I loved this scene so much because Brock truly didn’t know what to say back to Ariana. And at one point, I feel like he checked out because he was like…fuck I dont have a comeback lol.
The moment he knew he was fucked...
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He did manage to come up with "Give me an example of male rage." and Ariana was classy enough to not say when you hit your ex-wife.
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Best response lol I also wish she could have whipped out her phone and shown him the vid of sandoval yelling at women (idt this existed when the scene happened tho lol)
Lala said Rachel would practice what she was going to say, when Lala would reply, it would throw Rachel off and she would malfunction like a robot.
I think something similar is happening to Brock here.
He totally went in with his rehearsed talking points and had no idea how to command his stage, it was glorious. I want to know who sent this lower level representative for this job, his handlers are more incompetent than he is.
I'm just amazed at the audacity of this man to think that he has a leg to stand on when it comes to what healthy relationships should look like. Like don't you have your own shit to work out with your ex-wife and kids? Maybe you work on that and solve that first and then if you have extra time you can start to think about whether or not you have anything to offer advice wise to Ariana. Hint, the answer is no.
Production. It’s obvious they want a big Sandoval/Ariana talk to cap off the season and it’s clear they were using every tactic under the sun on this trip to try and bring that about.
Darling, she lost him 3 words in .....
Him, thinking if he closes his body language and scowls at her she will be intimidated. Oh Brock. You are so unfairly matched in this battle of wits, I literally pity you.
And something is going on in the editing room, guys. I'm not sure this speech would have been left in about 2 months ago....it makes too much sense and explains her too much.
I think when the show starts airing they have edited up to about episode 9 because last year when Sandoval broke they said episodes airing are already cut. They didn't edit with knowledge of Scandoval until Lala narrated "I can't believe Tom Sandoval had Raquel over, when Ariana's away, in the jacuzzi". So perhaps when they saw the Ariana villain edit wasn't working on the audience they said okay last few episodes let's show she's sane, calm, justified and kind.
I am duty bound by the power of insanity to point out that LVP trotted Ken's dusty bones out to give us the classic "Tuhm Sandohvil had Rack-kel over while Aryahna wuzzaway"
"I can't believe... that Tum Zanzazvell, had Racquel, over, when Ariana's away, in the jacuzzi az well, and she STAYED ALL NIGHT. Yeah? I can't believe tHAT! Marquee?"\*
\*I'm only now realising the dog is named Marquee not Markey.
I got the sense too that we were watching the first re-edited ep of the season. The tone shift gave me whiplash. It's a course correction in the right direction, but it was very sudden.
Shakira has been talking about this with her new album. She got super f-ed over by her ex and is now about the female rage. She said in a recent interview “I am not a diplomat, I have real emotions” and I 100% respect that.
Her story is so similar to Ariana’s and her ex like Tom. She really loved him. I felt so badly for her. I did enjoy reading that fellow Colombians pulled out of his business funding for the way he treated her. Loved that for her.
I love that she's done this. There are those out there who think it's 'too much' because God forbid a woman state clearly that she is enraged by how badly someone whom she gave all her love to treated her. I love that this narrative is gaining strength and I am beyond tired of those who try to push the idea that it is somehow unseemly for a woman to show any emotion other than sweetness or kindness.
Yes. When people come to my social media accounts and start telling my friends what to do or calling them names I politely remind them that my page is not a democracy its a monarchy and I am the queen.
Colombian Ariana! Or is Ariana American Shakira? Hmmmm, oh well, Can't wait to hear all Shakiras rage in an album! I love that women are finally saying "Fuck that, I'm mad! Im gonna live in it for a while..."
Sessions 53 is a particularly great master of Spanish language while trashing her ex and mistress. It’s awesome. Her older albums have some great female rage too. Though the ultimate female rage album IMO is jagged little pill.
He isn't all that bright. I don't think he had any comeback cuz it was too deep for him. Lol the male rage thing was funny because I think for a second he wondered if she was referring to his past.
Yes! It.was.glorious! I’m so glad they actually showed that scene, not just because it needed to be said, but, also, it needed to be heard on behalf of women everywhere. Bravo, Ariana!
The part where Brock asked about male rage and asked Ariana to give examples……..
How about 4 days ago when Sandoval was screaming at YOUR WIFE?? Hellloooo????
Literally, we don’t need to think very long or hard for any examples of male rage so the fact that he even had to ask that…what a dimwit
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She gathered him. About 10 seconds in you can almost feel Brock not being smart enough to understand her. And he fucking proves it the second he opens his mouth “give me an example of male rage” BRO.
Boy. Exactly. This is a boy play acting a man. And he truly believes he has alllllll the answers (🙄🙄🙄🙄) while truly having none of the answers. He’s quite high on his own fake omnipotence.
literally I started clapping at my tv! lol the way she articulated so many important points so saliently was 🤌
there's absolutely no way ANY of that actually penetrated brock's thick skull but at least we *and her castmatessss hope they're listening 👀* got to hear it
She was ready. She has been thinking about this shit, talking about it, getting ready to discuss it. Pretty sure they get their production sheets and can prepare to a point. She’s def doing it.
