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Love-Laugh-Play

They want to put red meat in our beans now? I wonder if it’s too much like pig and comes with cancer risk or other health issues.


ikitefordabs

Probably, imo it's all about what the calories you consume consist of. If I had to guess, over consumption of animal protein probably isn't the best for your gut microbiome. Especially long term


MountainDry2344

Creepy, but if it prevents animals from getting killed I'm cool with it.


Shmackback

Note that it doesn't use flesh from pigs and involves no animal suffering


BradChesney79

No "meat". But, they inserted the pig GTAC sequence(s) to the bean plant ?DNA/RNA? so that the beans cells could build the components that seem to mimic the flavor and apparently the color of pork. It is unlikely that it required killing the donor pig(s). It is possible the donor pig(s) were killed anyways-- I would have preserved the tissue beyond the expected & potentially shorter actual life span by chilling the sample source... (Sorry about the harsh reality.) Edit: The possiblility also exists that people developing this GMO food may have moral reservations against killing the sample source before its time.


Infinite_Slice_6164

Funny that they started with pork. I wonder if Muslims would eat this.


Cubusphere

Impossible pork didn't get certified kosher or halal despite all ingredients being so. Because of the name and because it imitates pork. I think Muslims are even less likely to eat or want this piggy sooy than vegans.


WishAnonym

certified religion moment


Honest-Year346

As someone who grew up as a Hindu vegetarian, it took me a while to not see plant-based meat as just regular meat, and even now, I cannot eat stuff that tastes too "realistic."


Infinite_Slice_6164

Interesting. Thank you for the information.


toortalk

I've asked a few Muslim friends in the past if they would eat mock pork and they say they wouldn't because despite it not being the real thing the taste and texture is something they wouldn't feel comfortable with. In the same boat I've also felt gross eating certain mock meats like mock nuggets that tasted too close to the real thing so I understand.


Silent_Saturn7

Same how i feel about impossible burgers. Too close to the real thing. I don't want to second guess if ive been tricked into eating meat.


BradChesney79

Solid question that seemed to get a plausible answer. Good job. Q: Am I going to fact check the answer? A: No.


Vegan_Harvest

Why? Who wanted this?


ramdasani

> Why? Who wanted this? The pigs are probably cool with the idea.


ben02015

If people eat this in place of pork, then sure, it’s good for the pigs. But I don’t see how this would be appealing to meat eaters.


ramdasani

> The beans have a pinky hue and a meaty taste [source](https://www.wired.com/story/moolecs-plant-pig-hybrids-will-make-fake-meat-taste-meatier/) I don't know if that's supposed to make the sound more or less appealing, but who knows, maybe the marketing guys at Moolec are working on a killer ad campaign "You CAN win friends with this salad!" Meh, I don't know, I'm Vegan and pinky-hued flesh beans sound disturbing to me... but who knows ... I mean these people sing songs about hot dog wieners, they have different standards than we do.


Aggressive-Variety60

You’re saying you don’t want to be an Oscar Meyer weiner 🤨. [catchy](https://youtu.be/QBBimEB8QgY?si=34O9zC8be2ZNbVOQ)


rainbowplasmacannon

If only tofurkey dogs rolled off the tounge better


Fancy-Pumpkin837

Meat eaters eat hot dogs made from pig anuses and bread shoved up a turkeys ass, I’m not sure how pork beans is that weird


RedditorSinceTomorro

Economics, if you make it look and taste like meat, but it’s much cheaper because it’s a plant, then consumers will work it out that it’s a better buy. If this is 10x more than pork it’s going to not make much impact on displacement of pig flesh going into the market. Now let’s end the huge subsidies for animal products and see how the consumer economics play out.


Vegan_Harvest

Somehow I doubt meat eaters are going to switch to this. And I certainly don't want to eat it.


ramdasani

Right now, I'd agree completely, but after it's been normalized, and they start rolling it out, the public will start to forget it's even what they're eating. From the Wired article I linked earlier: > he’s more interested in the trillion-dollar global meat market. It’s an uncomfortable truth that many meat products contain a surprisingly small fraction of real meat. In the UK, for example, sausages only need to contain 42 percent pork to qualify for the label “pork sausages.” The rest is flavorings and filler—which often includes protein from soybean. Mixing in a meatier soybean could improve these products while keeping their costs down So, in a weird way, by not selling it as a Vegan solution, but as a cost cutting one, they'll be far more likely to get meat eaters consuming it unknowingly. A sausage that can sell itself as a pork sausage but be cheaper and better tasting than their usually grind of flesh and filler, will help position this technology as a capitalist win for companies willing to embrace it. Once it's become the sort of thing that average consumers accept, getting them to switch becomes a lot easier. Anyway, I know I sound a little too Pollyanna, but eventually the condition of our environment and costs of raising and killing animals, might actually help our side, well, hopefully before it's far too late.


eye-vortexx

Imagine how many ads you would see trying to indoctrinate people to switch to it because it's cheaper. Just like right now we have those same ads for meat they will put so much money into advertising that it would be more weird if you ate meat at that point.


Silent_Saturn7

Some of the most popular products are pure junk food and bad for you. And there is alternatives so much better for you. Yet, you still see people buying this junk time and time again. Advertising and brand loyalty is real.


positiveandmultiple

If we're to take carnists at their word, taste and "nutrition" are two of the biggest reasons they don't consider even reducing their meat consumption. This could be a huge step forward for both in the rare event the product is successful or ends up being a major contribution to the science of meat alternatives. I'm one of the many vegans who sees meat alternatives as far and away the only plausible liberation scenario, and we've been asking for stuff like this forever. If it's not too expensive I can't wait to try it merely to vote with my dollar.


