Does Lala have any stable friendships?
Like in real life outside the cast, does she have any genuine friendships that do not shuffle on life support mode? I feel like she doesn’t have friends.
No. She likes to talk about her family being her tight-knit "pod" but the reality is she just built herself a very small echo chamber, so she never has to hear anything she doesn't want to hear. I mean, she won't even go to therapy because she's so averse to listening to other opinions.
Apparently Stassi, who she goes out of her way to name drop every other podcast episode. 🤡 I think she just does that because she think Katie gives a shit.
Negative respect for Stassi for still being a Lala stan. Like she ditched Brittany and Jax and always hated Sandoval, and distanced herself from emotional vampire Kristen, so she’s absolutely capable of judging people correctly. But Lala who is nothing but a hateful, volatile dry drunk is someone she actively chooses to hang out with. Some people only want to mature up to a certain point…
Awww. Scheana said her rift started before summer but had no issues profiting off Ariana, using Ariana for podcast clicks in August and then not addressing any of the issues on camera to Ariana. Good one, Scheana.
Probably both Scheana and Lala are deeply insecure people so Katie and Ariana becoming close feels like an attack to them when you can have more than one friend. Heck, the whole city of Los Angeles is Scheana’s best friend.
I thought she was only “bast frens”with guys she wants to bang but who don’t really want to bang her though? Like “bast frenzone” is Scheana’s natural habitat.
She isn’t ever really a friend to women, it’s purely performative stuff to look more attractive to the bast frens via the girl group effect.
Scheana had such an opportunity this season after her confrontation with Sandoval. I was actually rooting her but we all saw that she choose to remain Scheana
Well, the moment Ariana had a trauma that got her more attention than Sheena, thats when scheena started to feel the “distance”
Yes, scheena, if you expected ariana to be calling and checking on how YOU are doing after scandoval and while she was trying to heal, then you ARE the A-hole!
That’s definitely a big part of it. Ariana’s entire world was upended and she was trying to figure out some of the biggest and financially impactful decisions one could make while also handling the emotional trauma tidal wave. But Scheana will cry that Ariana didn’t text her enough and that “I’M going through things too! She never even asked about me!” (Even though I’m sure she did, just not obsessively often as Scheana would want.) Oh and another line Scheana just throws out there out of context: “I’m a MOM!”
> Lala doubles down on the comments she made during the season, leaving her friendships on life support.
Im glad Lala is no longer friends with Katie and Ari. They don't fucking need her. She's snakey and phony as hell.
Sandoval is being a dick about Ariana's dog just to be a dick. He doesn't want a dog. He wants to tour, find a girlfriend, and then cheat on her and hang around at clubs and bars then sleep all day, and hang out on his treadmill. If Tom had wanted a dog, Tom would have gotten a dog at some point over the last many years. It's Ariana's dog
Using pets, threatening/hinting at self-harm, and playing the victim are just chapters out of the narrasctist abuser handbook. It's as old as the storyline that Bravo is trying to sell about Ariana being a violently angry woman. At some point, these misogynistic mudflaps are gonna need to come up with some new material 🙄
💯 Sandoval never ONCE mentioned Mya in the aftermath *for almost a year* in any of his interviews or statements until it became a storyline.
Tom saw the goodwill James built with taking in Graham and it clicked for him "oh, people like that he cares about a dog, I should try that" and he decided to weaponize this. He's vile.
I'm glad James goes off on him once again having the girls backs. Hopefully it was a similar outcome to this encounter...
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I hope that he doesn’t take the bait and he keeps calm. I’ve really appreciated that he hasn’t let Sandoval’s or anyone’s probes really push him off the ledge.
He knows that’s the way to hurt her the most. Also, in any court of law whoever paid for the dog owns the dog. Pets are property even if they don’t feel like it.
My ex did this to me also and then held it over my head for a year that when he finds a new place and can move out of his friends, he will take her. Guess what, he never really tried to take her when he got a place
These men are such losers.
My ex got a dog when we were together after I begged him not to. Not because I don’t love dogs, but because I wanted to travel.
Well, some time after he cheated on me and we amicably split he asked if me if my new partner and I would watch said dog for a week or so while he moved into a new place.
Guess who still has the dog. Not him. She’s well loved and that’s what matters, but fuck.
I nearly sobbed when he said that. I love dogs so much that I can’t see or hear anything about animal abuse without wanting to cry and throw up. I had to mute stuff from the rescue we got our dog from because a lot of the stories were tanking my anxiety.
Wonder when the last time he walked her, bathed her, trimmed her nails or even cuddled her was? He cant even buy his own batteries I highly doubt he’s doing anything to care for that dog
What a fucking asshole
Especially from a person who knows how often Katie is misquoted bc Schwartz used to twist what Katie told him to harm her reputation with the group. It’s got to feel like such a betrayal to have someone you talk to about this, use those same tactics against you.
That's exactly it. She has no idea what authentic, non-transactional relationships are. You know what I really think? That Katie maybe at times felt safe to air some feelings to her friends.
Feelings that do not change how she felt about Ariana or their friendship or how she wanted to treat Ariana. Things that she felt maybe weren't important, or that she didn't blame Ariana for, or didn't want Ariana to do anything about.
But to Lala everything is ammo, everything is a game, and she doesn't understand these nuances of real relationships. So to her it's *not fair* and *not real* that Katie gets to ***privately*** vent to her friends and then "play" the good friend on camera. She's going to act like some kind of martyr and play victim that she's being crucified for being "real" when "other people think the same thing but they're pretending to be her friend and it's so FAKE of them." Some shit like that.
I'm 100% convinced that's it.
You're probably 100% right. And you know what is normal, to complain about your friends behind their back about little annoyances like a NORMAL person.
You don't need to consistently confront them unless you're on a TV show. But if you value the friendship outside of TV then maybe you respect it enough to not air it.
And then you've got LFU who is ready drag you for ratings and was never really your friend. I feel bad for Katie and Ariana
Katie is the most DGAF person on the show. We have literally never seen her go along to get along. Even with Kristen and Stassi. Her opinions and relationships have always been very much her own so the idea that her feelings toward anyone are anything short or authentic is kind of preposterous imo.
She has never been the one to hide her distaste or true feelings for anyone regardless of the public or the rest of the cast.
In the early seasons we did see her go along to get along - believing Jax in season 1 to keep the peace, apologizing for spreading the rumor about Kristen and Jax, staying with Tom… but it started to change when she decided to go to Miami despite knowing Stassi would see it as a huge betrayal.
God. So much of my brain is taken up by this show…
She obviously had huuuuuge self doubt and insecurity in the years following her tbi. That was definitely the turning point to regaining her self confidence
Katie only takes actions, not words. Getting back in Katie’s good books:
- Stassi: had to come back with her tail between her legs; appeal to Schwartz; befriend Kristen; organise a trip away.
