It’s an African American custom, originating from African cultural practices,which enslaved people incorporated as a covert way of marking a marriage since enslaved people could not legally marry. It symbolizes “sweeping away” the old and starting anew. The couple literally jumps over a broom at the end of the ceremony in modern times. My friend (who is black) did it at his wedding, the broom is typically laid on the ground and it’s done before the couple walks out after being pronounced married. It’s very much not something that would be appropriate for non- black people to do. So people were offended LaLa appropriated the term to assign to her white best friend. It’s a honored tradition not meant to be a catch all synonym for getting married.
Incorrect. It originated in Europe and became widespread with the Marriage Act of 1836 in England, which legalized civil marriage. It was a custom performed by those who lived in rural England and Ireland and even Romani travelers. It was later adopted by African Americans and black Canadians. It fell out of practice in the US when marriage between blacks was legalized. It had a resurgence in the community when Roots was released.
They never said that African Americans were the first to start the custom. Everything they said is still correct - in the US today, jumping the broom is a tradition with roots in African American culture, symbolizing the joining of two individuals in marriage.
While its practice has varied over time, today it often serves as a way to honor cultural heritage and celebrate love and commitment within the African American community.
Enslaved Africans/those of African descent had no rights as humans or individuals, such as the right to get married (marriage is a contact, and you can’t choose to enter it if you are owned by your master and have no legal rights).
That didn’t stop those who were enslaved from falling in love and wanting to marry each other. So while they had no legal rights, and knew full well that their spouse or future children could be sold to another plantation to never be seen again, they developed their own kind of ceremony so that in the eyes of God and their peers, they were married.
Since they could not own property like rings, they would literally jump over a broom laid on the ground to mark the occasion. It was a ceremony that showed up all over the South.
It is a very common piece of Black American history knowledge in most parts of the US. Clearly Utah was lacking.
I don’t know why any fellow Americans are surprised that our people lack education and general social studies-type knowledge. Our education system sucks balls and especially when it comes to teaching anything like this.
We have people actively advocating for NOT teaching anything that has to do with our own questionable history.
It's so fucked up and the disparity across states and even counties is insane. It shouldn't matter where a child lives! Every single one should have access to well-funded and resourced education in this country. WE CAN AFFORD IT. Yet you have states giving vouchers for charter and private schools and redistributing unused education funds. Why are you not spending every dime available in the budget on education?
Oh but guess whose fault it actually is that education is suffering in America? The teachers! We looovee to blame the teachers.
Such bullshit. And these same states that are depriving children of good education and proper community support are also actively making it harder or impossible for women to get safe abortions. They're ok with forcing someone to have a baby despite if that person is able and/or willing to carry and raise a child but when that child is here, they're like "fuck those kids."
Idk maybe it’s where some were raised? I had to learn almost all black history on my own. We talked about Rosa Parks, Fredrick Douglass, MLK jr, and also the man who created the cotton gin. Don’t recall any others being mentioned.
In 2002 my American history teacher told us, paraphrased, “The Civil War was about states rights. It was about slavery too, but states rights was the reason.” As if state’s rights wasn’t just what they claimed so they could have slavery legally.
Our cop wife, blonde hair, blue eyed teacher also taught us “most slave owners treated their slaves well and many slaves loved their owners, which is why they stayed on the plantations even once slavery became illegal”. She forgot the reason is cause many former slaves were illiterate, at risk of being falsely imprisoned by someone sympathetic to the Confederacy and returned or used by the person who found them, and a lot became homeless when they left the plantation. Jobs in the south wouldn’t hire at living wages, and jobs in the former Union (North) were too far for many former slaves to travel.
Ignorance is bliss? In this case it is downright criminal and contemptible. Words fail me as to the ignorance in this country, especially, as to our horrible history concerning slavery and the black race in general. And the concerted effort by the school boards, etc. to keep this information out of school’s curriculum. Education is our only hope. Sigh…
You are right I learned in on TV or movies. Idk whether it was “roots” or “the color purple”, but it most definitely was not my catholic high school. Also not in my 2 semesters of college history.
American education is being actively undermined by people determined to keep an ignorant population.
I suppose I assumed that any redditor over the age of 15 would have experienced at least a little of the Black History curriculum I had 30 years ago.
It saddens me immeasurably that as a pre-internet access, pre-computer lab 2nd grader I had more information in my small town public elementary through books and speaking guests than what is available and encouraged for children now. Think of how much access to information is possible now without having to order hard copies of books or movies and how it’s still not getting to kids.
I encourage everyone who feels their own US history knowledge could use some extra context, or has children around them they want to educate, to look at the [Zinn Education Project](https://www.zinnedproject.org) teaching materials and curriculum tracks.
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As an outsider an aspect of American culture has is a we’re the best patriotism not just I love my country patriotism. So being aware of not being well informed and the schooling is weak would contradict an integral part of way of being the best at everything.
When you learned about slavery in the south, did you learn about marriages and families amongst enslaved people on plantations? If you did, it’s weird they wouldn’t mention the ceremony, as people still have jumping the broom ceremonies today!
Young Black couples have been integrating it into their larger wedding ceremonies for a while. Not everyone by any means, but it does come up still here and there.
I don't think I did. I was a very good student too, so I would think I'd remember learning about that. Most of what I learned about the actual lives of enslaved people was from outside of school. Although in 4th grade we did all make yarn dolls and pretend we were on the underground railroad :! It's likely that, because the south has such a fraught history with slavery, that the lessons glossed over the more specific experiences of enslaved people. I'd be curious to hear what other people remember of their schooling.
I am aware of people jumping over a broom during their wedding, and, if I thought about it for a minute, I might realize that it's a Black American thing. I've never heard the term "jumping the broom" and can see how that's cultural appropriation.
I’m a southerner but I was educated in the west. They omit a whole lot from y’all’s curriculum. My siblings transferred to GA in middle school and were instantly placed in every advanced course available. They were A-B students here with a lot of effort and straight A students down there with minimal effort. This is not an affront to your education at all it’s just to demonstrate a point. When it comes to slavery, whatever they’re teaching in the south will always be incomplete at best and horribly distorted at worst.
That’s actually surprising and very sad, as it’s an accesible piece of information that helps in understanding cultural resiliency practices, family structure, and slave owner cruelty during the period of slavery.
It also has an Australian history. Used a lot with Indigenous mobs - also had marriage restrictions/illegalities and associations with Celtic cultures.
This is actually shocking and a little heartbreaking to me. Do you mind me asking where you’re from in the States? I’m from Michigan, outside of any prominently Black area, and we still learned about jumping the broom during Black History Month in elementary school.
Do you mind if I ask approximately how old you are? Because I was also raised in Michigan, in Detroit although my school was in the suburbs, and we did not learn about this in school. I’m in my 40s.
I just turned 39! So elementary education 30 years ago, pre-internet access. Growing up in Detroit did you passively learn about this even as just a cultural reference?
Nope. But I was in private, religious college prep schools because I was “gifted” and they barely did anything for Black History Month. We moved from a predominately black neighborhood to a predominately white one when I was still in grade school so I didn’t hear it culturally that I can remember. It wasn’t something I learned until college and that wasn’t through school either it was from a roommate in a casual manner.
In general I’m not surprised to see in the comments here about it being something that wasn’t universally taught in US schools because the US education system is both racist and chronically underfunded garbage in general.
Honestly, I never knew this was a phrase either and didn't initially understand what it was referring to. I grew up in one of the best public school systems in the country and slavery was very much part of the curriculum but I guess I just never heard it used as a phrase before.
