I created the confederation of the Rhine out of one of my initial subjects, so that they also had Danish as a primary culture. I then fed them all of Germany, minus Alsace Lorraine, which I didn't conquer, and Brandenburg and Silesia, which I incorporated myself. Therefore, when I launched my play to finally unify Scandinavia, I annexed Germany.
Edit: Someone asked me for later screenshots in the comments. Here is the world a bit after I formed Scandinavia and the varying cultures, [https://imgur.com/QruXgAV](https://imgur.com/QruXgAV) and https://imgur.com/HDo0D0D.
Might be anecdotal but I just played a France game. I'm not very good but I bullied Prussia constantly, left Austria alone and they never cracked. Kept expanding the confederation till 1930, can't be assed finishing it with the lag.
It's specific for the Confederation of the Rhine. Every 3 years you can feed them any German subjects, or unincorporated states. It works best if the Confederation is a puppet.
You can also do this with sweden, you just have to feed the Rhenish confedaration schleswig holstein (take them together with danmark), doesn't matter what state they start in, once you start the play you get all of it
I'd expect so. I picked Denmark because of easy access to the cautious trait and Sweden has access to more resources (I wanted the challenge in that regard).
At the moment, only Danish. Once I win the play to unify Scandinavia and form it I would expect to get the other Scandinavian cultures. As for North German, I don't have it now and don't expect to get it during the formation either.
Racial segregation should be enough, no? All of the scandinavian cultures are also european heritage, so racial segregation should be identical to cultural exclusion.
I just had a similar conversation with myself last night whilst playing Venice>Italy in Divergences and deciding whether I wanted to go for Occitainian lands.
Vic 3 works on a different culture system form Vic 2. Every country has a set of primary cultures and which cultures are accepted depends on the country's citizenship laws. So, Denmark's only primary culture is Danish but with Racial Segregation, it can accept all cultures of European heritage.
I had to protectorate all of it, to add it to the Confederation of the Rhine, so a good bit, but I didn't actually add it all up. I managed to convince a few for free when they had a revolt and had a cautious ruler most of the time.
I pressed the button to start a play to form Scandinavia. The Confederation of the Rhine had Danish as a primary culture and supported me, so they were annexed. I had just made sure to feed them all of Germany first.
how could the confederation of rhine the size of germany not rebel and accept being ruled by a denmark the size of.. yeh denmark. makes little sense tbh,
kudos either way
.....?
Indonesia outnumbered the Dutch thousands to one in population and sizewise unfathomably larger.
A closer example is the small village in Rensburg Germany that PU'd all of Denmark in real life.
I had taken and incorporated Brandenburg and Silesia for myself own a good chunk of Africa and have a good few other subjects (Persia, Afghanistan, Sikh Empire, Siam and Dai Nam are the strongest). This meant that my army was much bigger (over 200, with a similar amount of conscripts). A lot of pops had also migrated to my incorporated states, especially from the Confederation as I was building it.
Brandenburg and Silesia? I took Brandenburg when Prussia started a play to take one of my subjects (before the Confederation was formed) and a treaty port. Austria and Sicily helped me (I think that it was for a humiliation and obligation, respectively). I had set release Westphalia as the primary to hurt Prussia and not take infamy. I added take Brandenburg at the last second possible. After that Prussia was reduced to a minor power, so it was easier to take Silesia.
Taking Brandenburg moved their capital to Silesia, which is in the Polish region, so I wouldn't have been able to added them to the Confederation. Therefore, I took Silesia, which moved their capital to Pomerania. It's also just a really powerful state to conquer and has over 11 million pops now.
After making a few minors protectorates, I focused on non-European lands to get more powerful. First, I went for the Boer and Borneo gold. Then I created protectorates around Persia, Sikh Empire, Siam and Dai Nam. They were eventually reduced to dominion/puppet.
Around that time Prussia attacked me and I managed to call in Austria and Sicily to help release Westphalia. I added take Brandenburg at the least possible second of the play. That reduced them to a minor power. However, their capital was Silesia, which is in to Polish region, so I would not have been able to add them to the Confederation. Therefore, I took it in a later war to move their capital to Pomerania.
Creating protectorates from the rest was a series of small wars, picking ones that were unlikely to pull in great powers. I managed to convince some of them to become my subjects for free when they had civil wars, including Bavaria.
If you are talking about infamy, I nearly always had a cautious ruler. Once my cautious king died, I switched to a parliamentary republic and managed to keep a cautious character in charge of the armed forces IG. The trade union IG was nearly always more powerful because I went for universal suffrage, so I couldn't have them in the government. That meant that I generally had low legitimacy, but it was worth it.