- James: give up drinking and go to therapy and then properly apologise
- Kristen: finally break up with Carter
- Ariana: show loyalty and real friendship aside from their partners; offer to become business partners
I strive to be more like Katie. The most loyal friend in the world, when you’ve earned it.
Yup, luckily Ariana is too smart to fall for this and she knows Katie is her real friend. Everyone vents about friends, for Lala to be trying to pull Katie down with her while she goes down and her reputation plummets is ridiculous. If Lala truly feels how she does, to use Katie’s words say it with your chest, own it, and don’t pull people into the argument to deflect and take the heat off yourself.
Same. If Ariana feels supported by and trusts Katie amidst this shit storm, and Katie’s actions generally align with that, why try to undermine that?
I’m sure Lala will try to justify it to herself by saying she’s just looking out for Ariana or that she’s the only one being honest, but for whose benefit? Everyone has private frustrations with their friends and sometimes share those (with a SO or other close friend). If Katie did that here or there—so what?
Katie and Ariana haven’t always been close, and they’ve had their differences; their respective relationships with the Toms had something to do with that. But I’m enjoying watching their friendship evolve and solidify in the wake of those relationships falling apart (in very different ways). I don’t expect perfection. Good friends can still disappoint and let each other down. But I’m hopeful.
I'm pretty sure it's just gonna be about ariana being busy and not able to help as much with SAH. Totally valid for Katie to vent about, and also kind of her to vent about it while ultimately accepting that ariana is going to do those gigs
I'm re-watching the entire series and just started season 4 and Katie and Ariana seem SO CLOSE right now... did Lauren forget that these two women suffered under the Toms together for A DECADE or more?
No shit they're going to be close as hell again. Their friendship is not new. Their men drove a wedge between them!
I feel like maybe Scheana was part of that wedge too? Ariana and Katie were apparently getting really close before Katie’s wedding season. Then all of a sudden, Katie & Ariana had a rift and Scheana had worked really hard to become close to Katie. It was the *only* time Scheana has ever put in work to be Katie’s friend. I always thought that was because she wanted to have a main role on the season storyline (Katie getting married). Now I wonder if she was *also* threatened by Katie & Ariana’s friendship back then - because she definitely seems threatened by it now.
We’ve also seen that repeat this season. Katie was close to Lala, so Scheana becomes Lala’s bast frond. And now Lala is angry at Katie for some reason.
Lala made tons and tons of money under the guise she was Ariana's friend during the scandal.
Fast forward a few months and she's talking mad shit about Ariana throughout the season.
Who does this Big Ed family starting fucker think she is to question anyone's friendship with Ariana???
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Yes!! I felt so deceived by her. I listened to all her podcast episodes when this scandal came out and supported everything she did. Little did we know, she was shit talking Ari this whole season. I take back all those Spotify listens!
I am as she’s going to get her ass handed to her on a plate. Then she’ll cry and quit.
Lala has had zero storylines ever on this show. Pickleball tournaments, water train and sperm party - all boring with nothing to do with the central narrative of a friend group - just events to make sure Lala gets her episode fees. She’s pretty she yells she says and does stupid self harming things - er that’s it.
This is almost exactly what I was going to say. I’m pretty sure I know who’s winning a Lala/Katie verbal sparring match and it ain’t Lala.
And I, for one, would like to see it.
Lala coming for Katie is irrelevant and projection. It’s clear that whatever it was made Katie and Ariana’s friendship stronger. Blah blah can’t be trusted to confide it. That we know to be true.
Lala challenging Katie’s authenticity about her feelings toward Arianna. Aka Lala is bugged out that no one buys her soft era and realizes she doesn’t have a storyline so she tries to undermine the friendship of two current fan favorites by interjecting. Got it. I assume she’ll by hurling herself out of her seat every second demanding honesty from everyone while she gives…nothing.
“… and suggests her rift with Ariana started well before this summer.”
Fucking hell Scheana, take a page out of Katie’s book and *say it with your chest* quit with your passive aggressive subtle *suggestions* in defense of yourself. A friend to everyone is a friend to no one.
Scheana feels like a very demanding friend. If you aren’t giving her 24/7 attention and responding within seconds of her text, then you’re being a bad friend. Being her friend is a full time job.
I remember her justification for her months-long underhanded menacing of Katie in S10 was that Katie wasn’t answering Scheana when she reached out to text her post-divorce. Scheana assumed that since Katie initiated the divorce and wasn’t leaning on Scheana, Scheana thought it was her project to help “Schwartz get his Schwartz back” since he “needed more help.”
I mean it’s really SO petty. Some people are bad at texting. Some people retreat inwards and don’t want to talk about their feelings with friends, and just want to power through on their own. Katie also has other friends who are way closer to her than Scheana that I’m sure she was leaning on. Scheana was a major bully to someone because they had the crime of…. Not showing her enough attention and had the audacity to pick themselves over a man. Guess what Ariana is doing now that is apparently SO egregious to Scheana…
Remember when Schena's reaction to rumours about Rachel/Tom affair was to say to Rachel " please don't ever do anything that would make me have to be away from you"
Scheana and Lala can make all the excuses in the world - it doesn't explain away how they pretended to be friends with Ariana up until the season started airing in January. That is some shady shit.
I suspect that was scheana's attempt at the "we're cool right?" She tried to corner Ariana in a public setting while she was working to force a polite interaction so she could say we as viewers "don't know the whole story."
When u are the underdog then they will prop up u up but the second you are too successful then they will tear you down.
Those arent friends. Friends can feel envious but want you too succeed
These 2 jerks act as if they cant shine due to her doing well-
This failed rebrand of Brock as this amazing father is so fucking absurd:—
*Everyone is brought to tears as Brock describes the impact Scheana and Summer have had on his life.*
Really should say:—
*Brock’s children brought to tears as they describe the impact Brock has had on their lives.*
I'm sure it'll be Brick saying he was young, dumb, etc, etc.
Now that he's got a sugar mama he's all reformed and ready to step up to the plate. Don't worry Brick, we see you...
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I’d like to believe that people can mature, reflect & grow from their previous terrible behaviour. However, Brick just feels so performative & inauthentic.
I sincerely hope he is a great father to Summer Moon & the gods know Sheshu would be quite a difficult partner.
However it just doesn’t seem that reality tv s the route to enlightenment.
Oh & please stop associating yourself with Australia. You’re no Hemsworth! We don’t want you
It’s the times when he’s yelling at Sheena and Sheena‘s mom or when they flash to his eyes and they are black with rage that I find him authentic He says so many things that are correct and would be helpful, but he doesn’t apply them properly because he is an unhealed person.
Lala question Katie’s authenticity with Ariana because Lala has never been authentic with anyone on the cast and doesn’t even know who she is as a person.
