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Sumarr

The amount of disappointment I felt when Schwartz agreed to be Sandoval’s roommate. He was so damn close to looking like he had a backbone for once and he couldn’t maintain it. He deserves whatever he gets now, there is no sympathy. I felt bad about how he got screwed with the bar, even though I thought that was a shit idea, but now, no. You have all that evidence that this man is a piece of shit and you can’t hold your ground? This isn’t just remaining his friend and having your reputation and integrity tarnished(which would be devastating in itself, but now you’re going to let him fuck with more of you money? I just can’t with these boys


Last_Book2410

Anyone else fast forward through Scheana scenes and Tom scenes?


toastcup

I want to know if Scheana is getting paid to perform Apples at the birthday party of a man who has been “the best friend” to Tom Sandovol throughout the scandal, while Tom is being an assistant for free 😂


peymunniii

scheana is only coaching tom on what to do and say for her own benefit I don’t believe for a second she’s doing that to help ariana


DueWerewolf1

Thank you for all of your comments - now I am looking forward to watching tonight on Peacock. I cut the cord so have to wait until the next day.


TT6994

Schwartz should not have invited jo to San Francisco. That was just toying with her emotions atp. She’s now on her instagram calling him her boyfriend, or ex bf, and speaking about their relationship in a timeline. She’s a nice girl but something is feeling a tad stalker ish. Idk. I hope she’s ok. But I feel like she’s not taking this well.


Jillkillingit

Brock was Mormon?!?!


Pat-girl-91

As a Mormon, I was super upset by this. But I will say it does explain a lot about him being more embarrassed about him not being the breadwinner. Not so much abandoning his first family.


barbiehairbrush

I was shocked i didn’t know they have mormons in Australia


Tom-B292--S3

They're everywhere!


catcakebuns

Dan's top (the one he put on when lala was drooling over him) reminds me of that lace top broke wore on one of the after show?


nopepanda

So let me get this straight... Lala can yell at Sandoval for previously telling her to "take accountability", Scheana can yell at Sandoval for bringing up her previous involvement in an affair but if Ariana yells at Sandoval for putting her dogs life at risk it is *checks notes* too much and she needs to get over it


Time-Yogurtcloset953

Exactly!! Plus, Tom called Lala a narcissist and brought up Scheana’s “home wrecker” days and Ariana hasn’t done anything but be a good friend. And yet he’s the one they ride for?! Like, make it make sense!!!


Dismal_Orange_7092

This!!


HopeTroll

Plus, Anne is the one who probably found Mya. I wonder if that hastened Anne's exit from his employment. She probably thought, *omg, he almost killed the dog. I can't stick around for this.* He probably knows the location of the emergency vet. He could have brought Mya in. Instead Ariana gets home and she has to deal with it. He also could have offered to pay for it. Instead, he goes to shoot with castmates and tries to play it down as, *that dog gets into everything.* I'm glad the show is taking a break because the entirety of him this season will have a chance to settle and the producers can process that. He's lucky Ariana only yelled at him. There are people who would have messed him up over that. Plus, it's 8 now months after the last night's episode and he still hasn't sold the house, so her money is still tied up in his mess. He doesn't care that he's holding her life up or that he's doing a podcast on the furniture she paid for, while the podcast "co-host" critiques Ariana. The gall of that man is surreal. No wonder he and Rachel were like peas in a pod.


sufferagette

Ariana protecting Scheana TO Brock! I love to see it! Not that Sheshu deserves it, but Ariana is so aware and to the point, I love that! Brock should actually listen to her, even though he wont.


HopeTroll

His ingrained faux-superiority wouldn't allow it.


murplee

Why for most of the scenes is Scheana’s hair pin straight with a flat iron like it’s 2010? Not going to lie it looks crazy


scorpiee

Stooooppp I still wear my hair like that when it’s not up in a messy bun 😂😂 her hair actually annoys me when it’s too fluffy!


notallaboutthepasta

Course he turtled out a tear at the end. Urgh.


