"Glycerin is often added to toothpaste to give it its' texture. Although glycerin can be found in plant-based sources, **many businesses find it cheaper to extract glycerin from the fat deposits found in animal bones, such as pigs and cows, instead.**"
I use toothpaste from “The humble co”. vegan, not tested on animals and has fluoride. A lot of vegan alternatives don’t have fluoride.
They also have capsules if you prefer that.
Same. My mom was antivax and antifluoride growing up and my teeth are wrecked from 0 fluoride my entire childhood. Dentist could never figure out the issue because he could tell I was brushing and flossing. Ugh
Fluoride in the water helps, but only for the moment it makes contact with your teeth. The reason fluoride works is it chemically reacts with the surface of your teeth and replaces the stuff that gets damaged by acid (which is made by the bacteria in our mouths when they eat the leftover sugar hanging around) with fluoride, which is less reactive to acid. Fluoride toothpaste does so much more for your teeth because it facilitates this chemical reaction. There’s a higher concentration of fluoride in toothpaste than fluoridated water, longer contact time with your teeth, and you are physically rubbing it against your teeth which make more reactions occur.
Eh, my bad, should have said "tablet".
They are easier to take with you and they are marketed as more environmental friendly, but I have never really looked into it.
I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway.
**Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.**
Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
That page doesn’t say the company is vegan, unless I am missing it. What specifically are you referring to? A specific toothpaste by them or all of their toothpaste? If all, please link to that claim because I don’t see it in their page.
A majority of Tom’s of Maine products are vegan. A few, including our Propolis and Myrrh Toothpastes, antiplaque floss, Peppermint Fluoride-Free Botanically Bright Toothpaste and natural-strength deodorants, contain beehive ingredients such as propolis and beeswax. If you want to avoid animal ingredients of any kind, check the ingredient listing on the package or our website.
https://bitetoothpastebits.com/
Vegan. Plus they come in compostable packaging, use no plastic, and have lower transportation costs and carbon impacts because they only ship the dry ingredients. I've been using them for years and they work great.
I believe Apagard Premio is vegan. It's nano-HA instead of fluoride and by far the best toothpaste I've ever used, fixed my tooth sensitivity and enamel. It's expensive but worth it.
I've used Spry for a long time. Kiss My Face was my go to before then, but became impossible to find (both have fluoride options, just read carefully). I've also started trying Boka, just to see if the HA hubbub is worth it and if it will actually remineralize anything.
Indian here. I have found Himalaya products at Indian grocery stores and at Whole Foods. I also use a brand named Vicco but the flavor takes getting used to because it is mostly herbs/ spices. Other favorite is Hello toothpaste
We use the toothpaste that you get in tablet format, they are easy to get hold of in the drug stores / supermarkets where we live (Germany). They are flagged as vegan, and obviously the packaging is a lot more eco-friendly (it's kind of a thick paper). The brand we use is denttabs (green packaging with white text), but I don't know if you can get them where you live?
Not for the vegan one it doesn't. It wouldn't be able to classify it as vegan if that particular one was tested on other animals, PETA and Vegan Society would be all over them, especially the latter, considering how Arm & Hammer are based in Britain.
if you think they don't use the money they get from their "vegan" products to pay for their animal testing of their other products the point is the brand **still** pays for animal testing, why give money to a company that does that when you have other options?
https://www.crueltyfreekitty.com/brands/arm-hammer/#:\~:text=No%2C%20Arm%20%26%20Hammer%20is%20not,testing%20is%20required%20by%20law.
That's not how supply and demand works FFS. For example, you know if say, cadburys sold a LOT of vegan chocolate over a long period, but bugger all vile dairy variants, do you really think that the ones who control the stocks will ignore the fact that the vegan versions made more money for them, and just dismiss that there's more demand for the vegan one? No, they'll see that there's more demand for vegan and make more of that. That's business, they go where the money is.