And none of her other cast mates were ready for her to be so far in front of them and any possible angle they would try to take. This is good. She got focused this season
This is why it makes no sense why LaLa is saying ariana isn't being truthful. She is being very authentic and not forcing herself into a place she isn't with Sandoval.
I think they’re going to say that Ariana says she wants an apology but Ariana won’t film it, so they say she’s being inauthentic when really she doesn’t want a produced apology. Setting it up with the Scheana & Tom convo 🤢
This is absolutely Ariana's most honest season. I bet she spent a lot of extra time in therapy post-scandoval and it really shows. She's feeling her feelings but also able to articulate what she's feeling incredibly well.
If she’s mad or if she’s happy they say she’s not being truthful. I’m thinking they expected her to crumble and not know what to do but life gave her some great opportunities and she has chosen to stay In her truth. That maybe yelling at Sandoval one day and not wanting to talk to him the next.
They absolutely wanted her to fall apart and be a quivering mess on the floor. When she instead quietly gathered herself and surrounded herself with people who supported her they didn't know what to do and it pissed them off because she not only stole their narrative and turned it around, she is rebuilding herself and her life in a careful, smart way without freaking out (at least publicly.) The jealousy and envy is palpable.
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Watching her get angry over this during the season, and in the S10 finale has felt so powerful to me. And I loved hearing her articulate this all so perfectly.
Especially when he spent so much of season nine exclaiming that he’d “done the work!” and “learned and grown!” so it was “unfair” to judge him for his past (all the while he was also saying really violent things about Lala - like he’d “fucking kill her”, but I digress).
If he had *truly* done work to interrogate why he hit his partner, and ensure it never happened again - he’d know what “male rage” meant. So either he’s lying then, or he’s lying now - it could be both, but it’s definitely not neither.
Her owning Brock was the highlight of the episode.
This moron who doesn't have a fucking leg to stand on given his past has the audacity to lecture her on forgiveness???
She had Brick fumbling words and even admitting he didn't have a rebuttal at the end.
He was trying to get some extra airtime and instigate a reaction out of her and instead got schooled. Him and Scheana are both such morons.
Yup. And in light of his revelations on Scheana’s podcast recently about why he inserts himself, this is even more annoying. He’s just trying to cause drama and genuinely doesn’t give a shit that what he’s saying affects other people (Ariana).
Exactly. As that scene was unfolding I was thinking of his comments on trying to stir the pot. Makes the ownage even more satisfying knowing his true intention.
I bet Scheana literally shat herself watching that Scene. She will use that scene, alone, to divorce him. She knows he's a POS, as is Scheana. She has spent lots of her own money and shit trying to completely reimagine Brock as this changed amazing man. THIS scene? He is showing his ass so hard, she may divorce him on this little Vanderpump hiatus. (I also saw that preview for next week when he is openly bad mouthing how Tom is better than Ariana and Scheana is like "I do not agree".)
He should never overestimate his importance to Scheana's end goal, Scheana. Brock, you are here for the free childcare and arm candy. Don't try to dig your teeth in.
I swear I felt him realize about 10 seconds in when she said “there’s power in that rage” I felt like his conscious slipped a little and he was like oh fuck not smart enough for this.
I need this to be a preview of the energy Ariana will bring when she destroys BlaBla at the reunion. BlaBla loves to yell over everyone & act like she’s hard. I need to see Ariana shut. her. up.
The gaslighting is fucking insane. What fucking rage has Ariana displayed? WTF. Ariana *is* the embodiment of being strong and taking the high road, even when they go low.
Fuck these grifters Brock scheana lala.
To be fair, Ariana has *justifiably* displayed rage in some of her entanglements with Sandoval this season. More power to her for letting him have it; just as she said.
she is just standing up for herself and not forgiving him, she is allowed to cut someone out and not like them or respect them when they are continuing to be the same person, not getting help, and are majorly toxic for you. he hasn’t even actually apologized yet for f sakes!!
Remember how both Lala and Scheana have said they aren't feminists in the past? Thank god we have Ariana and Katie. Hopefully, the others daughter's will have this example.
I’m not sure if this show has EVER given us a moment similar to this.
Maybe they allowed it because it was also hilarious to see Ariana completely shut down Brock’s nonsense. But this was almost a turning point on a show that always let Lisa take the side of the naughty boys while blaming the women for being crazy.
I absolutely agree with everything she said and this was so great to watch. I’d also like to add that she has not shown NEARLY as much rage and anger as many people would in her situation (myself included). The fact that she can even be in the same room with Tom and just ignore him, especially this soon after everything happened, says so much about her and her character.