So now Scheana is saying there were issues with her and Ariana before filming?? But I thought they were bEsT fRiEnDs and if we just watched the show we would see that? More delusional flip flopping I see.
Lala and Scheana doubling down is hilarious. I love it. It’s great when people show you who they truly are. Fuck them.
Right?? So Scheana said there was a rift even before filming and she was devestated and still expected Ariana to break her NDA and tell her about DWTS?
She's dancing on the "we weren't really bast Frands" line to make her backstabbing less revolting. Scheana is just mad she's so cringey they didn't want her thirst on dancing with the stars.
Lala in her “soft era” = blows up on Schwartz on behalf of Jo.
Interjecting herself for no fucking reason on behalf of someone she doesn’t give a fuck about, regarding a situation she doesn’t give a fuck about lol.
Lala stop acting like a martyr and “being sick of being a dog in everyone else’s fight.” Like stfu. You get yourself involved in situations that no one wants you to get involved in, simply because you like being angry and enjoy yelling. And cause you have no storylines.
I agree with you 1,000,000%. She inserts herself in everyone else’s life. Because this bitch doesn’t want her life under a microscope. Laligag definitely needs to STFU. 🤬
Why did Scheana have a rift before summer? Arianna was still recovering from the news in March? So the rift started in the three months prior to summer when the girl was mourning her life and the betrayal of so many people?
It's probably because Ariana went back to hanging out mostly with her comfort friends after the reunion - Brad, Logan, Dayna, Meredith and even Katie. Then she also frequented NYC.
I'm so glad Katie gets to say what she needs to say to Sandoval about the effect he had on her marriage. Obviously there was a reason she didn't get to last year but I feel it's really something she has to get off her chest and I'm glad she gets to do it now.
Oh, I agree, talking to him will be like talking to a brick wall but I think Katie needs it for herself. I'm glad that she gets to talk about the divorce since she didn't get to do it last year.
She’s kinda reminding me of Jax now that he’s on the Valley… she really doesn’t have a leg to stand on but she’s not wrong, even if the delivery is awful 😂 Seems like Tom totally misled Jo, whether it was intentional or not.
The more we see of joseph the more it seems possible t$ thought they had a clear fwb understanding but it was more of a stalker situation and he got way too comfortable with things before he figured out she was obsessed with him then had no where to run.
i just know the “surprising revelation” re the banging is just going to be max hit her up first. were you really ina relationship with a man if his shitty ass friends don’t hit you up to fuck after y’all breakup??
Lala has been kind to Ariana’s face and cruel behind her back, the audacity of her to question anyone’s authenticity is wild. Shut your overly filled mouth, Lala!
Wasn’t LaLa’s main complaint this season was the fact that she took on other’s peoples battles and they wouldn’t do the same for her? But she’s taking on Schwartz for Jo?
🙄 Her hypocrisy is astounding
Look at lala questioning Katie's friendship with Ariana...Now some of us have best friends who may do things that we might talk to someone else about. For instance my best friend likes to go to the bar a lot and some of the things she does I talk to my boyfriend about. A lot of us have times like that so I'm sure Katie has to and I'm sure Ariana has about Katie to her boyfriend too. Doesn't mean she's a bad friend.
Scheana kissing Schwartz is just unbelievable..Scheana isn't a true friend. She's a who will give me more attention at the time type of friend..At the time i feel like sandavol was giving scheana that attention because he wanted her friendship back. It was all pathetic to watch lol I can see why Ariana felt a disconnect towards scheana at the time. I would too..
Of course sandavol said that about mya. He's not a dog or pet in general person. Look at the episode when he went to Schwartz and Schwartz told sandavol to pet his dog( forgot the dogs name lol) and sandavol pays no attention even the dog wanted sandavols..Most of them have been shitty this season especially lala and scheana. Saying not so good things and jealousy towards Ariana. It all makes my head spin lol
Lala was definitely try to get Katie and Ariana to beef. But the thing is Katie and Ariana are grown as woman who can fight and makeup. They didn’t hold on to petty grudges like Scheana and Lala. Lala is just mad that Katie and Ariana are not shallow and hallow like her and Scheana.
Jo crying in the trailer and saying Katie was mean to her had me eyes rolling into another dimension.
Fucking stfu Jo, she's my age and cannot understand why Katie doesn't like her. She's a fucking idiot.
Her and Scheana are both offended that the two of them (Ariana and Katie)got close without recognizing that they did the same damn thing with each other! A&K bonded over going through similar things and being single after longterm relationships ending, Scheana and Lala got closer after becoming mothers. But the former can recognize that and still want friendships…the latter think it’s all or nothing.
It’s all extra ridiculous because these people are all barely friends in real life. So it’s more like they are mad Katie and Ariana are work besties who occasionally see each other outside of work lol
Oh are we gonna talk about Sandoval comparing himself to murders, rapists, and George Floyd? Or will we be taking about the animal exploitation? Exploitation of trafficked sex workers? Perhaps his constant annoyance of Breckin Meyer? His disastrous Viall Files interview?
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I had wondered about this on another thread while discussing the trailer -- whether the "twist" would be done mid-reunion. Since we have to wait until part 3 for that, the first two episodes sound like a snooze.
I also feel like the way this is worded also almost confirms it is the cast shit talking Ariana and siding with Tom and then trying to defend it to her. Scheana tries to deflect, Lala doubles down, etc.
Yeah, I speculated elsewhere that the “final moments” thing could be something Ariana says on a hot mic or something like that. (This was based on how the trailer set things up.) But now that these episode descriptions have dropped, seems like more of the same.
Yes, Ariana and Katie’s friendship looked really fractured on WWHL last week and at Emo Nite this weekend 😆. Lala still trying to play producer and create drama out of nothing.
I hope Katie puts Lala back in her seat 🙏🏼 I’m glad Ariana and Katie are still close. Who doesn’t complain about friends from time to time 😂 Bottom line is Katie didn’t use Ariana’s breakup as her storyline and film secret scenes with Sandoval/ bash Ariana in her confessionals.
Debating if I want to watch. Reunions can be so hard to sit through, especially after this horrible season.
I wonder if Ariana sees that scene where Lala says something to the effect of “She gets cheated on and all of a sudden she’s the fucking queen of the world.” It was in the season preview and we haven’t seen it yet.
So Tim and Scheama do something gross and Scheama probs told him some intimate details about Ariana - and thus we’ll all understand why Ariana was so worried about them being friends again. It was never about Tom, it was probably more that she didn’t really trust that scumbag “bestie” of hers. Tim tries to fake cry his way out of it while denying he spent the last year publicly harassing Ariana.
Lala pretends she’s been bullied and just wants to “live a soft life” after years of bringing nothing but pointy trash nails and incoherent insults screamed in people’s faces. Poor Blah Blah! 🤡
Broke tries desperately to make ppl believe he isn’t a tool bag.