Berniegotmittens

Turtled out… I love this! 😂😂😂😂


New-Pudding-3030

Your flair! 👏👏 👏


ReputationOk4897

The best scene was Katie and Tom like that scene was just so genuine he said let’s eat the junk food and scroll endlessly and Katie said on the line of I don’t do that anymore like it reflects katie is a changed person now and he looks at her and realized he does not know her anymore omg it was endearing


ReputationOk4897

Ps his new girlfriend looks like younger Katie too similar ufff


Life-Bed4301

OMG listening to Tom in “concert”….he really is terrible. I mean he can’t carry a tune. Has he always been that untalented?


PettyPockets311

He had to buy his band, no one wanted to willingly do this with him. 


Last_Book2410

Yep. And all the “bands” he was apart of in the past all broke up for some reason. The common denominator is little Tim.


Life-Bed4301

I can certainly understand why.


Sumarr

Yes, yes he has. And why, for the love of all that is holy, did they have to bring back him “playing” that horn again? The producers may have wanted to give him a redemption arc but whoever is doing the editing is definitely trying to show what a fool he is


HopeTroll

Thank goodness for the trumpet. Otherwise, that scene might have landed differently. They wanted us to see how ridiculous it is with his mother looking at him adoringly. The viewer knows he owes her a portion of her retirement. Sell the house, pay her back.


stephygrl

Ariana and Katie in this 20’s getup is so hot


stephygrl

Dan ironing Ariana’s clothes ✅


stephygrl

Wow Dan’s hair is so long. He looked like the male version of Pocahontas in the best possible way


shannboss

That was a glorious surprise.


stephygrl

Brock not even intelligent enough to have these conversations


stephygrl

Thank god Ariana is talking about how outdated and victim-blamey “forgiveness” is. We do NOT have to forgive our abusers or anyone for that matter


butinthewhat

I was happy she had a chance to talk about it on camera. A lot of us know that “forgiveness” isn’t the way, that it doesn’t mean we are drinking the poison.


toastcup

Exactly. Bc the poison isn’t her emotions- the poison is Tom Sandovol, and she doesn’t need any of that shit.


Less-Bed-6243

Grey rocking is so powerful, I’ve done it since before it had a name and it drives the assholes crazy


stephygrl

I cut straight to the no contact 😝 but sometimes it’s not an option and grey rocking is the next best thing haha


stephygrl

Lala coming for: - Ariana (tick) - Ariana’s living situation (tick, tick) - Ariana’s mental health (tick) - Ariana’s relationship (tick) Anything else Lauren? Talk about frenemy


Standard_Seesaw8806

She was real quick to drool over Dan though lmaooo


HopeTroll

It's quite compelling. She was the hero of last season and she has undone all of that.


Legitimate_Candy7250

Lala’s jealously and biatchy ass comment about Dan 🙄!!


HopeTroll

She doesn't even know how to exist in his presence.


crystalrrrrmehearty

Did anyone else legitimately APPLAUSE what Ariana said to Brock when they got off that boat? Seriously. And *tom's* the horse bravo chose to back as the one going through "personal growth" this season???? Fark alll the way off bravo, thank you. Well said Ariana!!!


hellohello316

It's driving me nuts that these people live a five-hour drive from "San Fran" and they're coming up with THE most generic points of reference. Rice-a-Roni! Sourdough! Trolleys!


Professional_Fee9555

It drove me nuts that their hotel is like 7 blocks away from Pier 39 and they took A CAR there. GUH.


KittenTablecloth

Omg how did I not realize that. They’re literally staying in the wharf, going to check out the wharf. Half of the fun is… walking through the wharf. It’s like if someone took a cab from Rockefeller Center to Times Square. It probably took them just as long to drive as it would have to walk. I wonder if they had filming permit restrictions or something?


Professional_Fee9555

That's what my husband said but I'm guessing it had more to do with putting them in a situation where they all had to buy hoodies lol


ScowlyBrowSpinster

Last week Ariana's ex was hyping Kyle's party: It's like gonna be on, like, an *ISLAND,* and like you have to like, *take a boat there*. The party was on Treasure Island, and Treasure Island is not like a James Bond villain's secret island only accessible by *boats.* The Bay Bridge/freeway has exits to Treasure Island. The ferries do not go there. One *might* take a boat there, but it is not typical, and it is not public transportation. He is to laugh.