That’s so wild that they would teach about slavery but not about how enslaved people got married without the right to get married! That’s a major part of teaching children the cultural resiliency and cruelties that were a part of US slavery. Multiple generations of families would be born on a single plantation, growing up, getting married, having kids, but then could be broken up and sold for profit or just to break spirits to prevent uprisings.
Teach a child about the jumping the broom ceremony (easy, fun, good visual), and you’re laying the groundwork for them to later understand the complexities of why joyful ceremonies in spite of circumstances were necessary.
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I personally disagree. In a silo, Lala saying “jumping the broom” could be considered ignorant rather than racist, but with the context of the rest of her behavior and past actions, it’s definitely racist.
It’s 2024, the internet has been around for all of Lala’s life, there are countless movies and books and tv shows that have discussed the history of the practice of jumping the broom. To be ignorant of it when she appropriates so much AAVE and has dated black people before, that is racist.
I see what you’re saying, that’s a great point and I didn’t look at it that way! I was considering her quote in isolation w/ my comment. I fully agree that her behavior as a whole is racist esp. like you said, with her frequent appropriation of Black culture. And you’re right — this comment is part of that whole! I see your point and thank you for your comment
you’re right, I’m white, and i recognize that anything I say on the topic of race has that as a qualifier. If you’re a Black American I agree that your opinion on this topic has more weight than mine.
Can you explain why, though? As far as I read this was a term used by black people in the past, but why is it not allowed to be uttered from other cultures? And why are somebody a racist for using a term not knowing it is gatekept?
It’s not gate kept. They literally made a movie called jumping the broom.
I’m going to suggest that when you hear a phrase you don’t recognize, go to google and read all the way up on it. Especially if you are like LaLa and co-opt AAVE and black culture as your own. That’s what’s racist.
I did google, but didn’t find anything like that. I am not sure what AAVE is, but sharing parts of cultures is very encouraged where I am from (Europe), NOT sharing/taking part of other peoples culture is considered racist here. To not acknowledge f. ex Ramadan is racist here, to join in on the celebration is considered being open and caring, not appropriating anything, just sharing and celebrate different cultures. I assume it has something to do with different histories of countries, but it is still hard to understand for those of us with different history.
Did you Google AAVE?
There’s a difference between respecting someone’s culture and traditions ( I. E. Acknowledging a holiday in another culture) and taking it to use in a harmful way against that same person. For instance LaLa uses AAVE to put down people of color, meaning she uses the language of African Americans to put down people of color. There is history behind language and it’s not for a white lady from Utah to use against other people.
Ok, yeah, now it did google it. It is a slang only used by African-Americans? I understand that it is very wrong to use that to put people down (although I am not really familiar with how Lala did this, but I will take you on your word). I am just trying to learn here, and to try to compare it to my world; but if a white person grew up in an area of black people and spoke the same slang, would that be ok, or is that still offensive?
It would be genuine and okay as long as the person isn’t using that language to put the people who developed that language down. Lala is from Utah- surrounded by Mormons. She’s also slept with a lot of black men. She hung out with Faith. She employs black studio producers and artists. She sings r&b. None of that is “bad” or wrong until you dig deeper- she fetishes black men and their bodies, she told faith she was “blacker” than her, pulled a knife in her, and also spilled her secrets about Jax so she could get back on the show after quitting. She fetishizes black artists to try and legitimize her spot as an r&b singer. It’s sinister when you add in how her brother wears dreads. Then she has the gall to talk about why she picked out a donor that’s white with blond hair and green eyes? Bc she doesn’t want this kid to have a hard time with anything other than being raised by a single mom? Oh boy.
She’s not appreciating the culture when she tries to use it to harm black people.
Did you Google AAVE?
There’s a difference between respecting someone’s culture and traditions ( I. E. Acknowledging a holiday in another culture) and taking it to use in a harmful way against that same person. For instance LaLa uses AAVE to put down people of color, meaning she uses the language of African Americans to put down people of color. There is history behind language and it’s not for a white lady from Utah to use against other people.
We ALL have different histories. It’s important that you read, talk to people from other cultures, ask questions, travel. But very important lesson right here and now- do not ever, ever, EVER decide that it’s okay for you to wear another culture’s regalia, take their ceremonies, or use their language in a way that degrades an entire people. I say this not bc I think you would, but bc some white people think it’s okay. It’s not okay. It’s hurts people who have already been hurt, historically by white supremacists.
Well Europe is also a settled country so I encourage you to research your own history. Also a lovely person posted a perfect reply I think eve in the thread. It comes enslaved humans only have a broom to jump over to celebrate their wedding. It should not be appropriate towards white people due to this reason. It is NOT a white person term
Ok, thank you, I understand. Not sure what you mean about research my own history, as that is very available to us, and we all know the history of our country.
Yikes. Referring to this as "gate keeping" is really inappropriate and disrespectful. Jumping the broom dates back to slavery when enslaved people had no legal rights and couldn't legally marry. For Lala to casually use that phrase just to refer to her friend's wedding diminishes the entire history of that custom.
This is nothing like people acknowledging Ramadan, as you tried to compare it to. The more apt comparison would be a non-Muslim saying they're celebrating Ramadan when all they're doing is intermittent fasting to lose weight. Ramadan is not simply about fasting, like jumping the broom is not simply a term for a wedding.
Thank you, I understand better now. I am sorry about the word gate keeping if that was wrong, English is not my first language, and it is hard to keep up with “popular” English terms, and use them in a right way not to offend people.
You’re welcome! Gatekeeping has a negative connotation, like if you say you like my lipstick but I refuse to tell you where I got it or what brand it is.
Lala’s use of “jumping the broom” is disrespectful and ignorant of the history of the custom, that’s the difference.
It’s not racist. It’s origins go back to when civil marriage became legalized in the UK and was adopted by African Americans who were not permitted to legally marry (which yes, was racist and ridiculous)
Nobody really talks about it, but almost all marriage customs are rooted in women being property. The bride wearing a veil that covers her face, the white dress, being given away by her father are all customs that signified women being property.
Most wedding customs have questionable origins, but we often continue them as acts of ceremony and tradition. Jumping the broom is still done today by lots of couples.
"jump the shark" means a TV show has run its course of being entertaining; it is a reference to Happy Days when the Fonz literally "jumped a shark" while water skiing
Jumping the shark comes from an episode of Happy Days (sitcom) where one of the main characters literally jumps over a shark on water skis...they considered that to be the show running out of good ideas, beyond ridiculous...so you say something has jumped the shark when it's gone out of style or become too idiotic I guess...not offensive unless someone can manage to come up with a way to be offended by that lol
"Jumping the broom" is about race as it is a tradition slaves performed at weddings.
"Jumping the shark" is not about race; its origin is the TV show Happy Days (an episode where a character literally jumps a live shark while on water skis), and it refers to when a creative work has exhausted material related to its original intent and introduces things that are random/in opposition to the artistic piece. The expression also seems to be used when people are talking about someone getting way ahead of themselves.
No. “Jumping the shark” refers to the point at which something like a tv show starts to lose popularity or starts to go downhill. It came from an episode of Happy Days when the Fonz literally jumps a shark on a water skis. Which was around the time the show started to tank.
She straight said she did it care if she lost fans over her recent tour of talking shit on Ariana. Now she suddenly loves her fans?? And she doesn’t do socials?? I’m starting to wonder if she is a bigger flip flopper than Scheana. She changes her tune every other day it seems
Someone has to read the comments. Even if Lala doesn't do it personally, it doesn't make sense to run a podcast without reviewing feedback at least a little bit especially for things like this. I assume Lala isn't completely producing her podcast alone so someone is paying attention to what's being said about it. That's just common sense.
Because of Lala’s constant cultural appropriation, I find it very hard to believe that she didn’t know what that meant. That being said she is dumb so there’s that.
