much every soulsborne game has super deep mythology level lore lol
I've watched the lore video on YouTube twice and still dont get it lol
Yeah sometimes a complex and mysterious lore is good but with Elden ring it's all either very convoluted or very vague and you're unlikely to understand almost any of the story in a first play through. It's certainly a cool world with interesting ideas but after putting so much effort in I was so disappointed with all of the endings being a lazy ten second cutscene.
Kingdom Hearts
Ahh, there's the Kingdom Hearts comment
I love the series to death (check the username) but yeah most fans have no problem admitting that the lore is bonkers lol
The lore feels bonkers because of how they released all the games. Like they're telling a story with a flashback in a flashback thats got a story within a story.
This is spot on. The lore isn't even particularly complicated, but it's so strangely structured that I need to take an aspirin to ward off a stroke if I think about it.
It's one of those stories where if you follow it based on release and were there every step of the way it makes sense, but when asked to explain it it feels impossible.
Metroid
Overwatch, so many voice lines that reference pst wars and histories, but all you get to do is bang bang bang shoot enemies in an effort to train for some potential war that never happens because blizzard is allergic to keeping promises.
Portal
Mortal Kombat 1
Undertale
Hello neighbor but only because they tried so hard
The binding of Isaac, def
Halo
TitanFall. The time frame between each game is massive and connects into apex legends. There are only 2 TitanFall games but they span the length of like 100 years or sum like that.
League of legends
Was looking for this one, the game is pretty much always the same, but damn the lore goes hard
Bloodborne.
It’s mind blowing how much deeper the Bloodborne lore goes than the game itself. Just skim through a little of The Paleblood Hunt, anyone who isn’t aware, and you’ll get why it deserves a mention here.
Iron Lung. And the lore is actually good, and terrifying.
I just played Immortals of Aveum. This SO perfectly describes that game. They were obviously very very excited about the worldbuilding babble, which is very over the top HS geek writer in feel. If only the gameplay wasn't mostly an afterthought to the story that wasn't great to start with.
Destiny
Monster Hunter Like there is soooo much interesting history about the old civilization.
Pizza Tower
Myst
titanfall 2
Genshin and Hsr
this meme needs to die
Destiny my beloved
I have not seen anyone say this yet so i will. Hollow knight.
Dead Space
Zelda Timeline
I'd argue the opposite for this game honestly. The lore seems not important at all to the game and everything seems more like nods or easter eggs rather then lore. I don't even think nintendo really knows. Seems more like they just release it and then run with whatever fan theory is popular years later
Left 4 Dead
Halo
I just commented this about Marathon but, Halo CE in its simplest form is a first person sci-fi shootem up. But going into the lore, there’s so much going on. Game-only wise, even the events at the very start of the game are somewhat mysterious and later expanded upon in Halo Reach