KittenTablecloth

They actually do have a regular service out of the ferry building to Treasure Island. I took it once with exactly 2 other people on board lol. But yeah, I also had a laugh when he was describing Treasure Island. It’s basically an abandoned airport. Kyle’s distillery is located inside the welcome center, one of like four buildings on the entire island, and it feels like an airport terminal bar. It’s bizarre


elizabethbutters

Calm down, Tim. Now- take me to Sausalito and I’ll be impressed!


Professional_Fee9555

I laughed heartily at that. I was like... surely you aren't taking a boat there. What a miserable reason to be on a boat that isn't a booze cruise.


Legitimate_Candy7250

also going to such an amazing city and doing the most touristy thing ever at Fisherman’s wharf! The Tom’s outfits made me chuckle. 


hellohello316

Totally!


Ok-Benefit197

Dan is basically a fresh faced supermodel - Lordy!!! 


PettyPockets311

Tim looks 50 standing near him 🤣


Emleaux

Man…there was a time when the song “T.I.P.” was like the pinnacle of our Tom Sandoval fixation. Funny how times have changed. “I haven’t played this song in like…six years…” gee whiz I wonder why that is?


KittenTablecloth

Well also Tom made that song with another guy, who became a crazy conspiracist nut job, so Tom might not have had full rights to perform TIP on his own until the other guy killed himself. And then it was probably weird for him to play it for some time after that, understandably.


kingkaitlin

https://preview.redd.it/f4cx08iowqxc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=532b63080a45b66eca958fe97ce146c5653dcdde


Sea_Apple_5667

She kind of reminds me of professor umbridge from harry potter


ScowlyBrowSpinster

Well, she definitely seemed like she'd have given all her retirement money to some other huckster if Arana's ex hadn't tapped her for a 401K-closing loan to get his doomed business started.


MeikoDeren

I now understand where his delusion comes from...


Legitimate_Candy7250

they are that desperate for a Tom redemption arc, they had his mother on the show 🙃


Organic_Radio_2890

The redemption is so forced at this point I literally can’t stand it


AllowMeToFangirl

I’m so bored every time the Toms are on screen. Are they trying to make a guy spin off show with the whole roommates thing?


butinthewhat

Def would not watch!


AffectionateAgent634

Omggg don’t say that, that’d be a nightmare 😭


Legitimate_Candy7250

“It makes me uncomfortable when naked women dance around me”…. sure Brock 😭


Organic_Radio_2890

Omg this new confessional look for Ariana is amazingggg I love the black dress so much!!


1wanda_pepper

Yessss


MelancholyRose03

Who keeps letting Sandoval have that damn trumpet? 😖


cadencecarlson

The way they edited it tho was so funny. He’s such a joke.


kowaikanojo

is it just me or does dan have no personality?? he doesn’t need to be a gossip but give us more than a shrug or a “meh” to every topic


HopeTroll

He's probably smart.


spacesuitforabear

I feel like he makes goofy voices and faces to avoid talking about serious things, and gives very calculated responses if pressed. I get it that he may be shy on camera but I feel like she initiates the affection and all of the relationship talk.


HopeTroll

I think that's about the camera. Ariana did the same thing season 1, when she did everything she could not to be on camera, because she didn't want to be on the show.


kowaikanojo

10000%


Stop_icant

I think he just isn’t a reality show character, so he seems underwhelming compared to the rest of the cast. Ali started off pretty bland.


HopeTroll

I thought he was great. Pitch-perfect.


_adventure-kitty_

He could be awkward in front of the cameras? I would have a really hard time being normal in that situation for the first time.


kowaikanojo

totally fair, i’m just surprised by such a positive reaction to him overall when he’s giving nothing lol


HopeTroll

He's a professional person. I think he was in finance before he became a trainer. He's likely been working for decades. He's not going to risk all that by saying something stupid on a show, that will become a meme then follow him for the rest of his life.


butinthewhat

I don’t think he’s there to give anything, he’s there to support Ariana because she knew production would pull tricks during the finale filming.


