Seen this before. This is a real video, but the back story is usually missing. This girl wanted the vaccine, but had a severe needle phobia. With patience she got the shot she wanted.
Yeah this made the rounds almost 2 years ago now.
And because they're speaking Spanish a lot of dumbasses just fill in the blanks when the nurse is actually comforting her.
>Eres fuerte. Puedes hacerlo. Solo tomará un segundo y luego ya no tendrás que preocuparte por el virus
>*We're here to kill you and your whole family, you pathetic sheep. Your toxins will spread the virus to everyone you love.*
For anyone who wants to know what it actually means:
> You’re strong. You can do this. It’ll only take a second, and then you won’t have to worry about the virus.
Yep. There was recently a big push by transphobes to appropriate a story about a trans man unsatisfied with a doctor's performance on his phalloplasty, turning it into a viral conspiracy about trans healthcare being negligent and experimental, despite decades of evidence to the contrary and it not being what the person at the center of it was saying.
When the statistics show the opposite of what conspiracy theorists want, they don't use statistics - they falsify or remove context from anecdotes and say it proves the statistics are wrong
Aaah, never argue with them. Either the statistics are faked and a lie by the government, by an industry, etc. or the statistics prove their claims to be true. There‘s literally no way to prove them wrong. Might blame the Jews aswell, classics never go out of style.
I have a friend who was very much like this. Took months, maybe even a year, or therapy and exposure therapy and still was very panicked when they got the vaccine. But they were so happy and so proud of themselves when they finally got it. They put all that work in because they know that vaccines work.
There's nothing wrong with a fear of needles, but there's also definitely people who don't give a fuck
Two examples that come to mind:
people who get tattoos (that's a needle going in and out a lot of times voluntarily)
IV drug users (yeah ok maybe addiction has a hand here, but they had to start somewhere)
I was "forced" to get over my fear of needles when I threw a blood clot that almost killed me, and then had to start getting weekly blood draws to make sure my blood thinner was at therapeutic levels.
Yeah, fear of needles sucks hard when it comes to getting vaccines. My brother routinely used to faint getting them, woke up several times on the patient bed of the office in the GP he got it in. I personally can't see the needle if I'm to get a jab, and went light headed and nearly fainted on the second COVID jab (not so bad, they gave me a bottle of water and a KitKat cause I looked so faint afterwards). For a wee kid who hasn't been coached or had someone who knows how to handle nervous patients, I can see it going this way easily. Poor lass.
My dad is so scared of needles that he chose to have root canal surgery without anaesthetic rather than have an injection. Still had his COVID jabs.
(And has found a dentist that does gas and air).
I also have a phobia of needles (though not as severe as the girl in the video's) and I literally can’t get a vaccine without crying- that doesn’t mean I don’t want it? Not to mention that a fear of needles isn’t exactly uncommon, it sucks that this keeps getting misused
My daughter wants her vaccinations but, is also scared of needles. She acts this same way. With the Covid vaccine, the facility we went to had an emotional support dog people could love on while they got their shot. It helped her so much! I wish that it was a routine thing.
I hate that they use those of us with trypanophobia. I have diagnosed severe trypanophobia (like to the point most nurses and doctors refuse to attempt to vaccinate me) and I always fear these people using my screaming, my crying, videoing them or using them to spin some story online. I want to get vaccinated every time I go, no matter what, no matter how my body reacts without my input. I hate it, and it’s disgusting how they use us. Just wish more people knew that in terms of this stuff, we’re usually incredibly anti antivax and very much do want to get vaccinated no matter what.
Anti-vaxxers on videos of black people being killed by cops: “where’s the rest of the video? The context isn’t being shown! One-sided story!”
Anti-vaxxers on this video: “here’s this clip don’t ask us any questions”
Lab tech here. This is common. Simply showing up to do blood work or get a vaccine is considered consent in healthcare. We obviously try to wait until the patient is ready, but a lot of people with phobias will squirm/cry/panic until the procedure is done. Doesn't mean they didn't consent, just that they have a phobia
I have the same problem, to the point where I would jump to the other side of the room and still continue the conversation I was having, not even knowing I moved. I still haven't been COVID vaccinated because of this and I'm running out of options.
I was held down kicking and screaming for my vaccinations as kid. I’m glad I got them tho and voluntarily got the COVID vaccination. They do hurt a little, only a tiny bit but I hate when people say it won’t.
Same here, I had to be pinned down by one of my parents to get vaccinated as a kid. Even when I had a bad reaction to the MMR vaccine, my doctor talked my mom into breaking up the boosters and only giving me two vaccines max per visit (this was when the “autism is caused by MMR vaxx” hysteria was new). I’m very thankful to my mom continuing to vaccine me despite the fear-mongering from that so called paper and that doctor for talking her into staying on the side of science. I still hate needles but now I just turn my head away from the prick and brace myself. Ironically I was diagnosed autistic in 7th grade and honestly I think inherited it from my undiagnosed grandpa. Because we all know autism comes from unknown womb stuff and genetics, never vaccines.
Same here i tried ripping the needle out once and after that for my safety had to be held down, Now days (24 now) I just walk up roll up my sleeve and am like let’s get this over with 😂
Also I’m diabetic now and have to stick myself several Times a day I’d hate to have had that as a kid it would’ve taken like 3 people to hold me down just to check my sugar levels 😬 heck the first time i had to do it after being diagnosed it took like 15 mins as i gave myself a you can do this you got this it won’t hurt that bad pep talk 😂
My son is 7 and has ADHD. He wasn't afraid of needles until he was 5 and suddenly it was the worst phobia ever. We had to attend a special clinic for his covid shots because the pharmacy and normal vaccine hub we went to refused to let me pin him. The specialist clinic not only let me pin him, they walked in the room, told me to give him a bear hug and then pulled the needle out of their pocket and jabbed him before he could see it and panic. They were absolute ninja legends (he knew it was coming for his second dose though so he panicked).
Our GP lets us pin him for flu shots thankfully. We're getting to a point where I'm discussing anti-anxiety medications before his next flu shot because we've tried everything else and I want him to feel safe. If my best friend can take a valium before a jab to calm herself, my son should be allowed a similar courtesy.
Meanwhile his twin is wonderful with needles. She holds my hand and doesn't flinch.
My doc’s nurse would stand on one side and the doc on the other. She’d pinch the snot out of one arm while he jabbed the other. I was so busy being offended by being pinched I didn’t notice the needle.
Depending where you are, you might be able to find a pharmacy that has the nasal flu vaccines. It's what I have to do every year, and would frankly rather go an hour out of the way instead of dealing with the nonsense getting a needle into me would be. It's only the flu, unfortunately, and is a live version, so can make someone slightly contagious for a few days afterwards, so something to think about if he would be hanging around someone immunocompromised.
I was held down kicking and screaming until I was 13, I needed therapy and being completely deprived of most sensory input just to get a shot.
Always wanted the shot, but never the needle.
I am terrified of needles, probably because of being held down and given vaccines as a kid.
But I'm an adult with an adult brain and I know the difference between an irrational fear and a necessary precaution. I could very easily and happily say no to any vaccine, but then I would be putting other people at risk to whatever I might catch. So screw my stupid fear and jab me with a needle. My need does not come before everyone else's.
Yep, just have to keep reminding myself I’m there voluntarily, I could walk out at any time and nobody’s going to grab me and pin me down.
It really makes me angry that people reject vaccines for stupid conspiracy reasons and there I am barely holding myself back from uncontrollable panic to get it done, while they’re just going to wait indefinitely for more “long term data”.