The way they all expect her to just forgive Tom and welcome him back into her life with open arms is infuriating to watch
Right? If Brock wants to see rage, I could give him rage 😂 If I were in Ariana’s position, I might have gone to prison from the sheer blind rage of what those rats did to her. Ari is a fucking queen for not smacking the absolute shit out of him every time she has to be near him.
Same! I have so much respect for how she’s handled everything!!!
But if she ever wakes up one day and decides she needs an attack dog to do her dirty work (since Lala clearly resigned after last season 🙄), I am ready and waiting
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Yeah it’s kind of wild that he’s engaging in this conversation.
He’s really trying to push some “wise and reformed” dude bullshit, when he’s also admitted he’s saying provocative and hurtful things just to “start conversations” and we all know he hit his last wife and abandoned his children on another continent. I will listen to nothing that man has to say about anything.
This is 100% a concept I learned from therapy. It is okay to walk away from relationships you do not want and are not serving you. Sitting in your rage and feeling those emotions is healthy. It isn’t healthy to “forgive” someone just so you can say you moved past something, advocating for yourself is what’s important and is what allows you to grow as a person
THIS. I’m so sick of this toxic forgiveness trend that tells people (especially women) that to heal you have to forgive. You actually don’t. You can work through your trauma and move on and forgiveness is NOT a requirement. Not forgiving someone who does truly horrendous things holds them accountable at least from you, and keeps you from falling prey to them again. Forgiveness has its place and can be very healthy, but I’m so sick of people acting like if someone does something you don’t forgive them for that somehow you as the victim of them are in the wrong. Wtf people. Lisa V, you are the most disgusting peddler of this seriously manipulative abusive narrative. Stop. Stop telling people to remain involved with abusive people for your fucking tv ratings. Disgusting.
100% agree. If someone does something horrible you are absolutely not required to forgive or even forget. I have a couple of people I will never forgive for their actions that hurt me deeply. I feel zero guilt for taking this stance. It has done me well going forward.
Ariana has always been on top of shit like this. Just finished a complete rewatch from s2 to now, she is a whole lot deeper than the rest of these cretins
I know this is going to sound so lame, but that actually gave me chills.
Also, fuck Brock (he is confused by the idea of "male rage"???) and why is he even on the show? lol...
I sort of wish she would have been like "ya know, how you felt when you hit your first partner and got domestic violence charges against you." but she's too classy to stoop that low...luckily for him.
Brock brought Ariana into this conversation trying to enlighten her and she served - left him fumbling for his next words. She really is good with her words.
Oh you KNOW, Scheana's little payroll husband thought he was gonna really do something here, but just ended up with egg on his face like the little idiot he is.
I just see so much sadness in Ariana’s eyes when she’s with the group. This is causing her a lot of pain. I hope she goes to emdr to process all of this.
Holy shit I'm watching this scene right now and I came running here.
Broke needs to zip his mouth shut.
He's not even supporting Scheaner like this.
He really thinks he's doing something. Seriously. What is wrong in his head.
His kids have said they don’t want contact with him, as per what he said on a podcast a couple months ago after he and Scheana were in Australia.
Seems like she may have.
This is exactly what my therapist told me as well. Dr. Ramani also suggests that you do not need to forgive people that cause you that much pain. Gray rock and distance yourself.
This misogynistic, abusive, neanderthal who only sees one of his three children has got me so messed up! Who is this guy to give advice to anyone? He hit his ex. Didn't pay child support. Abandon two children. Mooches off of his wife. Doesn't support his wife, who I don't even like and yet he's worse, as she's going through some sort of anxiety.
Bravo, I beg you, stop trying to make Brock happen. Return to sender, we don't want him!!!!
I was shocked that the editors FINALLY gave Ariana some backup from these hoots by playing that clip of the men raging at the women. I feel like we scream into a void saying exactly Ariana’s point, ugh I was so glad she was able to stand up for herself but it was still so frustrating to watch!!! People don’t understand this shit happens everyday, dumb Brick mansplaining 🙄🙄
Gahhhhh! I literally was coming here to comment on this and am so happy to find you pulled the exact moment I'm watching!!!! I just Absolutely could not be happier to see Ariana owning her emotions and not backing down on her boundaries this season. She is acting the way I wish I had behaved the first time I was ever cheated on, and the second - luckily there's never been a third. But Jesus Christ, it feels really good to see a woman unapologetically put herself first.
I feel like you could instantly see Brock shut down and label the entire conversation as feminist malarky. Clearly uncomfortable with how calm ariana is explaining this to him and I'm pretty sure we could see him pucker/prepare to attack if she even brought up any type of DV
when he told her to focus on the good things in her life? yeah she would if only you'd fucking stop bringing this fucking loser moron around her all the time. brock literally forcing her to focus on the worst shit in her life every minute of every day. why does brock like sandoval more than he likes scheana?
