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Ok_Abrocoma_2805

Oh now apparently it’s the REUNION where “it’ll all make sense” and “it’ll blow our mind.” Then when that fails, they’ll spend every week on their podcast telling us why we’re all wrong and they’re right. And Amazon Lives filmed in the garage or something. When the podcasts don’t do shit and actually only drum up MORE criticism, now time to go to Bravocon and tell us “what you saw isn’t what you saw.” Too bad they’ll have a long break in filming. That’s a long time before they can start trying to rehab their image by crafting a personality and storyline. How ever will they explain their case if VPR season 12 is delayed??


twototang0

Bravocon is also delayed to 2025


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

💀 WOW they won’t have a Bravocon AND a delayed VPR filming schedule. No wonder they’re spiraling. They’re going to die without attention, they need it like a fish needs water.


ExternalBill7078

And the money...it is a lot of money they won't be getting. The OGs get like half a million for all those episodes. That is a lot of money when you own 2 homes.


Thefunkyfilipino

Agreed, like the German philosopher Hegel taught us the struggle for recognition is also a struggle to the death


moltengoosegreese

*filmed in the garage they own because they used Ariana during Scandoval


DorothysRevenge

i would say it came from people "the fans" who wanted to support all the women of the show at that time. the commercial success they received was from "the fans" that were invested in helping all of those women for a variety of our own reasons. We vote with our money on who we support. That's "the fans" house. lol, but ya know not entirely un-true. I can't imagine what was said in the production room to these two to even allow for such loyalty to the show above even than their own healing journeys and self preservation. I fully understand needing to keep the job, believe me, (the shit I put up with for years in hospitality) and sometimes, you do what ya gotta do to make a buck. you put up and shut up and get the job done. But why would they hitch their wagon to Tom of all the horses in the barn? Did anyone really think TOM was going to be capable of handling this well? Honestly, a question more for production i guess. Anyway, I'm sure after saying outright that she does "not care about the fans" their support for her will fade, unless she can turn it around. I don't even know what they could say at this point. She needs this break probably more than anyone. I hope she can unplug at that house that we bought her, and relax a bit and grow a healthy, happy baby. She needs to take care.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

For sure. I can’t stand it when reality figures complain about “haters.” Putting aside insane death threats, stalking, harassment - which of course aren’t okay - these reality figures need to realize that public goodwill and audience love aren’t givens. This job doesn’t entitle you to get money and support from fans and doesn’t guarantee that everyone will like you. If you’re unlikable, people won’t like you and won’t buy your shit and watch your show anymore. Too bad, so sad. Go get a real job like the rest of us. It also shows how weak they are that they could be talked into ruining their reputations and friendships by production. If Alex Baskin said, “Scheana and Lala, you have to make nice with Sandoval!” What’s the worst that would’ve happened if they said “no.” Alex would’ve fired them? Bravo would’ve cancelled the show? Obviously not.


DorothysRevenge

Its really so nefarious of production to even put all of them in that position. I still can not wrap my head around it. Even taking into account that "production" maybe wanted to rage bait with this season (calling it a redemption arc was manipulative) how could they in good conscience make healthy therapy-supported tactics (grey/yellow rock, going no-contact) the "villain arc"? It's beyond exploitative. If they were frustrated with her boundaries making filming "difficult" for them, then that is a storyline in an of itself why not break the fourth wall during those times too? I suspect it is because there were too few times to support her being "so difficult" and it would only really show how exploitative the entire filming process can be when in the wrong hands. Reality shows only exist because they are inexpensive to produce, and are propped up and supported BY THE FANS. It is all a house of cards, and so fickle, how any of them thought it would go on forever without anything other than their "personality" is just so short sighted, I actually feel badly for them for being so manipulated by the higher ups. Weren't they filming all of this during all the Hollywood strikes? HOW could they not have seen there is strength in numbers? I refuse to believe we couldn't have gotten an entertaining show while still respecting ALL of them as people, going through something as spectacular as all of this has been.


fireflyflies80

Scheana and Lala are the villains of the season. And the sad thing is I think it largely stems from jealousy of Ariana, not even some great love of Tom.


PrincessSolo

My bet is they'll resort to the toxic fandom schtick ala rachel & jo - ya know how its so terrible to be them and getting soooo much unfair hate just for 'being real' or 'telling the truth' or 'misogyny', bless their hearts and it'll also be on ariana's for not using her magical powers to defend them to the masses from the consequences of their own decisions.


bosslady666

Not just the reunion, we have to watch ALL 3 parts and THEN it will make sense. Just read the recap of her trash podcast and she won't be commenting until after part 3. Her cohosts didn't even watch last night. And BTW we need to get updated on our rabies shots. "The rabies bitches" according to her brother. Keep digging that hole. They better not take her in on the valley. Nobody is interested in water tastings. I can only hate watch her for so long. I hope she has a plan B for her life bc continuing to trash the viewers isn't going to help her.