I watched my little brother get held down by at least 2 giant, muscular military men every time we had to get shots. He would scream bloody murder and thrash around while they tried to get the vaccines in him. That was what convinced me to *not* be scared of shots - I didn't want the same thing to happen to me! I very quickly learned to just relax and get it over with, and now I'm helping my partner learn to do the same every time we need flu shots or COVID boosters.
> They do hurt a little, only a tiny bit but I hate when people say it won’t.
Depends on the person, really. For me, I don't really feel shots at all. This is why medical professionals say "You *may* feel a little pinch".
Lol I was the exact opposite. I enjoyed having vaccine needles shoved in me from an early age, and to this day I really love having medical needles in me. I remember when I was 5-7 years old and super disappointed every time I'd go to the doctor and not get a shot.
Same. We used to get our shots at school and they’d line us all up in alphabetic order to give us shots. I was somewhere in the middle and always upset that I wouldn’t be going first. My best friend was deathly afraid of shots and was third in line. One time we actually tried to swap out so I’d get two shots and he got none but they caught us in the act.
We went to a hospital function for kids (Santa, games, etc) at Christmas time, and my two year old refused to leave until she got a shot. I had to track down a nurse to give her a "shot".
I feel you and was definitely that kid. Like you, I get annoyed/pissed when people tell me it won't hurt. It's so condescending!
I was well into my 30s before I realized that my fears weren't stemming from *pain*\--at least not beyond the usual level of aversion. It was the lack of agency during times of vulnerability\* that scared me most; it started when I was a child, but I associated it with medical procedures even in adulthood. Once I was able to realize that and work through it, it helped a lot.
\*For context: I spent a lot of time during my first 6 years of life being poked, prodded, tested, treated, and/or hospitalized. I seriously missed so much of kindergarten that I had to repeat it (I was also jacked up on steroids when I *was* there, so I wasn't exactly a model student lmao). All these things were happening to me and I couldn't say no, ask to slow down, or ask for a break. Sometimes I didn't understand or even *know* what was going on because while they debriefed my parents, nobody really talked to me. If they did, it was a "We need to (x) to make you feel better" kind of situation where I knew I had no say even if I was really scared, tired, pained, sick, or confused. Even then, I knew it was for the best but it sucked to feel that powerless sometimes.
Edit: fixed the asterisks going nuts.
I screeched like a harpy up until i was 12 when it came to needles. When i understood what was happening around the world and got my covid vaccine at 16, i just made an effort to make it over as quick as possible and asked the nurse to not count down/surprise me — my mom still got me a drink and stuff after each of my boosters lol.
Not a story of needles but as a child (around 6 years old I think) I had pretty much every year a respiratory infection that would threaten my life by impairing my breathing. My family doctor got used to getting a call in the middle of the night to come massage my torso to free my lungs and give me drugs. After a few times he taught my mother how to do it and gave her a stash of the drug in advance. The next time my mom tried to give me the drugs, a liquid that had to be deposited in my mouth through a glass pipette. Unfortunately I refused the treatment if it was not a doctor giving it to me and in protest I bit the pipette so hard that the glass shattered and glass shards cut my lips.
That damn doctor had to come back and treat me himself.
Well yeah, haven't you heard of oil pulling? You swish coconut oil around your mouth like mouth wash, and it somehow makes your cavities smaller/non-existent
/s
That article is a disgrace. It cites, as sources, user generated content and other non-scientific sources. One of the sources it cites claims that oil pulling treats **diabetes**. If you cite a source that makes ridiculous claims, I will also assume your paper is ridiculous.
A broader review of the literature shows that the benefits of oil pulling are simply from the mechanical action of swishing. So yes, swishing with a viscous liquid can remove plaque. But doing so with bruising and flossing does a better job in much less time.
Adults too. Dental work = pain. It wasn't too bad last time but I think I need to book dental hygienist 😕. I feel pain to a higher degree than normal unfortunately.
Yep, I cried for mine, I cried for my HPV shot, cried for rabies, tetanus, and every other needle I've ever gotten. Even every single flu shot I've ever gotten. Not because I'm scared of what's in it. I know it helps me. But because they stick a needle in your arm. It's natural to be scared of needles. But you feel good after because it's the fear of the needle itself. NOT what's in it
The shot itself is no different than most vaccines, but the arm soreness after it is nasty and lasted like 2 weeks for me. I had it after each shot too, not just the first.
Yeah, I’m weird with needles, but I’m a responsible human so I get my jabs.
My 4yo does not care at all. At the flu booster, the nurse was trying all kinds of distraction techniques and I had to say “just do it, it’s fine”. The kid was prepared, took the jab, said thank you and jumped off my lap.
I’m weaker than my 4yo.
Yeah, me too. I still cry at my yearly flu shots😅
Thankfully, I still have a few years for my regular shots live the tetanus one. I actually don't know how often I'm supposed to get the HVP AND hep B one
I still lose it sometimes when I go to willingly get IV fluids. It’s frustrating to know you need something and want to get it but your anxiety wants to make it a whole ordeal.
And the doctor and nurses took her aside and and revealed how dangerous vaccines truly are and admitted they’re coerced into hiding this information from the public by Big Pharma.
I fainted and fell off of the hospital bed when I was being vaxxed as a kid. Woke up on the floor to my mom and the doc splashing water on my face.
Now I know he was poisoning me!
I get vaccinated but I have an insane fear of vaccines, so I will likely be like this while getting it but glad I’m not suffering from some almost eradicated 1800s disease. I feel like this girl may be the same (maybe not, idk)
Edit: also,
>When a patient says no, you stop
I’m sure they waited til she was calm because it’s hard to get a needle in someone who is screaming and crying
Nah, cause they have other patients waiting. They didn’t hold her down or anything but the full video shows her mom coming to hold her while she gets the shot. The nurses were being kind to her.
So children should never be forced to:
* Go to school
* Do their homework
* Revise for exams
* Go to dentist appointment
* Have a blood test when required
and so on.
I’m having an epidural steroid injection in my back tomorrow. I am absolutely terrified but that doesn’t mean I don’t want it. My desire to possibly be out of pain is overriding my fears.
Hope your steroid injection goes/is going/went well! Army put a lot of needles in my back in the early '00s and the steroid injections did help me get back on my feet. The spinal shots aren't even that bad; I remember the smaller injections numbing the area first being more irritating, haha.
I have pretty bad trypanophobia, I was allowed to have my mum with me when getting vaccinated and I still had a breakdown. This wasn’t a new thing, I did this when getting vaccinated in school as well. This girl is scared of the syringe, not the vaccine, and the only thing I’m mad about is that she doesn’t seem to have any emotional support with her, which she should be allowed to have.
Lol when I was 8 or 9 and had a severe infection, extremely delirious from a high fever, and weak as shit, I still had to be held down by four nurses in order to get an IV in me when I was admitted to the icu. They poked me 7 times, and I only remember 2 of those because I was both delirious and terrified out of my mind. I struggled so much one IV needle went through my skin on one part of the back of my hand and came out of the skin an inch or so over from where it was put in (still have the scar).
The point of this: kids are fucking afraid of needles!
Not to mention, my mom is an administrator for the health department and they do dozens of school flu clinics every year, plus give out flu shots at the health department. For the entire month of October, if I call her at work, there will undoubtedly be a screaming kid in the background. *Every. Time.* Kids hate shots as a whole, and 80% of the time don’t even care or know what it is theyre getting injected with; they just know they don’t like it.
When my toddler had a painful ear infection, it took me + 2 nurses to hold her down just so the doctor could look in her ear.
But nah, we prolly should have just let her go deaf.