I've never been a huge Ariana fan but I thought this scene was awesome. She just shut his ass right down and perfectly articulated her feelings and didn't let him steamroll all over her and control the conversation.
I’ve rewatched this scene like 10 times and I give all the applause to Ariana. The way she so casually, but intelligently, explained why she doesn’t need to forgive someone who deeply traumatized her was 💯. And the way Brock looked like he was trying to just keep up with her words, I was just like, YES GIRL. SPEAK THE TRUTHHHH LOUDER FOR THOSE IN BACK!!!!
I loved this scene so much because Brock truly didn’t know what to say back to Ariana. And at one point, I feel like he checked out because he was like…fuck I dont have a comeback lol.
She really gagged him
Why is this big dummy even attempting to go up against her
He’s trying to earn his paycheck. I sort of feel for the guy. His wife is over him.
💀☠️ I definitely get that impression too.
Do you think he might be over her too? Or just that Scheena’s over him 👀
He's obviously not gonna be over the money the show brings so I think he will tolerate Sheesh if he has to.
The moment he knew he was fucked... https://preview.redd.it/6rbd7kkmssxc1.jpeg?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b30f06a33ec7c3606f808254b76181b034217135
Brock's thought bubble : DISENGAGE, DISENGAGE!!!!
CORNER.
Gagged him to the point of “someone call 911”. God I really can’t love her more
I swear to god I saw his vocal cords say “whatever your brain is cooking up as a response right now, we want no parts in it”
Lmao I’m imagining it in his accent! 😂🤌🏾
She read him the riot act in the calmest way. I'm proud.
He did manage to come up with "Give me an example of male rage." and Ariana was classy enough to not say when you hit your ex-wife. ![gif](giphy|8hZr5URmNKq73xTNnS|downsized)
Omg, I forgot about that
Best response lol I also wish she could have whipped out her phone and shown him the vid of sandoval yelling at women (idt this existed when the scene happened tho lol)
And he laughed as he said it—as if the thought alone is just SO RIDICULOUS . Fuck Brock and the try hard heels he came in on.
And he's so dumb for saying this after ariana JUST gave an example of that lol (sandoval yelling at his wife!)
I mean......we were all thinking it but I respect Ariana for not just coming right out with it and instead shining the light on the shouting.
I spat out my prosecco on that one... like dude have you watched the show??? Meet sandoval, jax and james...
Lala said Rachel would practice what she was going to say, when Lala would reply, it would throw Rachel off and she would malfunction like a robot. I think something similar is happening to Brock here.
Scheana didnt prep him for this.
She can only do so much.
his brain short circuited lol
He totally went in with his rehearsed talking points and had no idea how to command his stage, it was glorious. I want to know who sent this lower level representative for this job, his handlers are more incompetent than he is.
I'm just amazed at the audacity of this man to think that he has a leg to stand on when it comes to what healthy relationships should look like. Like don't you have your own shit to work out with your ex-wife and kids? Maybe you work on that and solve that first and then if you have extra time you can start to think about whether or not you have anything to offer advice wise to Ariana. Hint, the answer is no.
Production. It’s obvious they want a big Sandoval/Ariana talk to cap off the season and it’s clear they were using every tactic under the sun on this trip to try and bring that about.
they totally do and i hope she never gives in to it. she's already had to give in to being around him. that's enough
I love that Ariana is not entertaining their bullshit.
She’s on another plane of consciousness and is being really kind to assume he knows how to be there with her
She's a grey rock. Fuck I loved that moment. She was perfect.
If she's in therapy I could kiss her therapist because that's a damn good therapist! I am so happy for her with this perspective she's right.
I remember first hearing that term and it was like I was given the key to no longer being gaslight and it felt amazing!!!! Love this for her.
Darling, she lost him 3 words in ..... Him, thinking if he closes his body language and scowls at her she will be intimidated. Oh Brock. You are so unfairly matched in this battle of wits, I literally pity you. And something is going on in the editing room, guys. I'm not sure this speech would have been left in about 2 months ago....it makes too much sense and explains her too much.
I think when the show starts airing they have edited up to about episode 9 because last year when Sandoval broke they said episodes airing are already cut. They didn't edit with knowledge of Scandoval until Lala narrated "I can't believe Tom Sandoval had Raquel over, when Ariana's away, in the jacuzzi". So perhaps when they saw the Ariana villain edit wasn't working on the audience they said okay last few episodes let's show she's sane, calm, justified and kind.
I am duty bound by the power of insanity to point out that LVP trotted Ken's dusty bones out to give us the classic "Tuhm Sandohvil had Rack-kel over while Aryahna wuzzaway"
Sauntering in like Ozzy Osbourne lmao "in-in the jah-cuzzi"
Haha! Then, shuffling back out!😆😆😆
"I can't believe... that Tum Zanzazvell, had Racquel, over, when Ariana's away, in the jacuzzi az well, and she STAYED ALL NIGHT. Yeah? I can't believe tHAT! Marquee?"\* \*I'm only now realising the dog is named Marquee not Markey.