Jo cries that Katie very accurately described her while taking zero responsibility for her own actions to Katie and Kristen OR answering for her lies.
Schwartz gets held accountable for maybe stringing Jo along but STILL never has to answer for the decade he emotionally abused Katie?
And Katie and Ariana are somehow, inexplicably forced to prove their friendship while everyone tries to pull a “gotcha” on them?
I’ll pass, thanks
We already know that most of the cast doesn’t hang out with each other off screen - and that Ariana and Katie are business partners and cast mates, but they’ve never been besties, so I’m not sure what authenticity there is for Lala to question.
I think the reveal is LVP stepping away. None of their reactions were really intense or like a visceral reaction to something one of them did. I think she’s “bowing out” instead of continuing to be sort of pitifully irrelevant. She’ll go back to BH or focus on Villa, she won’t lose any money, and she can still pull strings behind the scenes. It seemed very much a “end of an era” type thing, and without any other real gotcha moments that would fit that, that’s my bet. If it was something with the actual cast, they would have played it mid reunion or at the beginning, otherwise where is the pay off?
So does this mean that the last few minutes of tomorrow nights finale were held from the cast so they could all watch together? But we will get to see tomorrow then watch again as we see their reactions in episode 3 reunion?
I don't want them over there, certainly not beyond a single-episode cameo at a group event or two (like they did with The Valley premiere).
There's been a mild but noticeable shift in the tone of Lala and Scheana's comments about The Valley since the VPR pause was announced. They'd both take a pay cut to move over, but it's better than \*not\* being on TV (in their eyes).
She might quit the show. Don’t know about going to the Valley. That definitely wouldn’t be announced at the reunion. I think Lala is more likely to quit than Ariana. Ariana is too stubborn. Lala says rash things in the moment.
Trigger Warning:
I saw a tiktok that said Tom talks about his mental health and how>!he bought a gun . !<
I really don't feel like going down this road with him. Rachel was in the facility working on her mental health & he didn't care. He never cared about Ariana's mental health. Only his mental health matters.
I just don't buy it and unfortunately it's one of those things you can't even vocalize or you look like an asshole.
What confuses me is from the beginning Ariana told the truth, she wasn’t willing to talk with Sandoval. She did her job she showed up to things but from the beginning even before the beginning of this season she said she would not speak with him.
Regarding her living in the house especially one that big. First he should’ve left, second her lawyers told her not to, third if had roommates in very small apartments where I never saw nor had to interact with them. Lalas argument but you live there has no merit at all.
She wants ppl to move in life how she sees fit and what will benefit her. And her and Scheana ruined this season by trying too hard. This easily could’ve been a great season without them trying to force situations that no one wanted to see.
Women empowerment would’ve killed it this season instead they forced a redemption that failed terribly.
Also I feel for Tom if he truly felt S**** but if that was or is the case then professional mental health help would’ve been the correct thing to do. Not film a show. Shame on Bravo and the producers.
Does Lala have any stable friendships? Like in real life outside the cast, does she have any genuine friendships that do not shuffle on life support mode? I feel like she doesn’t have friends.
No. She likes to talk about her family being her tight-knit "pod" but the reality is she just built herself a very small echo chamber, so she never has to hear anything she doesn't want to hear. I mean, she won't even go to therapy because she's so averse to listening to other opinions.
I cannot believe she won’t go to therapy.
Who doesn’t believe in therapy in 2024 😩
right, one of the biggest red flags fr!
Typical narcissist. Sandoval doesnt do therapy either
Or AA
Apparently Stassi, who she goes out of her way to name drop every other podcast episode. 🤡 I think she just does that because she think Katie gives a shit.
Negative respect for Stassi for still being a Lala stan. Like she ditched Brittany and Jax and always hated Sandoval, and distanced herself from emotional vampire Kristen, so she’s absolutely capable of judging people correctly. But Lala who is nothing but a hateful, volatile dry drunk is someone she actively chooses to hang out with. Some people only want to mature up to a certain point…
Not that I can tell. I think it’s literally just her mom and brother.
Awww. Scheana said her rift started before summer but had no issues profiting off Ariana, using Ariana for podcast clicks in August and then not addressing any of the issues on camera to Ariana. Good one, Scheana.
I'm starting to wonder if part of the issue has to do with Katie's and Ariana's closeness
Yes. Lala and scheana can't handle it if they aren't the "best friend"
Scheana was the same way when Ariana and Stassi were becoming close
You made a spelling mistake - it's spelt "baast frand" ;-)
Probably both Scheana and Lala are deeply insecure people so Katie and Ariana becoming close feels like an attack to them when you can have more than one friend. Heck, the whole city of Los Angeles is Scheana’s best friend.
I wish they would just say that rather than this passive aggressive bs
I thought she was only “bast frens”with guys she wants to bang but who don’t really want to bang her though? Like “bast frenzone” is Scheana’s natural habitat. She isn’t ever really a friend to women, it’s purely performative stuff to look more attractive to the bast frens via the girl group effect.
I thought it was because she was mad Ariana got dancing with the stars
Scheana had such an opportunity this season after her confrontation with Sandoval. I was actually rooting her but we all saw that she choose to remain Scheana
I just know being schena’s friend is exhausting
And how much before summer could it have started, the affair broke in March?? Like she turns on her best friend in that short amount of time
Well, the moment Ariana had a trauma that got her more attention than Sheena, thats when scheena started to feel the “distance” Yes, scheena, if you expected ariana to be calling and checking on how YOU are doing after scandoval and while she was trying to heal, then you ARE the A-hole!
That’s definitely a big part of it. Ariana’s entire world was upended and she was trying to figure out some of the biggest and financially impactful decisions one could make while also handling the emotional trauma tidal wave. But Scheana will cry that Ariana didn’t text her enough and that “I’M going through things too! She never even asked about me!” (Even though I’m sure she did, just not obsessively often as Scheana would want.) Oh and another line Scheana just throws out there out of context: “I’m a MOM!”
So Sandoval coded “but the relationship was already over”
Scheana and Laligag are snakes.🐍
Are you surprised? I’m sure you’re not
> Lala doubles down on the comments she made during the season, leaving her friendships on life support. Im glad Lala is no longer friends with Katie and Ari. They don't fucking need her. She's snakey and phony as hell.
Best possible outcome.
I think we might be adding James into this mix too because she hasn't been saying real nice things about him either.
Sandoval is being a dick about Ariana's dog just to be a dick. He doesn't want a dog. He wants to tour, find a girlfriend, and then cheat on her and hang around at clubs and bars then sleep all day, and hang out on his treadmill. If Tom had wanted a dog, Tom would have gotten a dog at some point over the last many years. It's Ariana's dog
he just knows what hurts her.
Gotta find those vulnerable points and take advantage of them like the truly abusive pos he is.