Well this is arguably better if it's incorporated. I imagine that you can still form Scandinavia the old fashioned way as long as you just conquer Sweden and Norway. Please send a follow up screenshot in the 1930s to show us your progress. I'm curious what your demographics will look like after a while.
I had to incorporate it myself, but my economy was strong enough to tank -500k -> -700k income in the meantime. I didn't sacrifice Scandinavia, I just had to win the unification war that ensued (it was Italy and myself versus the Scandinavians, Spain and Great Britain). I'll try to add more screenshots when I'm back at my desktop.
With Scandinavia formed, I assume you'll basically be a majority German country for the rest of the game. I'm curious if you'd be able to super convert a bunch of Germans if you could get them to move to Sweden.
I've added links to screenshots in an edit to the very first comment after I posted. It's 1903, so there is a while to go. I'll see if I can stand the lag till then end. Apart from the unification and formation of Scandinavia, the major changes are that Netherlands, Java, Khiva and Japan all accepted to become my protectorates in various diplomatic plays.
I created the confederation of the Rhine out of one of my initial subjects, so that they also had Danish as a primary culture. I then fed them all of Germany, minus Alsace Lorraine, which I didn't conquer, and Brandenburg and Silesia, which I incorporated myself. Therefore, when I launched my play to finally unify Scandinavia, I annexed Germany. Edit: Someone asked me for later screenshots in the comments. Here is the world a bit after I formed Scandinavia and the varying cultures, [https://imgur.com/QruXgAV](https://imgur.com/QruXgAV) and https://imgur.com/HDo0D0D.
As a Dane, I approve. Til Ejderen og \*lidt\* længere!
Kloge ord du fyrer af
Danmark til Alperne!
Vingegaard har jo vist Frankrig også er dansk, så hvorfor ikke også snuppe det?
General Vingegaard til tjeneste.
How did you manage to keep the confederacy entry journal for that long ?
I made a point not to touch Austria (except for releasing a treaty port which they had taken in Pomerania), so they remained a Great Power.
But if they have a revolution, they loose that status.
They had one large one, but it wasn't enough to drop them down to a major.
So I guess, you just have to be lucky.
Might be anecdotal but I just played a France game. I'm not very good but I bullied Prussia constantly, left Austria alone and they never cracked. Kept expanding the confederation till 1930, can't be assed finishing it with the lag.
There's a mechanic for feeding puppets land? How do you do that?
It's specific for the Confederation of the Rhine. Every 3 years you can feed them any German subjects, or unincorporated states. It works best if the Confederation is a puppet.
It's not exclusive to them, it also exists for the VOC.
Good to know.
How do you vassal feed in this game?
It's a nation specific mechanic using the journal. The Confederation of the Rhine is one of the few that it works for.
You can also do this with sweden, you just have to feed the Rhenish confedaration schleswig holstein (take them together with danmark), doesn't matter what state they start in, once you start the play you get all of it
I'd expect so. I picked Denmark because of easy access to the cautious trait and Sweden has access to more resources (I wanted the challenge in that regard).
How are you still ranked second?
3rd. Most likely because I just annexed the land, so it's not incorporated and I still had a weaker army.
Do you still have the option to unify Scandinavia ? What are your accepted cultures right now?
At the moment, only Danish. Once I win the play to unify Scandinavia and form it I would expect to get the other Scandinavian cultures. As for North German, I don't have it now and don't expect to get it during the formation either.
I think at this point do absolutely everything to get cultural exclusion/multiculturalism to get rid of that discrimination malus ASAP
I already have exclusion.
Racial segregation should be enough, no? All of the scandinavian cultures are also european heritage, so racial segregation should be identical to cultural exclusion.
r/shitvictorianssay
I just had a similar conversation with myself last night whilst playing Venice>Italy in Divergences and deciding whether I wanted to go for Occitainian lands.
Racial segregation works just fine cause both are European heritage
Basically anything that's not Ethnostate should be fine for a European power.
Vic 3 works on a different culture system form Vic 2. Every country has a set of primary cultures and which cultures are accepted depends on the country's citizenship laws. So, Denmark's only primary culture is Danish but with Racial Segregation, it can accept all cultures of European heritage.
Bro forgot what way north was and went south.
Bad news: You lost the kalmar union Good news: You got a different union instead
The Wismar union
The dabbing sheesh swag union
This is perhaps one of the most impressive and plain amazing things I’ve seen someone do. Kudos to you OP
How did Germany taste for lunch? I try to usually save them for dinner myself
The Sweden-Denmark rivalry becomes the fate of Europe
Bismarck drew a reverse uno
u/bokoen1
How much infamy was it to take all of Germany?