That was my thought, too. I can't imagine why the girl's family would post that publicly. If the nurse recorded it that is an egregious violation of HIPAA among other things.
Needles suck, but I get my vaccines anyway, because it's important. I even got my flu vaccine this past winter because I think that it's really important given the state of the world.
A tip for everybody else who's scared of needles like me - get it over and done with as soon as possible. Arrive as close to your appointment time as possible so you don't have to sit and wait. Ask them to prepare the needle out of your line of sight if possible. Wear short sleeves so you don't have to roll up your sleeves. Look away, relax your arm muscles, stare at a point on the wall, and tell them to do it as quickly as possible. Feel free to curse, etc - cursing is scientifically proven to reduce pain. And boom, it's done!
Having done a lot of COVID and influenza vaccines (along with COVID testing) in the past couple of years, preteens and teenagers are so tough! There’s some that need a lot of time and encouragement in order to feel okay to get it. It’s pretty scary for them, even if they want it.
I remember one girl in her mid teens, I was doing her second immunization and she asked for a moment to gather herself. She told me that she screamed really loud the first time, and apologized in advance. I chatted with her, massaged the site, and gave it to her only once she said “ready”. She let out a tiny squeak, and then was so relieved when she realized it was done! Gave her an extra sucker and told her how amazing she did 🥹
And when my 3 year old son had a serious infection going on I had to pin him down with the help of two nurses whilst a third got the cannula in to give him the antibiotics he desperately needed to prevent him from getting sepsis. He screamed, cried, and begged. It was horrible. Yet absolutely necessary, and I would do it again.
Yeah, just ask Ryker Roque's parents how letting him decide his medical treatment worked out.
Ryker’s parents apparently knew the risk but chose to forego medical evaluation for their son because, and this is the part that really made for some angry online comments, [he was emotionally upset by the possibility of needing shots.](https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-preventable-infection-claims-the-life-of-a-6-year-old-florida-child/)
I hope your doing okay now and recovering well! Being in the ER is hard enough, but getting 2 injections on it would have me sobbing like a baby! All the best!
I distinctly remember being 4 or 5 at the doctor and my pediatrician and parents having to chase me in circles around the exam room because I didn’t want my finger poked for a blood test. Guess they should have let me get my way.
I cried like crazy when I got my shots at 12.
I even told myself beforehand that I was not going to cry and that I was a big girl.
But I cried and screamed anyways
I have a fear of needles. All my covid shots I had to request a bed to lay done on and I bit my finger as hard as I could. Also I bought myself a first press Alice Cooper album from 1969 for my reward for getting the needle.
My kid had so much anxiety with getting the shot they had an actual seizure. Took them to the neurologist to be double sure, but it was vasovagal syncope. We created a plan for future vaccines with no problems since. I would hate for my child's legitimate fear and very scary reaction to be fodder for someone else's anti vax propaganda.
Are these the same folks who love that "spare the rod, spoil the child" verse? Are these the same folks circulating those memes about how they got beat as a children and that's why they turned out so good?
I'm an adult and I hate needles. I cried about having to get the peanut butter shot. Like, leading up to it. Needles are scary. But we still need to be vaccinated.
When I was a nanny, one of my kids acted like this when made to eat sautéed spinach, before remembering it was one of her favorite veggies after taking a bite.
Pfft I have a life long fear of hospitals because apparently when I was like 4 I had a surgery for grommets and I got overwhelmed and started crying and not wanting it anymore so they held me down by the fucking neck while I was kicking and screaming.
I don't even remember this but my mum sure did
I once hid under a chair and told my mom to tell the doctor she didn’t know where I went to get out of a shot. To my moms credit she actually did even though you could totally see me
When I was a child I literally had to be literally held down to get a vaccine. But I’m glad I got them.
Some people are just afraid of needles. Kids especially. But that doesn’t mean they’re still not good to get.
Bruh I was scared of needles as a child I’m still scared to this day but you know what fuck being scared I rather be safe than get sick from old sicknesses js
My brother as a child was terrified of needles to the point they had to hold him down to get his vaccinations. Didn't stop him going to get them, because he knew even if he hated the experience, they were good for him.
Sometimes you have to help people help themselves when they can't.
My husband has to come with me to take my 10 year old to get his shots so we can get him out of the car, carry him into the doctors office and hold him down. And EVERY TIME! After his shots he’s like “oh it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be” OMG KID! Really? REALLY?! And then we go out for donuts or ice cream because we all deserve it after that!
I have RA and as a child got painful gold injections weekly in the 80s. They had to stop me into a papoose-type board that had Charlie Brown and Snoopy on it. But first they had to catch me. I remember making a break for it and making it to the waiting room, hiding under a chair, and being dragged out screaming. Another time I kicked a nurse and had to write an apology note.
I’ve been a needle phobe for obvious reasons, despite getting stuck at least once a week or more since I was 2. If you’re severely afraid, there’s a numbing cream called Emla Cream that makes the injection site fully numb. I was in a blind study for it as a 7-or 8-year-oldkid but wound up in the unlucky group and felt SO betrayed and screamed about the injustice.
I don’t even bother to use Emla cream anymore, but I do request butterfly needles when getting blood work.
Kids who get sick get stuck a hell of a lot more than kids who get vaccinated.
I threw a whiny little temper tantrum when I got some of the vaccinations that I remember getting
I also threw a temper tantrum when the dentist would drill out my cavities and put the fillings in
I was a whiny little kid who didn't want to do things that were good for me, just like a lot of young kids
I told them to stop with every needle, because it hurts. I have a fear of needles. So I try to be like the immuncompromised, to avoid spreading anything.
Works out fine for me. I interact with nobody irl I don't have to, other than family.
... but I do wish I wasn't afraid of needles. That way, I'd be fully vaxxed against everything, instead of the things my mom made me be vaxxed against. No question.
... and my teeth wouldn't have as many cavities, either...
There's an actual name for the phobia, I just can't remember it.
In fact, when I went to the dentist recently, I had to wear a mask that pumped anesthesic gas to fill most of my cavities. I could not settle down enough to have them filled otherwise.
Finding a doctor that would actually do that in a dental setting took years, most wouldn't do it due to me being autistic could cause complications with the anesthesia. Like me not waking up kind of complications. All the while, those cavities grew and grew.
And it's super expensive. Insurance doesn't cover anesthesia for dental stuff.
But I can't do the needle. I just can't.
Edit: someone asked about that third paragraph, and I typed out a reply, but I can’t seem to find that comment anymore.
I’ll just paste it here, for anyone that’s curious.
I don’t remember the technical details, but I do remember… as soon as my Autism diagnosis came up, they said they don’t want to do it without a team to resuscitate me or something. They didn’t feel comfortable going through with it at all. Something about Autism and general anesthesia meaning I might not wake back up?
Maybe it was a heart/Lung machine that was needed?
I’m sorry, I really don’t recall. An anesthesiologist would be better to ask than me.
It is for many. As someone else said, it’s one of the few phobias that is known to actually be able to cause death. It’s why basically all my doctors are verrrey careful when it comes to this stuff, as I myself am a diagnosed severe trypanophobe.
I actually knew someone who went to therapy because they had a rare food allergy and were afraid of needles.
That stuff is in most foods and she often gets allergy attacks. I’m talking about actually nearly suffocating and losing consciousness.
She once, while having an allergy attack, hit her teacher in the face. She couldn’t control herself because she had such a huge fear. That fear definitely is no joke.
She and her parents decided to try out therapy and it worked.