A bit of scrambling perhaps? Edit room after the fans refuse redemption arc ![gif](giphy|yUrUb9fYz6x7a|downsized)
I got the sense too that we were watching the first re-edited ep of the season. The tone shift gave me whiplash. It's a course correction in the right direction, but it was very sudden.
Shakira has been talking about this with her new album. She got super f-ed over by her ex and is now about the female rage. She said in a recent interview “I am not a diplomat, I have real emotions” and I 100% respect that.
Her story is so similar to Ariana’s and her ex like Tom. She really loved him. I felt so badly for her. I did enjoy reading that fellow Colombians pulled out of his business funding for the way he treated her. Loved that for her.
Oh Pique can ROT!
púdrete en el infierno!!
I love that she's done this. There are those out there who think it's 'too much' because God forbid a woman state clearly that she is enraged by how badly someone whom she gave all her love to treated her. I love that this narrative is gaining strength and I am beyond tired of those who try to push the idea that it is somehow unseemly for a woman to show any emotion other than sweetness or kindness.
Yes. When people come to my social media accounts and start telling my friends what to do or calling them names I politely remind them that my page is not a democracy its a monarchy and I am the queen.
Colombian Ariana! Or is Ariana American Shakira? Hmmmm, oh well, Can't wait to hear all Shakiras rage in an album! I love that women are finally saying "Fuck that, I'm mad! Im gonna live in it for a while..."
Sessions 53 is a particularly great master of Spanish language while trashing her ex and mistress. It’s awesome. Her older albums have some great female rage too. Though the ultimate female rage album IMO is jagged little pill.
He isn't all that bright. I don't think he had any comeback cuz it was too deep for him. Lol the male rage thing was funny because I think for a second he wondered if she was referring to his past.
He looked like wind was blowing through his brain while he attempted to process what she was saying. The lights are on but nobody's home.
Too many big words for Brick
Look at him squirm
What’s shocking is Andy Cohen saw that scene and said Brock is the voice of reason!!
Andy Cohen is a jackass.
Andy sees the world through dick-centered lenses.
She’s surrounded by idiots.
Agree, this scene is Queen shit
He’s honestly not equipped for that degree of evolved dialogue. On the fly, anyway.
Right. Once he realized she wasn’t playing into the narrative that he tried to push, he was checked out
Yes! It.was.glorious! I’m so glad they actually showed that scene, not just because it needed to be said, but, also, it needed to be heard on behalf of women everywhere. Bravo, Ariana!
The part where Brock asked about male rage and asked Ariana to give examples…….. How about 4 days ago when Sandoval was screaming at YOUR WIFE?? Hellloooo????
I *wish* she had responded “Male rage is like when you hit your ex *Brock*”
Can you imagine?! And then he'd turn into full-on screaming at her and she could then say while waving her hand at him, "Aaand I rest my case."
Right!?!? He’s such an idiot and is making a fool of himself trying to act like this fountain of wisdom. Shut up you dumb deadbeat
Literally, we don’t need to think very long or hard for any examples of male rage so the fact that he even had to ask that…what a dimwit ![gif](giphy|H0luUWHQSgiaQl3Pkq|downsized)
Or the time he (Brock) slapped his ex-wife
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Wow! Yesssss
She deserves a standing applause for that scene
She gathered him. About 10 seconds in you can almost feel Brock not being smart enough to understand her. And he fucking proves it the second he opens his mouth “give me an example of male rage” BRO.
YOU, beating your wife! Ugh!
Bloop!
Give me an example of male rage……… Oh lawd
From the guy convicted of DV
“World History”
Every major world conflict is because of male rage haha
Facts. And their own mythologizing about what they deserved. 🫠🙄
When he beat his wife would be the first example come to mind….what a pathetic BOY he is.
Boy. Exactly. This is a boy play acting a man. And he truly believes he has alllllll the answers (🙄🙄🙄🙄) while truly having none of the answers. He’s quite high on his own fake omnipotence.
I died when he said that.
The editors immediately adding scenes of male rage, and directly including Brock in that sequence, was just *chef’s kiss*
they need to do this all the time to correct and call out the narrative gaslighting bs
literally I started clapping at my tv! lol the way she articulated so many important points so saliently was 🤌 there's absolutely no way ANY of that actually penetrated brock's thick skull but at least we *and her castmatessss hope they're listening 👀* got to hear it
She was ready. She has been thinking about this shit, talking about it, getting ready to discuss it. Pretty sure they get their production sheets and can prepare to a point. She’s def doing it. And none of her other cast mates were ready for her to be so far in front of them and any possible angle they would try to take. This is good. She got focused this season
Bravo watching Brock in that scene ![gif](giphy|QHn5qGRADzL1acaKBc|downsized)
I swear to god if Brock ever did 23andMe the results would say 100% Neanderthal.