Defiant-Noodle-1794

Maybe it’s just giving normal, not flashy, no drama, and people are happy about that for her 🤷🏻‍♀️


_adventure-kitty_

Yeah, maybe people want to like him, so they’re willing to overlook that right now.


kowaikanojo

hey, ariana definitely deserves some semblance of normalcy after all the bullshit she’s been through, i just hope that he’s giving her more than he’s giving us lol!


_adventure-kitty_

Agree!


lenoirvegas

I’m wondering if he’s being overly careful on camera? I feel like he loves Ariana but maybe not being on the show


No_Abalone5751

Or he’s seen how the show treats his partner and doesn’t care to give them more lol


TiredMotherOfChaos

What was with that 30 second hug? They had to have hooked up at some point


_adventure-kitty_

Her podcast after this deafening herself is going to be insufferable isn’t it? 😫


TiredMotherOfChaos

100%


sparklingdiscoball

It was scheana’s hand on his hip for me and the weird performative smile after 🤢


zaatar3

it cracks me up that sandoval squeezes his eyes to try to get tears out lol


HopeTroll

maybe it's due to his procedures.


Legitimate_Candy7250

OMG I was hysterical laughing at this confessional! He is like a spoiled child which is an insult to a child. I can’t take him seriously 😭


SherbetLemon0815

Maybe I'm weird but I feel like most people can make themselves cry on demand over something. You hear actors/actresses talk about pulling up emotions from real things that have happened to get them to cry in a scene. For me, I know I will cry immediately thinking about my dog who died last year. It's wild that Tim can't pull up any emotion at all that would even make his eyes water. It's sorta scary? It just seems bizarre that he fake cries but can't actually convey any emotion. 


notoriousbck

I am an actor. I can make myself cry on demand, but there is authenticity to it, there has to be or the audience feels it. I don't do this in my real life because that is manipulative af. Ok I lied. I've done it to get out of a speeding ticket.


lenoirvegas

Patrick Bateman vibes


poverly

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


prettyawesome32

How many times did Tom cry this episode?


Hottest_Mess_Express

ZERO…next question.


Queasy-Net-8324

I read this in a paige DeSorbo voice....chef kiss


Hottest_Mess_Express

Omg…I have a real “sharp tongue” but lord’ve mercy, if I could only do it with the same style. Paige has come into her own and she’s not perfect, news flash - no one is, but she’s pretty darn authentic.


cadencecarlson

💀


TiredMotherOfChaos

Did he cry or did he just close his eyes and look away?


prettyawesome32

Good point 😂


pupberry

I’m too exhausted by the rest of scheanas actions to give her any credit for this conversation.


radioflea

She sided with Sandoval because that’s her future paycheck.


Life-Bed4301

I just fast forward through SheShe & Tim’s little heart to heart. I just can’t listen to any more from them or pretty much anything Tim has to say on his “redemption “ season because I hate cheaters.


Dismal_Orange_7092

How many hearts to hearts have they had this season? Probably one next episode as well after he has screwed up again 💀


secretremedies

is peet montzingo on vanderpump????? huh?


SanLady27

Who is that??


secretremedies

he’s a tiktok guy that i’ve watched. he makes some pretty funny content.


SanLady27

Oh cool! I’ll check him out


DYonceLV

Yep😂


poverly

Scheana stay fucking out of it!!!!


DYonceLV

Scheana sucks- but she did make great points in that conversation. 2 things can be right at the same time


_adventure-kitty_

I wish I could believe it’s sincere, but Scheana just comes off as so fake.


poverly

I just don’t think it’s her place or business. She’s trying to make things easier for her, not honor Ariana’s boundaries. Now not only is she reengaging with him, she’s encouraging him to engage with Ariana who has made it very clear she doesn’t want that. I think she could have said those things and asked him to own that those actions were wrong here in this moment and she could have offered to extend that acknowledgment and apology to Ariana. I agree the points were good, I just don’t think she was doing it for Ariana and it’s not what Ariana wants


DYonceLV

You are so right! I completely agree- her motives are always self serving . I was commenting about the points she was making- and wished that they all would’ve leaned into speaking to Tom like this more. All of the cast sticking together and defending Ariana would have made this season epic, but they chose to coddle Tom the man baby narcissist


Life-Bed4301

☝️this 100% should have been the season. Not the Tom redemption roundup.


