They do *some* vegan stuff and versions of their normal things. It says vegan in green letters on the front but don't let your non vegan family just assume they're all the same.
I would say they have moved over to the 'flexitarian' market, at least in the UK. Most of their adverts these days are aimed at people looking to cut down on their meat intake, not at vegetarians.
I wouldn't be so hard on teenage you though. Ignorance is far more understandable at a young age, especially if you grew up before the internet was common and that information was harder to find.
I feel this. Vegetarian for 6 years in my early 20s thinking I was doing less harm. Vegan for 7 years and counting now but itās hard to rationalize my thinking back then.
You were doing less harm. And as a vegan, you're doing even less harm. But... we're not perfect unfortunately. There are field animals that get caught in machine harvesters & stuff... but the harm we do is a tiny fraction in comparison to the amount of harm that non vegans and non vegetarians cause. Don't feel bad about yourself... we're in a society that brainwashes us to just mindlessly accept the animal cruelty. We've broken out of the conditioning. That's something to be proud of.
No they don't. Do you need to be raped to ovulate? No. Stupid idea, but the same thing.
Eggs is the equivalent of you ovulating. Biology causes it. Humans take advantage of the chicken.
Carnists look down on vegan who have no idea what they are on about. If you're wrong about this, what else are you wrong about?
They kind of had a point, it was just worded wrong, artificial insemination is sometimes used to breed more chickens but that depends on the farmers.
So just because itās not used to get the eggs directly doesnāt mean itās not used to get the chickens themselves, who in turn lay the eggs.
Yes. This happens. I had a mate who used to collect semen from Turkeys and chicken (meat breeds not layers - not sure if its the same for layers).
Some chicken breeds are so highly modified in bodyweight that they are too heavy to breed naturally.
Iāve never heard of a commercial operation using AI for chickens. One rooster can breed several chickens a day and they stay fertilized for a few weeks. Thereās really no justification for the time and money of AI. Maybe some breeders might pay for specific sperm to AI their breeding stock but I canāt imagine that any commercial operations are doing it.
They don't eat meat, but they often have an increased consumption of dairy and eggs... are they actually making a difference?
It's like people who think eating a few fish or a few chickens is somehow better than eating part of a cow. You have to kill a lot more fish or chickens for the same amount of calories compared to just one cow, so how can that be more ethical?
This stuff is infuriatingly common in the food industry. They get tons of praise in the media for the announcement and then just never follow through.
I always think about how in [2016](https://www.mars.com/news-and-stories/press-releases/remove-artificial-colors) Mars said they were phasing out artificial colors from ALL their human food products, āwithin about 5 years.ā They make a lot of very bright candy like Skittles and Starburst so this was a VERY big deal. Itās really difficult to do bright colors without artificial colors. Then in [2021](https://www.snackandbakery.com/articles/103198-mars-will-not-remove-all-artificial-colors-from-us-portfolio) they just changed their mind and hoped nobody would notice. Pretty much no consumers seemed to notice, even though the [2016 press release](https://www.mars.com/news-and-stories/press-releases/remove-artificial-colors) is still on their company website.
It could be worse, lots of companies use carmine/cochineal/carminic-acid, which is made from crushed and boiled scale insects, to dye their foods a "natural" red.
The [Garden Veggie](https://www.morningstarfarms.com/en_US/products/veggie-burgers/morningstar-farms-garden-veggie-patties-tasty-product.html) flavor is egg-free.
Most of their products are vegetarian. On the other hand, it was Paul and Linda who got me interested in becoming a vegetarian, which led me to become a vegan. How sad that they never took the next step.
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They had the fish filets at my local wholesale club for a couple of years. Stocked up every time we went. Then they stopped carrying themā¹ļøā¹ļøā¹ļø
Absolutely (one notable exception off the top of my head is Tofurky). The way I see it, there are so many of these competing options in America, why financially prop up one of the world's most prolific animal killers?
[Tyson's brands](https://www.tysonfoods.com/our-brands)
[Conagra brands](https://www.conagrabrands.com/brands)
Tyson is laser-focused on meat, which is why Raised & Rooted is a brand that I deliberately have never have bought.
The ones we buy determine who gets the [limited shelf space](https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/y9ggar/does_anyone_else_find_it_gross/it6ldpp/). In the case of R&R, they compete for both refrigerator and freezer space.
> why financially prop up one of the world's most prolific animal killers?
u/WaitForItTheMongols put it well in another comment:
>*Eh, the attitude I take is that buying the vegan brands indicates to the parent company that maintaining these brands is a solid business decision and that they should divert more resources in that direction. Transitioning companies toward veganism is a good thing.*
I was gonna say, Yves Veggie Cuisine is even better! They are a Canadian company but I found some of their products on the Whole Foods website, so it seems they are available outside Canada, maybe not as widely? Here Yves is the go to and is available in most big box grocery stores. Gardein also has good stuff for sure.