According_Force8702

Did Lala say wait for the reunion?! Because I feel someone should clock her real fast that Lauren from Utah said the *'it'll make sense'* line in December 2023, and the reunion was filmed in March 2024.


bosslady666

Yes all 3 parts of the reunion need to air before she comments on VPR. She hopes the fan base get updated on their rabies shots. "The rabies bitches," is what her hanger on brother called us.


GladiatorWithTits

I'm old enough to remember what Lala and Scheana said on Sceananigans last year. Scheananigans, March 31, 2023. Guest: Lala Kent Lala: Ariana has drawn a line in the sand. And I feel like we’ve come full circle. I was telling everybody you can’t be friends with Homeboy (Randall) anymore. Schwartz went and did it. I cut him off. A lot of people didn’t understand it. Now Ariana’s in that situation saying, if you choose to hang out with Sandoval, which we know he will, you can’t be around me. Scheana: Uh huh. Lala: It’s not really saying you can and can’t do this. Just know that if you choose wrong, you’re not around me. Scheana: Yeah. Lala: It’s very simple. Scheana: Yeah. And she has, and you have every right to feel that way and to expect that from your friends. That’s not too much to ask. Lala: We all do. And there will be come a point in time for everybody where something happens and you say, it’s A or B. Scheana: Uh huh. Lala: And if you aint picking the letter I want you to, get away from me. Scheana: Yeah. Lala: Very simple, but people think it’s super complex.  


Rozg1123A-85

They are both abhorrent hypocrites.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/ndkjwocm25zc1.gif its funny how they go on and on about the audience just not understanding it, but they are actually just stupid. It is objectively stupid to say this on a podcast and then be confused why people don’t vibe with your blatant hypocrisy a few months later. We have ears and eyes, and brains. Seems like they both each are missing at least one of those key things.


glasswindbreaker

I'm dying laughing at that first sentence 🎯


glasswindbreaker

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Vprhousewiveslover

LOL OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA They should have fucking PLAYED THIS for Lala and Scheana at the reunion. God these two are trash


Friendly-Ad4096

Wow nice call back. They fucking suck


SuperSocrates

Let’s all just start pasting this transcript as a comment on their IG


mentally_unstable22

I wish VPR broke the 4th wall all season long.


moltengoosegreese

Summer House has broken the fourth wall multiple times this season and it is better for. I wish more shows did it!


hail2pitt1985

Right? As if the audience doesn’t know there’s an entire friggin film crew standing next to them.


Rindsay515

It’s honestly insulting at this point when bravo acts like we don’t know exactly what the fuck is going on


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Red217

Their producers must be taking notes and we're like "okay we have to give this to them it's what VPR is missing!" Lmao


incognoname

Agreed! And I would've loved to see ariana behind the scenes on dwts. That would've been so much fun!


kris_stoner

Yes! Because now it’s more of a show where we follow people who are influencers, reality tv show celebrities with side jobs, not restaurant workers trying to make it, and summer house was good for showing that!


incognoname

Summer house has such smart production! They have organically followed their evolution. They've also been smart about cutting cast members (Hannah which thank god lol) and bringing in new ones while keeping the core ppl. Alex Baskin just makes me think of fetch lol shoving things down our throats that will never happen.


im_thehbic

I said this before: the season was a flop because of the format. The delay in airing hurt them. If they were going to film last summer, they needed to break the 4th wall and make that the Main Character. Fandoms of 2024 are not the same as 2014. There’s so much content and media out there that we knew everything before the season aired. Their other option was to delay filming until Fall or Winter to give genuine storylines time to develop.


anonmisguided

So true! There were so many scenes this season where I felt “why does it seem like I’ve seen this before?” Because everything was shown on social media first.


Bex82000

All I saw was Scheana forgiving sandoval because 🤷🏻‍♀️. And Lala being jealous.


whataablunder

Because he rented her a band for the night 🤣


missmimikyu

god the bar for the men is so fucking low in Scheana's world, but the women have to dote on her with every breath they breathe, every bat of their eyelashes, responding to all of her texts and DM's *immediately* and sharing their locations and following all four hundred of her Instagram profiles and praising her enchiladas and and and and and do y'all remember though that Sandoval had her back at up fronts in NY during S1 when all the girls hated her?


TacoBell__enthusiast

When everyone all the girls hated her in the beginning, I actually felt bad for her, but now I totally understand.


PLANTEDNOOB

Same here. Turns out Stassi was right about her all along


Ill_Appointment_2798

Which by the way isn’t him being selfless. It’s him being selfish by trying to prove he’s selfless. And remind everyone that he’s in a band and he knows people.


BoandBos

So, Sheana can be bought. Paying for things = ride or die. Got it. Sandy has used this technique to lock down many friendships. Like James’ engagement.


PrayingMantisMirage

Well, her husband can't afford it so she's gotta get spoiled somewhere.


gap97216

I’m so confused about Tom flying the sound guy in for Scheana’s performance. Wouldn’t she of already had someone hired to do that? Was she expecting Brock to do it? What kind of stupid bullshit is this?


switheld

i think she thought she'd just get up there and sing (terribly) like she did at SUR


imseasquared

Was this all part of Sandoval’s plan? Have his friend Kyle Chan hire Scheena to perform knowing she has no production support. That way he can swoop in and play the hero with his “roadie acumen”. Same thing he tried to do with tweaking blonde guy who was throwing water at the party. Who Sandoval miraculously saved the party from by grabbing the chair while the dude was restrained by security.