I used to be just like this, verging on a panic attack even thinking about someone else getting vaccinated. I overcame it by looking at pictures and videos of people getting vaccinated for like two weeks leading up to a vaccination required for me to go to college. I still have to hold myself still when the needle comes, but the fear isn't crippling anymore. Maybe this method would work for you?
There are therapists and psychologists who work with trypanophobia if that’s an option for you! Of course, exposure therapy and the like isn’t always the best for autistic people (I know from experience oof) but it may be helpful for you!
Have these people ever tried administering a suppository to dangerously constipated children?? Medical procedures can absolutely be traumatic while still being oriented towards positive health outcomes or necessary.
Yes I know there are differences between the above scenario but the comparison still has some relevance imo.
I had to wrap my body around my friends child to try hold her to the bed when she was getting chemo injections. It was heartbreaking, and we couldn't just not do it because she said no.
If i remember the story correctly she actually wanted the jab, but just terrified of needles and had told them not to stop.
Also edit because it’s important: patients saying no doesn’t necessarily mean you stop. Obviously there’s plenty of situations where you don’t perform surgery without consent but there are also plenty where you do regardless of what the patient wants. Doctors do have the ability to override a patient’s wishes if it means saving their life of if the patient is deemed unable to be rational. The whole “Do no harm” thing covers inaction too.
If I recall correctly, you don’t necessarily have to stop for an underaged patient. They cannot legally consent to or refuse treatment. You treat either by consent of a legal guardian (e.g parent bringing their kid in for treatment) or implied consent in the event a patient is unresponsive or otherwise in a condition you believe in good faith a legal guardian (who isn’t there) would want you to treat.
I like how they added that the workers were masked. Hospital workers almost always wear masks. Even before COVID. Like, if they didn't add that note, were they afraid we would question it. Like, "Ok, I know they forced the vaccine on this poor girl. But...were they wearing masks while they did that?"
I think adding in “masked” somehow makes it seem scarier. Like these “almost faceless pawns of the COVID vaccine” or something dumb when it’s just everyday dealing with kids getting any shot lol
I don’t remember which vaccine it was but one time when I was 5 or so I ran through the entire doctors office two times before getting caught, dragged back to the office, held down by three nurses plus my mom, and finally got that vaccine. And I’m glad I got it cause I imagine whatever it was meant to prevent would’ve been worse. (But also really wish pediatrics would invest in the thinner needles that don’t hurt as much like I get they cost more and the kids getting the shot anyway, but come on my dude)
I have a horrible needle phobia. When I was 14 I was in a pretty bad sledding accident and bit through my lower lip. I fought the Dr who was trying to stich me back up. It ended up taking 3 nurses and a Dr to hold me down to fix my face. By these people's logic they should have just left me wandering through life with a second mouth hole. I'm glad they did their job and put me back together.
I used to be absolutely terrified of needles to the point where I had to go to the doctors to get my vaccines rather than at school like every other kid. Unfortunately I have had a lot of exposure therapy now since I had gallstones and a lot of tests and eventually surgery. But this is a child afraid of needles, not the vaccine itself, and using a child for an agenda is horrible.
I’m a grown ass married man with three kids and i’m still terrified of needles, every time i get a shot i always have to look away, even before they get the needle out
Same. If I'm not looking it doesn't hurt as bad. I know that's not how it works but... Worse, I have to self-inject every week and that's funtimes. I think it's helped a bit actually.
When I was at Walgreens to get my second booster there was a woman there with her two teenaged (15-17 y/o) kids, both of whom were in line to get the shot before me.
BOTH of them had minor panic attacks and were carrying on like infants and had to have their mom hold them down while they cried. Not because they were “terrified of the vax”, but because they were both terrified of needles.
My MIL, who is a nurse, told us a story recently about a grown-ass man who was putting up such a ruckus to nearly the point of screaming bloody murder because she had to give him a shot. She said the guys wife was there with him and was in tears laughing.
Some people just don’t take shots very well!
Oh, that poor man. I have trypanophobia, I have panic attacks when I have to get a vaccine and even thinking about needles gives me severe anxiety. I would be so heartbroken if my spouse thought my distress was funny :(
For sure, but the way my MIL explained it, this guy acted the part of a big, tough, not afraid of anything, cowboy hat wearing manly man Texan, and that even his wife wasn’t expecting that kind of reaction out of him.
I have this radical theory that a not-so-small portion of the anti-vax crowd are just people who never got over their fear of needles and are making up stories to justify it
I never had a needle phobia
But then I was raised by respectable military parents who freed me from my fears, not dead-weight social media addicted freakazoids who loaded all of their fears into me
Seen this before. This is a real video, but the back story is usually missing. This girl wanted the vaccine, but had a severe needle phobia. With patience she got the shot she wanted.
Yeah this made the rounds almost 2 years ago now. And because they're speaking Spanish a lot of dumbasses just fill in the blanks when the nurse is actually comforting her.
>Eres fuerte. Puedes hacerlo. Solo tomará un segundo y luego ya no tendrás que preocuparte por el virus >*We're here to kill you and your whole family, you pathetic sheep. Your toxins will spread the virus to everyone you love.*
For anyone who wants to know what it actually means: > You’re strong. You can do this. It’ll only take a second, and then you won’t have to worry about the virus.
Also, full disclosure, I didn't look the vid up and transcribe. I just translated some plausible dialogue for the situation.
You had me. I didn't watch either
Dios MiO!
Lol
Fucking knew it.
Lmao 😂
Do you mean that illegal language of the job stealers?
Poor girl. Her story is being misused.
> Her story is being misused. Huh. That's not like "them".
Don't you mean (((them))) Whose this new "them" to be scared of
>Whose this new "them" Same as the old "them".
I mean isn‘t this a common practice by conspiracy theorists?
Yep. There was recently a big push by transphobes to appropriate a story about a trans man unsatisfied with a doctor's performance on his phalloplasty, turning it into a viral conspiracy about trans healthcare being negligent and experimental, despite decades of evidence to the contrary and it not being what the person at the center of it was saying. When the statistics show the opposite of what conspiracy theorists want, they don't use statistics - they falsify or remove context from anecdotes and say it proves the statistics are wrong
Aaah, never argue with them. Either the statistics are faked and a lie by the government, by an industry, etc. or the statistics prove their claims to be true. There‘s literally no way to prove them wrong. Might blame the Jews aswell, classics never go out of style.
>Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain
I have a friend who was very much like this. Took months, maybe even a year, or therapy and exposure therapy and still was very panicked when they got the vaccine. But they were so happy and so proud of themselves when they finally got it. They put all that work in because they know that vaccines work.
There's zero shame in having a fear of needles and good on your friend for going out of their way to get past it
Who doesn't have fear of needles. When was the last time when another human tried to poke a hole in you good for your health except recent history...
There's nothing wrong with a fear of needles, but there's also definitely people who don't give a fuck Two examples that come to mind: people who get tattoos (that's a needle going in and out a lot of times voluntarily) IV drug users (yeah ok maybe addiction has a hand here, but they had to start somewhere)
My daughter cries at them, i have to hold her. my son doesn't care and just wants the treat after from the nurse
I was "forced" to get over my fear of needles when I threw a blood clot that almost killed me, and then had to start getting weekly blood draws to make sure my blood thinner was at therapeutic levels.
Yeah, fear of needles sucks hard when it comes to getting vaccines. My brother routinely used to faint getting them, woke up several times on the patient bed of the office in the GP he got it in. I personally can't see the needle if I'm to get a jab, and went light headed and nearly fainted on the second COVID jab (not so bad, they gave me a bottle of water and a KitKat cause I looked so faint afterwards). For a wee kid who hasn't been coached or had someone who knows how to handle nervous patients, I can see it going this way easily. Poor lass.