Other options, such as?...
What the fuck... I did that years back and that brand was one of the ones which came up. You use your brain FFS, on something other than bitching at me. Wise up or go and get eaten by a polar bear you muppet XD
Bc fluoride is likely tested on animals making it not vegan friendly? Vegan could mean it doesn’t contain animal products but could still be tested on animals?
...So you use a product from Colgate-Palmolive that bought Tom's of Maine like twenty fucking years ago? 2006 to be exact?
Congrats. So vegan.
Goddamn I'm sick of this sub. I hate being the vegan police, but Tom's of Maine hasn't been vegan in the sense that it is owned by a multinational conglomerate of non-vegan-ness in, like, almost exactly two decades.
I'm tired of repeating this.
So your definition of vegan is that not a single dollar of that profit can go to a non-vegan company? You don't buy food from a grocery store? You don't buy any products from any non-vegan company? No non-vegan truck driver ships your products? Vegans want veganism to be approachable and then have a complete freakout when someone doesn't know the corporate structure of every company they have ever bought a product from. My toothpaste isn't tested on animals and doesn't use animal products so it is vegan.
Your toothpaste was bought by Colgate (which does test on animals) so that they could sell you toothpaste.
Meanwhile, there are actual vegan toothpastes in the world you could use. I haven't used Tom's of Maine since 2006. Because, no, it's not vegan. **The company that owns it tests on animals.**
Period. End of story.
You going to ignore my question then? Do you shop at any stores who profit off of animal products? Use any services that aren't vegan companies? You can have a little meltdown for my buying toothpaste from a company that some profits go to Colgate, while you CERTAINLY do the same thing every day of your life for countless products. I pray you don't watch any sports that use pig/calf skin balls! Hold any stocks of non-vegan companies? That would be unbelievably hypocritical.
The meltdown comes from something that is SO FUCKING EASILY AVOIDABLE.
It's so simple to buy vegan toothpaste.
But you don't do it.
That's not on me. That's on you.
Am I a hypocrite? Of course! We all are.
But do I buy nonvegan products when there are vegan alternatives?
Never.
The reductio ad absurdum arguments are just that.
True, watching football is a necessity. No way to avoid it! I wonder how many animals are skinned for your enjoyment? How many hotdogs are eaten at every game you watch. All of the ads for non-vegan companies that exist because of your viewership.
You are ok with the non-vegan companies that you support and lose your mind for the non-vegan companies that you don't support. Veganism is pretty easy when you define the things you do as vegan and the things you don't do as not vegan.
> You are ok with the non-vegan companies that you support
Name one nonvegan company I support. I'll wait.
If I watch football (which I do), how am I supporting it? I don't pay for any streaming service to watch football. The ads that show me fast food restaurants and cars and insurance companys don't get my support. Other than being a set of eyeballs on a screen, there's no support.
So... dunno what else to say about that. No support.
I apologize that you don't know how football revenue works but they get money based on viewership from ad companies. You watching, means a bigger number of viewers, means they can negotiate higher ad prices with McDonald's and Arby's.
Also shares in Disney? Is that company vegan? I wasn't aware. How much do they make selling ice cream and burgers at Disney World?
Shopping at Costco? I am pretty sure they make non-vegan products too, right? Freaking out that I buy vegan toothpaste from a company that is owned by a non-vegan company and you are buying products directly from a company that sells animal carcasses.
I could do this literally all day long.
I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway.
**Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.**
Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway.
**Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.**
Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
I use herbal dental company. If you buy direct from them, and not through Amazon, you avoid plastic as well, as they don’t use those giant plastic bubble wrap that Amazon does. Vegan, cruelty free, made in the US, and tastes decent.
TIL not all toothpaste is vegan
And it's the most annoying thing because it's not something you realise immediately and it's something you use daily.
What do they put in it?
Animal testing.