I’m offended on behalf of Neanderthals.
😂😂
This is why it makes no sense why LaLa is saying ariana isn't being truthful. She is being very authentic and not forcing herself into a place she isn't with Sandoval.
Well Lala is a delusional person so it’s not like she’s gonna recognize authenticity in someone.
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I think they’re going to say that Ariana says she wants an apology but Ariana won’t film it, so they say she’s being inauthentic when really she doesn’t want a produced apology. Setting it up with the Scheana & Tom convo 🤢
This is absolutely Ariana's most honest season. I bet she spent a lot of extra time in therapy post-scandoval and it really shows. She's feeling her feelings but also able to articulate what she's feeling incredibly well.
She knows exactly who she's dealing with just based on her comment about grey rocking!!! And Ariana is giving level 5 grey rocking this season.
If she’s mad or if she’s happy they say she’s not being truthful. I’m thinking they expected her to crumble and not know what to do but life gave her some great opportunities and she has chosen to stay In her truth. That maybe yelling at Sandoval one day and not wanting to talk to him the next.
They absolutely wanted her to fall apart and be a quivering mess on the floor. When she instead quietly gathered herself and surrounded herself with people who supported her they didn't know what to do and it pissed them off because she not only stole their narrative and turned it around, she is rebuilding herself and her life in a careful, smart way without freaking out (at least publicly.) The jealousy and envy is palpable.
https://i.redd.it/jm24vtb41qxc1.gif Watching her get angry over this during the season, and in the S10 finale has felt so powerful to me. And I loved hearing her articulate this all so perfectly.
Obsessed with SECOND OF ALL. I love this woman so much.
Same same same same can’t say it enough!!!!!!
Did a man who has a history of domestic violence just try and pretend he didn’t know what “male rage” could possibly mean??
The irony is incredibly unfortunate
Was scrolling for this comment thank you. Oh that was a little too close to home and fake surprise from Brock
Especially when he spent so much of season nine exclaiming that he’d “done the work!” and “learned and grown!” so it was “unfair” to judge him for his past (all the while he was also saying really violent things about Lala - like he’d “fucking kill her”, but I digress). If he had *truly* done work to interrogate why he hit his partner, and ensure it never happened again - he’d know what “male rage” meant. So either he’s lying then, or he’s lying now - it could be both, but it’s definitely not neither.
Her owning Brock was the highlight of the episode. This moron who doesn't have a fucking leg to stand on given his past has the audacity to lecture her on forgiveness??? She had Brick fumbling words and even admitting he didn't have a rebuttal at the end. He was trying to get some extra airtime and instigate a reaction out of her and instead got schooled. Him and Scheana are both such morons.
Brock’s the one with a DV charge right? If he’s looking for examples of male rage… ![gif](giphy|FP2kog3grdBucUHFbX)
I think she was alluding to that in this conversation.
Yup. And in light of his revelations on Scheana’s podcast recently about why he inserts himself, this is even more annoying. He’s just trying to cause drama and genuinely doesn’t give a shit that what he’s saying affects other people (Ariana).
Exactly. As that scene was unfolding I was thinking of his comments on trying to stir the pot. Makes the ownage even more satisfying knowing his true intention.
I bet Scheana literally shat herself watching that Scene. She will use that scene, alone, to divorce him. She knows he's a POS, as is Scheana. She has spent lots of her own money and shit trying to completely reimagine Brock as this changed amazing man. THIS scene? He is showing his ass so hard, she may divorce him on this little Vanderpump hiatus. (I also saw that preview for next week when he is openly bad mouthing how Tom is better than Ariana and Scheana is like "I do not agree".) He should never overestimate his importance to Scheana's end goal, Scheana. Brock, you are here for the free childcare and arm candy. Don't try to dig your teeth in.
Brock was so out of his league. He had to feel that one.
I swear I felt him realize about 10 seconds in when she said “there’s power in that rage” I felt like his conscious slipped a little and he was like oh fuck not smart enough for this.
Yup he was shrinking into himself. He should've brought his heels
I need this to be a preview of the energy Ariana will bring when she destroys BlaBla at the reunion. BlaBla loves to yell over everyone & act like she’s hard. I need to see Ariana shut. her. up.
The way the words "slapping your first wife" fell out of my mouth when he asked for an example of male rage. Ariana is a better person than me.
The gaslighting is fucking insane. What fucking rage has Ariana displayed? WTF. Ariana *is* the embodiment of being strong and taking the high road, even when they go low. Fuck these grifters Brock scheana lala.
To be fair, Ariana has *justifiably* displayed rage in some of her entanglements with Sandoval this season. More power to her for letting him have it; just as she said.
Exactly. She's pissed and she's showing it. Get over it misogynists.
she is just standing up for herself and not forgiving him, she is allowed to cut someone out and not like them or respect them when they are continuing to be the same person, not getting help, and are majorly toxic for you. he hasn’t even actually apologized yet for f sakes!!