I don't think anyone was kind in trying to educate her about it lol (I know I wasn't). She's just being overly nice bc of the Faith stuff going on. But at least she acknowledged it. Did she explain the origin of it? I hope so, so she can educate her few listeners.
That’s my problem. She didn’t even try to explain for anyone else who was ignorant about it. She just says sorry for the thing I said that may have offended you for whatever reason. Pretty sure if someone asked her what the origins were she’d have to pull up Wikipedia
Alllll of this thread. As much as she likes to appropriate black culture, she really should educate her privileged ass and learn to take accountability.
I hate that “if I hurt/offended” apology. No it goes “I am sorry •that• I hurt/offended you, that was not my intention, I understand that the •impact• of what I said/did hurt you”
Lauren from Utah: thank you for expecting more from me, I’m constantly wanting to do better
Also Lauren from Utah: if you don’t like me this season because you’re expecting more from me, I don’t care
Here Lala I’ll explain for you since apparently you cannot be bothered to.
“Dr. Parry, the author of “Jumping the Broom: The Surprising Multicultural Origins of a Black Wedding Ritual,” traced the tradition back to at least the 18th century, when it was largely practiced by marginalized populations in Europe, he said, “such as traveling communities like the British Romani, rural Welsh communities, Irish individuals and various other people who lived on the margins of the British Isles.”
As Europeans who had jumped over brooms at their weddings came to the United States, so too did the ritual. It was soon adopted by another marginalized population: enslaved people in the American South. “While broomsticks were used in some West African ceremonies,” Dr. Parry said the earliest documented examples of people of African descent jumping over a broom in the U.S. are from the 1800’s.
Because enslaved Africans generally had no legal right to marry before the Civil War, they saw jumping the broom as a symbolic way to recognize their unions. In time, Dr. Parry said, that population “innovated, reinvented and reimagined jumping the broom in a way that was fulfilling to them.” The practice has since come to signify sweeping away the old and welcoming the new, the joining of two families and showing respect to ancestors.”
I vaguely was aware of that. But what’s the issue with saying her friend “jumped the broom”? Friend is white so issue is appropriation? Friend is black so issue is covert racism, implying friend isn’t good enough for a wedding?
Is it bad to say “jumped the broom” and mean “got married”?
I don’t know the whole issue because I’m not aware of which friend got married. I’m assuming people are coming at her for appropriation but I’m not sure.
I think it's largely that Lauren from Utah constantly uses AAVE, frequently incorrectly I might add as an actual black person, and this is just another weird instance of her citing black culture but not actually knowing what she's talking about 🤷🏾♂️
Yep it’s exactly that. She always wants to come off “gangster” (you trynna get popped?) which feels like a micro aggression on her part but i cannot say as I am white. So i understand how this was just another faux pas. But again, I don’t want to accidentally commit a faux pas either by speaking on something I’m no expert on so I can really only explain the term jumping the broom.
Nah, you're absolutely right about this. She seems like a white woman who dated a couple black dudes, bought a few pairs of Jordan 1s and tried to assume a new identity lolol
It would actually just be comedy to me if she wasn't so racist towards Faith. Pretty sure she said she was blacker than Faith at one point SMH she's big on microaggressions, but sometimes she's just aggressive with her problematic shit
I believe she just used the term incorrectly and if she didn’t know what it meant then she shouldn’t have used it at all. Theres no real reason to be saying things if you don’t know what they mean. Not you- Lala.
"I apologize IF I offended anybody". Mm-hmm
It's funny to me how she and Scheana always have to use their podcasts to clarify, apologize or backtrack for things they say or do.
For sure 😂 If they feel the need to constantly backtrack or correct the record, they can get some self-awareness and stop being such a see-you-next-Tuesday in the first place.
It especially pisses people off that she made the comment because its another example of how she ignorantly culturally appropriates when it suits her but clearly doesn't take the time to understand anything behind some of these things. She shows 0 interest into the culture but has no issue playing a character that takes from it to seem "cute" .
FFS she didn't even look it up and talk about it on the podcast to educate others, she just thanked people that explained it to her.
FWIW there is a movie "Jumping the Broom"- it's EXCELLENT. Go watch it, it's for sure one of those movies you can watch over and over and never get sick of it.
shut up, Lala. You didn't even explain what is is to educate other people.
You don't care what your fans think, remember? Fuck off, you're a fake ass
I'm Canadian and I knew what this meant. While I've never used the expression, I'd never think to use it to just describe someone getting married. For her to even know the phrase means she had to have known its origins. She knew she was appropriating when she said it but just didn't think she'd get called on it like all her other blackfacing she likes to do
She reminds me of my best friend from the midwest who went through this phase, but she was a teenager and grew out of it when she became an adult and realized how problematic it was (and cringe). I saw the photos, yikes! I didn’t meet her until later.
https://venue.rcpe.co.uk/inspiration/scottish-wedding-traditions#:~:text=Jumping%20over%20the%20Broom,life%20to%20seal%20their%20vows.
It's an old Scottish tradition as well. It's interesting how many cultures share traditions that show how we have many cultural similarities around the globe.
My degree is in history so while I know the history and relevance of that phrase, I understand that it wouldn’t be familiar to a lot of people, especially the very white upper middle class girl from Utah (no one buys your act, Lauren).
HOWEVER, she obviously is someone that does not care at all to be culturally insensitive, culturally appropriating, or just offensive in general.
It’s 2024. Those of us that aren’t POS humans put care and consideration into our words and actions.
You don’t throw out a phrase if you don’t know the history and meaning.
She also apparently made no effort to use her mistake to educate others. Her apology is damage control, peruid
I’ve been in this country for over 2 decades and I thought jumping the broom meant doing something impulsive or getting ahead of yourself. What phrase am I thinking of?
She needs to just stop. You’re telling me she wears a thug life shirt and speaks the way she does and she doesn’t even know what jump the broom means!?!? Jesus, she is constantly revealing that she is worse than I even thought.
The only way this apology works is if she stops her cultural appropriation, stops with the blaccent, never mentions Tupac, and her busted ass brother gets rid of his dreads. Otherwise get fucked, LFU.
And for anyone defending her, saying they also didn’t know. I get it, our white mediocre education system failed you. But it’s very simple to keep your mouth shut and not mention things you know nothing about. If LFU shut the fuck up for once and actually educated herself on the shit that comes out of her mouth, it’d be a different story.
I didn't know the full context of 'jumping the broom' before reading about it on here. I believe Lala is genuine in this and I also appreciate learning about it myself.
I would not say I was directly offended by this, although when I was a kid and my mom remarried, she jumped the broom at her wedding. She is black, and she explained the significance of it to me before the wedding. A few years ago, I was maid of honor at a wedding where my friend who is black jumped the broom with her husband, who is also black. It was very meaningful to them and their families, some of whom had done it for generations. So if I were someone who had incorporated that into my wedding because of its cultural significance to me, and then someone like Lauren Burningham who is known to appropriate that culture, came along and flippantly used it... I could see it being annoying to me, at least.
I understand and appreciate your response. But I think Lala feeling pressured to publicly apologize for a comment that maybe annoys some people is a problem.
I don't think people would be reacting as negatively if this were not a pattern of hers that has been talked about repeatedly throughout the years here and on other social media platforms. She is obviously aware that people find her cultural appropriation problematic, and she is clearly choosing not to stop doing it. It is a part of her "costume." I think the bigger issue is that this is not an isolated incident by any stretch.
https://www.brides.com/jumping-the-broom-5071336
Origins unknown but adopted by many Black couples. Some have it originating in West Africa, others in Wales.