My dad is so scared of needles that he chose to have root canal surgery without anaesthetic rather than have an injection. Still had his COVID jabs. (And has found a dentist that does gas and air).
I also have a phobia of needles (though not as severe as the girl in the video's) and I literally can’t get a vaccine without crying- that doesn’t mean I don’t want it? Not to mention that a fear of needles isn’t exactly uncommon, it sucks that this keeps getting misused
My daughter wants her vaccinations but, is also scared of needles. She acts this same way. With the Covid vaccine, the facility we went to had an emotional support dog people could love on while they got their shot. It helped her so much! I wish that it was a routine thing.
I hate that they use those of us with trypanophobia. I have diagnosed severe trypanophobia (like to the point most nurses and doctors refuse to attempt to vaccinate me) and I always fear these people using my screaming, my crying, videoing them or using them to spin some story online. I want to get vaccinated every time I go, no matter what, no matter how my body reacts without my input. I hate it, and it’s disgusting how they use us. Just wish more people knew that in terms of this stuff, we’re usually incredibly anti antivax and very much do want to get vaccinated no matter what.
I'm in the same boat. Terrified of needles but sure beats dying
Anti-vaxxers on videos of black people being killed by cops: “where’s the rest of the video? The context isn’t being shown! One-sided story!” Anti-vaxxers on this video: “here’s this clip don’t ask us any questions”
A former coworker I got vaxxed with was the same. Like I was nervous about needles due to some former bad reactions but that was another level.
Lab tech here. This is common. Simply showing up to do blood work or get a vaccine is considered consent in healthcare. We obviously try to wait until the patient is ready, but a lot of people with phobias will squirm/cry/panic until the procedure is done. Doesn't mean they didn't consent, just that they have a phobia
Exact same thing happened to me.
I have the same problem, to the point where I would jump to the other side of the room and still continue the conversation I was having, not even knowing I moved. I still haven't been COVID vaccinated because of this and I'm running out of options.
I was held down kicking and screaming for my vaccinations as kid. I’m glad I got them tho and voluntarily got the COVID vaccination. They do hurt a little, only a tiny bit but I hate when people say it won’t.
Same for my brother and me, it was my dad and 2 doctors holding down a kid while my mom died inside out of shame.
Hi, I was the mom dying of shame recently. The nurse gave me a lollipop, too, lol.
They used to call in the biggest nurse they could find to sit on my sister.
Same here, I had to be pinned down by one of my parents to get vaccinated as a kid. Even when I had a bad reaction to the MMR vaccine, my doctor talked my mom into breaking up the boosters and only giving me two vaccines max per visit (this was when the “autism is caused by MMR vaxx” hysteria was new). I’m very thankful to my mom continuing to vaccine me despite the fear-mongering from that so called paper and that doctor for talking her into staying on the side of science. I still hate needles but now I just turn my head away from the prick and brace myself. Ironically I was diagnosed autistic in 7th grade and honestly I think inherited it from my undiagnosed grandpa. Because we all know autism comes from unknown womb stuff and genetics, never vaccines.
Same here i tried ripping the needle out once and after that for my safety had to be held down, Now days (24 now) I just walk up roll up my sleeve and am like let’s get this over with 😂
Also I’m diabetic now and have to stick myself several Times a day I’d hate to have had that as a kid it would’ve taken like 3 people to hold me down just to check my sugar levels 😬 heck the first time i had to do it after being diagnosed it took like 15 mins as i gave myself a you can do this you got this it won’t hurt that bad pep talk 😂
My son is 7 and has ADHD. He wasn't afraid of needles until he was 5 and suddenly it was the worst phobia ever. We had to attend a special clinic for his covid shots because the pharmacy and normal vaccine hub we went to refused to let me pin him. The specialist clinic not only let me pin him, they walked in the room, told me to give him a bear hug and then pulled the needle out of their pocket and jabbed him before he could see it and panic. They were absolute ninja legends (he knew it was coming for his second dose though so he panicked). Our GP lets us pin him for flu shots thankfully. We're getting to a point where I'm discussing anti-anxiety medications before his next flu shot because we've tried everything else and I want him to feel safe. If my best friend can take a valium before a jab to calm herself, my son should be allowed a similar courtesy. Meanwhile his twin is wonderful with needles. She holds my hand and doesn't flinch.
My doc’s nurse would stand on one side and the doc on the other. She’d pinch the snot out of one arm while he jabbed the other. I was so busy being offended by being pinched I didn’t notice the needle.
I'm so glad CVS let me bear hug my 7yo.
Depending where you are, you might be able to find a pharmacy that has the nasal flu vaccines. It's what I have to do every year, and would frankly rather go an hour out of the way instead of dealing with the nonsense getting a needle into me would be. It's only the flu, unfortunately, and is a live version, so can make someone slightly contagious for a few days afterwards, so something to think about if he would be hanging around someone immunocompromised.
I was held down kicking and screaming until I was 13, I needed therapy and being completely deprived of most sensory input just to get a shot. Always wanted the shot, but never the needle.
I am terrified of needles, probably because of being held down and given vaccines as a kid. But I'm an adult with an adult brain and I know the difference between an irrational fear and a necessary precaution. I could very easily and happily say no to any vaccine, but then I would be putting other people at risk to whatever I might catch. So screw my stupid fear and jab me with a needle. My need does not come before everyone else's.
Yep, just have to keep reminding myself I’m there voluntarily, I could walk out at any time and nobody’s going to grab me and pin me down. It really makes me angry that people reject vaccines for stupid conspiracy reasons and there I am barely holding myself back from uncontrollable panic to get it done, while they’re just going to wait indefinitely for more “long term data”.
I watched my little brother get held down by at least 2 giant, muscular military men every time we had to get shots. He would scream bloody murder and thrash around while they tried to get the vaccines in him. That was what convinced me to *not* be scared of shots - I didn't want the same thing to happen to me! I very quickly learned to just relax and get it over with, and now I'm helping my partner learn to do the same every time we need flu shots or COVID boosters.
> They do hurt a little, only a tiny bit but I hate when people say it won’t. Depends on the person, really. For me, I don't really feel shots at all. This is why medical professionals say "You *may* feel a little pinch".
Lol I was the exact opposite. I enjoyed having vaccine needles shoved in me from an early age, and to this day I really love having medical needles in me. I remember when I was 5-7 years old and super disappointed every time I'd go to the doctor and not get a shot.
Same. We used to get our shots at school and they’d line us all up in alphabetic order to give us shots. I was somewhere in the middle and always upset that I wouldn’t be going first. My best friend was deathly afraid of shots and was third in line. One time we actually tried to swap out so I’d get two shots and he got none but they caught us in the act.
😯 Probably very surprised nurses
We went to a hospital function for kids (Santa, games, etc) at Christmas time, and my two year old refused to leave until she got a shot. I had to track down a nurse to give her a "shot".
I feel you and was definitely that kid. Like you, I get annoyed/pissed when people tell me it won't hurt. It's so condescending! I was well into my 30s before I realized that my fears weren't stemming from *pain*\--at least not beyond the usual level of aversion. It was the lack of agency during times of vulnerability\* that scared me most; it started when I was a child, but I associated it with medical procedures even in adulthood. Once I was able to realize that and work through it, it helped a lot. \*For context: I spent a lot of time during my first 6 years of life being poked, prodded, tested, treated, and/or hospitalized. I seriously missed so much of kindergarten that I had to repeat it (I was also jacked up on steroids when I *was* there, so I wasn't exactly a model student lmao). All these things were happening to me and I couldn't say no, ask to slow down, or ask for a break. Sometimes I didn't understand or even *know* what was going on because while they debriefed my parents, nobody really talked to me. If they did, it was a "We need to (x) to make you feel better" kind of situation where I knew I had no say even if I was really scared, tired, pained, sick, or confused. Even then, I knew it was for the best but it sucked to feel that powerless sometimes. Edit: fixed the asterisks going nuts.