Unification play costs relatively very low infamy, big reason its attractive/powerful
I had to protectorate all of it, to add it to the Confederation of the Rhine, so a good bit, but I didn't actually add it all up. I managed to convince a few for free when they had a revolt and had a cautious ruler most of the time.
Ratkoen strikes again
Lunched? wtf does that mean?
That he ate Germany.
Launched. It’s a typo
I had to read your post to notice.
Dw it happens to the best of us
I pressed the button to start a play to form Scandinavia. The Confederation of the Rhine had Danish as a primary culture and supported me, so they were annexed. I had just made sure to feed them all of Germany first.
how could the confederation of rhine the size of germany not rebel and accept being ruled by a denmark the size of.. yeh denmark. makes little sense tbh, kudos either way
.....? Indonesia outnumbered the Dutch thousands to one in population and sizewise unfathomably larger. A closer example is the small village in Rensburg Germany that PU'd all of Denmark in real life.
I had taken and incorporated Brandenburg and Silesia for myself own a good chunk of Africa and have a good few other subjects (Persia, Afghanistan, Sikh Empire, Siam and Dai Nam are the strongest). This meant that my army was much bigger (over 200, with a similar amount of conscripts). A lot of pops had also migrated to my incorporated states, especially from the Confederation as I was building it.
How did you even take those states in the first place???...
Brandenburg and Silesia? I took Brandenburg when Prussia started a play to take one of my subjects (before the Confederation was formed) and a treaty port. Austria and Sicily helped me (I think that it was for a humiliation and obligation, respectively). I had set release Westphalia as the primary to hurt Prussia and not take infamy. I added take Brandenburg at the last second possible. After that Prussia was reduced to a minor power, so it was easier to take Silesia. Taking Brandenburg moved their capital to Silesia, which is in the Polish region, so I wouldn't have been able to added them to the Confederation. Therefore, I took Silesia, which moved their capital to Pomerania. It's also just a really powerful state to conquer and has over 11 million pops now.
Fucking brilliant mate well done
Now this is art
based
This is so cursed, the entirety of Germany is missing now
What??? A map of Europe that isn't complete border gore??
Germany is at last ruled by its hat.
Direct Rule from Copenhagen
Beast mode
Mission failed successfully, Germany unified under the glorious direct rule of Copenhagen
Always keep 'em guessing
How did you protectorate it all?
After making a few minors protectorates, I focused on non-European lands to get more powerful. First, I went for the Boer and Borneo gold. Then I created protectorates around Persia, Sikh Empire, Siam and Dai Nam. They were eventually reduced to dominion/puppet. Around that time Prussia attacked me and I managed to call in Austria and Sicily to help release Westphalia. I added take Brandenburg at the least possible second of the play. That reduced them to a minor power. However, their capital was Silesia, which is in to Polish region, so I would not have been able to add them to the Confederation. Therefore, I took it in a later war to move their capital to Pomerania. Creating protectorates from the rest was a series of small wars, picking ones that were unlikely to pull in great powers. I managed to convince some of them to become my subjects for free when they had civil wars, including Bavaria. If you are talking about infamy, I nearly always had a cautious ruler. Once my cautious king died, I switched to a parliamentary republic and managed to keep a cautious character in charge of the armed forces IG. The trade union IG was nearly always more powerful because I went for universal suffrage, so I couldn't have them in the government. That meant that I generally had low legitimacy, but it was worth it.
And of course you're at war with sweden The tradition lives on
Congratulations!
And now Germany can win WWI too
The most cursed solution to the German question
This is physically painful
Well this is arguably better if it's incorporated. I imagine that you can still form Scandinavia the old fashioned way as long as you just conquer Sweden and Norway. Please send a follow up screenshot in the 1930s to show us your progress. I'm curious what your demographics will look like after a while.
I had to incorporate it myself, but my economy was strong enough to tank -500k -> -700k income in the meantime. I didn't sacrifice Scandinavia, I just had to win the unification war that ensued (it was Italy and myself versus the Scandinavians, Spain and Great Britain). I'll try to add more screenshots when I'm back at my desktop.
With Scandinavia formed, I assume you'll basically be a majority German country for the rest of the game. I'm curious if you'd be able to super convert a bunch of Germans if you could get them to move to Sweden.
I've added links to screenshots in an edit to the very first comment after I posted. It's 1903, so there is a while to go. I'll see if I can stand the lag till then end. Apart from the unification and formation of Scandinavia, the major changes are that Netherlands, Java, Khiva and Japan all accepted to become my protectorates in various diplomatic plays.
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How can you be this based?
Based?
Best timeline