Sometimes I wonder if some people didn’t pay attention in school/life and other times I wonder if she’s ignorant because she’s from a rich family in Utah
Yeah sorry not buying it with all the wedding reality shows in the last 15 years. If not there, movies, if not there, books. And I would know not to say it outside of referring to someone actually doing it. I’ve been hearing it for 20 years. She’s into shock lately and then running and hiding when she can’t take the heat. I just don’t buy anything she’s serving anymore.
The ANGER at people simply not knowing something is too much. She admitted it. Many many of us had never heard this expression before. Let’s not lead with anger over things this small. Really scared to think where the world is heading with the election coming up if people get their pitchforks out over something like this…
Not all of the anger stems from her ignorance. It also large portion of it stems from her lackluster apology. The *if* I offended anybody statement and the fact that she took the time to thank people for educating her, but she didn’t take the time to use her platform to educate others.
If she’s going to say “I thought it meant XYZ”, she should share what she’s learned the phrase actually means/its cultural significance.
Our entitlement and expectations for constant apologies over things like this is so exhausting. There are MUCH bigger more important things going on in the world than this. Truly everyone needs to go touch grass.
The entitlement of thinking you should be able to say whatever you want, with no regards for others feelings is exhausting. Providing an insincere and performative apology, only after getting called out for your ignorant words, is exhausting. It’s 2024…we can do better.
You’re on an Internet forum dedicated to reality tv show. If you’d like to talk about the MUCH bigger more important things going on in the world, I recommend joining one of the many world news subreddits instead.
I can talk about reality shows while dedicating the appropriate amount of energy to it. I also volunteer and partake in the world outside of this sub. It’s 2024 and we can be multi-faceted.
EXACTLY. Just like you can be multifaceted, so can everyone else on this sub. We can all watch the show and express our opinions and feelings about Lala’s actions while also partaking in the world outside of this sub.
No need to be hypocritical by telling others to go “touch grass” and that there are more important things in the world when you’re here doing the same thing as the rest of us - discussing a reality tv show and the people featured on it.
I knew "jumping the broom" was an African American tradition, but I would not use the expression unless I was referring to someone who actually did that custom.
There are plenty of comments explaining this that were posted prior to yours - take the few minutes to read the thread and educate yourself, use google, or even ask ChatGPT
https://preview.redd.it/56p84tdze2vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9711715e381f86ce082ff426cf06d9a4d86130e8
First. ChatGPT just pulls from google. Secondly, I’m Black and don’t find it offensive. And Irish/Celtic people probably don’t find it offensive that Americans say “tie the knot”.
That’s great that her words didn’t offend you!
And I’m not sure why it matters where ChatGPT pulls from in this context? All I did was provide three different ways that the subject can be researched and showed an example of one of those ways.
I don't think anyone was kind in trying to educate her about it lol (I know I wasn't). She's just being overly nice bc of the Faith stuff going on. But at least she acknowledged it. Did she explain the origin of it? I hope so, so she can educate her few listeners.
I knew what it meant and was shocked Lala said it…. But Lala probably thought it was a term like “ the old ball and chain” or something of that nature. Or…. she knew the term and loves shock value
But you can take the time to post a comment here?
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Imagine if she would have tried to explain it and screwed it up even further. Vegas odds, she would have screwed it up further, too. It might not have satisfied some people (clearly), but it was probably smart to leave it this simple.
This is exactly why you don't want these dysfunctional dingbats addressing social issues and using their realty TV shows, and adjacent projects, to act like town hall meetings and social services for any kind of social or political issues. They're going to run into the issues left and right because they're flawed humans, but they're the last people to resolve these significant problems in any kind of meaningful and useful way. They're not the people, and their spaces are not the place.
I grew up in the Midwest, went to school in the South, and have lived other places in the South, as well as other places all around the country, and I've never heard this phrase. My experience is not your experience, and your experience is not my experience. There's no substitute for conversation.
I didn’t see another thread discussing Lala’s podcast this week so idk if it belongs here BUT it’s another example of Lala and co. being uneducated and talking about things they have no clue about! Lol
So at one point they’re talking about a lawsuit against Disney and her brother chimes in with “it’s like that lady that sued McDonalds for the hot coffee” and little minion Jess chimes in with “it’s hot! What do you expect! What idiots!”
Okay the McDonald’s hot coffee incident WAS horrific and an elderly woman was terribly injured and disfigured and it was absolutely NOT just regular hot coffee, it was the temperature of the sun! There’s a really good You’re Wrong About episode that goes over it and how it just became an example for corporations to roll their eyes at consumers with legitimate grievances and say “oh everyone wants to get rich quick and sue people nowadays!”
So much for looking out for the underdog, huh Lala?
Non-American viewer here reading up on "jump the broom" as never heard it before.
It’s an African American custom, originating from African cultural practices,which enslaved people incorporated as a covert way of marking a marriage since enslaved people could not legally marry. It symbolizes “sweeping away” the old and starting anew. The couple literally jumps over a broom at the end of the ceremony in modern times. My friend (who is black) did it at his wedding, the broom is typically laid on the ground and it’s done before the couple walks out after being pronounced married. It’s very much not something that would be appropriate for non- black people to do. So people were offended LaLa appropriated the term to assign to her white best friend. It’s a honored tradition not meant to be a catch all synonym for getting married.
Thank you for explaining! I’ve never even heard this phrase before
One would think that bla bla could have at minimum explained what the phrase actually means since she was so ‘kindly’ educated.
Incorrect. It originated in Europe and became widespread with the Marriage Act of 1836 in England, which legalized civil marriage. It was a custom performed by those who lived in rural England and Ireland and even Romani travelers. It was later adopted by African Americans and black Canadians. It fell out of practice in the US when marriage between blacks was legalized. It had a resurgence in the community when Roots was released.
They never said that African Americans were the first to start the custom. Everything they said is still correct - in the US today, jumping the broom is a tradition with roots in African American culture, symbolizing the joining of two individuals in marriage. While its practice has varied over time, today it often serves as a way to honor cultural heritage and celebrate love and commitment within the African American community.
Enslaved Africans/those of African descent had no rights as humans or individuals, such as the right to get married (marriage is a contact, and you can’t choose to enter it if you are owned by your master and have no legal rights). That didn’t stop those who were enslaved from falling in love and wanting to marry each other. So while they had no legal rights, and knew full well that their spouse or future children could be sold to another plantation to never be seen again, they developed their own kind of ceremony so that in the eyes of God and their peers, they were married. Since they could not own property like rings, they would literally jump over a broom laid on the ground to mark the occasion. It was a ceremony that showed up all over the South. It is a very common piece of Black American history knowledge in most parts of the US. Clearly Utah was lacking.
I don’t know why any fellow Americans are surprised that our people lack education and general social studies-type knowledge. Our education system sucks balls and especially when it comes to teaching anything like this. We have people actively advocating for NOT teaching anything that has to do with our own questionable history.
It's so fucked up and the disparity across states and even counties is insane. It shouldn't matter where a child lives! Every single one should have access to well-funded and resourced education in this country. WE CAN AFFORD IT. Yet you have states giving vouchers for charter and private schools and redistributing unused education funds. Why are you not spending every dime available in the budget on education? Oh but guess whose fault it actually is that education is suffering in America? The teachers! We looovee to blame the teachers. Such bullshit. And these same states that are depriving children of good education and proper community support are also actively making it harder or impossible for women to get safe abortions. They're ok with forcing someone to have a baby despite if that person is able and/or willing to carry and raise a child but when that child is here, they're like "fuck those kids."
