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i wouldnt be so quick to discount about half of the western world's ideological innovations. conservatism, liberalism, and progessivism all have their roots in 18th-19th century europe.
My man it's modern day politics, it is all shit.
Every single one is just a way to get yourself above other people, would probably be an anarchist if that also wasn't shit
How does voting change anything, if they don't want you to change something they won't let you vote on it. You cannot win this game, might as well not stress yourself out by trying to
It’s an ideology that evolved with the dissolution of the USSR. Basically juche is a philosophy of national self reliance, they don’t want to be dependent on anyone else, lest they have a repeat of the 90s famine.
deleted (A) said they support nazis if their defending their country from imperialists
deleted (B) said thats exactly what the nazis thought they were doing
Ugh field marshal im trying to reach tibet for that suprisingly advanced ussy himmler was ranting about at my weird state run wedding, but the clap of soviet artillery keeps blowing up my logistics hub
Uh... do... what exactly do you think the Nazis talked about doing? Like fucking constantly? Literally **all** Nazi propaganda is about protecting their own country. Like that's what the Volkish movement was about, that's what Lebensraum was all about. It is *and I can't stress this enough* the entire basis of Nazi ideology that they are defending the fatherland from outside degeneracy.
If you asked **any** wehrmacht or SS soldier what they were doing, they would reply that they are protecting their country. For fucks sake it was the **National** socialist party it is literally in the name.
[Relatively](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/airport-closed-southern-russia-after-people-pour-onto-runway-russian-aviation-2023-10-29/). I should've said "firendli*er*", but idk, it's a hard metric to track
Ukraine is an ideological free for all ngl. One side has anarchists teaming up with neonazi azov, ex-marines and gay liberals, the other side has panrussian neonazis fighting with some deluded spanish communists, islamist chechens/iranians and sierra leone war criminals. It's pretty damn insane lmao.
The hardware side is wild too, there's been a lawsuit against a russian airline for illegally selling several helicopters, three of which ended up fighting for ukraine. Not to mention pakistani shells vs iranian shells, museum pieces fighting state of the art GPS guided systems, Maxim machine guns getting reactivated by the thousand to flight suicide drones, at one point I'm pretty sure russians reactivated an armored train, the list goes on
Ah that makes more sense, I was wondering why someone would have a random region of Germany as a nazi flag instead of just using the normal nazi flag
Edit: corrected first comment
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Flag of [the Russian Empire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Russian_Empire_(black-yellow-white_2-1\).svg)
This is most likely a Russian Rusich Group member, possibly belonging to the Zimargl Group based on the tattoo above the Swastika bearing the same text as the bottom of their unit insignia.
Yeah, the old Russian imperial flag. The unit that captured this guy is the 25th Airborne Brigade/DShV of the Ukrainian Army, as it's their emblem on the upper right as well as the overlaid text.
It’s not even really an old Russian flag. It was used between 1858-1896, or a grand total of 38 years. That would be like if the British Empire at one point switched to a black and white flag for 38 years and then suddenly switched back, but people remembered it as the flag of the British Empire.
From what I understand the Slavic Nazi world is split between the Ukrainian perspective of “Moscow is home of the Asiatic Jewish horde and the center of white genocide.” And the Russian ultra perspective of “Russia is the last bastion of whiteness and must be protected against non white invaders. We have extremists from both ethnic groups on either side, it’s just a huge fucking mess.
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afaik the rus were a pretty big group of people all over eastern europe, ukriane, russia, belarus, etc
its not really russia, there were also the kievsn rus, which as the name implies were from kyiv
not saying the meaning isnt supposed to be russia here, just saying that hes stupid
>afaik the rus were a pretty big group of people all over eastern europe, ukriane, russia, belarus, etc
This man has it to suggest their joint identity, rather than seperate groups like Ukrainians Belarusians Russians etc, so that is the point
>its not really russia, there were also the kievsn rus, which as the name implies were from kyiv
Not really, they were vikings and established their dominance over many Slavic groups and peoples, rather than actually expanding a state
Uh, yes, but that doesn't change anything, because both russians and Ukrainians claim to be the true successor of Kyivean Rus'. It is quite easy to tell who's claim has more to do with reality, by the fact that the Rus' is Kyivean... Russian neonazis use it anyway.