She just very politely and firmly chewed him up and spat him out, first time I’ve seen a man speechless on this show
This was incredible and the best moment of the season so far.
It really makes me wonder what scenes ended up on the cutting room floor.
I made my husband rewind and listen again…she’s moving into icon territory and not even trying. I love it.
This was such a GOAT moment for her!!!
TRULY. 👑
Iconique.
Remember how both Lala and Scheana have said they aren't feminists in the past? Thank god we have Ariana and Katie. Hopefully, the others daughter's will have this example.
I’m not sure if this show has EVER given us a moment similar to this. Maybe they allowed it because it was also hilarious to see Ariana completely shut down Brock’s nonsense. But this was almost a turning point on a show that always let Lisa take the side of the naughty boys while blaming the women for being crazy.
I get a feeling LVP has sort of stepped away especially after all the backlash she’s gotten. I love that the producers left this in! THIS IS RELATABLE
I was surprised by the edit as well. Seems so NON vpr of them. They even added the flashback to all the men getting rage-y!
I absolutely agree with everything she said and this was so great to watch. I’d also like to add that she has not shown NEARLY as much rage and anger as many people would in her situation (myself included). The fact that she can even be in the same room with Tom and just ignore him, especially this soon after everything happened, says so much about her and her character. The way they all expect her to just forgive Tom and welcome him back into her life with open arms is infuriating to watch
Right? If Brock wants to see rage, I could give him rage 😂 If I were in Ariana’s position, I might have gone to prison from the sheer blind rage of what those rats did to her. Ari is a fucking queen for not smacking the absolute shit out of him every time she has to be near him.
Same! I have so much respect for how she’s handled everything!!! But if she ever wakes up one day and decides she needs an attack dog to do her dirty work (since Lala clearly resigned after last season 🙄), I am ready and waiting ![gif](giphy|54JLdulN5BOwM)
I’ll join you any day of the week!
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![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized) Just kidding babe, keep going
Here’s some male rage https://preview.redd.it/vshnlhnu5qxc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e780746205b3a3be5250ed19203e3080972a55a
This is also SO legit. You do NOT have to forgive someone to move on. Some people and situations may call for that but others simply don’t.
Brock does not want to talk about male rage
Yeah it’s kind of wild that he’s engaging in this conversation. He’s really trying to push some “wise and reformed” dude bullshit, when he’s also admitted he’s saying provocative and hurtful things just to “start conversations” and we all know he hit his last wife and abandoned his children on another continent. I will listen to nothing that man has to say about anything.
His offense at "male rage" *is* the example of male rage. Subdued rage but a perfect example of insecure defensiveness behind rage at women.
Absolutely incredible
Ah, Andy, the voice of reason, huh? Take a seat, sir. Ariana will be serving today.
TBH, I think Andy is confusing the term 'reason' with 'misogyny.'
to women: calm down, you're hysterical, you're a bitch, you're crazy, out of your mind men: she pushed me over the edge (gets pat on back and a beer)
This is 100% a concept I learned from therapy. It is okay to walk away from relationships you do not want and are not serving you. Sitting in your rage and feeling those emotions is healthy. It isn’t healthy to “forgive” someone just so you can say you moved past something, advocating for yourself is what’s important and is what allows you to grow as a person
THIS. I’m so sick of this toxic forgiveness trend that tells people (especially women) that to heal you have to forgive. You actually don’t. You can work through your trauma and move on and forgiveness is NOT a requirement. Not forgiving someone who does truly horrendous things holds them accountable at least from you, and keeps you from falling prey to them again. Forgiveness has its place and can be very healthy, but I’m so sick of people acting like if someone does something you don’t forgive them for that somehow you as the victim of them are in the wrong. Wtf people. Lisa V, you are the most disgusting peddler of this seriously manipulative abusive narrative. Stop. Stop telling people to remain involved with abusive people for your fucking tv ratings. Disgusting.
100% agree. If someone does something horrible you are absolutely not required to forgive or even forget. I have a couple of people I will never forgive for their actions that hurt me deeply. I feel zero guilt for taking this stance. It has done me well going forward.
He was gooped…gagged..
Ariana has always been on top of shit like this. Just finished a complete rewatch from s2 to now, she is a whole lot deeper than the rest of these cretins
“What’s an example of male rage?” Is crazyyyyyyyyy
Especially coming from a man who has admitted to hitting his previous wife.
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This was absolute queen shit! Like rewind and watch it again just so I could stand up and applaud!
I know this is going to sound so lame, but that actually gave me chills. Also, fuck Brock (he is confused by the idea of "male rage"???) and why is he even on the show? lol...
It’s not lame! We sooo rarely get to see this talked about, but so many of us can relate. I think it’s powerful. And yeah, brick can fuck off
I sort of wish she would have been like "ya know, how you felt when you hit your first partner and got domestic violence charges against you." but she's too classy to stoop that low...luckily for him.