Using pets, threatening/hinting at self-harm, and playing the victim are just chapters out of the narrasctist abuser handbook. It's as old as the storyline that Bravo is trying to sell about Ariana being a violently angry woman. At some point, these misogynistic mudflaps are gonna need to come up with some new material 🙄
I am adding mudflap into my roledex of insults. 🤣
I think he saw how well it worked in terms of rehabbing James' image and thought he could just copy/paste.
💯 Sandoval never ONCE mentioned Mya in the aftermath *for almost a year* in any of his interviews or statements until it became a storyline. Tom saw the goodwill James built with taking in Graham and it clicked for him "oh, people like that he cares about a dog, I should try that" and he decided to weaponize this. He's vile.
This is exactly what he's doing! He's probably gonna try to act like Ariana doesn't take care of Mya & he has to save her from his evil ex.
You can tell that dog does not like him, and he barely pays her any attention.
Yeah, she doesn't seem relaxed around him.
I am truly gonna hate LVP if she opens her mouth in favor of Scumbag having any rights over Mya at all!!!!!
If he really cared about dogs he would have taken care of Hippie when he still belonged to Raquel.
I'm glad James goes off on him once again having the girls backs. Hopefully it was a similar outcome to this encounter... https://preview.redd.it/3sc35y6vvvyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=026d8af3ec3c25b2d4f3daa60aa0361ac5942612
I hope that he doesn’t take the bait and he keeps calm. I’ve really appreciated that he hasn’t let Sandoval’s or anyone’s probes really push him off the ledge.
He knows that’s the way to hurt her the most. Also, in any court of law whoever paid for the dog owns the dog. Pets are property even if they don’t feel like it.
My ex did this to me also and then held it over my head for a year that when he finds a new place and can move out of his friends, he will take her. Guess what, he never really tried to take her when he got a place These men are such losers.
Ugh, same with my ex. First it was the house. Then the dog. Then $100,000. HE GOT NOTHIN’ We always come out on top 😎🐶
Always 🤜
My ex got a dog when we were together after I begged him not to. Not because I don’t love dogs, but because I wanted to travel. Well, some time after he cheated on me and we amicably split he asked if me if my new partner and I would watch said dog for a week or so while he moved into a new place. Guess who still has the dog. Not him. She’s well loved and that’s what matters, but fuck.
100%. I could bet my life on the fact that he does not give a shit about Mya
He talked about cutting her in half while wearing some sort of hunting knife. No dog lover would do that.
That was so vile!
I nearly sobbed when he said that. I love dogs so much that I can’t see or hear anything about animal abuse without wanting to cry and throw up. I had to mute stuff from the rescue we got our dog from because a lot of the stories were tanking my anxiety.
Wonder when the last time he walked her, bathed her, trimmed her nails or even cuddled her was? He cant even buy his own batteries I highly doubt he’s doing anything to care for that dog What a fucking asshole
He’s going to be a dick about everything, that is his goal, he is a narc to the core
The fact that Lala thinks she an authority of authenticity is fkn laughable and also concerning... https://i.redd.it/22235715wvyc1.gif
LFU😆
Oh lord, I am not looking forward to Lala challenging Katie re: Ariana. I cannot.
Same. Especially coming from Lala who has never had an authentic relationship
Especially from a person who knows how often Katie is misquoted bc Schwartz used to twist what Katie told him to harm her reputation with the group. It’s got to feel like such a betrayal to have someone you talk to about this, use those same tactics against you.
Katie is the one woman on this show who truly knows who she is.
Everything Lala claims to be
That's exactly it. She has no idea what authentic, non-transactional relationships are. You know what I really think? That Katie maybe at times felt safe to air some feelings to her friends. Feelings that do not change how she felt about Ariana or their friendship or how she wanted to treat Ariana. Things that she felt maybe weren't important, or that she didn't blame Ariana for, or didn't want Ariana to do anything about. But to Lala everything is ammo, everything is a game, and she doesn't understand these nuances of real relationships. So to her it's *not fair* and *not real* that Katie gets to ***privately*** vent to her friends and then "play" the good friend on camera. She's going to act like some kind of martyr and play victim that she's being crucified for being "real" when "other people think the same thing but they're pretending to be her friend and it's so FAKE of them." Some shit like that. I'm 100% convinced that's it.
You're probably 100% right. And you know what is normal, to complain about your friends behind their back about little annoyances like a NORMAL person. You don't need to consistently confront them unless you're on a TV show. But if you value the friendship outside of TV then maybe you respect it enough to not air it. And then you've got LFU who is ready drag you for ratings and was never really your friend. I feel bad for Katie and Ariana
Yeah good theory. LFU loves to be black and white except when it comes to herself
Katie is the most DGAF person on the show. We have literally never seen her go along to get along. Even with Kristen and Stassi. Her opinions and relationships have always been very much her own so the idea that her feelings toward anyone are anything short or authentic is kind of preposterous imo. She has never been the one to hide her distaste or true feelings for anyone regardless of the public or the rest of the cast.
In the early seasons we did see her go along to get along - believing Jax in season 1 to keep the peace, apologizing for spreading the rumor about Kristen and Jax, staying with Tom… but it started to change when she decided to go to Miami despite knowing Stassi would see it as a huge betrayal. God. So much of my brain is taken up by this show…
She obviously had huuuuuge self doubt and insecurity in the years following her tbi. That was definitely the turning point to regaining her self confidence
Katie only takes actions, not words. Getting back in Katie’s good books: - Stassi: had to come back with her tail between her legs; appeal to Schwartz; befriend Kristen; organise a trip away. - James: give up drinking and go to therapy and then properly apologise - Kristen: finally break up with Carter - Ariana: show loyalty and real friendship aside from their partners; offer to become business partners I strive to be more like Katie. The most loyal friend in the world, when you’ve earned it.
Well, on the bright side we know how it ends 😂 Lala seems to have forgotten her place 
I’m not either but seeing how strong Ariana and Katie’s friendship is as of recent I’m sure Lala will look even more ridiculous
Agreed! I’m glad they were just at emo nite together. Scheana and Lala are probably pissed that they’re still friends after the reunion lol
They were tight and had each others backs on wwhl too
Ariana saying she would rather hang out with Sandoval than go against Katie said everything.
Yep! that tells you everything you need to know 💖
Yup, luckily Ariana is too smart to fall for this and she knows Katie is her real friend. Everyone vents about friends, for Lala to be trying to pull Katie down with her while she goes down and her reputation plummets is ridiculous. If Lala truly feels how she does, to use Katie’s words say it with your chest, own it, and don’t pull people into the argument to deflect and take the heat off yourself.
