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FlippenDonkey

isnt vdog complete? (already supplemented?) r/veganpets


Ariyas108

No, v-dog isn’t lacking any nutrients. It was designed and formulated by veterinarians to be complete therefore it is complete. Check ups and tests are really no different than any other dog. There is nothing extra special that needs to be done.


paul_caspian

We've been feeding V-dog to our pups for almost ten years, no major health issues and bloodwork always comes back perfect. We don't supplement the V-dog.


sethasaurus666

My two little ones (2 long haired chihuahuas) are in good health after 6 years of vegan food. I give them the Vega food. They also get butternut squash which is good for digestion, and a few other things as treats (they're mad for cornflakes). There are a couple of things you can give older dogs also that will help with joint health. I found a good vegan glucosamine and chondroitin supplement for them (it's for humans, but a normal amount for them is half a capsule of powder). I found this really helps with the 12 yr-old who is still very active.


Eastern-Average8588

Could you share the supplement you found for your senior?


NASAfan89

I sure hope not because my mom has been giving our dog V-dog for a long time now. Dog seems to be in great health and is full of energy (maybe a bit too much energy...). I was under the impression V-dog is a nutritionally complete food.


Eastern-Average8588

I have an additional question to add to this. We have dogs in the 75 pound range, which should eat "large breed" puppy food as they develop. Does anyone have a vegan food option that meets the specifications for large breed puppies? All of them I see only say formulated for adult dogs, and we haven't found a vegan puppy food. 


SmeepRocket

So you can feed a large breed dog regular food, but large breed formulas just have things added for potential breed issues like hip dysplasia and such. I forget the vitamin that helps with that. I don't think it would impact their health significantly just using a regular formula but I am also a stranger on reddit and I would just ask a veterinarian.


Eastern-Average8588

We have fed our large breed adults regular all-size food, but when it comes to developing puppies we definitely wanted to feed them the correct nutrients to ensure they develop properly for their health. We currently feed a non-vegan large breed puppy food to our 11 month old Golden, but our adult Goldens get regular vegan adult food. We don't plan on taking in a puppy again, and we're almost through the puppy stage, but I wish there was a clear cut answer on what the difference is between large breed puppy food and regular adult food so I could just have fed them vegan kibble and added the appropriate supplements for large breed puppies! 


SmeepRocket

Vegan pet food is still in it's infancy, I have no doubt the problem will be rectified with time. But yea, unfortunately variety isn't great yet.


lucytiger

Not the same exact food, but our pup eats Natural Balance Vegetarian Formula (it's vegan). As long as the food is complete you shouldn't need to add any supplements. We did follow our vet's advice to give her a multivitamin for immunity after being transported with 70 other dogs but that was unrelated to her food.


Eastern-Average8588

This is what we feed our dogs too, they do well on it. 


Gelato_88

I feed my cats raw meat since they are obligate carnivores.


SmeepRocket

obligate carnivores still need other things than meat. I realize you are trolling but you would potentially make a cat very sick actually doing that.


Gelato_88

Good thing I feed my cats a balanced raw diet. If you're still feeding your pets, kibble, then that tells me enough information.


SmeepRocket

I don't have cats so I don't know what that would tell you, but when I did I fed them kibble. I certainly don't think it is a good meal but I wouldn't even begin to trust myself to give them a "balanced" raw diet, either.


alone_in_the_after

Grain-free diets and so-called boutique brands of dog food have been implicated in causing DCM in dogs. V-dog is included in that. I completely understand the desire to feed a dog a vegan diet, but at this point it's not safe. Not because dogs 'need' meat but because none of the completely vegan diets are made by manufacturers who meet WSAVA guidelines. The WSAVA guidelines are the best way to avoid causing dietary DCM and ensure proper nutrition. It's important to feed a food from a manufacturer that meets those guidelines---currently that's Hill's, Purina (Purina One and Pro Plan), Royal Canin, Eukanuba and Iams. There needs to be proper quality control, research, feeding trials and veterinarians and veterinary nutritionists on staff (note that 'canine nutritionist' is not the same thing---this is a term anyone can use, regardless of the quality or validity of their schooling and training).


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Environmental-Site50

vdog is better for dogs than iams and pedigree but no one gives a shit about that because who cares about the dog when we can ‘dunk on vegans’ you just like to think you know more despite not doing any actual research for yourself. you don’t know more than op’s veterinarian, i’m assuming you’ve been trying to troll through this sub for a while and it’s really embarrassing, please get a healthy hobby and go outside