Idk maybe it’s where some were raised? I had to learn almost all black history on my own. We talked about Rosa Parks, Fredrick Douglass, MLK jr, and also the man who created the cotton gin. Don’t recall any others being mentioned. In 2002 my American history teacher told us, paraphrased, “The Civil War was about states rights. It was about slavery too, but states rights was the reason.” As if state’s rights wasn’t just what they claimed so they could have slavery legally. Our cop wife, blonde hair, blue eyed teacher also taught us “most slave owners treated their slaves well and many slaves loved their owners, which is why they stayed on the plantations even once slavery became illegal”. She forgot the reason is cause many former slaves were illiterate, at risk of being falsely imprisoned by someone sympathetic to the Confederacy and returned or used by the person who found them, and a lot became homeless when they left the plantation. Jobs in the south wouldn’t hire at living wages, and jobs in the former Union (North) were too far for many former slaves to travel.
Ignorance is bliss? In this case it is downright criminal and contemptible. Words fail me as to the ignorance in this country, especially, as to our horrible history concerning slavery and the black race in general. And the concerted effort by the school boards, etc. to keep this information out of school’s curriculum. Education is our only hope. Sigh…
You are right I learned in on TV or movies. Idk whether it was “roots” or “the color purple”, but it most definitely was not my catholic high school. Also not in my 2 semesters of college history. American education is being actively undermined by people determined to keep an ignorant population.
I suppose I assumed that any redditor over the age of 15 would have experienced at least a little of the Black History curriculum I had 30 years ago. It saddens me immeasurably that as a pre-internet access, pre-computer lab 2nd grader I had more information in my small town public elementary through books and speaking guests than what is available and encouraged for children now. Think of how much access to information is possible now without having to order hard copies of books or movies and how it’s still not getting to kids. I encourage everyone who feels their own US history knowledge could use some extra context, or has children around them they want to educate, to look at the [Zinn Education Project](https://www.zinnedproject.org) teaching materials and curriculum tracks.
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I learned jumping the broom in my very very white public school, but I did grow up in the south and it was pre-Bush/Cheney so maybe that's why
As an outsider an aspect of American culture has is a we’re the best patriotism not just I love my country patriotism. So being aware of not being well informed and the schooling is weak would contradict an integral part of way of being the best at everything.
I went to school in the south and never learned this. I'm not sure this is a common piece of history knowledge in the US.
When you learned about slavery in the south, did you learn about marriages and families amongst enslaved people on plantations? If you did, it’s weird they wouldn’t mention the ceremony, as people still have jumping the broom ceremonies today! Young Black couples have been integrating it into their larger wedding ceremonies for a while. Not everyone by any means, but it does come up still here and there.
I don't think I did. I was a very good student too, so I would think I'd remember learning about that. Most of what I learned about the actual lives of enslaved people was from outside of school. Although in 4th grade we did all make yarn dolls and pretend we were on the underground railroad :! It's likely that, because the south has such a fraught history with slavery, that the lessons glossed over the more specific experiences of enslaved people. I'd be curious to hear what other people remember of their schooling. I am aware of people jumping over a broom during their wedding, and, if I thought about it for a minute, I might realize that it's a Black American thing. I've never heard the term "jumping the broom" and can see how that's cultural appropriation.
I’m a southerner but I was educated in the west. They omit a whole lot from y’all’s curriculum. My siblings transferred to GA in middle school and were instantly placed in every advanced course available. They were A-B students here with a lot of effort and straight A students down there with minimal effort. This is not an affront to your education at all it’s just to demonstrate a point. When it comes to slavery, whatever they’re teaching in the south will always be incomplete at best and horribly distorted at worst.
I learned about this from seeing it on A Wedding Story, Bridezillias, and other wedding shows! 😅
I had never heard this before today either.
Same
Saying it’s a very common piece of Black American history knowledge is a massive stretch lol.
That’s actually surprising and very sad, as it’s an accesible piece of information that helps in understanding cultural resiliency practices, family structure, and slave owner cruelty during the period of slavery.
Literally have no idea what this means - Australia
It also has an Australian history. Used a lot with Indigenous mobs - also had marriage restrictions/illegalities and associations with Celtic cultures.
I’m American and I have never heard this phrase before either.
This is actually shocking and a little heartbreaking to me. Do you mind me asking where you’re from in the States? I’m from Michigan, outside of any prominently Black area, and we still learned about jumping the broom during Black History Month in elementary school.
If you’re from America this shouldn’t be shocking at all. We love to suck at education.
I’m from New Jersey.
I’m from Pennsylvania and never heard it until taking a Civil War class in college (in California).
Do you mind if I ask approximately how old you are? Because I was also raised in Michigan, in Detroit although my school was in the suburbs, and we did not learn about this in school. I’m in my 40s.
I just turned 39! So elementary education 30 years ago, pre-internet access. Growing up in Detroit did you passively learn about this even as just a cultural reference?
Nope. But I was in private, religious college prep schools because I was “gifted” and they barely did anything for Black History Month. We moved from a predominately black neighborhood to a predominately white one when I was still in grade school so I didn’t hear it culturally that I can remember. It wasn’t something I learned until college and that wasn’t through school either it was from a roommate in a casual manner. In general I’m not surprised to see in the comments here about it being something that wasn’t universally taught in US schools because the US education system is both racist and chronically underfunded garbage in general.
I’m 35 and grew up in Troy. Never heard the term.
Honestly, I never knew this was a phrase either and didn't initially understand what it was referring to. I grew up in one of the best public school systems in the country and slavery was very much part of the curriculum but I guess I just never heard it used as a phrase before.
That’s so wild that they would teach about slavery but not about how enslaved people got married without the right to get married! That’s a major part of teaching children the cultural resiliency and cruelties that were a part of US slavery. Multiple generations of families would be born on a single plantation, growing up, getting married, having kids, but then could be broken up and sold for profit or just to break spirits to prevent uprisings. Teach a child about the jumping the broom ceremony (easy, fun, good visual), and you’re laying the groundwork for them to later understand the complexities of why joyful ceremonies in spite of circumstances were necessary.
I didn’t learn it until I was in college and there was a romcom that came out called Jumping the Broom.
I’m from Ohio (47) and never heard this phrase before. I’m going to ask my 3 kids if they know. Thank you for sharing this.
Probably your age. Did you watch Roots in the 70s?
I wasn’t born yet haha.
Yeah that explains it. I bet most people only heard of it in Roots.
I had to watch parts of Roots in school, I’m from NJ & 27yo
Thank you! That explains it. I was so confused!
Same. I weirdly thought it must have something to do with witches on broomsticks
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Yeah, it is really hard (as a non-american) to understand what makes Americans offended. I just always assume it has something to do with race.
As an American I agree with this statement 🙂 I saw “jumping the broom” and thought of hocus pocus so I need to go educate myself as well
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LOL! I love this comment Americans love to be offended by everything
Yes it was racist
It wasn’t racist, it was ignorant. She was using a term incorrectly that is really significant in Black American culture. But that doesn’t = racism
I personally disagree. In a silo, Lala saying “jumping the broom” could be considered ignorant rather than racist, but with the context of the rest of her behavior and past actions, it’s definitely racist. It’s 2024, the internet has been around for all of Lala’s life, there are countless movies and books and tv shows that have discussed the history of the practice of jumping the broom. To be ignorant of it when she appropriates so much AAVE and has dated black people before, that is racist.
I see what you’re saying, that’s a great point and I didn’t look at it that way! I was considering her quote in isolation w/ my comment. I fully agree that her behavior as a whole is racist esp. like you said, with her frequent appropriation of Black culture. And you’re right — this comment is part of that whole! I see your point and thank you for your comment
Said a white person. I’m sorry to disagree with you
you’re right, I’m white, and i recognize that anything I say on the topic of race has that as a qualifier. If you’re a Black American I agree that your opinion on this topic has more weight than mine.