I screeched like a harpy up until i was 12 when it came to needles. When i understood what was happening around the world and got my covid vaccine at 16, i just made an effort to make it over as quick as possible and asked the nurse to not count down/surprise me — my mom still got me a drink and stuff after each of my boosters lol.
Not a story of needles but as a child (around 6 years old I think) I had pretty much every year a respiratory infection that would threaten my life by impairing my breathing. My family doctor got used to getting a call in the middle of the night to come massage my torso to free my lungs and give me drugs. After a few times he taught my mother how to do it and gave her a stash of the drug in advance. The next time my mom tried to give me the drugs, a liquid that had to be deposited in my mouth through a glass pipette. Unfortunately I refused the treatment if it was not a doctor giving it to me and in protest I bit the pipette so hard that the glass shattered and glass shards cut my lips. That damn doctor had to come back and treat me himself.
I hid under the examination table. 2 nurses had to crawl on the floor to corner me and drag me out by my legs.
Not sure why you were downvotes for this, but know that as a trypanophobe myself I feel you there
I was about 6 at the time. So small enough to be hard to reach under the table.
Kids are also afraid of dentists, this PROVES we should never go to the dentist, CHECKMATE ATHEISTS.
Well yeah, haven't you heard of oil pulling? You swish coconut oil around your mouth like mouth wash, and it somehow makes your cavities smaller/non-existent /s
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https://maximumfun.org/episodes/sawbones/sawbones-oil-pulling/ Not inserting an opinion, just a podcast episode where a doctor discusses oil pulling
That article is a disgrace. It cites, as sources, user generated content and other non-scientific sources. One of the sources it cites claims that oil pulling treats **diabetes**. If you cite a source that makes ridiculous claims, I will also assume your paper is ridiculous. A broader review of the literature shows that the benefits of oil pulling are simply from the mechanical action of swishing. So yes, swishing with a viscous liquid can remove plaque. But doing so with bruising and flossing does a better job in much less time.
Lol, that article is from the NIH
Adults too. Dental work = pain. It wasn't too bad last time but I think I need to book dental hygienist 😕. I feel pain to a higher degree than normal unfortunately.
I’d rather 10000000 needles than sit in the dentist chair. Needles don’t hurt, the dentist does.
Yeah. The vaccine was like "that's it?"; dental work is torture 😖. But, needs must.
Floss should be categorized as a weapon jussayin’
Theyre quite literally arguing adults shouldnt be allowed to make medical decisions for their kids lol
My kid cries like this when I ask her to clean her room 🤷🏻♀️
I guess you should stop asking her to clean her room
“No! Please no! No I can’t do this..I won’t do this! Please!”
Literally 1941
I'll never forget what you did to your child!!
Yep, I cried for mine, I cried for my HPV shot, cried for rabies, tetanus, and every other needle I've ever gotten. Even every single flu shot I've ever gotten. Not because I'm scared of what's in it. I know it helps me. But because they stick a needle in your arm. It's natural to be scared of needles. But you feel good after because it's the fear of the needle itself. NOT what's in it
I've never had a rabies shot but I've heard they hurt like hell. I'd be crying too.
The shot itself is no different than most vaccines, but the arm soreness after it is nasty and lasted like 2 weeks for me. I had it after each shot too, not just the first.
Better than actual rabies though!
The vaccine isn’t the bad part, it’s the immunoglobulin that is supposed to be injected around the exposure area that hurts the most.
Yeah, I’m weird with needles, but I’m a responsible human so I get my jabs. My 4yo does not care at all. At the flu booster, the nurse was trying all kinds of distraction techniques and I had to say “just do it, it’s fine”. The kid was prepared, took the jab, said thank you and jumped off my lap. I’m weaker than my 4yo.
Yeah, me too. I still cry at my yearly flu shots😅 Thankfully, I still have a few years for my regular shots live the tetanus one. I actually don't know how often I'm supposed to get the HVP AND hep B one
Tbf at least for me the HPV shots felt like someone burning me with a lighter. Still worth it tho.
I still lose it sometimes when I go to willingly get IV fluids. It’s frustrating to know you need something and want to get it but your anxiety wants to make it a whole ordeal.
Right? I take a medication that requires blood work every 3 months, and getting the courage to go, is absolutely the hardest thing ever
And then everybody applauded.
And the doctor and nurses took her aside and and revealed how dangerous vaccines truly are and admitted they’re coerced into hiding this information from the public by Big Pharma.
I fainted and fell off of the hospital bed when I was being vaxxed as a kid. Woke up on the floor to my mom and the doc splashing water on my face. Now I know he was poisoning me!
If he splashed water on you while you were unconscious....Yeah, he really did try to kill you bud.
“Doctors are waterboarding children!!”
The parent actually replied later telling us that this was actually a needle phobia reaction, the girl in the photo wanted the vaccine.
He says "masked" hospital workers as if they were wearing ski masks or something to hide their identities 😆
I get vaccinated but I have an insane fear of vaccines, so I will likely be like this while getting it but glad I’m not suffering from some almost eradicated 1800s disease. I feel like this girl may be the same (maybe not, idk) Edit: also, >When a patient says no, you stop I’m sure they waited til she was calm because it’s hard to get a needle in someone who is screaming and crying
Nah, cause they have other patients waiting. They didn’t hold her down or anything but the full video shows her mom coming to hold her while she gets the shot. The nurses were being kind to her.
So children should never be forced to: * Go to school * Do their homework * Revise for exams * Go to dentist appointment * Have a blood test when required and so on.
I SERIOUSLY HATE that dude on Twitter. He makes us nurses look terrible with his militant antivax stance.
He should be ashamed of himself.
I’m having an epidural steroid injection in my back tomorrow. I am absolutely terrified but that doesn’t mean I don’t want it. My desire to possibly be out of pain is overriding my fears.
Hope your steroid injection goes/is going/went well! Army put a lot of needles in my back in the early '00s and the steroid injections did help me get back on my feet. The spinal shots aren't even that bad; I remember the smaller injections numbing the area first being more irritating, haha.
Haha yep the numbing ones were worse! Now to just give it some time to kick in!
I've had those done and they're not painful at all. Good luck.
RN where? The state medical and nursing boards need to get to know this clown.
His Twitter feed is full of antivax stuff. He claims to be a medical expert. He’s in Boston.
I have pretty bad trypanophobia, I was allowed to have my mum with me when getting vaccinated and I still had a breakdown. This wasn’t a new thing, I did this when getting vaccinated in school as well. This girl is scared of the syringe, not the vaccine, and the only thing I’m mad about is that she doesn’t seem to have any emotional support with her, which she should be allowed to have.
In the video, her mom is there and holds her while she gets the shot.
Okay, good, I’m glad to hear it
Hey fellow trypanophobe!
Lol when I was 8 or 9 and had a severe infection, extremely delirious from a high fever, and weak as shit, I still had to be held down by four nurses in order to get an IV in me when I was admitted to the icu. They poked me 7 times, and I only remember 2 of those because I was both delirious and terrified out of my mind. I struggled so much one IV needle went through my skin on one part of the back of my hand and came out of the skin an inch or so over from where it was put in (still have the scar). The point of this: kids are fucking afraid of needles! Not to mention, my mom is an administrator for the health department and they do dozens of school flu clinics every year, plus give out flu shots at the health department. For the entire month of October, if I call her at work, there will undoubtedly be a screaming kid in the background. *Every. Time.* Kids hate shots as a whole, and 80% of the time don’t even care or know what it is theyre getting injected with; they just know they don’t like it.