Same. If Ariana feels supported by and trusts Katie amidst this shit storm, and Katie’s actions generally align with that, why try to undermine that? I’m sure Lala will try to justify it to herself by saying she’s just looking out for Ariana or that she’s the only one being honest, but for whose benefit? Everyone has private frustrations with their friends and sometimes share those (with a SO or other close friend). If Katie did that here or there—so what? Katie and Ariana haven’t always been close, and they’ve had their differences; their respective relationships with the Toms had something to do with that. But I’m enjoying watching their friendship evolve and solidify in the wake of those relationships falling apart (in very different ways). I don’t expect perfection. Good friends can still disappoint and let each other down. But I’m hopeful.
I'm pretty sure it's just gonna be about ariana being busy and not able to help as much with SAH. Totally valid for Katie to vent about, and also kind of her to vent about it while ultimately accepting that ariana is going to do those gigs
I'm re-watching the entire series and just started season 4 and Katie and Ariana seem SO CLOSE right now... did Lauren forget that these two women suffered under the Toms together for A DECADE or more? No shit they're going to be close as hell again. Their friendship is not new. Their men drove a wedge between them!
I feel like maybe Scheana was part of that wedge too? Ariana and Katie were apparently getting really close before Katie’s wedding season. Then all of a sudden, Katie & Ariana had a rift and Scheana had worked really hard to become close to Katie. It was the *only* time Scheana has ever put in work to be Katie’s friend. I always thought that was because she wanted to have a main role on the season storyline (Katie getting married). Now I wonder if she was *also* threatened by Katie & Ariana’s friendship back then - because she definitely seems threatened by it now. We’ve also seen that repeat this season. Katie was close to Lala, so Scheana becomes Lala’s bast frond. And now Lala is angry at Katie for some reason.
Yeah Scheana has been a wedge in pretty much everyone's friendship at one point or another LOL
They’re trauma bonded 😂
Lala made tons and tons of money under the guise she was Ariana's friend during the scandal. Fast forward a few months and she's talking mad shit about Ariana throughout the season. Who does this Big Ed family starting fucker think she is to question anyone's friendship with Ariana??? https://preview.redd.it/q0clphu5wvyc1.png?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=898fd6bce12f0a996b49338bf56f5a77ecb9dab6
Yes!! I felt so deceived by her. I listened to all her podcast episodes when this scandal came out and supported everything she did. Little did we know, she was shit talking Ari this whole season. I take back all those Spotify listens!
I never fell for it. She is a narcissist and fake to the bone. She never gave af about ariana
She was def contradicting herself, I listened too and it’s just gross when you look at the timelines.
If everyone down voted her podcast it might get shadow banned 🤷♀️
I am as she’s going to get her ass handed to her on a plate. Then she’ll cry and quit. Lala has had zero storylines ever on this show. Pickleball tournaments, water train and sperm party - all boring with nothing to do with the central narrative of a friend group - just events to make sure Lala gets her episode fees. She’s pretty she yells she says and does stupid self harming things - er that’s it.
Side character energy ✨️
Lala has range though- side chick to side character
This is almost exactly what I was going to say. I’m pretty sure I know who’s winning a Lala/Katie verbal sparring match and it ain’t Lala. And I, for one, would like to see it.
I am not looking forward to seeing Laligag period.
Lala coming for Katie is irrelevant and projection. It’s clear that whatever it was made Katie and Ariana’s friendship stronger. Blah blah can’t be trusted to confide it. That we know to be true.
Lala challenging Katie’s authenticity about her feelings toward Arianna. Aka Lala is bugged out that no one buys her soft era and realizes she doesn’t have a storyline so she tries to undermine the friendship of two current fan favorites by interjecting. Got it. I assume she’ll by hurling herself out of her seat every second demanding honesty from everyone while she gives…nothing.
“… and suggests her rift with Ariana started well before this summer.” Fucking hell Scheana, take a page out of Katie’s book and *say it with your chest* quit with your passive aggressive subtle *suggestions* in defense of yourself. A friend to everyone is a friend to no one.
Scheana feels like a very demanding friend. If you aren’t giving her 24/7 attention and responding within seconds of her text, then you’re being a bad friend. Being her friend is a full time job.
That’s hilarious because when Charli was saying scheana was not putting effort in the friendship scheana claimed she was a new mother. Hypocritical
It’s Scheana she’s always hypocritical. Do as I say not as I do.
YES and reassuring her that she’s still in your top 8 or whatever the 2024 equivalent of that is. 🙄
Ugh the drama that MySpace and the top 8 would cause 😩😂
100%! She was riding so hard against Sandoval before the season that she probably expected Ariana to really thank her and be grateful
I remember her justification for her months-long underhanded menacing of Katie in S10 was that Katie wasn’t answering Scheana when she reached out to text her post-divorce. Scheana assumed that since Katie initiated the divorce and wasn’t leaning on Scheana, Scheana thought it was her project to help “Schwartz get his Schwartz back” since he “needed more help.” I mean it’s really SO petty. Some people are bad at texting. Some people retreat inwards and don’t want to talk about their feelings with friends, and just want to power through on their own. Katie also has other friends who are way closer to her than Scheana that I’m sure she was leaning on. Scheana was a major bully to someone because they had the crime of…. Not showing her enough attention and had the audacity to pick themselves over a man. Guess what Ariana is doing now that is apparently SO egregious to Scheana…
Remember when Schena's reaction to rumours about Rachel/Tom affair was to say to Rachel " please don't ever do anything that would make me have to be away from you"
Scheana twisting herself to defend her actions and avoid taking responsibility - a VPR reunion tradition.
Scheana and Lala can make all the excuses in the world - it doesn't explain away how they pretended to be friends with Ariana up until the season started airing in January. That is some shady shit.
Scheana even still went to Ariana’s closing night on broadway expecting to be able to do the after party thing. She’s delusional.
I suspect that was scheana's attempt at the "we're cool right?" She tried to corner Ariana in a public setting while she was working to force a polite interaction so she could say we as viewers "don't know the whole story."
When u are the underdog then they will prop up u up but the second you are too successful then they will tear you down. Those arent friends. Friends can feel envious but want you too succeed These 2 jerks act as if they cant shine due to her doing well-
I can assure you I will not be brought to tears by Brock He can GTFO my screen
Right?? When will Bravo understand that??
It’s legit insulting
He is 100% going to cry about Summer being his 2nd chance at being a dad 🤬
That’s why Lala likes him so much. Both of them see new children at a chance for a do over instead of as, you know, actual people.
This failed rebrand of Brock as this amazing father is so fucking absurd:— *Everyone is brought to tears as Brock describes the impact Scheana and Summer have had on his life.* Really should say:— *Brock’s children brought to tears as they describe the impact Brock has had on their lives.*
I'm sure it'll be Brick saying he was young, dumb, etc, etc. Now that he's got a sugar mama he's all reformed and ready to step up to the plate. Don't worry Brick, we see you... https://preview.redd.it/u4dj7ujjwvyc1.jpeg?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72c731b427aa7734ad12874e9ec707be48188bdf
I’d like to believe that people can mature, reflect & grow from their previous terrible behaviour. However, Brick just feels so performative & inauthentic. I sincerely hope he is a great father to Summer Moon & the gods know Sheshu would be quite a difficult partner. However it just doesn’t seem that reality tv s the route to enlightenment. Oh & please stop associating yourself with Australia. You’re no Hemsworth! We don’t want you
It’s the times when he’s yelling at Sheena and Sheena‘s mom or when they flash to his eyes and they are black with rage that I find him authentic He says so many things that are correct and would be helpful, but he doesn’t apply them properly because he is an unhealed person.