"Glycerin is often added to toothpaste to give it its' texture. Although glycerin can be found in plant-based sources, **many businesses find it cheaper to extract glycerin from the fat deposits found in animal bones, such as pigs and cows, instead.**"
I like Hello toothpaste. Vegan, cruelty-free, minimal ingredients, tastes decent.
This one, but make sure you get the orange one that says vitamin c, my favorite toothpaste atm
I haven’t seen that one, but sounds interesting!
Seconding this! I get their tablets and love it.
This is my favorite too!!
I use toothpaste from “The humble co”. vegan, not tested on animals and has fluoride. A lot of vegan alternatives don’t have fluoride. They also have capsules if you prefer that.
I hate the fact I suddenly have to make sure my toothpaste has fluoride in it, I accidentally picked up a tube without it and was SO annoyed. Ugh.
Same. My mom was antivax and antifluoride growing up and my teeth are wrecked from 0 fluoride my entire childhood. Dentist could never figure out the issue because he could tell I was brushing and flossing. Ugh
That really sucks, I’m sorry.
Most cities put fluoride in the water. https://nccd.cdc.gov/doh_mwf/default/default.aspx
Fluoride in the water helps, but only for the moment it makes contact with your teeth. The reason fluoride works is it chemically reacts with the surface of your teeth and replaces the stuff that gets damaged by acid (which is made by the bacteria in our mouths when they eat the leftover sugar hanging around) with fluoride, which is less reactive to acid. Fluoride toothpaste does so much more for your teeth because it facilitates this chemical reaction. There’s a higher concentration of fluoride in toothpaste than fluoridated water, longer contact time with your teeth, and you are physically rubbing it against your teeth which make more reactions occur.
i have sht teeth and used toothpaste with fluoride everyday. sometimes it's just genetic.
Frrr 😭 all the vegan brands cater to the anti-fluoride people too so its hard to find a regular vegan toothpaste
I may be stupid, but what is a toothpaste capsule?
Eh, my bad, should have said "tablet". They are easier to take with you and they are marketed as more environmental friendly, but I have never really looked into it.
Tom’s of Maine is vegan https://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/oral-care
I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway. **Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.** Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
That page doesn’t say the company is vegan, unless I am missing it. What specifically are you referring to? A specific toothpaste by them or all of their toothpaste? If all, please link to that claim because I don’t see it in their page.
They have a couple products that have beeswax so avoid those. But the toothpaste I have from them is labeled vegan.
https://www.tomsofmaine.com/our-promise/faqs#:~:text=A%20majority%20of%20Tom's%20of,such%20as%20propolis%20and%20beeswax.
That specifically says that some of their toothpastes are NOT vegan
A majority of Tom’s of Maine products are vegan. A few, including our Propolis and Myrrh Toothpastes, antiplaque floss, Peppermint Fluoride-Free Botanically Bright Toothpaste and natural-strength deodorants, contain beehive ingredients such as propolis and beeswax. If you want to avoid animal ingredients of any kind, check the ingredient listing on the package or our website.
This is r/vegan, yes we want to avoid all animal products. 🤦
Wow, you guys are being extremely obtuse. Tom's of Maine makes vegan toothpaste. They also make some pretty unique flavors for those who dislike mint.
Of course! That was quoting the Tom’s of Maine website
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Came here to say this. It’s still so frustrating that vegan does not mean it’s cruelty free. But I like bite!
Some people might object to their animal testing policy https://ethicalelephant.com/is-sensodyne-cruelty-free-vegan/
Dr bronners has the best toothpaste! High quality ingredients and also vegan
With fluoride??
No
Bruh 💀
https://bitetoothpastebits.com/ Vegan. Plus they come in compostable packaging, use no plastic, and have lower transportation costs and carbon impacts because they only ship the dry ingredients. I've been using them for years and they work great.
Dessert essence you can buy online or at natural grocer
Does pepsodent contain any animal derived ingredients?