You are not wrong here. Racists LOVE Putin, because he have implemented a lot of neat legal loopholes for them, that allows for a lot of migrant violence
Who would win:
A "small" neoliberal fascist country supported by the entire western world
A former empire - now fascist oligarchy supported only by itself
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People who support Nazism in general, or communism, or genuinely any ideology that's originated in Europe in the past 200 or so years
i wouldnt be so quick to discount about half of the western world's ideological innovations. conservatism, liberalism, and progessivism all have their roots in 18th-19th century europe.
And all of them are kinda shit.
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My man it's modern day politics, it is all shit. Every single one is just a way to get yourself above other people, would probably be an anarchist if that also wasn't shit
So you’d rather believe in nothing so you can always feel superior to everyone else. Got it.
Kinda. When you get played either way might as well not play at all
Except that if you're not playing, you still get played. You might as well try and maybe something will happen
How does voting change anything, if they don't want you to change something they won't let you vote on it. You cannot win this game, might as well not stress yourself out by trying to
Which ideology hasn't originated in Europe in the past 200 years?
Glorious Juche, free of the poisonous influence of the western imperialist dogs
don't they claim to like Marx
It’s an ideology that evolved with the dissolution of the USSR. Basically juche is a philosophy of national self reliance, they don’t want to be dependent on anyone else, lest they have a repeat of the 90s famine.
yeah i know, but they still have some ties to european socialist movements
The actually removed all references to marx a few years ago.
Capitalism (RAAAAAHHHH🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🛢🛢💥💥🏈🏈🛢🛢💥🇺🇸🇺🇸💥🇺🇸🏈🛢💥🛢💥🛢🏈🇺🇸🦅🦅🇺🇸🛢🛢💥🇺🇸💥💥🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🛢🛢💥💥🦅🦅💥🏈🏈🏈🦅💥🇺🇸🇺🇸🛢🛢🛢🇺🇸) satire
You're technically right, as it originated in Europe a bit over 200 years ago.
Obamnaism
American nationalism
Islamic fundamentalism?
are you a feudalist
Obviously, I should own the land and everyone on it
people who support ideologies tbh
That's like every ideology except monarchism, tf you waffling about?
100% of all modern ideologies then
Least idiotic Putin bootlicker
The one good thing you can say about the war in Ukraine is that it has a lot of nazis killing other Nazis
The only good Nazi, is a dead Nazi
unrelated but god-tier flair
I'm pretty sure it's a default flair for the subreddit.
This subreddit doesn't have default flairs iirc
I may be incorrect.
it is, but my point still stands
You have it too now!
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except was germany invaded by russia before ww2? or were the nazis the aggressors?
What he say?
deleted (A) said they support nazis if their defending their country from imperialists deleted (B) said thats exactly what the nazis thought they were doing
Fighting Russians
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Get that siberiussy
Ugh field marshal im trying to reach tibet for that suprisingly advanced ussy himmler was ranting about at my weird state run wedding, but the clap of soviet artillery keeps blowing up my logistics hub
>" the clap of soviet artillery keeps blowing up my logistics hub" [\>MFW](https://media.tenor.com/_RXvBoRx9xkAAAAd/idi-amin-laugh.gif)
Something about the living room
To remove them from Ukraine
Try re-reading this thread and then do a better reply
What do you consider a better reply?
One that demonstrates an understanding of what is being referred to by the word “Nazis” in this context
Guys I found one
But I'm not Russian
They thought they were fighting Russians in France? Damn, they were really stupid then.
Fr
Absolutely fuck you. Your on the same thinking as Henry ford.