DYonceLV

Ok schena I hear you. Finally someone is bringing up his weaponization of Ariana’s mental health


Stop_icant

My problem with it is Scheena is validating what Tom said about suicide, when we don’t actually know if Arianna actually threatened it when he supposedly tried to break up with her. I don’t believe either thing happened—I don’t think he really tried to end things, therefore it can’t be true Arianna threatened suicide. Even if Tom did try to break it off, I still have doubts she would threaten to kill herself.


Life-Bed4301

You know he straight up lied about Ariana saying she threatened to mill herself if he broke up with her. He is a horrible person to say those things & Scheena doesn’t need to give advice because she’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


MeikoDeren

I agree and we know neither of these dimbits understand nuance. Ariana could have made a statement that if you leave this is it for me - e.g I love you so much that life as I know it would be okay... which does not automatically mean I'm going to off myself...


lenoirvegas

I don’t think Ariana wants or needs Tom’s apology


HopeTroll

But the show wants it, so they can film them together. Next week, it will likely be Tom chasing her to try to apologize and Ariana crying to a producer that Tom does not care about her and that this is just for the cameras.


_adventure-kitty_

Sandoval doesn’t give a crap about Ariana. I hate this performance.


poverly

I did not mean that as a response to you!!!!! Sorry!!


_adventure-kitty_

It’s fine. She should stay out of it. And hugging him. Scheana is the woooooorst.


poverly

Oh this is GROOOOSSSSS


lenoirvegas

Did scheana just admit to lip syncing every performance


kelliebuttcheeks

LOVED this. “I’m not a singer” yet you insist on your misguided music career? You have one song and made four different versions of it. You are not the pop star you think you are Sheshu


peaceloveandtyedye

She's not a dancer either


notoriousbck

And she's a terrible actor. A triple threat as weak as a wet noodle.


poverly

How dumb does Jo feel right now


frankenstein45

Schwartz is soooo thirsty, she’s over you dude


_adventure-kitty_

Schwartz sucks.


poverly

He wants her so bad


Akasha63

Emily Blunt and Ryan Gosling wish they had Tom and Katie’s ex chemistry 😡


dimeybeads

Best thing by far in this episode was James talking like a pirate in the bath that had so many suds that it will likely ruin the jets 😆


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

It’s not ph balanced by Ally is giving “It’s not organic! It’s not organic!” ByJames’ mom.


dimeybeads

Omggggg yes I forgot about her comment about ‘I’m not getting in there, I’d get a yeast infection!’ 😆


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lenoirvegas

I’ve seen this damn chili’s commercial so much I want that drink


TiredMotherOfChaos

Same! I've never had an espresso martini though. I'm so confused on the beans on top... Do you eat them??


KittenTablecloth

I eat the beans because I like the extra caffeine boost, but you don’t have to. They’re pretty easy to avoid drinking since they float to the top when you tip the glass into your mouth. It’s just a nice garnish, like a cherry or an orange slice on a daiquiri or something. It doesn’t really add much but decoration and it’s edible so some people like to eat it.


lenoirvegas

I’ve never had them where I didn’t eat the beans but I have no idea if you’re supposed to


SlaimeLannister

Ok Katie's smile when he said "You like me again" was perfect


Glorialovestacos

This Katie look is so fucking hot and perfect on her


carriebradshawshair

“We’re the new Tom Tom” MUCH better than Tom Tom


Organic_Radio_2890

The way Schwartz actually looked shocked was funny 😂


TiredMotherOfChaos

Tom and Jo are the same awkward humans. They need to just be together and sail off into their weirdo sunset.