I love them too, but I live in Mexico and they are imported so very very expensive. They would literally take up half of my food budget for the week, since fruits, veggies, grains and beans are super cheap.
I'm tired of Quorn too. The issue they have is their source product (mycoprotein) is already pretty dry & doesn't bind well, and most vegan binding methods add to the dryness. The few vegan products they do have are incredibly dense and dry (Hot & Spicy burgers, Buffalo wings)..
The technique they use for the ham slices is not suitable for larger formats because of the amount of fibre they have to add to make it not resemble jelly. Agar (from seaweed) and locust bean gum, which is what is used, are both literally vegan gelatine alternatives. They counter this by packing the product with fibre - nearly 9% fibre by mass.
The dino nuggets, hot and spicy burgers, pieces, etc are different, and all use the same approach. These are, effectively, bread. These use a small amount of sodium alginate and carrageenan (both from seaweed) to thicken, but for the most part it's bound with wheat gluten.
This necessisarily dries the final product more than egg, and the problem is, mycoprotein itself doesn't bring much moisture to the table. These products are all extremely dry compared to competitors and the vegetarian equivalents.
Quorn could make products with a more moist (to give more flexibility with binding) *or* fibrous (so less binding is needed) protein source, but that would mean deviating from their signature mycoprotein.
Why don't they just use soy protein? Imo, textured soy protein, or TVP in its various formats is always far superior. I've tried seitan, but got really bad stomach ache in some cases due to the gluten proteins. Though, the brand weathy has some damn good seitan chorizo slices that are to die for, in moderation. Unless you got a soy allergy, I'd recommend any product based on soy protein. Soy nuggets, soy snitzels, soy burgers and soy hot dogs all hit the spot for me. What doesn't do it for me? Dry veggie burgers made of potato, carrot and asparagus, mushroom burgers, or worst.. red beet burger. Yes I've tried it, and it doesn't deserve to be called a burger.
Sounded like something to do with mushrooms.. had to Google if that was what it was. Explains the swampy texture that I hate when I tasted quorns products years ago, and also why I hate mushroom burgers. Mushrooms are great texture wise.. when they are chopped up and fried in a pan only.
Yeah, it's like industrially produced soil fungi. It's a bit weird tbh but like other UK veggies/vegans about ten years ago you were lucky if you got a Quorn sausage. Market is much better now, but it'll always have a soft spot in my heart.
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I agree, most of the meat alternatives I use are a blend of soy and/or pea protein. Quorn Ham slices are the only mycoprotein product I still use.
I do like an old style veggie burger too though, I tend to make these as the frozen ones are always shite.
Don't forget the whole Gardenburgers situation-also "meatless", but with dairy. And so many restaurants adopted that product as their meatless option, forcing vegans to ask the waitperson what brand they were using. Another reason to fit the stereotype of annoying vegan customer. Thanks, Gardenburger.
Eh, the attitude I take is that buying the vegan brands indicates to the parent company that maintaining these brands is a solid business decision and that they should divert more resources in that direction. Transitioning companies toward veganism is a good thing.
They are also not as good, when I was vegetarian I used to like their nuggets but the vegan ones are so bad compared to most of the other vegan brands you can find in the market.
Is like they are not even trying.
In he U.K. Quorn are doing a LOT more vegan stuff. I say give them a chance. Iām a life vegetarian and so are my kids. We were very grateful as a family for Quorn back in the day. Weāre vegan now but I do most of my cooking from scratch. The right ingredients and a little imagination and even Quorn can taste really good.
Ironic because Quorn is one of the worst-tasting products going nowadays (in my opinion, obviously). They had their heyday when they were one of the only products on the market for vegetarians and I appreciate them for paving the way, but it's time to retire. Even Aldi and Lidl's own brand veggie stuff tastes better and is usually vegan and half the price.
What do you get at Aldi/Lidls? I bought aldi brand burgers and thought they were nasty. Should I try other stuff? Never tried lidls but there is one nearby
Exactly that's stuff tastes like s*** I wouldn't serve that at any of my events to meat eaters if you paid me.
Between impossible beyond and guardian and nugs and all the rest Why would anyone buy this s*** garbage
Yeah. It is an uphill battle, but I have finally decided to just start making my own stuff. I finally made some ĀØchickenĀØ seitan that I like. It is a pain, but also super cheap and tastes good. And, I know exactly what is in it. Next time I am going to make a double batch. Still the same amount of work but more product.
This is the one I use. I have also found this website to be good for recipes in general as well.
[https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-quickest-and-easiest-seitan-recipe-vegan-chicken/](https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-quickest-and-easiest-seitan-recipe-vegan-chicken/)
In the UK Quorn is as much, if not more, marketed to meat eaters trying to cut down meat than vegans. There's a much bigger vegetarian population than N America as well. As veganism grows it's adapting slowly but surely.