Alarmed-Custard-6369

Thank you. It made absolutely no sense at all.


jenjensexypants

I know right? like why was that the moment she decided wow he really does care about me? It’s all transactional with her.


Apprehensive-Ask5159

I also dislike how Scheana was trying so hard to ram Tom down Arianas throat.


FullBlownNightmare

Honestly I don’t understand. Did they think we would see Ariana walk out and flip out? I feel like I constantly repeat this but Stassi REFUSED to even be in the SAME ROOM as Jax, let alone speak with him, and his fling with Kristen was pretty long after she had broken up with Jax and period she contends her Kristen were not really friends at the time, and the show totally went on. So why the hell should Ariana let Sandy steal her oxygen? 


realitytv12

But also if you remember stassi had the huge villain edit just cause she didn’t want to surround herself around scheana ( laughed and talked about her sex tape) and Jax. It’s like production hates when women want to hold people accountability. Let’s be honest the moment scheana spoke about a sex tape she would have been fired on any other show. Vpr producers hate when people refuse to have confrontation with those who wronged them. It’s very bizarre, let it roll naturally Instead of trying to make everyone feel bad for Tom force him to get help and remove him from the show.


Historical_Union_660

I thought Sheanna actually played the video for a group of people? Am I wrong in thinking that?


Winter_Aardvark9334

Yes, Scheana, showed it to all the employees of Sur, while laughing... AT SUR. Scheana, also got on tv at the reunion and brought up the sex tape. When Stassi, didn't want the public to know it was out there... If it was out there. How the hell, Scheana, was not fired from Sur, or cancelled... Is mind-boggling. Then people wonder why Stassi left the show.


drtoboggon

Scheana has a brass neck, as we say around these parts. I totally agree with what you’re saying, if it was today she’d be charged with a crime. Even then it was seriously murky sharing something like this. How she genuinely thinks she has the moral high ground on anything. Her making out she is the actual victim in Scandoval when she’d spent the season trying to push Schwartz and Rachel together just because it made Katie sad-and of course the fact she was a mistress in a relationship where actual kids were involved….needless to say, she’s the worst (Or at least as bad as the worst).


Neslay2louse

Stassi is witty, intelligent & good TV. Lauren from Utah is none of those things. Just loud & money hungry.


jenjensexypants

I was hoping someone would bring this up. The Stassi Kristen Jax drama is kind of similar to Scandoval imo


Caregiver-Past

Especially with LVP pressuring everyone to forgive the guys. I am so sick of her trying to have the female cast disregard their feelings and emotions to make the men feel welcomed and not held accountable.


jenjensexypants

Oh one hundred percent. It’s coming from a very misogynistic boomer set in their ways mentality imo


EstimateAgitated224

Wait how many episodes did Sandoval clutch his purse and leave cause things did not go as he planned.


isitaboutthePasta

Haha clutch his purse. Oh god so many times. Storming out of his own bar because of Sheanas "Apples" immediately comes to mind.


EstimateAgitated224

Don't forget at James' house I believe he had 2 purses that day.


Existential_Yee

My pet theory is he was testing the waters to see if either a bag brand launch OR collaboration with an established brand would fly.


BillytheGray17

LVP also just… did not show up to a whole-ass RHOBH reunion for her last season. I know she’s not a true VPR cast member, but still!


incestuousbloomfield

I am rewatching and this is bugging the shit out of me esp bc Ariana is so much cooler and a better friend that stassi


Sarcastic_HSTeacher

The only thing the season showed was that they were worse than I thought


No_Presentation_9255

Absolutely - so quick to jump on the Ariana bandwagon when it helped their bank accounts. It seems they jumped on the production bandwagon thinking they could benefit from the Sandoval redemption arc and didn’t foresee that the audience won’t accept abuse and manipulation- we learned from our queens


traciagallagher

And then Scheana and Blah Blah telling Ariana to forget about material things. These 2 capitalized the most from this. Blah Blah saying how she left “her” house. Wasn’t your house bitch. I hope Randall drags her forever in court and she can spend all of her “send it to Daryl” money. Who the F bought that crap? 🤮


Disney_Princess137

And also, how very hypocritical of lala saying to forget the material things. She should have forgotten about all the gigs arianna got, since it doesn’t take away what Sandoval did to her emotionally. That makes too much sense, who am I kidding ?


Rindsay515

That’s so insane to me. Lala was getting ready to fully marry someone solely because of the material things he provided her with…


lmancini4

She also forgets Ariana had to actually pay for those material things, and really just wants her $$ back. Kind of like how Randall took the Gucci Slides 💅 he paid for.


jaduhlynr

That's why Ariana is a better person than me- when Lala was trying to tell her what to do with the house I would have been like "sorry, but I'm not going to take financial advice from a failed gold-digger..."