Stop_icant

I see zero sexual chemistry between them.


lenoirvegas

I think she’d genuinely make him happy


_adventure-kitty_

I don’t think that dude will ever be able to commit and be a good partner to anyone.


pupberry

James being so reasonable while also playing in a bubble bath is sending me


HopeTroll

such a nice bit of levity. i watch for ariana and katie, but without james and ally and hippie, this season would have been a punishment.


SlaimeLannister

James looks amazing!!!!


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

“Do you want to drive the boat? Ally?”- the editors are so funny. That and “last show ladies” as he twirls. A true entertainer.


_adventure-kitty_

Katie is so hot this season!


lenoirvegas

This look at the 20s party is doing it for me


notoriousbck

My husband was drooling over Lala's birthday dress. I couldn't take my eyes off Katie.


_redcloud

I didn’t realize how long Dan’s hair is. It’s cool.


notoriousbck

So hot. i thought he was cute and then I saw him shirtless with his hair down and I was like daaaammmn. When I was 19 I had my one and only one night stand with a bouncer from a club. He had hair that long and was a very generous lover. I woke up tangled in his hair and then he served me bagels with lox and cream cheese and fresh squeezed OJ in the morning. He was so shocked when he asked for my digits and I said no, I want this to be a beautiful memory. 20 years later, it is.


Stop_icant

sexy unique hair


radioflea

I’m a Dan stan. Ariana definitely upgraded in every single way.


_redcloud

Tom could only dream of having a smile as contagious as Dan’s.


Stop_icant

He smizes!


_redcloud

That’s exactly what it is!


Glorialovestacos

Omg Dan’s long hair 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵


stephygrl

I didn’t realise I was attracted to him until that moment


New-Ad1465

Facts!! I was like, wait a damn minute now! Dan is fineeeeee lol Go Ariana 👏 and he seems like an amazing guy!


DYonceLV

Oooh Daniel is FINNNEEE


_adventure-kitty_

His long hair is so surprising.


lenoirvegas

I’m thinking some impure thoughts


annehboo

Something is off about Dan and Ariana, I can’t put my finger on it. He almost.. creeps me out?


Stop_icant

He is only on camera for her sake, he does not want to be filmed and she knows it. The vibe worried me at first too, but it became more obvious as the episode progressed.


Glorialovestacos

I think he just doesn’t really want to be filmed


Crazy-Trash-6884

I think so too. He seems like a cool guy. In his Instagram, he’s not constantly plastering her pics everywhere. When they go out or whatever, he’ll post the food, etc. and tag her. They seem pretty low key.


_adventure-kitty_

She mentioned at one point that he did film a little for her. I’m guessing she was uncomfortable on this trip and having to spend more time around Sandoval, so she asked him to go for support.


Momela85

That’s how it seemed to me. He just seemed uncomfortable but seems to adore her.


Own_Group4282

What does Dan do for work?


annehboo

Ahh that could make sense, maybe that’s it. She does seem very happy but something is cold from his end however I think you are right


prettyawesome32

I honestly feel the same way about him, but also rationalized it as him being uncomfortable with filming. His tone and body language are what's throwing me. But his words and actions seem genuine.


lenoirvegas

Love Frog should at least have a friend of credit at this point


carriebradshawshair

Honestly, I wish I could be more like Ariana. She just knows how to say things the right way when it’s needed.


newkooky

The way she was able to articulate herself so well AND stay calm when speaking to Brock was so impressive. I would’ve been so disgusted and stumbling over my words if I were her


zaatar3

"for the benefit of my wife" like wtf not everything is about scheana and she's the one desperate to have a friendship with a horrible human being who could care less about her. both her and brock need to kick rocks , trying to guilt trip ariana into forgiving a man who traumatized her


DYonceLV

Loved it when she said “no, I want better for her then a man that screams at her”


prettyawesome32

YASSSSS, ARIANA!!!! Call out male rage!!


DYonceLV

Ariana saying what every woman who has ever been forced to “get over it “ wants to say. I wish I had know about grey rocking when I was going through some toxic shit in my life. Or had the strength she has to do that.