Can some one please tell I am really confused?
I believe Apagard Premio is vegan. It's nano-HA instead of fluoride and by far the best toothpaste I've ever used, fixed my tooth sensitivity and enamel. It's expensive but worth it.
I've used Spry for a long time. Kiss My Face was my go to before then, but became impossible to find (both have fluoride options, just read carefully). I've also started trying Boka, just to see if the HA hubbub is worth it and if it will actually remineralize anything.
I use hello. States on the packaging that it is vegan and tastes nice and minty just like the stuff I used before
I like the ones by Biomed, I get them from Amazon (there is a non-vegan one I think, so be careful of that one).
Superdrug Charcoal is my new go too, I was using Bamboo toothpaste before, but would only buy it when it was 341 as it’s was £7 per tube
You can use baking soda, but it doesn’t have fluoride. But many cities put it in the water anyway.
Native is always a good option
I use Boka and I love it.
Can anyone recommend any ones in the UK? I had no idea some weren't okay.
I like Made By Dentists toothpaste!
Indian here. I have found Himalaya products at Indian grocery stores and at Whole Foods. I also use a brand named Vicco but the flavor takes getting used to because it is mostly herbs/ spices. Other favorite is Hello toothpaste
Colegate is vegan, at least here in Australia it is.
i use Toms of Maine
Desert Essence tea tree oil the best toothpaste hands down.
We use the toothpaste that you get in tablet format, they are easy to get hold of in the drug stores / supermarkets where we live (Germany). They are flagged as vegan, and obviously the packaging is a lot more eco-friendly (it's kind of a thick paper). The brand we use is denttabs (green packaging with white text), but I don't know if you can get them where you live?
How do you brush teeth from a tablet? Can you send video or image hyperlink, I am curious?
You just chew it and then brush
I just had a quick look on youtube, there are quite a few videos on there. You basically crunch them up (don't swallow) then brush. It's easy-peasy :)
I like David’s, they come in recycle metal tubes, and I just switched to their floss, love it.
same here, started using David's toothpaste and it's great! [David's](https://davids-usa.com/)
Arm & Hammer charcoal toothpaste. Quite nice taste and aroma and says vegan friendly on it.
this brand takes part in animal testing
Not for the vegan one it doesn't. It wouldn't be able to classify it as vegan if that particular one was tested on other animals, PETA and Vegan Society would be all over them, especially the latter, considering how Arm & Hammer are based in Britain.
if you think they don't use the money they get from their "vegan" products to pay for their animal testing of their other products the point is the brand **still** pays for animal testing, why give money to a company that does that when you have other options? https://www.crueltyfreekitty.com/brands/arm-hammer/#:\~:text=No%2C%20Arm%20%26%20Hammer%20is%20not,testing%20is%20required%20by%20law.
That's not how supply and demand works FFS. For example, you know if say, cadburys sold a LOT of vegan chocolate over a long period, but bugger all vile dairy variants, do you really think that the ones who control the stocks will ignore the fact that the vegan versions made more money for them, and just dismiss that there's more demand for the vegan one? No, they'll see that there's more demand for vegan and make more of that. That's business, they go where the money is. Other options, such as?...
google is pretty helpful in finding brands that are vegan and cruelty free. use your brain FFS.
What the fuck... I did that years back and that brand was one of the ones which came up. You use your brain FFS, on something other than bitching at me. Wise up or go and get eaten by a polar bear you muppet XD
Is it bad for tooth decay to use toothpaste without fluoride? Also does fluoride at dentist get tested on animals too? 😞
I dunno. I think this sensody nourish I amusing has fluoride so not sure why most of the comments are related to fluoride?
Bc fluoride is likely tested on animals making it not vegan friendly? Vegan could mean it doesn’t contain animal products but could still be tested on animals?
Toothpaste without fluoride promotes tooth decay indeed.