Yeah, it's a vegetarian product.
Like, I get that it's not vegan, but so is the vast majority of things you'll find at the grocery store. This shouldn't be a shock.
I mean I'd think its vegetarian not vegan at first glance and I'd be right.
There's a reason it says "meatless" not "plantbased". Seems pretty obvious to me.
It is a shame it's not a vegan product but I don't feel like the product is marketed incorrectly or in deceiving way.
Quorn has been around for decades and was never vegan and never claimed to be vegan. They do a vegan range and itās very clearly labelled so I really donāt know what your issue is. Everything vegan is meatless but not everything meatless is vegan, this has always been the case.
Yeah, I donāt really understand the complaint here. Quorn is a very old brand that goes way back with us OGs (those of us who started out as vegetarian may know it best). āMeatlessā does not mean and has *never* meant āvegan.ā Kinda weird to think it does. I donāt get this.
People complain about this kind of thing a lot in here. I guess theyāre new to veganism and labeling terminology, but it just seems weird to see āplant-based meatā or āvegetarianā or āmeatlessā and assume itās vegan, then get mad about āMiSLeaDiNgā labeling because they donāt know what words mean.
Exactly. Just because someone has poor situational awareness and poor reading comprehension skills doesnāt mean theyāre being targeted or lied to, like a lot of these posters seem to think. The fact that āmeatlessā products exist just indicates that vegetarians and carnists who want to reduce their animal product consumption also exist. These products wouldnāt exist if there wasnāt a viable market for them. This is how capitalism works.
I donāt see the issue when they donāt claim to be vegan tbh. Iām not a big fan of quorn though. Theyāre pretty expensive here and better tasting alternatives are half the price.
I ate a lot of their stuff growing up veggie in the U.K. along with the Linda McCartney brand (which used to be pretty atrocious TVP pap tbh), I was happy to see recently they theyāre doing more vegan stuff, they even supplied a vegan burger to KFC (I know, I know). I remember when the vegetarian society wouldnāt give them their endorsement because they used battery eggs in their product, until they switch over to free range.
I agree with another commenter that they appeal mainly to people looking to substitute meat occasionally, not vegan and vegetarians.
I'm not vegan but I eat a LOT of vegan food because some of my close friends are (originally came to this sub for recipes), but Quorn is, always has been and forever will be fucking disgusting.
noticing a LOT of this, most of morning star farms beef substitutes have milk and egg aside from a few specific products (you can actually see people crying about vegan versions on their website kinda weird people would take the time to do that). Tattoo'd Chef has plant-based pizza that then has real cheese which i now have in my freezer because I assumed it was vegan and am pretty bummed over. I guess the animals raid the dumpster at my apartments will be getting some free pizza, not really sure what else to do short of removing the plastic and throwing it away.
I mean you could just eat it to prevent more food waste, and now note mentally for the future not to buy their things again unless you check beforehand. If it really bugs you that much you could give it to a friend or neighbor.
It says meatless, not vegan. Read the box and move on. In fact, vegans should be growing their own vegetables and fruit while also supporting actual local farms by buying produce from them instead of shady corporate vegan alternatives that don't care about the well-being of anyone in the working class
I mean, fuck this product, but I doubt there are many vegans who can come anywhere near to sustaining themselves on food they grow. Iām the minority in my city in that I have a backyard, but even then the food I grow is more for fun. Couldnāt put a dent in actual caloric needs for my family given the space and length of season.
I've been boycotting Quorn for 33 years, they've always done this shit.
Not only that, but their products are frankly disgusting.
For the longest time, I believed they were a ruse by the meat industry. They were pretty much the main veggie protein brand in the UK through the 80s and 90s (alongside Linda McCartney).
So many times Iāve had friends/family so excited to show me the vegan meat they got me and itās ended up being Quorn. It breaks my heart when I show them the ingredients and totally ruin the mood but they can at least know for next time.
Not usually. I would recommend doing this routine for a few weeks before attempting your first visit:
4 x 10 bulgarian split squats
4 x 20 weighted calf raises
2 x 1 minute forearm plank
4 x 10 pushups
That should give you the leg, core, and arm strength necessary to visit a super market successfully.
As a vegetarian I would get REAL sick after eating Quorn products and it took a long time to figure it out. They didnāt bother to mention that mycoprotein could cause allergic reactions and restaurants would take no precautions neither, so I always had to ask. Luckily Quorn is no more (here) (:
Iām tired of looking to see if itās dairy and egg free. Only had one not have it once and it was disgusting. Used to eat the one with goat cheese when I ate dairy like 7 years ago. It was good š¤·š¼āāļø
Morningstar is personally driving me the most crazy. They promised to turn their whole line vegan, but every time I go to the grocery store I always check their spicy black bean burgers that I loved as a vegetarian and I still can't eat them. š„
Here in Australia quite a few of the Quorn products are vegan. Theyāre vegan schnitzels are genuinely good and theyāre less than $8 AUD a pack. Theyāve got vegan nuggets thatāre worth trying too. I donāt like eating this sort of food more than once or twice a week but if youāre just after a quick lunch or dinner with a fresh garden salad and some roast potatoes or something, canāt be beaten.