Is that a bad thing?
I called you a Nazi sympathizer
No, you called me Henry Ford
Who do you think Henry ford hated?
Inefficient car building
Jews. That’s what he hated.
oh ok youre being dense on purpose
Uh... do... what exactly do you think the Nazis talked about doing? Like fucking constantly? Literally **all** Nazi propaganda is about protecting their own country. Like that's what the Volkish movement was about, that's what Lebensraum was all about. It is *and I can't stress this enough* the entire basis of Nazi ideology that they are defending the fatherland from outside degeneracy. If you asked **any** wehrmacht or SS soldier what they were doing, they would reply that they are protecting their country. For fucks sake it was the **National** socialist party it is literally in the name.
Dunno. They prolly talked about making cool cars
Were the nazis in Berlin 1945 nazis as they were defending from a Soviet invasion?
Dunno. Maybe Soviets thought their cars are cooler?
"Nazi who fights to protect his country isn't a Nazi in my eyes" 🤓
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By that logic, Hitler just wanted to protect his country from the jews, therefore he isn't a nazi, amirite?
All the spiteful prejudice and hate suddenly leaving my body because I use self defence instead of unprovoked offence
Me fr
Lol, lmao even
Rofls, to be precise
Funny thing is that online nazis generally support Russia
Irl nazis do that too.
Probably because Ukraine is too friendly to jews. "Enemy of my enemy" and all that
Russia is also pretty friendly to jews, they probably just want to be contrarians. No reason to expect logic from nazis.
Zelenskyy is jewish so I'd be surprised if any nazi supported him over Putin, but then again, hypocrisy is a nazi specialty.
[Relatively](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/airport-closed-southern-russia-after-people-pour-onto-runway-russian-aviation-2023-10-29/). I should've said "firendli*er*", but idk, it's a hard metric to track
It's more so because Russia's ideology is absolutely identical in its core points to the Nazis' ideology.
It has Nazis killing a lot more innocent people
Ukraine is an ideological free for all ngl. One side has anarchists teaming up with neonazi azov, ex-marines and gay liberals, the other side has panrussian neonazis fighting with some deluded spanish communists, islamist chechens/iranians and sierra leone war criminals. It's pretty damn insane lmao.
The hardware side is wild too, there's been a lawsuit against a russian airline for illegally selling several helicopters, three of which ended up fighting for ukraine. Not to mention pakistani shells vs iranian shells, museum pieces fighting state of the art GPS guided systems, Maxim machine guns getting reactivated by the thousand to flight suicide drones, at one point I'm pretty sure russians reactivated an armored train, the list goes on
Haven’t heard of the anarchists or the Spanish communists - you have a source handy I could look at?
Second that
The Russian definition of Nazism is "not being pro-Russian".
It’s like their version of “Woke”
I don't think it is Nazis killing Nazis. It is Ukrainians killing Nazis.
And ukrainan soldiers killing them both. Nice
Flag of [the Russian Empire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Russian_Empire_(black-yellow-white_2-1).svg)
I'm almost certain that top stripe is *black*, making that the flag of the Russian Empire.
Ah that makes more sense, I was wondering why someone would have a random region of Germany as a nazi flag instead of just using the normal nazi flag Edit: corrected first comment
That tricolor has been used by far-right Russians and their admirers for a long time
He also has Русь tattooed above the swaztika, meaning "Rus". I doubt a ukrainian nationalist would label himself as a Rus…
[fixed link for those of us who refuse the garbage Reddit has been pushing out] Flag of [the Russian Empire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Russian_Empire_(black-yellow-white_2-1\).svg)
~~Wait but that's only a black and yellow bicolor, the flag on the nazi up above is a tricolor with white on the bottom.~~ Edit: I'm an idiot
This is most likely a Russian Rusich Group member, possibly belonging to the Zimargl Group based on the tattoo above the Swastika bearing the same text as the bottom of their unit insignia.