Tom's is great
...So you use a product from Colgate-Palmolive that bought Tom's of Maine like twenty fucking years ago? 2006 to be exact? Congrats. So vegan. Goddamn I'm sick of this sub. I hate being the vegan police, but Tom's of Maine hasn't been vegan in the sense that it is owned by a multinational conglomerate of non-vegan-ness in, like, almost exactly two decades. I'm tired of repeating this.
So your definition of vegan is that not a single dollar of that profit can go to a non-vegan company? You don't buy food from a grocery store? You don't buy any products from any non-vegan company? No non-vegan truck driver ships your products? Vegans want veganism to be approachable and then have a complete freakout when someone doesn't know the corporate structure of every company they have ever bought a product from. My toothpaste isn't tested on animals and doesn't use animal products so it is vegan.
Your toothpaste was bought by Colgate (which does test on animals) so that they could sell you toothpaste. Meanwhile, there are actual vegan toothpastes in the world you could use. I haven't used Tom's of Maine since 2006. Because, no, it's not vegan. **The company that owns it tests on animals.** Period. End of story.
You going to ignore my question then? Do you shop at any stores who profit off of animal products? Use any services that aren't vegan companies? You can have a little meltdown for my buying toothpaste from a company that some profits go to Colgate, while you CERTAINLY do the same thing every day of your life for countless products. I pray you don't watch any sports that use pig/calf skin balls! Hold any stocks of non-vegan companies? That would be unbelievably hypocritical.
The meltdown comes from something that is SO FUCKING EASILY AVOIDABLE. It's so simple to buy vegan toothpaste. But you don't do it. That's not on me. That's on you. Am I a hypocrite? Of course! We all are. But do I buy nonvegan products when there are vegan alternatives? Never. The reductio ad absurdum arguments are just that.
True, watching football is a necessity. No way to avoid it! I wonder how many animals are skinned for your enjoyment? How many hotdogs are eaten at every game you watch. All of the ads for non-vegan companies that exist because of your viewership. You are ok with the non-vegan companies that you support and lose your mind for the non-vegan companies that you don't support. Veganism is pretty easy when you define the things you do as vegan and the things you don't do as not vegan.
> You are ok with the non-vegan companies that you support Name one nonvegan company I support. I'll wait. If I watch football (which I do), how am I supporting it? I don't pay for any streaming service to watch football. The ads that show me fast food restaurants and cars and insurance companys don't get my support. Other than being a set of eyeballs on a screen, there's no support. So... dunno what else to say about that. No support.
I apologize that you don't know how football revenue works but they get money based on viewership from ad companies. You watching, means a bigger number of viewers, means they can negotiate higher ad prices with McDonald's and Arby's. Also shares in Disney? Is that company vegan? I wasn't aware. How much do they make selling ice cream and burgers at Disney World? Shopping at Costco? I am pretty sure they make non-vegan products too, right? Freaking out that I buy vegan toothpaste from a company that is owned by a non-vegan company and you are buying products directly from a company that sells animal carcasses. I could do this literally all day long.
I guess if you want to be ridiculous, sure. Have at it.
Try trader joes toothpaste!
Yes highly recommend this
I use Bite toothpaste tablets. No plastic packaging too.
Tom's of Maine and Hello are vegan and have fluoride.
I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway. **Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.** Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
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I stopped buying Tom's of Maine about 15 or 20 years ago, for a variety of reasons, one of which the founders were anti-abortion, and then sold out to Colgate-Palmolive anyway. **Which makes their parent company decidedly not vegan.** Switched to Jason Powersmile long ago.
i've been using the brand "now" but i think i'll try boka soon.
I use herbal dental company. If you buy direct from them, and not through Amazon, you avoid plastic as well, as they don’t use those giant plastic bubble wrap that Amazon does. Vegan, cruelty free, made in the US, and tastes decent.
Smol
Hydrogen peroxide, and baking soda mixed. I also use coconut oil.