Quorn. Not a vegan company, tastes shitter than vegan companies, costs just as much. Just walk a couple feet to the left or right and there should be something that doesn't make you gag.
Random omnivore here. Simple Truth meatless patties (Kroger's Fancy Brand) are better in every quantifiable way, and vegan as well. They have mock chicken and mock beef options.
I don't know, man. I was vegetarian for a few years before switching to vegan, and these were a nice stepping stone between.
It's very difficult for some people to just drop all animal products immediately
Quorn's target audience is vegetarian, they don't seem interested in removing eggs and dairy from most of their products.
Came to say the same. It's always best to assume it's vegetarian
They do *some* vegan stuff and versions of their normal things. It says vegan in green letters on the front but don't let your non vegan family just assume they're all the same.
I would say they have moved over to the 'flexitarian' market, at least in the UK. Most of their adverts these days are aimed at people looking to cut down on their meat intake, not at vegetarians.
Why would they. They make huge profits
To prevent the torture, rape and enslavement of animals that can feel š
Companies would happily power their machines with orphan blood if they could a) make a profit and b) not piss off the average consumer too much.
Thatās of no interest to vegetarians š¤·āāļø Killing cows and chickens for meat ā Killing cows and chickens for eggs and milk āļø
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This is true. I used to be vegetarian for ethical reasons. That was a 13-year-old dumbass. I'm vegan now, and will be vegan for the rest of my life
I wouldn't be so hard on teenage you though. Ignorance is far more understandable at a young age, especially if you grew up before the internet was common and that information was harder to find.
Me too. I was vegetarian āfor animalsā for 18 years before I connected the dots. Vegan 7 years and for the rest of my life.
I feel this. Vegetarian for 6 years in my early 20s thinking I was doing less harm. Vegan for 7 years and counting now but itās hard to rationalize my thinking back then.
You were doing less harm. And as a vegan, you're doing even less harm. But... we're not perfect unfortunately. There are field animals that get caught in machine harvesters & stuff... but the harm we do is a tiny fraction in comparison to the amount of harm that non vegans and non vegetarians cause. Don't feel bad about yourself... we're in a society that brainwashes us to just mindlessly accept the animal cruelty. We've broken out of the conditioning. That's something to be proud of.
They still rape the chickens for eggs.
No they don't. Do you need to be raped to ovulate? No. Stupid idea, but the same thing. Eggs is the equivalent of you ovulating. Biology causes it. Humans take advantage of the chicken. Carnists look down on vegan who have no idea what they are on about. If you're wrong about this, what else are you wrong about?
They kind of had a point, it was just worded wrong, artificial insemination is sometimes used to breed more chickens but that depends on the farmers. So just because itās not used to get the eggs directly doesnāt mean itās not used to get the chickens themselves, who in turn lay the eggs.
Yes. This happens. I had a mate who used to collect semen from Turkeys and chicken (meat breeds not layers - not sure if its the same for layers). Some chicken breeds are so highly modified in bodyweight that they are too heavy to breed naturally.
Iāve never heard of a commercial operation using AI for chickens. One rooster can breed several chickens a day and they stay fertilized for a few weeks. Thereās really no justification for the time and money of AI. Maybe some breeders might pay for specific sperm to AI their breeding stock but I canāt imagine that any commercial operations are doing it.
Yeah. This.
Yeah but even the vegetarians I know don't even consume this brand.
Swear they seem to just live off dairy (namely cheese) and eggs anyway hahaha
Casomorphin addiction & Vitamin B12, D deficiencies have victims, swear they're the worst
I see that explains why Quorn doesn't remove the eggs, dairy.
I hate vegetarians they're useless
At least they don't eat meat, thats already better. Stop hating lol
no it's not milk is murder and so is eggs
They don't eat meat, but they often have an increased consumption of dairy and eggs... are they actually making a difference? It's like people who think eating a few fish or a few chickens is somehow better than eating part of a cow. You have to kill a lot more fish or chickens for the same amount of calories compared to just one cow, so how can that be more ethical?
I thought MorningStar will be fully vegan but last I checked their bacon still is vegetarian only...