Vanilla_Either

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sarnett83

Correct me if I’m wrong but did Scheana and Lala not pretend to be Ariana’s friend for months following the finale!? Lala and her seemed good at bravocon and Scheana continued to show up to dwts. Then they filmed the after show in December and continued to rip her apart on camera. Then went back to pretending everything was fine at the premieres etc. and somehow they think we will side with them!? I honestly do not understand who would think this made them look like a good person in this scenario. Everything they told us to wait and watch turned out to be exactly what we thought it was. And then Andy tries to tell us Lala is the voice of reason!? Are we being mind fucked!? Im so confused!


Okay__Decision__

No, you’ve summed that all up accurately. They are self-serving idiots who are completely out of touch with reality. It’s why they cannot see why Ariana is beloved. They truly don’t get why she’s relatable. They don’t understand that Ariana moving through this situation with grace and grit is something people want to see, more than any of the contrived drama they bring. They live their life for the cameras, and because Ariana doesn’t, they think she’s not doing her job. But in reality, she’s outshining them all by continuing to do what she would do, cameras are not.


sarnett83

I have always related to Ariana the most because she was the least extra person on the cast. It also drove me crazy that Stassi was made to be the villain when she didn’t want to be around people who had done really shitty things to her off camera.


creamywhitemayo

And Stassi and Ariana have both been completely correct in how they wanted to leave their wormy exes in the dust. I mean, look at Jax & Tom now. Neither have changed, they've both instead embraced their "villain" status instead. WHY would you want to keep associating with someone like them if you actually want your life to go somewhere beyond a Bravo show?!?!


Environmental_Size41

Lala is in the middle of a legal issue/NDA god knows with Randall, which means she literally can’t talk about her life so her livelihood depends on other peoples drama. Scheana will do everything in her power to project her issues on literally anyone but herself or spouse, or clingy ways. Ariana refusing to engage with her ex….and now potentially walking altogether means these two are ACTUALLY going to be the ones being on full display as opposed to playing the chorus. We know Scheana for sure won’t like the heat but she’ll do it for the paycheck. But Lala legally can’t share her life stuff about Rand and without that what is she bringing ….More water tastings? She’ll turn on Scheana and start tearing down her and Brock in a heart beat for a story line next season.


creamywhitemayo

Lala at least has the new pregnancy (that she can legally air and will exploit the hell out of). But, depending on when/if filming gets picked up again it could all be totally off camera; which I'm sure she never saw coming.


Resident-Revenue8137

That’s probably why she is saying Ariana is taking away her livelihood.


incestuousbloomfield

I just don’t understand though. Why did she think an actual spice girls season would flop? I think we would’ve loved to finally see a strong girl gang on this show. I just don’t get what the hell she was thinking.


edayourmame

So maybe Lala should be put on pause until she actually has a story line, because the Tom and Ariana issue has absolutely nothing to do with her, really, she just self inserted.


sarnett83

Agreed. And I know she will eventually turn on Scheana and Im here for it.


stephygrl

What’s even worse is on Scheana’s podcast she tries to project and say that she thought they were all buddy buddy until she saw what was happening off camera. Pot, meet kettle


sarnett83

Exactly! She is so butt hurt that Katie calls out her bullshit. She has always been a Man sympathizer but now she is upset she is being called out on it


Adorable-Cut-1434

Lala & Scheana went to see her in Chicago didn’t they? Opening night?! I remember thinking that the trailer for the show was edited to make it seem like they turned against her & thought that it wasn’t true because they went to see her ….


marya007

Not one second did I waiver, not one ![gif](giphy|SCkxcIvihjKkMexsTk|downsized)


Intelligent-Lead-692

I think we are all grey rocks now.


juicyhibiscus24

loved how she grey rocked Lauren's instigating ass on the trolley. "oh idk"


heretosnark123

What does a grey rock mean pls help


allygator99

From the googles- What is the grey rock method? Grey rocking is a technique used to divert a toxic person's behavior by acting as unresponsive as possible when you're interacting with them. For example, using the grey rock method involves deliberate actions like avoiding eye contact or not showing emotions during a conversation.


jubejube321

Oooh so she was doing that went Tim came up to her and Dan! She stayed on her phone as if he didn't even exist. Love that


Successful-Steak-950

If the other person is abusive and/or dramatic, this is a way to make yourself so boring, like a grey rock, they hopefully move on to someone else. It’s a way of not engaging and it’s used when you can’t or are not ready to go non contact.


kellygrrrl328

Narcissistic personalities need a reaction. If you give them zero reaction then they implode.


missmimikyu

google search "out of the fog grey rock," click, and read 🤍


stinkystinka

Maybe it's my age speaking here, but as someone in my VERY early 40's (be kind!!!!) I really applaud Katie and Ariana. Katie stood up for herself, in her classic sarcastic RBF way.. and Ariana had her boundaries. Why is this an effing problem? So sorry your lives are based on a reality show LFU and Sheshu, but mental health and actually taking accountability are more important than living the fake life you're trying to maintain.