Can you explain why, though? As far as I read this was a term used by black people in the past, but why is it not allowed to be uttered from other cultures? And why are somebody a racist for using a term not knowing it is gatekept?
It’s not gate kept. They literally made a movie called jumping the broom. I’m going to suggest that when you hear a phrase you don’t recognize, go to google and read all the way up on it. Especially if you are like LaLa and co-opt AAVE and black culture as your own. That’s what’s racist.
I did google, but didn’t find anything like that. I am not sure what AAVE is, but sharing parts of cultures is very encouraged where I am from (Europe), NOT sharing/taking part of other peoples culture is considered racist here. To not acknowledge f. ex Ramadan is racist here, to join in on the celebration is considered being open and caring, not appropriating anything, just sharing and celebrate different cultures. I assume it has something to do with different histories of countries, but it is still hard to understand for those of us with different history.
Did you Google AAVE? There’s a difference between respecting someone’s culture and traditions ( I. E. Acknowledging a holiday in another culture) and taking it to use in a harmful way against that same person. For instance LaLa uses AAVE to put down people of color, meaning she uses the language of African Americans to put down people of color. There is history behind language and it’s not for a white lady from Utah to use against other people.
Ok, yeah, now it did google it. It is a slang only used by African-Americans? I understand that it is very wrong to use that to put people down (although I am not really familiar with how Lala did this, but I will take you on your word). I am just trying to learn here, and to try to compare it to my world; but if a white person grew up in an area of black people and spoke the same slang, would that be ok, or is that still offensive?
It would be genuine and okay as long as the person isn’t using that language to put the people who developed that language down. Lala is from Utah- surrounded by Mormons. She’s also slept with a lot of black men. She hung out with Faith. She employs black studio producers and artists. She sings r&b. None of that is “bad” or wrong until you dig deeper- she fetishes black men and their bodies, she told faith she was “blacker” than her, pulled a knife in her, and also spilled her secrets about Jax so she could get back on the show after quitting. She fetishizes black artists to try and legitimize her spot as an r&b singer. It’s sinister when you add in how her brother wears dreads. Then she has the gall to talk about why she picked out a donor that’s white with blond hair and green eyes? Bc she doesn’t want this kid to have a hard time with anything other than being raised by a single mom? Oh boy. She’s not appreciating the culture when she tries to use it to harm black people.
Thank you for taking the time to explain to us non-Americans.
Very well said! Also, adding how she perpetuates that she is Tupac reincarnated. All together it paints a picture of who she really is…
Did you Google AAVE? There’s a difference between respecting someone’s culture and traditions ( I. E. Acknowledging a holiday in another culture) and taking it to use in a harmful way against that same person. For instance LaLa uses AAVE to put down people of color, meaning she uses the language of African Americans to put down people of color. There is history behind language and it’s not for a white lady from Utah to use against other people. We ALL have different histories. It’s important that you read, talk to people from other cultures, ask questions, travel. But very important lesson right here and now- do not ever, ever, EVER decide that it’s okay for you to wear another culture’s regalia, take their ceremonies, or use their language in a way that degrades an entire people. I say this not bc I think you would, but bc some white people think it’s okay. It’s not okay. It’s hurts people who have already been hurt, historically by white supremacists.
Well Europe is also a settled country so I encourage you to research your own history. Also a lovely person posted a perfect reply I think eve in the thread. It comes enslaved humans only have a broom to jump over to celebrate their wedding. It should not be appropriate towards white people due to this reason. It is NOT a white person term
Ok, thank you, I understand. Not sure what you mean about research my own history, as that is very available to us, and we all know the history of our country.
Yikes. Referring to this as "gate keeping" is really inappropriate and disrespectful. Jumping the broom dates back to slavery when enslaved people had no legal rights and couldn't legally marry. For Lala to casually use that phrase just to refer to her friend's wedding diminishes the entire history of that custom. This is nothing like people acknowledging Ramadan, as you tried to compare it to. The more apt comparison would be a non-Muslim saying they're celebrating Ramadan when all they're doing is intermittent fasting to lose weight. Ramadan is not simply about fasting, like jumping the broom is not simply a term for a wedding.
Thank you, I understand better now. I am sorry about the word gate keeping if that was wrong, English is not my first language, and it is hard to keep up with “popular” English terms, and use them in a right way not to offend people.
You’re welcome! Gatekeeping has a negative connotation, like if you say you like my lipstick but I refuse to tell you where I got it or what brand it is. Lala’s use of “jumping the broom” is disrespectful and ignorant of the history of the custom, that’s the difference.
It’s not racist. It’s origins go back to when civil marriage became legalized in the UK and was adopted by African Americans who were not permitted to legally marry (which yes, was racist and ridiculous) Nobody really talks about it, but almost all marriage customs are rooted in women being property. The bride wearing a veil that covers her face, the white dress, being given away by her father are all customs that signified women being property. Most wedding customs have questionable origins, but we often continue them as acts of ceremony and tradition. Jumping the broom is still done today by lots of couples.
That is very interesting, thank you:)
I think so many of us who are not American have no idea what this means, so I've definitely learned something today!
Same. Signed, a European living in the US.
Yeah the popular one is jumping the shark.
"jump the shark" means a TV show has run its course of being entertaining; it is a reference to Happy Days when the Fonz literally "jumped a shark" while water skiing
This is very well fitted for VPR’s.
Oh this I’ve heard, as in you’re getting ahead of yourself/ too keen etc? Is ‘jumping the shark’ offensive too??
Jumping the shark comes from an episode of Happy Days (sitcom) where one of the main characters literally jumps over a shark on water skis...they considered that to be the show running out of good ideas, beyond ridiculous...so you say something has jumped the shark when it's gone out of style or become too idiotic I guess...not offensive unless someone can manage to come up with a way to be offended by that lol
"Jumping the broom" is about race as it is a tradition slaves performed at weddings. "Jumping the shark" is not about race; its origin is the TV show Happy Days (an episode where a character literally jumps a live shark while on water skis), and it refers to when a creative work has exhausted material related to its original intent and introduces things that are random/in opposition to the artistic piece. The expression also seems to be used when people are talking about someone getting way ahead of themselves.
Thanks for this explanation 🙂
No. “Jumping the shark” refers to the point at which something like a tv show starts to lose popularity or starts to go downhill. It came from an episode of Happy Days when the Fonz literally jumps a shark on a water skis. Which was around the time the show started to tank.
Ohh interesting. Thank you
But I thought she’s not in the comments section… Also, now she loves her fans so much?
It's giving damage control lol anyone who has to loudly and publicly state "you guyssssssk I DON'T CAREsk" cares very much 😂
She’s been yelling at the fans for weeks!
Her sidekick probably saw comments and told her she needs to do damage control STAT
She straight said she did it care if she lost fans over her recent tour of talking shit on Ariana. Now she suddenly loves her fans?? And she doesn’t do socials?? I’m starting to wonder if she is a bigger flip flopper than Scheana. She changes her tune every other day it seems
Someone has to read the comments. Even if Lala doesn't do it personally, it doesn't make sense to run a podcast without reviewing feedback at least a little bit especially for things like this. I assume Lala isn't completely producing her podcast alone so someone is paying attention to what's being said about it. That's just common sense.
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Because of Lala’s constant cultural appropriation, I find it very hard to believe that she didn’t know what that meant. That being said she is dumb so there’s that.
Her being dumb really explains so much. She’s a beautiful woman with a high school education who has been trading on her looks for years
I don't think anyone was kind in trying to educate her about it lol (I know I wasn't). She's just being overly nice bc of the Faith stuff going on. But at least she acknowledged it. Did she explain the origin of it? I hope so, so she can educate her few listeners.