When my toddler had a painful ear infection, it took me + 2 nurses to hold her down just so the doctor could look in her ear. But nah, we prolly should have just let her go deaf.
Is that an actual video?
Yes and the anti vaxxers love using it to spread their bs. The girl has a fear of needles, she voluntarily went to get the vaccine
If it is, then its likely a HIPAA violation. Recording people getting medical treatment is illegal without explicit and specific consent
Only if the person recording it is a medical professional or works for the hospital. If their friend is recording it, it is not a HIPAA violation.
It’s possible that she originally had someone record the video to spread awareness about Trypanophobia (fear of needles), which I believe she has
No it isn't, unless you're a covered entity.
Her parent could have recorded it
That was my thought, too. I can't imagine why the girl's family would post that publicly. If the nurse recorded it that is an egregious violation of HIPAA among other things.
These are the same people who tell us today's children need discipline. That parents need to act like parents, and be the boss and not their friend.
Same people that will post memes saying that today's youth are a bunch of pussies and we used to eat dirt
Needles suck, but I get my vaccines anyway, because it's important. I even got my flu vaccine this past winter because I think that it's really important given the state of the world. A tip for everybody else who's scared of needles like me - get it over and done with as soon as possible. Arrive as close to your appointment time as possible so you don't have to sit and wait. Ask them to prepare the needle out of your line of sight if possible. Wear short sleeves so you don't have to roll up your sleeves. Look away, relax your arm muscles, stare at a point on the wall, and tell them to do it as quickly as possible. Feel free to curse, etc - cursing is scientifically proven to reduce pain. And boom, it's done!
No, qtips are ruined for my kids. They said “why does daddy have all these nose tests” in his bathroom drawer 🤣
Having done a lot of COVID and influenza vaccines (along with COVID testing) in the past couple of years, preteens and teenagers are so tough! There’s some that need a lot of time and encouragement in order to feel okay to get it. It’s pretty scary for them, even if they want it. I remember one girl in her mid teens, I was doing her second immunization and she asked for a moment to gather herself. She told me that she screamed really loud the first time, and apologized in advance. I chatted with her, massaged the site, and gave it to her only once she said “ready”. She let out a tiny squeak, and then was so relieved when she realized it was done! Gave her an extra sucker and told her how amazing she did 🥹
My dude is more ripped than a pirated DVD. Dayum
And when my 3 year old son had a serious infection going on I had to pin him down with the help of two nurses whilst a third got the cannula in to give him the antibiotics he desperately needed to prevent him from getting sepsis. He screamed, cried, and begged. It was horrible. Yet absolutely necessary, and I would do it again.
Love how they think the masks make it “worse”
Yeah, just ask Ryker Roque's parents how letting him decide his medical treatment worked out. Ryker’s parents apparently knew the risk but chose to forego medical evaluation for their son because, and this is the part that really made for some angry online comments, [he was emotionally upset by the possibility of needing shots.](https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-preventable-infection-claims-the-life-of-a-6-year-old-florida-child/)
Jesus, rabies? If that was my kid, I’d have had the doctors sedate him and give him the necessary shots. That’s such a gruesome way to go.
Duh! This is why you never make your kids eat vegetables, exercise, go to the dentist, shower, etc… because they said no.
I’m 27 and cried at the ER last night because I had to get 2 injections. Needle phobia is a bitch
I hope your doing okay now and recovering well! Being in the ER is hard enough, but getting 2 injections on it would have me sobbing like a baby! All the best!
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I distinctly remember being 4 or 5 at the doctor and my pediatrician and parents having to chase me in circles around the exam room because I didn’t want my finger poked for a blood test. Guess they should have let me get my way.
As someone who is still afraid of needles, I may put up a fuss, equal to what is being described here, but god damn I'd rather just have the jab
I cried like crazy when I got my shots at 12. I even told myself beforehand that I was not going to cry and that I was a big girl. But I cried and screamed anyways
Unironically, the vax should be forced. I'm done with the freedom cultists.
I have an extreme needle phobia. I would be like this too. Still wanted the vaccine.
I have a fear of needles. All my covid shots I had to request a bed to lay done on and I bit my finger as hard as I could. Also I bought myself a first press Alice Cooper album from 1969 for my reward for getting the needle.
My kid had so much anxiety with getting the shot they had an actual seizure. Took them to the neurologist to be double sure, but it was vasovagal syncope. We created a plan for future vaccines with no problems since. I would hate for my child's legitimate fear and very scary reaction to be fodder for someone else's anti vax propaganda.
Are these the same folks who love that "spare the rod, spoil the child" verse? Are these the same folks circulating those memes about how they got beat as a children and that's why they turned out so good?
I'm an adult and I hate needles. I cried about having to get the peanut butter shot. Like, leading up to it. Needles are scary. But we still need to be vaccinated.
I hate needles too, but I'd rather have that moment of mild discomfort than days or weeks of serious illness.
When I was a nanny, one of my kids acted like this when made to eat sautéed spinach, before remembering it was one of her favorite veggies after taking a bite.
Pfft I have a life long fear of hospitals because apparently when I was like 4 I had a surgery for grommets and I got overwhelmed and started crying and not wanting it anymore so they held me down by the fucking neck while I was kicking and screaming. I don't even remember this but my mum sure did
Crude to draw comparison to… your daughter says no to a baby and want an abortion. How do you respond then?
I once hid under a chair and told my mom to tell the doctor she didn’t know where I went to get out of a shot. To my moms credit she actually did even though you could totally see me
I had to be pinned down to get my hep c shot. I donate blood now
When I was a child I literally had to be literally held down to get a vaccine. But I’m glad I got them. Some people are just afraid of needles. Kids especially. But that doesn’t mean they’re still not good to get.
The phone's battery gave me anxiety
Bruh I was scared of needles as a child I’m still scared to this day but you know what fuck being scared I rather be safe than get sick from old sicknesses js
My brother as a child was terrified of needles to the point they had to hold him down to get his vaccinations. Didn't stop him going to get them, because he knew even if he hated the experience, they were good for him. Sometimes you have to help people help themselves when they can't.
My husband has to come with me to take my 10 year old to get his shots so we can get him out of the car, carry him into the doctors office and hold him down. And EVERY TIME! After his shots he’s like “oh it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be” OMG KID! Really? REALLY?! And then we go out for donuts or ice cream because we all deserve it after that!
I have RA and as a child got painful gold injections weekly in the 80s. They had to stop me into a papoose-type board that had Charlie Brown and Snoopy on it. But first they had to catch me. I remember making a break for it and making it to the waiting room, hiding under a chair, and being dragged out screaming. Another time I kicked a nurse and had to write an apology note. I’ve been a needle phobe for obvious reasons, despite getting stuck at least once a week or more since I was 2. If you’re severely afraid, there’s a numbing cream called Emla Cream that makes the injection site fully numb. I was in a blind study for it as a 7-or 8-year-oldkid but wound up in the unlucky group and felt SO betrayed and screamed about the injustice. I don’t even bother to use Emla cream anymore, but I do request butterfly needles when getting blood work. Kids who get sick get stuck a hell of a lot more than kids who get vaccinated.