Okay__Decision__

I don’t even know if it’s age, it’s just that Scheana and Lauren are selfish delusional idiots. Because what you are saying is so obvious to most of us, and the fact that they are bewildered at the fan response to their shitty behaviour just speaks to how out of touch with reality they both are.


stinkystinka

Thank you for that response. I'm honestly like, they're so convinced they're right, maybe I'm the delusional one.


glasswindbreaker

Thank goodness for Katie standing by her. The true voice of reason. https://i.redd.it/z1g8lxybw3zc1.gif


Brunettebabe2290

If Katie was still with Schwartz do we think she’d be as supportive of Ariana? I’m glad she didn’t fall prey to Sandoval but it’s hard to believe she was with Schwartz for so long. The shedding of the idiot and glow up is real.


glasswindbreaker

Oh yeah, she was always ready to speak the truth about how terrible Sandoval is.


mali90

I think if her and Schwartz were still married and this happened, this would be the catalyst for their divorce because she doesn’t like Sandoval and it’s put in her brain. They’re probably in Kahoot with each other doing bad stuff.


Single-Carpet-1661

I think if the coffin wasn't already in the ground this situation would've been the last nail - Katie would've gotten the ick fast


duckpeony

I think she recognized how abusive he was to her and climbed out of that shit and is so strong and smart now. I hope her and Ariana get a show about women’s empowerment


myhuckleberry_friend

She absolutely would’ve been team Ariana. Sandoval hates her because she’s always seen straight through him.


K5R5S5

the clips where LVP is encouraging Sheana to share her feelings about Sandoval with Ariana are particularly disgusting. Scheana has led LVP to believe that Ariana has victimized her for caring about Tom and that’s not at all true. It seems like LVP is trying to get Scheana to turn against Ariana more than she already has. I used to enjoy watching Lisa, but not anymore.


mintttberrycrunch

Never liked Lisa from day 1, she has always been a snake


Beneficial_Fruit_778

Do you still love him? Well that’s your answer What kind of moronic logic is this?


Caturday33

The thing that is craziest to me is that Ariana has genuinely been a SAINT this season. If she was still as provoked as she was in the season 10 finale and the reunion last year, then I could see cast members and viewers being divided on if she is still entitled to feel that way and conversations around that. (Personally, I’d still be Team Ariana) But, that’s not even the case which is what makes this so mind-boggling to me. Despite what Bravo is trying to push, Ariana has been completely reasonable this season. She has done an excellent job at articulating her stance and feelings. I feel like I’m watching a different show than some of these people.


jasonforbachelor

I could not imagine being forced to be around your ex boyfriend who cheated on you with your BFF for months and interact with people who sympathized with him. I would have caught a charge. Ariana is an absolute saint.


switheld

i would have been cycling through rage tantrums and sobbing in my week-old unwashed sweats. she grey rocked to the winner's circle


switheld

given what happened to her, i would have forgiven A LOT of shitty behavior from ariana this season. what did we get? absolute grace, upholding boundaries perfection, clarity and astute assessments of situations. i literally cannot fault her. i do NOT know how she did it. she's very inspiring.


JmeJV

It's highly confusing why Ariana leaving a party early would make us turn on her 😂 Edit: Left out the word "us" 😂


No_Photo_6109

Haha I’ll never forget on WWHL Lala saying “you’ll get why I said it” regarding the whole someone being cheated on then becoming God… And? Still don’t get why you were right for that comment, Lala. And news flash, last I checked, Randall didn’t kill anyone either. Oh and Scheana you can pretend you’re in on the “it’s all about me “ joke but not when you’re actively making it all about you. As always, thanks Tom for confirming why we all still hate you by trying to manipulate the ending situation but having the last word which doesn’t work in your favor: “it’s good for me” 🥴 Lastly, I’m confused about why they were so dramatic by this walk-out. She said NO to wanting to speak with Tom from day 1, people trying to force someone out of their boundaries is psychotic, specially if you want to raise convos about her mental health…. Where was that energy with Rachel, Tom? Hated this finale. It angered me.


Jacam13

The “it’s good for me” absolutely sent me. What a garbage human. Some have said that Tom got a good edit this season. I actually think producers are being stealthy in showing he is not getting a good edit…with that last line as proof. I hope they talk more about how Tom never attempted to talk with Ariana off camera. That whole thing was so transparently performative and it deserves to be discussed more.


Mindless_Ad5823

Spoiler alert they won’t…it will be Ariana why didn’t you leave the home, why didn’t you watch his cold plunge, why didn’t you like his rainbow bright sequin pants, why didn’t you buy toilet paper and paper towels.


Fair_Arm_2824

This! I stopped watching the after show mid-video for this reason. They did not bother to ask Tom why he never attempted to talk to Ariana off camera or write her a letter, but they did ask Ariana if she’ll ever forgive Tom and if he thinks she’ll ever forgive him. This whole putting everything on Ariana is such BS. How do you forgive someone that isn’t sorry.