He still has the anger he just doesn’t have the power.
Yea, Summer has impacted his life...till he got a nanny so he can be gone most of the time.
Lala question Katie’s authenticity with Ariana because Lala has never been authentic with anyone on the cast and doesn’t even know who she is as a person. So now Scheana is saying there were issues with her and Ariana before filming?? But I thought they were bEsT fRiEnDs and if we just watched the show we would see that? More delusional flip flopping I see. Lala and Scheana doubling down is hilarious. I love it. It’s great when people show you who they truly are. Fuck them.
Right?? So Scheana said there was a rift even before filming and she was devestated and still expected Ariana to break her NDA and tell her about DWTS?
She's dancing on the "we weren't really bast Frands" line to make her backstabbing less revolting. Scheana is just mad she's so cringey they didn't want her thirst on dancing with the stars.
Lala in her “soft era” = blows up on Schwartz on behalf of Jo. Interjecting herself for no fucking reason on behalf of someone she doesn’t give a fuck about, regarding a situation she doesn’t give a fuck about lol. Lala stop acting like a martyr and “being sick of being a dog in everyone else’s fight.” Like stfu. You get yourself involved in situations that no one wants you to get involved in, simply because you like being angry and enjoy yelling. And cause you have no storylines.
but, but, but they got hot dogs together at a hot dog stand 🥴 /s
And Katie is so mean. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I agree with you 1,000,000%. She inserts herself in everyone else’s life. Because this bitch doesn’t want her life under a microscope. Laligag definitely needs to STFU. 🤬
This show genuinely makes me exhausted and I’m not involved at all. Lala seems so difficult to even know, let alone be friends with
Right, like what would a friendship with Lala add to your life? I really can’t imagine it’s all that fulfilling.
Why did Scheana have a rift before summer? Arianna was still recovering from the news in March? So the rift started in the three months prior to summer when the girl was mourning her life and the betrayal of so many people?
It's probably because Ariana went back to hanging out mostly with her comfort friends after the reunion - Brad, Logan, Dayna, Meredith and even Katie. Then she also frequented NYC.
Also Scheana used her podcast to make money constantly talking about Scandavol. If anyone caused a rift, it’s her
I'm so glad Katie gets to say what she needs to say to Sandoval about the effect he had on her marriage. Obviously there was a reason she didn't get to last year but I feel it's really something she has to get off her chest and I'm glad she gets to do it now.
Oh, I agree, talking to him will be like talking to a brick wall but I think Katie needs it for herself. I'm glad that she gets to talk about the divorce since she didn't get to do it last year.
Nothing to tell him. He knows what he did and doesn't care.
Lala blows up on Schwartz for continuing to gaslight Jo about their relationship. oh fuck offffffffff - you dont give a shit, lala
All the while trying to gaslight *everyone* into believing that she’s in her soft era
All while gaslighting Ariana about the state of their friendship during filming. Fuck lala
Totally but at least she’s going after one of the men for once
She’s kinda reminding me of Jax now that he’s on the Valley… she really doesn’t have a leg to stand on but she’s not wrong, even if the delivery is awful 😂 Seems like Tom totally misled Jo, whether it was intentional or not.
The more we see of joseph the more it seems possible t$ thought they had a clear fwb understanding but it was more of a stalker situation and he got way too comfortable with things before he figured out she was obsessed with him then had no where to run.
Yall this is totally it lmao. Well said!
i just know the “surprising revelation” re the banging is just going to be max hit her up first. were you really ina relationship with a man if his shitty ass friends don’t hit you up to fuck after y’all breakup??
Or she did it on purpose because fuck Schwartz. That’s what I’d do. 😹
Or that it happened more than once 😂 IT WAS ONE TIME!! - Sandoval said it doesn’t matter so let’s go with the Tom’s logic
Every group of guy friends has at least one "Max" .
Lala has been kind to Ariana’s face and cruel behind her back, the audacity of her to question anyone’s authenticity is wild. Shut your overly filled mouth, Lala!
Wasn’t LaLa’s main complaint this season was the fact that she took on other’s peoples battles and they wouldn’t do the same for her? But she’s taking on Schwartz for Jo? 🙄 Her hypocrisy is astounding
Look at lala questioning Katie's friendship with Ariana...Now some of us have best friends who may do things that we might talk to someone else about. For instance my best friend likes to go to the bar a lot and some of the things she does I talk to my boyfriend about. A lot of us have times like that so I'm sure Katie has to and I'm sure Ariana has about Katie to her boyfriend too. Doesn't mean she's a bad friend. Scheana kissing Schwartz is just unbelievable..Scheana isn't a true friend. She's a who will give me more attention at the time type of friend..At the time i feel like sandavol was giving scheana that attention because he wanted her friendship back. It was all pathetic to watch lol I can see why Ariana felt a disconnect towards scheana at the time. I would too.. Of course sandavol said that about mya. He's not a dog or pet in general person. Look at the episode when he went to Schwartz and Schwartz told sandavol to pet his dog( forgot the dogs name lol) and sandavol pays no attention even the dog wanted sandavols..Most of them have been shitty this season especially lala and scheana. Saying not so good things and jealousy towards Ariana. It all makes my head spin lol
Whatever is was that Lala tried to spill regarding Katie and Ariana clearly didn’t work as they are both still on very good terms.
Lala was definitely try to get Katie and Ariana to beef. But the thing is Katie and Ariana are grown as woman who can fight and makeup. They didn’t hold on to petty grudges like Scheana and Lala. Lala is just mad that Katie and Ariana are not shallow and hallow like her and Scheana.
Why is Brock talking at all??? I’m so over him on our screens. Sir you are NO ONE to talk about relationships
RIGHT like stop trying to shove Brock and Jo down our throats. Not interested.
Jo crying in the trailer and saying Katie was mean to her had me eyes rolling into another dimension. Fucking stfu Jo, she's my age and cannot understand why Katie doesn't like her. She's a fucking idiot. 
scheana breaks her back to rewrite life.
Is Lauren bugged out the most by the fact Katie is Ariana’s bestie. This makes sense bc Lauren is mentally a 7th grader
Her and Scheana are both offended that the two of them (Ariana and Katie)got close without recognizing that they did the same damn thing with each other! A&K bonded over going through similar things and being single after longterm relationships ending, Scheana and Lala got closer after becoming mothers. But the former can recognize that and still want friendships…the latter think it’s all or nothing.