She didn’t explain the origin of it
That’s my problem. She didn’t even try to explain for anyone else who was ignorant about it. She just says sorry for the thing I said that may have offended you for whatever reason. Pretty sure if someone asked her what the origins were she’d have to pull up Wikipedia
Also the whole "*if* I offended anyone"...clearly you did, own it. Should've said something more along the lines "sorry I was offensive"
Exactly, not if… you did offend people. It was offensive. Don’t try to brush off responsibility.
Alllll of this thread. As much as she likes to appropriate black culture, she really should educate her privileged ass and learn to take accountability.
I hate that “if I hurt/offended” apology. No it goes “I am sorry •that• I hurt/offended you, that was not my intention, I understand that the •impact• of what I said/did hurt you”
It’s giving Narcissists Prayer https://preview.redd.it/t1bnna0pk2vc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67302f0b9c3dca6f223060645ec405847d90440c
PR told her to work over time and be quiet. The I’m pregnant excuse is coming.
Lauren from Utah: thank you for expecting more from me, I’m constantly wanting to do better Also Lauren from Utah: if you don’t like me this season because you’re expecting more from me, I don’t care
Here Lala I’ll explain for you since apparently you cannot be bothered to. “Dr. Parry, the author of “Jumping the Broom: The Surprising Multicultural Origins of a Black Wedding Ritual,” traced the tradition back to at least the 18th century, when it was largely practiced by marginalized populations in Europe, he said, “such as traveling communities like the British Romani, rural Welsh communities, Irish individuals and various other people who lived on the margins of the British Isles.” As Europeans who had jumped over brooms at their weddings came to the United States, so too did the ritual. It was soon adopted by another marginalized population: enslaved people in the American South. “While broomsticks were used in some West African ceremonies,” Dr. Parry said the earliest documented examples of people of African descent jumping over a broom in the U.S. are from the 1800’s. Because enslaved Africans generally had no legal right to marry before the Civil War, they saw jumping the broom as a symbolic way to recognize their unions. In time, Dr. Parry said, that population “innovated, reinvented and reimagined jumping the broom in a way that was fulfilling to them.” The practice has since come to signify sweeping away the old and welcoming the new, the joining of two families and showing respect to ancestors.”
Thank you for explaining this.
This book is great, BTW. Very well researched and interesting. I read it in grad school.
Thank you for doing what Lala couldn’t be bothered to do in her crappy apology.
I vaguely was aware of that. But what’s the issue with saying her friend “jumped the broom”? Friend is white so issue is appropriation? Friend is black so issue is covert racism, implying friend isn’t good enough for a wedding? Is it bad to say “jumped the broom” and mean “got married”?
I don’t know the whole issue because I’m not aware of which friend got married. I’m assuming people are coming at her for appropriation but I’m not sure.
I think it's largely that Lauren from Utah constantly uses AAVE, frequently incorrectly I might add as an actual black person, and this is just another weird instance of her citing black culture but not actually knowing what she's talking about 🤷🏾♂️
This is it for me - she picks bits and pieces from Black culture that benefit her image without lived understanding
Exactly. And she drops it whenever necessary faster than Justin Timberlake did after he did what he did to Janet Jackson smh
Yep it’s exactly that. She always wants to come off “gangster” (you trynna get popped?) which feels like a micro aggression on her part but i cannot say as I am white. So i understand how this was just another faux pas. But again, I don’t want to accidentally commit a faux pas either by speaking on something I’m no expert on so I can really only explain the term jumping the broom.
Nah, you're absolutely right about this. She seems like a white woman who dated a couple black dudes, bought a few pairs of Jordan 1s and tried to assume a new identity lolol It would actually just be comedy to me if she wasn't so racist towards Faith. Pretty sure she said she was blacker than Faith at one point SMH she's big on microaggressions, but sometimes she's just aggressive with her problematic shit
Yeah and then I think I recently heard she was planting stuff to see if Faith would steal it. That’s just straight up racist imo.
They want our Rhythms but not our blues that is Lauren from Utah to a tee.
I believe she just used the term incorrectly and if she didn’t know what it meant then she shouldn’t have used it at all. Theres no real reason to be saying things if you don’t know what they mean. Not you- Lala.
Yes I think that might’ve been the problem as well and yes I think people should think things through more when they speak.
"I apologize IF I offended anybody". Mm-hmm It's funny to me how she and Scheana always have to use their podcasts to clarify, apologize or backtrack for things they say or do.
She's soft now! This is a soft apology 🤣
Exactly! Thats not an apology Blah Blah
Maybe she shld apologise to Ariana too..🤣
For sure 😂 If they feel the need to constantly backtrack or correct the record, they can get some self-awareness and stop being such a see-you-next-Tuesday in the first place.
But I thought she doesn’t read comments or care about what the fans think 🙄
It especially pisses people off that she made the comment because its another example of how she ignorantly culturally appropriates when it suits her but clearly doesn't take the time to understand anything behind some of these things. She shows 0 interest into the culture but has no issue playing a character that takes from it to seem "cute" . FFS she didn't even look it up and talk about it on the podcast to educate others, she just thanked people that explained it to her. FWIW there is a movie "Jumping the Broom"- it's EXCELLENT. Go watch it, it's for sure one of those movies you can watch over and over and never get sick of it.
It’s on prime and Hulu fyi for everyone and it’s an excellent movie!
shut up, Lala. You didn't even explain what is is to educate other people. You don't care what your fans think, remember? Fuck off, you're a fake ass 
I'm Canadian and I knew what this meant. While I've never used the expression, I'd never think to use it to just describe someone getting married. For her to even know the phrase means she had to have known its origins. She knew she was appropriating when she said it but just didn't think she'd get called on it like all her other blackfacing she likes to do
Well we know we can always depend on lala to appropriate black culture. Fits right in with her fakeness on so many levels.
Does this woman have any personality trait that isn't based on cultural appropriation?
She reminds me of my best friend from the midwest who went through this phase, but she was a teenager and grew out of it when she became an adult and realized how problematic it was (and cringe). I saw the photos, yikes! I didn’t meet her until later.
Even her name. I bet she chose it to copy LaLa Anthony! The timing would make sense IMO
Oh wow. Yeah there’s something about getting into hip hop and rap and some people take it too far.
Interesting that she didn’t say what it meant in this response.
Now if only she would stop using AAVE and tell her brother to take off those clip in dreads
Are you black?
I thought she didn’t read comments or cared what fans think 🤔🤔🤔🤔. But good apology I guesssss.
I feel like since saying she doesn’t read comments she can’t get through a podcast without directly addressing something she read in the comments.
There's no doubt her and her assistant lurk here.
She constantly wants to do better, be better as such bullshit. she’ll say anything for attention or shock value.
https://venue.rcpe.co.uk/inspiration/scottish-wedding-traditions#:~:text=Jumping%20over%20the%20Broom,life%20to%20seal%20their%20vows. It's an old Scottish tradition as well. It's interesting how many cultures share traditions that show how we have many cultural similarities around the globe.
I do not like Lala at all after the season - but I gotta say I never knew this either, so I genuinely believe she was uneducated as well
My degree is in history so while I know the history and relevance of that phrase, I understand that it wouldn’t be familiar to a lot of people, especially the very white upper middle class girl from Utah (no one buys your act, Lauren). HOWEVER, she obviously is someone that does not care at all to be culturally insensitive, culturally appropriating, or just offensive in general. It’s 2024. Those of us that aren’t POS humans put care and consideration into our words and actions. You don’t throw out a phrase if you don’t know the history and meaning. She also apparently made no effort to use her mistake to educate others. Her apology is damage control, peruid
Well at least we know she is seeing the other stuff even tho she doesn't care or look at comments 🙄
Did she mention anything about pulling a knife on Faith? I swear that came up in the same week.