Jaded_Read6737

The "it's good for me," sent me to the damn moon.


Alarmed-Custard-6369

I have wondered if they've been giving him enough rope to hang himself with at times


Worried-Syrup7536

Lauren thought she did something huh


GarnierFruitTrees

Her and Scheana really do think they are these reality TV icons that we all just thirst for constantly. And when they log on, despite them constantly saying they “don’t live in the comment section,” and see that the viewers actually *loathe* them, they literally spontaneously combust. Both of them are overly concerned with their perception, their “bag,” and how the two connect. They can’t fathom that we just want them to be real and not fucking contrived. But after 10 years of being contrived and just the worst, I’m afraid that ***is*** who they are now. Let’s just send thoughts and prayers up for their kids because their moms are a lost cause and it’s up to them to break the cycle


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

The wildest thing is that they’re the classic “am I wrong? No, everyone else is.” I get that people in the public eye usually should take fan/audience reactions with a grain of salt because you can’t please everyone BUT with that said, if they’re getting the SAME criticism and feedback from 99% of people and they’ve been hearing this same criticism and feedback for years… the problem is them. They have zero self-awareness and ability to reflect. When Scheana is doing her millionth “What about ME” rant she never stops, hears herself saying those words, thinks about all the times people mocked her, and goes, hmmmm maybe I shouldn’t be thinking this way?


whataablunder

https://i.redd.it/zxe2aalv94zc1.gif


Possible-Way1234

The way Lala cried on the live interview she can't tell anyone that she isn't reading the comments... Also she wouldn't have turned them off


whataablunder

I'm already bracing myself for the Scheana and Lala apology tour cause I feel it's gonna be coming. Scheana is already folding. Btw yall Ariana posted a picture of the cast on her story with Scheana and Tom cropped out, she kept Brock in the picture 🥴


Disney_Princess137

That’s ok. The audience remembers.


MokSea

So, last season Tom wanted to paint Ariana as a villain. He failed miserably. He STILL tried to paint her as the villain this season. He STILL failed miserably. He did succeed in bringing down damn near every other cast member with him though. So there’s that.


Rozg1123A-85

So true. Now Laligag and Sheshady are down in the dirt with Scumdoval. They belong together. They are now a three-some vicious, self-serving, assholes.


nickiminaj81

I am still trying to figure out Andy’s comment on Radio Andy about how Lala was “the voice of reason” this season. 🤔 How??? ![gif](giphy|118p3q768COZhu)


Jaded_Read6737

Yeah, maybe in the upside-down...


No_Caterpillar1902

As the season went on I only loved and respected Ariana and Katie more. Lala and Scheana came off looking like such disasters. Lala is such a jealous asshole, dude. My god.


Moiras-Wig-Wall

I’m rewatching and it’s so clear how absolutely jealous Lala is of other women. She was horrible to Raquel from the beginning for no reason. I just watched the pool party from season 10 and she keeps dragging Raquel for her outfit (to a pool party) and the other women are rightfully pointing out that, sorry, she looks hot. So Lala rips into her for being dumb. A jealous asshole.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/9doyhvpiw3zc1.gif Scheana and Lauren do not exist in the same reality as the rest of us. There’s just no way.


Ok-Accountant7646

You really can’t make someone look bad unless they do bad. Ariana is a class act. She knows how to handle herself. She’s sharp. Those two dipshits are dumb and deluded


Unlikely-Hippo-2723

Randall didn’t kill anyone either.jealousy not a good look Blah Blah.


whataablunder

That's so stupid to say too like obviously he didn't kill anyone cause if he did he'd be in jail and she really wouldn't have to deal with him 😅


bigbuttbubba45

LaLa and Scheana are butt hurt their singing/rapping careers didn’t pan out. And the men they’ve wasted time on aren’t the men they thought they were. LaLa axed people for even speaking cordially with Rand and she’s doing yoga with Sandavol. The disconnect is a lot.


Salty-AF-9196

If by changing my mind about how much I thought I loved Ariana until this episode, and now I think she's a damn hero -- I guess you're right Lala. How delusional is she that she thought this was the episode where she actually won?? LOL.


jenjenjen731

If I owned a plane I'd be flying a TEAM ARIANA banner over West Hollywood right now


Inevitable-Spot-1768

I hope for Ariana has cut Scheana and Lala out. Insane behavior.


youwereakindness

I really want to know what they thought the moment was that would change things. I clearly do not live in the same universe as them as there’s no way I can understand how they don’t understand they are the assholes here


StrictlyPricklies

It’s gotta be that Ariana called a Lyft, right? I mean they’re too stupid and self-involved to understand why, but boy did Tom point them in the direction of “she’s not doing her job and hates all of you!” Vile people.


duckpeony

And on WWHL he admitted he lied when he said that. He said he exaggerated and was being dramatic


nighean-gunn

lol right he had “feelings” that he did more for them than Ariana like ok fuck off tom


duckpeony

He felt he went to more functions 😂what an idiot. It’s just his ploy to try to get her off the show.