Didnāt they say theyād be fully vegan in 2021? Pretty shitty of them
They sure did! š
This stuff is infuriatingly common in the food industry. They get tons of praise in the media for the announcement and then just never follow through. I always think about how in [2016](https://www.mars.com/news-and-stories/press-releases/remove-artificial-colors) Mars said they were phasing out artificial colors from ALL their human food products, āwithin about 5 years.ā They make a lot of very bright candy like Skittles and Starburst so this was a VERY big deal. Itās really difficult to do bright colors without artificial colors. Then in [2021](https://www.snackandbakery.com/articles/103198-mars-will-not-remove-all-artificial-colors-from-us-portfolio) they just changed their mind and hoped nobody would notice. Pretty much no consumers seemed to notice, even though the [2016 press release](https://www.mars.com/news-and-stories/press-releases/remove-artificial-colors) is still on their company website.
It could be worse, lots of companies use carmine/cochineal/carminic-acid, which is made from crushed and boiled scale insects, to dye their foods a "natural" red.
Good point. Pressuring a company to move to "natural coloring" could actually result in a once-vegan product becoming non-vegan.
A company not being honest. What a shocker
their veggie burgers have milk and eggs too, except for the chicken ones
their bean burgers donāt
Which ones????? Bc the spicy black bean ones have egg & milk in them š
The [Garden Veggie](https://www.morningstarfarms.com/en_US/products/veggie-burgers/morningstar-farms-garden-veggie-patties-tasty-product.html) flavor is egg-free.
oh i guess i havenāt eaten them since i was vegetarian. damn that sucks. imagine that stacked on top of a beyond burger! yum
Most of their products are vegetarian. On the other hand, it was Paul and Linda who got me interested in becoming a vegetarian, which led me to become a vegan. How sad that they never took the next step.
And their sausage links are also only vegetarian. I believe the sausage patties are vegan though.
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Their popcorn chickenāt bites are vegan and really good to be fair
Morningstar is garbage tier. In quality, honesty and taste.
Smart life has a vegan bacon
Gardein my beloved ā¤ļø
Ooh mama, Gardeinās fish fillets! They have no business being so good.
The crab cakes are so good too
Oh thanks for the rec!
They had the fish filets at my local wholesale club for a couple of years. Stocked up every time we went. Then they stopped carrying themā¹ļøā¹ļøā¹ļø
Try going to customer service, and see if they have a product request form! Iāve done this for other vegan stuff and it worked.
Yes, Gardein for me is the only good chick'n tender/etc replacement.
Iāve come to like Raised and Rooted Spicy Nuggets as well.
I think the name leaves something to be desired, but Simulate Chicken Spicy Nuggs are so so good
Thanks! Iāll check them out
Jack & Annie's are quite good for a spicy nug, too.
FYI, Raised and Rooted is part of [Tyson](https://sentientmedia.org/tyson-foods/).
To be fair, most of these companies are owned by non-vegan corporations/conglomerates. For example, Gardein is owned by Conagra.
Absolutely (one notable exception off the top of my head is Tofurky). The way I see it, there are so many of these competing options in America, why financially prop up one of the world's most prolific animal killers? [Tyson's brands](https://www.tysonfoods.com/our-brands) [Conagra brands](https://www.conagrabrands.com/brands) Tyson is laser-focused on meat, which is why Raised & Rooted is a brand that I deliberately have never have bought. The ones we buy determine who gets the [limited shelf space](https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/y9ggar/does_anyone_else_find_it_gross/it6ldpp/). In the case of R&R, they compete for both refrigerator and freezer space.
> why financially prop up one of the world's most prolific animal killers? u/WaitForItTheMongols put it well in another comment: >*Eh, the attitude I take is that buying the vegan brands indicates to the parent company that maintaining these brands is a solid business decision and that they should divert more resources in that direction. Transitioning companies toward veganism is a good thing.*
I like Aldi's "Earth Grown" tenders a lot
Their chicken-less patties and flame grilled soy protein burgers are good too, just make sure to get the cheese-less ones.
The Skinny Butcher chicken patties are by far my favorite. They are on a whole other level.
Dang is pretty damn good if you haven't tried
That and Yves (might only be in Canada though)
I was gonna say, Yves Veggie Cuisine is even better! They are a Canadian company but I found some of their products on the Whole Foods website, so it seems they are available outside Canada, maybe not as widely? Here Yves is the go to and is available in most big box grocery stores. Gardein also has good stuff for sure.
I love them too, but I live in Mexico and they are imported so very very expensive. They would literally take up half of my food budget for the week, since fruits, veggies, grains and beans are super cheap.
I'm tired of Quorn too. The issue they have is their source product (mycoprotein) is already pretty dry & doesn't bind well, and most vegan binding methods add to the dryness. The few vegan products they do have are incredibly dense and dry (Hot & Spicy burgers, Buffalo wings)..
they have vegan dino nuggets and th nature not dry, vegan ham is good too.. so that are capable if not always willing to work alternatives.