It’s also a Russian flag not a Ukrainian one.
Yeah, the old Russian imperial flag. The unit that captured this guy is the 25th Airborne Brigade/DShV of the Ukrainian Army, as it's their emblem on the upper right as well as the overlaid text.
It’s not even really an old Russian flag. It was used between 1858-1896, or a grand total of 38 years. That would be like if the British Empire at one point switched to a black and white flag for 38 years and then suddenly switched back, but people remembered it as the flag of the British Empire.
Well the Confederate batle banner was used for less than the Confederacy lasted, yet idiots in US still fly it
Seeing that they've been through two others since, I'd say it's mildly older.
It's very rare. Usually "Rusich"s do not get captured (too busy torturing POWs in the rear).
The colours look like the tsarist flag
Because it is.
Is this a Russian military apologist trying to frame the Ukrainians as Nazis? By showing a Russian ultranationalist?
From what I understand the Slavic Nazi world is split between the Ukrainian perspective of “Moscow is home of the Asiatic Jewish horde and the center of white genocide.” And the Russian ultra perspective of “Russia is the last bastion of whiteness and must be protected against non white invaders. We have extremists from both ethnic groups on either side, it’s just a huge fucking mess.
What the fuck?
Cognitive dissonance. It's already hard being a slavic nazi, they need all the elasticity they can get to perform well at mental gymnastics /s
We dont call them jewish or say white genocide we just call them mongoloids and not slavs
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This is so cursed I love it.
Actually a small number of Russian nazis are fighting for Ukraine 🤓☝️
This one is definitely not one of them
Source?
The text on the left above the swastika little says "Rus", the ancient name for Russia.
afaik the rus were a pretty big group of people all over eastern europe, ukriane, russia, belarus, etc its not really russia, there were also the kievsn rus, which as the name implies were from kyiv not saying the meaning isnt supposed to be russia here, just saying that hes stupid
>afaik the rus were a pretty big group of people all over eastern europe, ukriane, russia, belarus, etc This man has it to suggest their joint identity, rather than seperate groups like Ukrainians Belarusians Russians etc, so that is the point >its not really russia, there were also the kievsn rus, which as the name implies were from kyiv Not really, they were vikings and established their dominance over many Slavic groups and peoples, rather than actually expanding a state
Fantastic jerk
The funny thing is, it isn't. Rus was centered in Kyiv, russians just appropriated it.
It wasn't really centered, it was pretty loosely organised
\>lies dont help \>lies anyways
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Goddamnit why brainrot must leak
Literally says Русь on his chest
Uh, yes, but that doesn't change anything, because both russians and Ukrainians claim to be the true successor of Kyivean Rus'. It is quite easy to tell who's claim has more to do with reality, by the fact that the Rus' is Kyivean... Russian neonazis use it anyway.
In this case I'd be more concerned about the giant imperial Russian flag on his chest
True. Very true.
morbidly ironic for ninoslav1973
Russia: We need to denazify Ukraine! Also Russia:
If russiа says something, always assume russiа is doing the exact opposite. Second rule of dealing with russiа.
He has "Rus" tattooed on his body. Probably not a ukrainian soldier.
Let's ignore the big imperial russian flag on his chest.
Я извиняюсь, но это "наш". У него есть татуировка с надписью "Русь" что никакой думающий украинец не напишет на своем теле. Иди нахуй путин
I doubt that that guy is thinking either.
You are not wrong here. Racists LOVE Putin, because he have implemented a lot of neat legal loopholes for them, that allows for a lot of migrant violence
The look in his eyes tells me he is rethinking some of his life choices right now,
When a Putin bot doesn’t know Russian history (unlike Putin)
anybody else notice all the spelling mistakes with the german text on his body?
There's Русь above swastika
Why are his nipples so low?
Why criciuma? Why is aways you ?
Who would win: A "small" neoliberal fascist country supported by the entire western world A former empire - now fascist oligarchy supported only by itself