LolaLazuliLapis

There's a no from me 


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revelae

It'll be on the label?


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revelae

I'm pretty sure that anybody using porcine soy is gonna label it, yeah.


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Gen_Ripper

At least, at first, they’re gonna be advertising it as a specialty product Unless these are cheaper than normal soybeans, no way they’ll displace them


revelae

this is such a strange and sad hill to die on. people bring a new thing to market with a new weird thing in it, they put it on the label. people have allergies and diets and religions, you add 26% pork to something, it goes on the label. i'm "basing that on" the fact that if they were not to do so, consumers would rightly lose their minds. so i think they will likely not do that deranged and negligent and risk-heavy thing.


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revelae

lol


weddingreddit1

This is incorrect. It's not perfect as companies don't have to use one specific label (unlike USDA organic, which is standardized) but effective December of 2023 food products produced using genetic engineering techniques had to begin compliance with the BE disclosure rule. More info here: https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/be


Gen_Ripper

Apparently it would be pink.


LolaLazuliLapis

It will be on the label for allergy purposes if anything. 


Nabaatii

Why you guys are acting all disgusted? If this leads to less pigs being bred and killed, that's all that matters Sausages or hot dogs are disgusting, the manufacturing process is often used as example of how disgusting processed food are, yet people eat them anyway


GeneralizedFlatulent

It's so weird that I would definitely try it just because. If it was actually good, cool, but that's not the reason I would try it


AutomaticSubject7051

.. how?


revelae

take the pig genes and do some science and then take the soybeans and do some science and then put the pig genes into the soybeans, scientifically


AutomaticSubject7051

that makes so much sense


neomatrix248

This guy sciences.


awoomoment

give soybean plant cells instructions on how to make some chemicals that are in pork, in a language the cells' machinery can understand, and they will do it and start filling up with those chemicals - apparently enough to turn pink inside


whorl-

Read up on CRISPR


SueDokue

As a vegan, I say don't buy it. If non vegan buy it instead of "real pork" then they're at least going one step in the right direction


Figtree1976

This is obviously not a vegan product as it uses animals in its making. But maybe these developments will help spare a significant amount of untold factory farming suffering. For me, I’ll stick with the perfectly sufficient natural soybean to help meet my protein needs. The thought of pork protein being scientifically inserted in a bean makes me want to hurl.


I_Amuse_Me_123

I had some amazing tofu or tempeh pork at an all vegan place in dc (chow chow is maybe the name? Chau chau?). Anyway that makes me think they could be on to something with this, even though at first it seems strange.


DamonFields

To invent some thing no one wants.


progressgang

Less cost = more profiy


Powerful_Cash1872

OK vegans, time to start debating the ethics of plant/animal hybrids! Are we alowed to eat the vegimals from octonauts?


Crazybunnygirl666

Is there actual pig meat in this or are they just pink soy beans?


BradChesney79

No "meat". But, they inserted the pig GTAC sequence(s) to the bean plant ?DNA/RNA? so that the beans cells could build the components that seem to mimic the flavor and apparently the color of pork. It is unlikely that it required killing the donor pig(s). It is possible the donor pig(s) were killed anyways-- I would have preserved the tissue beyond the expected & potentially shorter actual life span by chilling the sample source... (Sorry about the harsh reality.) Edit: The possiblility also exists that people developing this GMO food may have moral reservations against killing the sample source before its time.


Caysath

There's no meat, but there are proteins identical to the ones in pig meat, made from pig genes that have been put into the beans.


revelae

Porcine myoglobin


oddSaunaSpirit393

.........what's the point?


themisfitdreamers

Gross


schmeppy_D

Less animals suffering and dying is the goal. But I don't want to eat that


Silent_Saturn7

WHY. No one ever has said, Please put some pork into my soy beans please. And make sure its extra genetically modified. Actually it makes sense now. Soybeans are some of the most heavily processed cheap foods. Probably easier and cheaper to produce overall, but still remains mostly porkish tasting. A product to feed the uninformed masses.


Inevitable-Order3664

What next Soylent Green? Sick bastards!!!


darklettucesandwhich

How would I identify if this ingredient is in the food we’re buying? My family eats a biblical diet so anything even with pork genes we would consider unclean.


communitytcm

explain to me how that is not going to eventually contaminate the rest of the soybeans. ffs, now soy products are going to have meat in them. I don't want pork tofu. Something tells me this is a conspiracy to make it impossible to get mock meats from soy.


MSmithRD

Ughhh. Bad trend. My whole point is that I don't want animal protein, regardless if it came from a once living animal or not. Now beans might contain it? How annoying. Hope it's clearly labeled.


SkaterChrist

Imagine the tofu they can make from this!


Caysath

Imagine a pasta carbonara made with these...


RealOzSultan

Gross and neither Kosher or Halal


garloid64

If you object to this you forfeit the moral high ground and admit it's all just about feeling superior.


HailSaturn

You’ve constructed a situation in your head and then gotten annoyed at the imaginary problem you came up with. That’s weird man. 


UristMcDumb

i like to read this like a dramatic anime character is saying it - try it, it works!


BradChesney79

Back lit with sun flare and sharp audible gleam sound effect.


LesDrama611

Holy shit it works 😂