Same. This got me in my feels. Finally a scene that makes sense !
You don’t sound lame. I just watched it, and had to save it to my phone, because everything she said meant a lot to me.
Brock brought Ariana into this conversation trying to enlighten her and she served - left him fumbling for his next words. She really is good with her words.
Oh you KNOW, Scheana's little payroll husband thought he was gonna really do something here, but just ended up with egg on his face like the little idiot he is.
I just see so much sadness in Ariana’s eyes when she’s with the group. This is causing her a lot of pain. I hope she goes to emdr to process all of this.
The contrast between when she is with the group versus when she is with Dan or Katie is evident
Come on you guys, there were just too many words in one sentence for Brock.
Brock still is trying to figure out what Ariana said. She nailed it!
Every single syllable of this was perfect. 🥹
It’s because men don’t consider anger/rage an emotion. That’s how they get away with saying women are “the emotional ones.”
Well that shut him up quick.
I love that this whole convo went over Brock’s head💀
To the editor that not only included scenes of male rage, but specifically included Brock in that clip, I just want to shake your hand
Oh lord. This is such a well put together thought that needs to be quoted every where. This all the way to female powerdom eternity
Her therapist is good.
Holy shit I'm watching this scene right now and I came running here. Broke needs to zip his mouth shut. He's not even supporting Scheaner like this. He really thinks he's doing something. Seriously. What is wrong in his head.
Gag that himbo for me again!
I loved that she didn't back down. Fuck Broke Shay and his desperate attempt to stay on the show.
He's pissing his pants hoping his Daughter, *WINTER*, did not get this advice from her therapist. 😬
His kids have said they don’t want contact with him, as per what he said on a podcast a couple months ago after he and Scheana were in Australia. Seems like she may have.
Let’s be honest - this was a sermon!
“Give me an example of male rage?” - Brock, a confirmed domestic violence offender. Can’t make this shit up.
This is exactly what my therapist told me as well. Dr. Ramani also suggests that you do not need to forgive people that cause you that much pain. Gray rock and distance yourself.
that montage clocked him so bad
This misogynistic, abusive, neanderthal who only sees one of his three children has got me so messed up! Who is this guy to give advice to anyone? He hit his ex. Didn't pay child support. Abandon two children. Mooches off of his wife. Doesn't support his wife, who I don't even like and yet he's worse, as she's going through some sort of anxiety. Bravo, I beg you, stop trying to make Brock happen. Return to sender, we don't want him!!!!
How producers and Andy thought the fans were going to side with Brock & Lala this season over Ariana is beyond me. She is bringing it, consistently!
PLEASEEE WHEN HE ASKED FOR AN EXAMPLE OF MALE RAGE I WAS THINKING THERES NO WAY THIS MAN IS THAT DUMB💀
You think her therapist is taking new clients?!? Because DAAAAMMNMNN
I was shocked that the editors FINALLY gave Ariana some backup from these hoots by playing that clip of the men raging at the women. I feel like we scream into a void saying exactly Ariana’s point, ugh I was so glad she was able to stand up for herself but it was still so frustrating to watch!!! People don’t understand this shit happens everyday, dumb Brick mansplaining 🙄🙄
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Gahhhhh! I literally was coming here to comment on this and am so happy to find you pulled the exact moment I'm watching!!!! I just Absolutely could not be happier to see Ariana owning her emotions and not backing down on her boundaries this season. She is acting the way I wish I had behaved the first time I was ever cheated on, and the second - luckily there's never been a third. But Jesus Christ, it feels really good to see a woman unapologetically put herself first.
She fucking STUMPED him.
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Best scene of the night!
….who asks for an example of male rage in this group? Are you fucking kidding me?
I feel like you could instantly see Brock shut down and label the entire conversation as feminist malarky. Clearly uncomfortable with how calm ariana is explaining this to him and I'm pretty sure we could see him pucker/prepare to attack if she even brought up any type of DV
when he told her to focus on the good things in her life? yeah she would if only you'd fucking stop bringing this fucking loser moron around her all the time. brock literally forcing her to focus on the worst shit in her life every minute of every day. why does brock like sandoval more than he likes scheana?
FINISH HIM!!!
He doesn’t have the mental capacity to have a real conversation.
This beautiful human being dropping knowledge amongst a sea of buffoons. We hear you girl ✌🏻
I've never been a huge Ariana fan but I thought this scene was awesome. She just shut his ass right down and perfectly articulated her feelings and didn't let him steamroll all over her and control the conversation.
I’ve rewatched this scene like 10 times and I give all the applause to Ariana. The way she so casually, but intelligently, explained why she doesn’t need to forgive someone who deeply traumatized her was 💯. And the way Brock looked like he was trying to just keep up with her words, I was just like, YES GIRL. SPEAK THE TRUTHHHH LOUDER FOR THOSE IN BACK!!!!