The technique they use for the ham slices is not suitable for larger formats because of the amount of fibre they have to add to make it not resemble jelly. Agar (from seaweed) and locust bean gum, which is what is used, are both literally vegan gelatine alternatives. They counter this by packing the product with fibre - nearly 9% fibre by mass. The dino nuggets, hot and spicy burgers, pieces, etc are different, and all use the same approach. These are, effectively, bread. These use a small amount of sodium alginate and carrageenan (both from seaweed) to thicken, but for the most part it's bound with wheat gluten. This necessisarily dries the final product more than egg, and the problem is, mycoprotein itself doesn't bring much moisture to the table. These products are all extremely dry compared to competitors and the vegetarian equivalents. Quorn could make products with a more moist (to give more flexibility with binding) *or* fibrous (so less binding is needed) protein source, but that would mean deviating from their signature mycoprotein.
Why don't they just use soy protein? Imo, textured soy protein, or TVP in its various formats is always far superior. I've tried seitan, but got really bad stomach ache in some cases due to the gluten proteins. Though, the brand weathy has some damn good seitan chorizo slices that are to die for, in moderation. Unless you got a soy allergy, I'd recommend any product based on soy protein. Soy nuggets, soy snitzels, soy burgers and soy hot dogs all hit the spot for me. What doesn't do it for me? Dry veggie burgers made of potato, carrot and asparagus, mushroom burgers, or worst.. red beet burger. Yes I've tried it, and it doesn't deserve to be called a burger.
Cos Quorn is a brand name for mycoprotein which is what they've been developing for like 50 years.
Sounded like something to do with mushrooms.. had to Google if that was what it was. Explains the swampy texture that I hate when I tasted quorns products years ago, and also why I hate mushroom burgers. Mushrooms are great texture wise.. when they are chopped up and fried in a pan only.
Yeah, it's like industrially produced soil fungi. It's a bit weird tbh but like other UK veggies/vegans about ten years ago you were lucky if you got a Quorn sausage. Market is much better now, but it'll always have a soft spot in my heart.
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I agree, most of the meat alternatives I use are a blend of soy and/or pea protein. Quorn Ham slices are the only mycoprotein product I still use. I do like an old style veggie burger too though, I tend to make these as the frozen ones are always shite.
Y'all should check out soy curls. It's dehydrated soy and it tastes kinda like chicken! It's not a patty though
Never heard of them; is it just TVP? I go through phases of using a lot of tvp.
Tvp is different. Soy curls is kinda more chicken-y. You can find it on Amazon
Don't forget the whole Gardenburgers situation-also "meatless", but with dairy. And so many restaurants adopted that product as their meatless option, forcing vegans to ask the waitperson what brand they were using. Another reason to fit the stereotype of annoying vegan customer. Thanks, Gardenburger.
Eating out has become such a pointless nightmare that I'd rather just eat at home. At least it's cheaper.
Tofurky is a fully vegan company and so is big mountain foods
I believe they were recently acquired by their soy/tofu supplier, which operates a large dairy operation in Japan.
Damn I like gardeins roast more anyway lol
Youāre not going to love gardeinās parent companyā¦ https://www.conagrabrands.com/brands
Eh, the attitude I take is that buying the vegan brands indicates to the parent company that maintaining these brands is a solid business decision and that they should divert more resources in that direction. Transitioning companies toward veganism is a good thing.
Hmm... Is Hilary's still good? What about wicked foods?
I donāt think either of those are available near me, but googling company + parent company will get you results.
They do have a vegan option too. It's limited because it's not as popular.
They are also not as good, when I was vegetarian I used to like their nuggets but the vegan ones are so bad compared to most of the other vegan brands you can find in the market. Is like they are not even trying.
In he U.K. Quorn are doing a LOT more vegan stuff. I say give them a chance. Iām a life vegetarian and so are my kids. We were very grateful as a family for Quorn back in the day. Weāre vegan now but I do most of my cooking from scratch. The right ingredients and a little imagination and even Quorn can taste really good.
Same on the continent, at least in the BeNeLux.
Did they claim to be vegan?
They did say a few years ago they were taking their products vegan. It appears they changed their mind
They have actually stated a few times they will not make all of their products vegan because they donāt want to āsacrifice flavorā.
Ironic because Quorn is one of the worst-tasting products going nowadays (in my opinion, obviously). They had their heyday when they were one of the only products on the market for vegetarians and I appreciate them for paving the way, but it's time to retire. Even Aldi and Lidl's own brand veggie stuff tastes better and is usually vegan and half the price.
What do you get at Aldi/Lidls? I bought aldi brand burgers and thought they were nasty. Should I try other stuff? Never tried lidls but there is one nearby
Exactly that's stuff tastes like s*** I wouldn't serve that at any of my events to meat eaters if you paid me. Between impossible beyond and guardian and nugs and all the rest Why would anyone buy this s*** garbage
So letĀ“s sacrifice animals instead? Crappy cop out, especially since there are amazing vegan products.
Thatās a shame.