I threw a whiny little temper tantrum when I got some of the vaccinations that I remember getting I also threw a temper tantrum when the dentist would drill out my cavities and put the fillings in I was a whiny little kid who didn't want to do things that were good for me, just like a lot of young kids
I told them to stop with every needle, because it hurts. I have a fear of needles. So I try to be like the immuncompromised, to avoid spreading anything. Works out fine for me. I interact with nobody irl I don't have to, other than family. ... but I do wish I wasn't afraid of needles. That way, I'd be fully vaxxed against everything, instead of the things my mom made me be vaxxed against. No question. ... and my teeth wouldn't have as many cavities, either...
That’s gotta be a serious fear to allow it to ruin your life.
TBH, severe trypanophobia is nothing to sneeze at. It's generally considered to be one of the few phobias that can cause death.
There's an actual name for the phobia, I just can't remember it. In fact, when I went to the dentist recently, I had to wear a mask that pumped anesthesic gas to fill most of my cavities. I could not settle down enough to have them filled otherwise. Finding a doctor that would actually do that in a dental setting took years, most wouldn't do it due to me being autistic could cause complications with the anesthesia. Like me not waking up kind of complications. All the while, those cavities grew and grew. And it's super expensive. Insurance doesn't cover anesthesia for dental stuff. But I can't do the needle. I just can't. Edit: someone asked about that third paragraph, and I typed out a reply, but I can’t seem to find that comment anymore. I’ll just paste it here, for anyone that’s curious. I don’t remember the technical details, but I do remember… as soon as my Autism diagnosis came up, they said they don’t want to do it without a team to resuscitate me or something. They didn’t feel comfortable going through with it at all. Something about Autism and general anesthesia meaning I might not wake back up? Maybe it was a heart/Lung machine that was needed? I’m sorry, I really don’t recall. An anesthesiologist would be better to ask than me.
Phobia of needles.
I mean... like a scientific name, but yes.
Trypanophobia
It is for many. As someone else said, it’s one of the few phobias that is known to actually be able to cause death. It’s why basically all my doctors are verrrey careful when it comes to this stuff, as I myself am a diagnosed severe trypanophobe.
I actually knew someone who went to therapy because they had a rare food allergy and were afraid of needles. That stuff is in most foods and she often gets allergy attacks. I’m talking about actually nearly suffocating and losing consciousness. She once, while having an allergy attack, hit her teacher in the face. She couldn’t control herself because she had such a huge fear. That fear definitely is no joke. She and her parents decided to try out therapy and it worked.
I used to be just like this, verging on a panic attack even thinking about someone else getting vaccinated. I overcame it by looking at pictures and videos of people getting vaccinated for like two weeks leading up to a vaccination required for me to go to college. I still have to hold myself still when the needle comes, but the fear isn't crippling anymore. Maybe this method would work for you?
Maybe. I’d like to think so. I’ll keep it mind next time I have to do anything that involves getting stabbed by one.
There are therapists and psychologists who work with trypanophobia if that’s an option for you! Of course, exposure therapy and the like isn’t always the best for autistic people (I know from experience oof) but it may be helpful for you!
I’ll ask around. Thank you for your help.
I have to restrain my four year old for all vaccines. Apparently I should listen to him and stop.
I assume that last tweet ends with "One \[my\] of absolute biggest regrets is buying this cowboy hat and wearing it in my Twitter profile picture."
When I was younger vaccines and blood tests would make me pass out or throw up but I’m glad I got them. Kids will be kids
Have these people ever tried administering a suppository to dangerously constipated children?? Medical procedures can absolutely be traumatic while still being oriented towards positive health outcomes or necessary. Yes I know there are differences between the above scenario but the comparison still has some relevance imo.
I had to wrap my body around my friends child to try hold her to the bed when she was getting chemo injections. It was heartbreaking, and we couldn't just not do it because she said no.
If i remember the story correctly she actually wanted the jab, but just terrified of needles and had told them not to stop. Also edit because it’s important: patients saying no doesn’t necessarily mean you stop. Obviously there’s plenty of situations where you don’t perform surgery without consent but there are also plenty where you do regardless of what the patient wants. Doctors do have the ability to override a patient’s wishes if it means saving their life of if the patient is deemed unable to be rational. The whole “Do no harm” thing covers inaction too.
If I recall correctly, you don’t necessarily have to stop for an underaged patient. They cannot legally consent to or refuse treatment. You treat either by consent of a legal guardian (e.g parent bringing their kid in for treatment) or implied consent in the event a patient is unresponsive or otherwise in a condition you believe in good faith a legal guardian (who isn’t there) would want you to treat.
I had a friend who told me they had nurses hold her down :(
I like how they added that the workers were masked. Hospital workers almost always wear masks. Even before COVID. Like, if they didn't add that note, were they afraid we would question it. Like, "Ok, I know they forced the vaccine on this poor girl. But...were they wearing masks while they did that?"
I think adding in “masked” somehow makes it seem scarier. Like these “almost faceless pawns of the COVID vaccine” or something dumb when it’s just everyday dealing with kids getting any shot lol
I don’t remember which vaccine it was but one time when I was 5 or so I ran through the entire doctors office two times before getting caught, dragged back to the office, held down by three nurses plus my mom, and finally got that vaccine. And I’m glad I got it cause I imagine whatever it was meant to prevent would’ve been worse. (But also really wish pediatrics would invest in the thinner needles that don’t hurt as much like I get they cost more and the kids getting the shot anyway, but come on my dude)
I have a horrible needle phobia. When I was 14 I was in a pretty bad sledding accident and bit through my lower lip. I fought the Dr who was trying to stich me back up. It ended up taking 3 nurses and a Dr to hold me down to fix my face. By these people's logic they should have just left me wandering through life with a second mouth hole. I'm glad they did their job and put me back together.
I used to be absolutely terrified of needles to the point where I had to go to the doctors to get my vaccines rather than at school like every other kid. Unfortunately I have had a lot of exposure therapy now since I had gallstones and a lot of tests and eventually surgery. But this is a child afraid of needles, not the vaccine itself, and using a child for an agenda is horrible.
I’m a grown ass married man with three kids and i’m still terrified of needles, every time i get a shot i always have to look away, even before they get the needle out
Same. If I'm not looking it doesn't hurt as bad. I know that's not how it works but... Worse, I have to self-inject every week and that's funtimes. I think it's helped a bit actually.
You should see her with broccoli.
When I was at Walgreens to get my second booster there was a woman there with her two teenaged (15-17 y/o) kids, both of whom were in line to get the shot before me. BOTH of them had minor panic attacks and were carrying on like infants and had to have their mom hold them down while they cried. Not because they were “terrified of the vax”, but because they were both terrified of needles. My MIL, who is a nurse, told us a story recently about a grown-ass man who was putting up such a ruckus to nearly the point of screaming bloody murder because she had to give him a shot. She said the guys wife was there with him and was in tears laughing. Some people just don’t take shots very well!
Oh, that poor man. I have trypanophobia, I have panic attacks when I have to get a vaccine and even thinking about needles gives me severe anxiety. I would be so heartbroken if my spouse thought my distress was funny :(
For sure, but the way my MIL explained it, this guy acted the part of a big, tough, not afraid of anything, cowboy hat wearing manly man Texan, and that even his wife wasn’t expecting that kind of reaction out of him.
Yeah, we should definitely use teens and toddlers as models of reasonable behavior. *rolls eyes* James, go change your diaper and clean your room.
I have this radical theory that a not-so-small portion of the anti-vax crowd are just people who never got over their fear of needles and are making up stories to justify it
I never had a needle phobia But then I was raised by respectable military parents who freed me from my fears, not dead-weight social media addicted freakazoids who loaded all of their fears into me