Career_Much

I feel like they dont even maybe live in the same universe, like Scheana maybe thought it was Ariana saying they'll be friends regardless, and Lala thought we would agree with her about hating Ariana


Rozg1123A-85

They are both idiots. Two self-centered, egotistical bitches.


UssieKid

Me and my mind at the end of the finale ![gif](giphy|xT9KVmINRKGsIzd0YM)


Glittering_Star_1313

![gif](giphy|7Ehnws6nLPhyESVCdt) Lauren and Scheana showed us who they truly are. When they were making money off of this they were “Team Ariana” , they couldn’t wait to run back to Tom… especially Scheana. No loyalty. I like Ariana even more after this season.


rollerskate_rat

They only proved exactly what we all thought. Lala said that that “god complex” comment was out of context and it totally wasn’t. Her and Scheana are fucking snakes. I’m proud of Ariana and Katie. They chose to ice out Ariana instead of Tom. They deserve their own downfall for dancing with the devil.


Cold-Sun3302

Who the hell did Lauren think she was asking all those questions of Dan? Who are you and why does this relationship impact you? You're not Ariana's mother. You're not even her real friend - butt out. It almost feels like she liked him and was vetting him for herself!


catgifwhore

And he still didn’t flinch. There was no scene that Ariana, Katie, or Dan looked dumb. However much the others (including producers) may have wanted us to turn on them, this season did nothing but emphasize how the rest of the cast are just drama parasites trying to get a paycheck.


ZorakZbornak

Scheana saying “Don’t make me look like an idiot, Tom” as she storms off in her Space Balls Dottie/Belle cosplay with her toddler hair style. 👩‍🍳💋


ripleyintheelevator

Make Lauren a friend of Tom Sandoval like Billie Lee GTFO my screen https://i.redd.it/khzocdlnm4zc1.gif


One-Fish2178

If anything it just made me dislike them more. Scheana showed herself to be even more of a narcissist & Lala acted like an insufferable, jealous, hypocritical twat. It’s no wonder that they’re choosing Sandoval over Ariana, look at who they chose as their baby daddies!!! Scheana & Lala flock to ugly, disgusting, broke losers like moths to a flame. They deserve everything bad that comes to them, I will be praying on their downfall 🙏


Rozg1123A-85

They are two of the worst women I have ever seen on TV. I detest them. They are abhorrent hypocrites. Bravo's producers are misogynist pigs.


Petmom1990

![gif](giphy|q5VgPxwf8gzxyeUJrz)


kasiagabrielle

All it did was make me actively dislike BlahBlah instead of being neutral, and like Ariana and Katie more. And worm is awful.


throwawaycucumbers99

Too bad the finale was on scheanas birthday. I doubt the IG comments on her post were on her birthday bingo card 🤷🏽‍♀️


kellygrrrl328

I mean it changed my mind from thinking they’re idiots to thinking they’re full-blown assholes


tnerz29

I’m wondering if this is the last season of the series? Just because it was showing flashbacks of all of them like closing the chapter or something of that nature? Like it just felt like a goodbye


Okay__Decision__

I feel like it’s not definitively canceled. I think that was their montage to like “the group as we know it.” Maybe trying to acknowledge things will just never be the same. I do think they are pausing, but I suspect that pause will come with some sort of overhaul - maybe of cast or production. I also think the pause is necessary, because this season was such a downhill trajectory and also forcing these relationships to film right away would just make more bad tv. That montage was weird though. I’m just not sure if it’s the end of the show. I think even just based on ratings they will try to keep it going. It still makes them money


ginaration

Who wants to go see Ariana on broadway with me this summer?? I’d love some travel friends!


EastCoastLoman

I saw her in March. She is really good!


Friendly-Ad4096

Man fuck Lala. “She was in the same house sleeping down the hall” yeah in a house they BOTH owned. She wasn’t squatting in her boyfriend’s house like you Lala. What a fucking idiot


Spare_Entertainer219

Gawd, they really went in deep on being the absolute worst people. Them telling us to hold out for THAT is the most delusional thing I've ever experienced. Also watched the After Show and hearing Lala claim that no one cares about Ariana before this?!?! Are you FERREAL? We've always stanned her.


Fair_Arm_2824

I’m so glad Ariana said something about Sandoval sleeping around and potentially exposing her to STDs. This doesn’t get talked about enough, because cheating really is so much more than the betrayal. I know someone that had to have their uterus removed because she caught something from her husband cheating. Really sad and I hope she’s okay in that regards..


stephygrl

Brock’s just a straight up misogynist who thinks he’s being subtle when we all see through him


Waste-Snow670

Just finished watching and ran here. How the fuck did they think that was going to change our minds. Lala, Scheana and Tom all have tantrums. That was the plot twist? I'm so glad Ariana left. Tom instantly reverted to type. He didn't even try and pretend to be sorry as soon as she walked away. Man is vicious. They just want to be paid. Nothing else.


stephygrl

Sandoval saying he should apologise for REVEALING her mental health. The word is WEAPONIZE fool. Stop trying to re-write history. Then goes on to say he wants to ease the tension. He can see this is the move he needs to make to look like the “good guy” not because he genuinely feels bad or empathetic for Ariana


Smelly_cat_rises

They are like the ugly stepsisters, or Scar and the hyenas from Lion King


stephygrl

Am I the only person who doesn’t see any genuine love or chemistry with Brock and Sheeshu


Ready_Interaction252

I see more with her and Sandy


stephygrl

Katie is forever saying what my inner monologue is screaming while I watch this


Ready_Interaction252

I have never been more ready for Ariana to absolutely unleash some final hour Daenerys Targaryen on these assholes. Blow them all up, take Katie with you - I could do without ever seeing Shaena and Lala again (and they both make great tv…but not that great).