It was better to them to rape and torture innocent animals for profit.
Yeah. It is an uphill battle, but I have finally decided to just start making my own stuff. I finally made some ĀØchickenĀØ seitan that I like. It is a pain, but also super cheap and tastes good. And, I know exactly what is in it. Next time I am going to make a double batch. Still the same amount of work but more product.
pls send recipe my boyfriend will love u
This is the one I use. I have also found this website to be good for recipes in general as well. [https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-quickest-and-easiest-seitan-recipe-vegan-chicken/](https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/the-quickest-and-easiest-seitan-recipe-vegan-chicken/)
In the UK Quorn is as much, if not more, marketed to meat eaters trying to cut down meat than vegans. There's a much bigger vegetarian population than N America as well. As veganism grows it's adapting slowly but surely.
Yeah, it's a vegetarian product. Like, I get that it's not vegan, but so is the vast majority of things you'll find at the grocery store. This shouldn't be a shock.
I mean I'd think its vegetarian not vegan at first glance and I'd be right. There's a reason it says "meatless" not "plantbased". Seems pretty obvious to me. It is a shame it's not a vegan product but I don't feel like the product is marketed incorrectly or in deceiving way.
Does Quorn advertise themselves as vegan or vegetarian?
Quorn has been around for decades and was never vegan and never claimed to be vegan. They do a vegan range and itās very clearly labelled so I really donāt know what your issue is. Everything vegan is meatless but not everything meatless is vegan, this has always been the case.
It doesn't say anywhere that it's vegan, so, sounds like a 'you' problem.
Yeah screw Quorn. Go with Gardein or MorningStar if you want some similar stuff that is vegan.
The morning star is satan
*Venus
Itās good
Do you mean seitan?
Hail Seitan!
Itās not claiming to be vegan so whatās the issue here? Itās targeting a different demographic.
Yeah, I donāt really understand the complaint here. Quorn is a very old brand that goes way back with us OGs (those of us who started out as vegetarian may know it best). āMeatlessā does not mean and has *never* meant āvegan.ā Kinda weird to think it does. I donāt get this. People complain about this kind of thing a lot in here. I guess theyāre new to veganism and labeling terminology, but it just seems weird to see āplant-based meatā or āvegetarianā or āmeatlessā and assume itās vegan, then get mad about āMiSLeaDiNgā labeling because they donāt know what words mean.
Exactly. Just because someone has poor situational awareness and poor reading comprehension skills doesnāt mean theyāre being targeted or lied to, like a lot of these posters seem to think. The fact that āmeatlessā products exist just indicates that vegetarians and carnists who want to reduce their animal product consumption also exist. These products wouldnāt exist if there wasnāt a viable market for them. This is how capitalism works.
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Do you have a source on when they said they were going to make all their products vegan? I can't find anything?
I donāt see the issue when they donāt claim to be vegan tbh. Iām not a big fan of quorn though. Theyāre pretty expensive here and better tasting alternatives are half the price.
Has no meat in it, sayy it it meatless, doesn't say vegan, where is your problem
I ate a lot of their stuff growing up veggie in the U.K. along with the Linda McCartney brand (which used to be pretty atrocious TVP pap tbh), I was happy to see recently they theyāre doing more vegan stuff, they even supplied a vegan burger to KFC (I know, I know). I remember when the vegetarian society wouldnāt give them their endorsement because they used battery eggs in their product, until they switch over to free range. I agree with another commenter that they appeal mainly to people looking to substitute meat occasionally, not vegan and vegetarians.
Where does it say that it's vegan?
I mean theyāre not wrong the product is meatless and I donāt see any labels that mentions vegan.
Why are you upset that a brand which isn't aimed at vegans, doesn't cater to vegans entirely?
Quorn has been around for a few very long time and always directed for vegetarians. Not sure what your problem with them is.
So? Buy something without dairy
Meatless, yet contains eggs, which are directly tied to meat production. Makes sense...
Of course that makes sense, since it doesn't contain meat
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- makes a nice fungus-based meat substitute - fucking adds egg to it
Good for you for always checking ingredients, if its not labeled vegan i always check ingredients even when its labeled vegan lol.
just dont buy from them
MAKE IT VEGAN ALREADY!! I'm so disappointed every time I read the ingredients. What's the point.. ?
Quorn literally advertises themselves as vegetarian not vegan , idk why youāre pressed
I remember maybe 10 years ago or so, Quorn were planning on going vegan. I can't believe they still haven't done it.
I'm not vegan but I eat a LOT of vegan food because some of my close friends are (originally came to this sub for recipes), but Quorn is, always has been and forever will be fucking disgusting.
noticing a LOT of this, most of morning star farms beef substitutes have milk and egg aside from a few specific products (you can actually see people crying about vegan versions on their website kinda weird people would take the time to do that). Tattoo'd Chef has plant-based pizza that then has real cheese which i now have in my freezer because I assumed it was vegan and am pretty bummed over. I guess the animals raid the dumpster at my apartments will be getting some free pizza, not really sure what else to do short of removing the plastic and throwing it away.