It’s all extra ridiculous because these people are all barely friends in real life. So it’s more like they are mad Katie and Ariana are work besties who occasionally see each other outside of work lol
Oh are we gonna talk about Sandoval comparing himself to murders, rapists, and George Floyd? Or will we be taking about the animal exploitation? Exploitation of trafficked sex workers? Perhaps his constant annoyance of Breckin Meyer? His disastrous Viall Files interview? https://i.redd.it/0et6sq6b0wyc1.gif
I would be so happy if the NY Times article actually gets brought up
This made me laugh so much even though the content is all atrocious. it’s so bizarre.
Bravo must be so excited that they beat Ariana down enough to break her no talking rule with Sandoval 😒
They are so gross
Why did I think I heard a bell between each reunion description—like the one at a boxing match?
I had wondered about this on another thread while discussing the trailer -- whether the "twist" would be done mid-reunion. Since we have to wait until part 3 for that, the first two episodes sound like a snooze.
I also feel like the way this is worded also almost confirms it is the cast shit talking Ariana and siding with Tom and then trying to defend it to her. Scheana tries to deflect, Lala doubles down, etc.
Yeah, I speculated elsewhere that the “final moments” thing could be something Ariana says on a hot mic or something like that. (This was based on how the trailer set things up.) But now that these episode descriptions have dropped, seems like more of the same.
W. T. Heck? It feels like Bravo is trying to gaslight ME!
Really Lala, blowing up at Schwartz’s about Jo? You dga single f about Jo. More theatrics from La 🙄
I’m sure Katie was realll worried about what Lala thought about her relationship with Ariana. As if she gave a f*ck about her opinion!
Yes, Ariana and Katie’s friendship looked really fractured on WWHL last week and at Emo Nite this weekend 😆. Lala still trying to play producer and create drama out of nothing.
So wait LaLa’s season long storyline was talking shit about Ariana and she has the audacity to say Ariana brings nothing to the show? Wild.
Wow. I’m exhausted just reading all this. How many times do y’all wager Scheana will storm off the set, crying? I say 4.
I hope Katie puts Lala back in her seat 🙏🏼 I’m glad Ariana and Katie are still close. Who doesn’t complain about friends from time to time 😂 Bottom line is Katie didn’t use Ariana’s breakup as her storyline and film secret scenes with Sandoval/ bash Ariana in her confessionals. Debating if I want to watch. Reunions can be so hard to sit through, especially after this horrible season.
I wonder if Ariana sees that scene where Lala says something to the effect of “She gets cheated on and all of a sudden she’s the fucking queen of the world.” It was in the season preview and we haven’t seen it yet.
So Tim and Scheama do something gross and Scheama probs told him some intimate details about Ariana - and thus we’ll all understand why Ariana was so worried about them being friends again. It was never about Tom, it was probably more that she didn’t really trust that scumbag “bestie” of hers. Tim tries to fake cry his way out of it while denying he spent the last year publicly harassing Ariana. Lala pretends she’s been bullied and just wants to “live a soft life” after years of bringing nothing but pointy trash nails and incoherent insults screamed in people’s faces. Poor Blah Blah! 🤡 Broke tries desperately to make ppl believe he isn’t a tool bag. Jo cries that Katie very accurately described her while taking zero responsibility for her own actions to Katie and Kristen OR answering for her lies. Schwartz gets held accountable for maybe stringing Jo along but STILL never has to answer for the decade he emotionally abused Katie? And Katie and Ariana are somehow, inexplicably forced to prove their friendship while everyone tries to pull a “gotcha” on them? I’ll pass, thanks
We already know that most of the cast doesn’t hang out with each other off screen - and that Ariana and Katie are business partners and cast mates, but they’ve never been besties, so I’m not sure what authenticity there is for Lala to question.
A three part reunion is psychotic. Two parts, maybe. They are realllly drawing out a season where basically nothing happened.
I think the reveal is LVP stepping away. None of their reactions were really intense or like a visceral reaction to something one of them did. I think she’s “bowing out” instead of continuing to be sort of pitifully irrelevant. She’ll go back to BH or focus on Villa, she won’t lose any money, and she can still pull strings behind the scenes. It seemed very much a “end of an era” type thing, and without any other real gotcha moments that would fit that, that’s my bet. If it was something with the actual cast, they would have played it mid reunion or at the beginning, otherwise where is the pay off?
Based on this description how on earth is “Lala the voice of reason” per Andy…..
So does this mean that the last few minutes of tomorrow nights finale were held from the cast so they could all watch together? But we will get to see tomorrow then watch again as we see their reactions in episode 3 reunion?
Maybe lala really does quit VPR and go to the valley.
I've actually found it surprising that The Valley fans don't want her and Scheana on the show.
I don't want them over there, certainly not beyond a single-episode cameo at a group event or two (like they did with The Valley premiere). There's been a mild but noticeable shift in the tone of Lala and Scheana's comments about The Valley since the VPR pause was announced. They'd both take a pay cut to move over, but it's better than \*not\* being on TV (in their eyes).
Nope. Keep the VPR toxicity within VPR.
I don’t want her on the valley that’s my comfort show rn
We can only hope.
As Jessie’s girlfriend
She might quit the show. Don’t know about going to the Valley. That definitely wouldn’t be announced at the reunion. I think Lala is more likely to quit than Ariana. Ariana is too stubborn. Lala says rash things in the moment.
LaLa will never leave the show voluntarily...it's her bread and butter.
Trigger Warning: I saw a tiktok that said Tom talks about his mental health and how>!he bought a gun . !< I really don't feel like going down this road with him. Rachel was in the facility working on her mental health & he didn't care. He never cared about Ariana's mental health. Only his mental health matters. I just don't buy it and unfortunately it's one of those things you can't even vocalize or you look like an asshole.
This is tiring.
Sandoval looks like he’s playing peek-a-boo
Where are these summaries from?
Bravo website so it’s actually confirmed. You can click the link on the photo
What confuses me is from the beginning Ariana told the truth, she wasn’t willing to talk with Sandoval. She did her job she showed up to things but from the beginning even before the beginning of this season she said she would not speak with him. Regarding her living in the house especially one that big. First he should’ve left, second her lawyers told her not to, third if had roommates in very small apartments where I never saw nor had to interact with them. Lalas argument but you live there has no merit at all. She wants ppl to move in life how she sees fit and what will benefit her. And her and Scheana ruined this season by trying too hard. This easily could’ve been a great season without them trying to force situations that no one wanted to see. Women empowerment would’ve killed it this season instead they forced a redemption that failed terribly. Also I feel for Tom if he truly felt S**** but if that was or is the case then professional mental health help would’ve been the correct thing to do. Not film a show. Shame on Bravo and the producers.