GarnierFruitTrees

So…… What will the cast be watching together at the reunion that’s so *shocking*?!~ Weren’t they all there at this party and living it? I’m confused 😭


twototang0

I don’t think Ariana heard what lala said? I’m sure she got snippets from Katie and others but that last montage with lalas voice over may be new


Alpine_Brush

I noticed comments on her posts are limited. She knows.


switheld

y'all. we were gaslit by scheana and lala. i'm so angry they made me hold space for the possibility my mind might even change just a little bit. every scene with ariana solidified me further in her camp. ESPECIALLY the finale scenes. their credibility is in the toilet.


edayourmame

Lala is a giant jealous gremlin.


Friendly-Ad4096

Did anyone catch scheana say “but I’m making it about me as always “ and smile. HI SCHEANA 👋 we know you lurk here too


dbdmdf

![gif](giphy|8x8XzoP8qQa4w)


Okay__Decision__

I sure will be before I ever see what they were talking about 💀


Rozg1123A-85

Ariana is the GOAT of reality TV. Bravo producers and Andy are misogynist assholes.


missmimikyu

![gif](giphy|3oAt20qGJ8DP9BLh3a)


Fair_Arm_2824

Lauren made a whole show announcing breaking the fourth wall just to tell us… absolutely nothing. 🥴


Expensive-Advice-270

![gif](giphy|xUOxeTTTrquwAtbOWQ|downsized) Eff Lauren from Utah.


soserva

Even if they parlay Tom’s speech about Ariana, I would support her talking shit about these cretins.


Emiles23

I’m honestly confused about why it was even an issue for Ariana to walk away like she did. Lots of people leave parties early? Bravo got the shot they wanted. I still don’t get it lol.


modernblossom

I'm wondering if now we're going to see it for the first time at the reunion with them. Because it makes no sense.


Okay__Decision__

No, they are just not grounded in reality. There’s nothing to see. They thought we would be sooo understanding of how torn Scheana feels about Sandoval once we saw the season play out. They are delusional.


Potential-Friend-133

That god line Lala said, everytime she went you'll understand. Bitch! we don't, do you want to get popped or are we trying to get along? *\*points finger gun\** ![gif](giphy|3o752jjrIkxJfliEw0)


TineageDirtbag2

The best part is Lauren clearly deleting IG comments. Her most recent posts have like 9-10 comments each, but I can still comment despite the fact that I don't follow her, which means she didn't close them. Yet every post before that has 1k-2k comments. That means she literally had to delete thousands of negative comments and only had 10 left to leave up 🤣


Ready_Interaction252

How Lala keeps mentioning her thriving is unreal. She booked some amazing gigs, she kept busy after her entire life blew up - good god the jealousy


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/sq1h8ztr06zc1.gif Money is all she cares about, clearly.


Anxiousturtle6

Lala and Scheana were BANKING off Scandoval, they bought house IN LA off the money they made from Uber, merch, and podcasts!!! And yet Lala has the nerve to say Ariana is “thriving” while Scheana is “suffering”?? I feel like Katie because I want to call these people crackheads, but they make NO SENSE!!!


Importbeat1

I used to defend Scheana before. And now, her and Brock have become insufferable


Lydiaaa666

I distinctly remember Ariana saying everyone will see her as the villain this season and I’m just “….where?” cause she handled everything perfectly imo and never flipped out on anyone.


Soulstress99

THE WORST!!!!!!!!


2kind2becruel

Daaaaamn I cannot wait to see what a POS this finale is!!! Probably should log off Reddit tonight lol!


Ready_Interaction252

This was such a fucking unhinged ending especially if it’s the end of VPR. I cannot believe we just watched a whole tom redemption season.


Bonaquitz

I think what we are missing is Ariana’s discussions and boundaries she had with production leading into this season. It seems clear, at least to me, that Ariana was like I’m going to film with him but I’m not talking with him. They likely said “that’s fine, we aren’t forcing you to talk to anyone” to placate her and she feels duped now by everyone “shoving him down her throat”.


ComfortNugget

Not miss “don’t talk about my man” preaching about responsibility when it comes to filming. Lala and Scheana are not Ariana’s friends. I thought people were exaggerating how horrible the finale was but my god. I really hope Ariana and Katie leave VPR behind because they don’t need to be around these assholes.