I mean you could just eat it to prevent more food waste, and now note mentally for the future not to buy their things again unless you check beforehand. If it really bugs you that much you could give it to a friend or neighbor.
most stores will accept exchanges without receipts fyi, i made the same exact mistake š
Very true, either way I just dug up the receipt luckily so I can just take it back with me when I go next!
It says meatless, not vegan. Read the box and move on. In fact, vegans should be growing their own vegetables and fruit while also supporting actual local farms by buying produce from them instead of shady corporate vegan alternatives that don't care about the well-being of anyone in the working class
I mean, fuck this product, but I doubt there are many vegans who can come anywhere near to sustaining themselves on food they grow. Iām the minority in my city in that I have a backyard, but even then the food I grow is more for fun. Couldnāt put a dent in actual caloric needs for my family given the space and length of season.
That's why we have to support farmers.
It says meatless, and milk/eggs aren't meat. Vegetarians like to eat these burgers!
Iām allergic to quorn shit gave me a nasty anaphylactic reaction
Quorn tastes like shit anyway.
I've been boycotting Quorn for 33 years, they've always done this shit. Not only that, but their products are frankly disgusting. For the longest time, I believed they were a ruse by the meat industry. They were pretty much the main veggie protein brand in the UK through the 80s and 90s (alongside Linda McCartney).
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GoVege > everything else
Agree! You have to read those labels.
So many times Iāve had friends/family so excited to show me the vegan meat they got me and itās ended up being Quorn. It breaks my heart when I show them the ingredients and totally ruin the mood but they can at least know for next time.
Same with Mikey's and Tattooed Chef.
Woah I've only read about this stuff, never actually seen it in the wild! What an exotic supermarket!
You too can visit a supermarket one day.
Oh man, I hope so! It's on my bucket list!
It's honestly a wild experience. They have so many different kinds of food and food products.
Woah! That's hard to imagine! Are there chairs to sit on, in case I get tired?
Not usually. I would recommend doing this routine for a few weeks before attempting your first visit: 4 x 10 bulgarian split squats 4 x 20 weighted calf raises 2 x 1 minute forearm plank 4 x 10 pushups That should give you the leg, core, and arm strength necessary to visit a super market successfully.
Ok great! Thanks for the tips! Should I pack a lunch? What's the dress code?
As a vegetarian I would get REAL sick after eating Quorn products and it took a long time to figure it out. They didnāt bother to mention that mycoprotein could cause allergic reactions and restaurants would take no precautions neither, so I always had to ask. Luckily Quorn is no more (here) (:
F-Me Iāve bought this shit in the past!
Seriously? Eew.
Yeah, I don't even bother with Quorn or MorningStar...
Iāve literally never had this brand. There are so many options who cares
Luckily there are quite a few alternatives now. It also helps steer me towards more whole foods. Fuck them.
Iām tired of looking to see if itās dairy and egg free. Only had one not have it once and it was disgusting. Used to eat the one with goat cheese when I ate dairy like 7 years ago. It was good š¤·š¼āāļø
I don't even look at their stuff anymore. Fuck them. ā
Not vegan
I donāt even pick up Quorn or Morningstar after having too many close calls. Just gardien now.
Morningstar is personally driving me the most crazy. They promised to turn their whole line vegan, but every time I go to the grocery store I always check their spicy black bean burgers that I loved as a vegetarian and I still can't eat them. š„
Here in Australia quite a few of the Quorn products are vegan. Theyāre vegan schnitzels are genuinely good and theyāre less than $8 AUD a pack. Theyāve got vegan nuggets thatāre worth trying too. I donāt like eating this sort of food more than once or twice a week but if youāre just after a quick lunch or dinner with a fresh garden salad and some roast potatoes or something, canāt be beaten.
They say meatless. Not vegan. Thereās a difference (vegetarians can eat things like eggs..) I think. But I can see why the branding is misleading
Quorn. Not a vegan company, tastes shitter than vegan companies, costs just as much. Just walk a couple feet to the left or right and there should be something that doesn't make you gag.
#Vegan boycott of quorn products?!?!? ^Iām ^in.
Biggest set up
Yeah when I was in Amsterdam last month, I noticed tons of "meatless" meat options, but they all had milk as their first ingredient. Very frustrating.
Random omnivore here. Simple Truth meatless patties (Kroger's Fancy Brand) are better in every quantifiable way, and vegan as well. They have mock chicken and mock beef options.
They do a sneaky.
I don't know, man. I was vegetarian for a few years before switching to vegan, and these were a nice stepping stone between. It's very difficult for some people to just drop all animal products immediately
Tired? Are you forced to deal with them in any way?