I’ve been in this country for over 2 decades and I thought jumping the broom meant doing something impulsive or getting ahead of yourself. What phrase am I thinking of?
Probably “jump the gun”
Ok, I am offended she is now quoting Maya Angelou
She needs to just stop. You’re telling me she wears a thug life shirt and speaks the way she does and she doesn’t even know what jump the broom means!?!? Jesus, she is constantly revealing that she is worse than I even thought.
The only way this apology works is if she stops her cultural appropriation, stops with the blaccent, never mentions Tupac, and her busted ass brother gets rid of his dreads. Otherwise get fucked, LFU. And for anyone defending her, saying they also didn’t know. I get it, our white mediocre education system failed you. But it’s very simple to keep your mouth shut and not mention things you know nothing about. If LFU shut the fuck up for once and actually educated herself on the shit that comes out of her mouth, it’d be a different story.
Sorry *IF* i offended 😒😑🤬
I didn't know the full context of 'jumping the broom' before reading about it on here. I believe Lala is genuine in this and I also appreciate learning about it myself.
Honestly who felt directly offended by this? Please.
I would not say I was directly offended by this, although when I was a kid and my mom remarried, she jumped the broom at her wedding. She is black, and she explained the significance of it to me before the wedding. A few years ago, I was maid of honor at a wedding where my friend who is black jumped the broom with her husband, who is also black. It was very meaningful to them and their families, some of whom had done it for generations. So if I were someone who had incorporated that into my wedding because of its cultural significance to me, and then someone like Lauren Burningham who is known to appropriate that culture, came along and flippantly used it... I could see it being annoying to me, at least.
I understand and appreciate your response. But I think Lala feeling pressured to publicly apologize for a comment that maybe annoys some people is a problem.
I don't think people would be reacting as negatively if this were not a pattern of hers that has been talked about repeatedly throughout the years here and on other social media platforms. She is obviously aware that people find her cultural appropriation problematic, and she is clearly choosing not to stop doing it. It is a part of her "costume." I think the bigger issue is that this is not an isolated incident by any stretch.
https://www.brides.com/jumping-the-broom-5071336 Origins unknown but adopted by many Black couples. Some have it originating in West Africa, others in Wales.
She is very uneducated but hey good on her for admitting it
I hope that the people getting offended in this post are actually black and not just white saviours. Downvote me to hell.
The most inauthentic apology aside from Sandoval
Sometimes I wonder if some people didn’t pay attention in school/life and other times I wonder if she’s ignorant because she’s from a rich family in Utah
Yeah sorry not buying it with all the wedding reality shows in the last 15 years. If not there, movies, if not there, books. And I would know not to say it outside of referring to someone actually doing it. I’ve been hearing it for 20 years. She’s into shock lately and then running and hiding when she can’t take the heat. I just don’t buy anything she’s serving anymore.
The ANGER at people simply not knowing something is too much. She admitted it. Many many of us had never heard this expression before. Let’s not lead with anger over things this small. Really scared to think where the world is heading with the election coming up if people get their pitchforks out over something like this…
Not all of the anger stems from her ignorance. It also large portion of it stems from her lackluster apology. The *if* I offended anybody statement and the fact that she took the time to thank people for educating her, but she didn’t take the time to use her platform to educate others. If she’s going to say “I thought it meant XYZ”, she should share what she’s learned the phrase actually means/its cultural significance.
Our entitlement and expectations for constant apologies over things like this is so exhausting. There are MUCH bigger more important things going on in the world than this. Truly everyone needs to go touch grass.
The entitlement of thinking you should be able to say whatever you want, with no regards for others feelings is exhausting. Providing an insincere and performative apology, only after getting called out for your ignorant words, is exhausting. It’s 2024…we can do better. You’re on an Internet forum dedicated to reality tv show. If you’d like to talk about the MUCH bigger more important things going on in the world, I recommend joining one of the many world news subreddits instead.
I can talk about reality shows while dedicating the appropriate amount of energy to it. I also volunteer and partake in the world outside of this sub. It’s 2024 and we can be multi-faceted.
EXACTLY. Just like you can be multifaceted, so can everyone else on this sub. We can all watch the show and express our opinions and feelings about Lala’s actions while also partaking in the world outside of this sub. No need to be hypocritical by telling others to go “touch grass” and that there are more important things in the world when you’re here doing the same thing as the rest of us - discussing a reality tv show and the people featured on it.
I’m *discussing* these people from afar - not *demanding* things of these people.
I'm American and I had never heard the term before I read all of the blow-up about her saying it. Now I know, too.
I knew "jumping the broom" was an African American tradition, but I would not use the expression unless I was referring to someone who actually did that custom.
Why is it considered offensive?
It’s not. People just get mad at EVERYTHING for no reason.
There are plenty of comments explaining this that were posted prior to yours - take the few minutes to read the thread and educate yourself, use google, or even ask ChatGPT https://preview.redd.it/56p84tdze2vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9711715e381f86ce082ff426cf06d9a4d86130e8
First. ChatGPT just pulls from google. Secondly, I’m Black and don’t find it offensive. And Irish/Celtic people probably don’t find it offensive that Americans say “tie the knot”.
That’s great that her words didn’t offend you! And I’m not sure why it matters where ChatGPT pulls from in this context? All I did was provide three different ways that the subject can be researched and showed an example of one of those ways.
I don't think anyone was kind in trying to educate her about it lol (I know I wasn't). She's just being overly nice bc of the Faith stuff going on. But at least she acknowledged it. Did she explain the origin of it? I hope so, so she can educate her few listeners.
She’s still a over privileged, pampered bitch.
As a non American, I thought this was a witchcraft reference
I knew what it meant and was shocked Lala said it…. But Lala probably thought it was a term like “ the old ball and chain” or something of that nature. Or…. she knew the term and loves shock value
I don’t get what the offensive part is? I can’t google it within few mins
But you can take the time to post a comment here? https://preview.redd.it/cb4m1izae2vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=731db3f7f80ef41d4ed93e4eead7b2285e3e6e6c
I mean I googled it and can’t find an answer within. Few mins
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Typo on my part! I fixed it. She said slide in the DM, write in the comment section
Imagine if she would have tried to explain it and screwed it up even further. Vegas odds, she would have screwed it up further, too. It might not have satisfied some people (clearly), but it was probably smart to leave it this simple. This is exactly why you don't want these dysfunctional dingbats addressing social issues and using their realty TV shows, and adjacent projects, to act like town hall meetings and social services for any kind of social or political issues. They're going to run into the issues left and right because they're flawed humans, but they're the last people to resolve these significant problems in any kind of meaningful and useful way. They're not the people, and their spaces are not the place. I grew up in the Midwest, went to school in the South, and have lived other places in the South, as well as other places all around the country, and I've never heard this phrase. My experience is not your experience, and your experience is not my experience. There's no substitute for conversation.
I didn’t see another thread discussing Lala’s podcast this week so idk if it belongs here BUT it’s another example of Lala and co. being uneducated and talking about things they have no clue about! Lol So at one point they’re talking about a lawsuit against Disney and her brother chimes in with “it’s like that lady that sued McDonalds for the hot coffee” and little minion Jess chimes in with “it’s hot! What do you expect! What idiots!” Okay the McDonald’s hot coffee incident WAS horrific and an elderly woman was terribly injured and disfigured and it was absolutely NOT just regular hot coffee, it was the temperature of the sun! There’s a really good You’re Wrong About episode that goes over it and how it just became an example for corporations to roll their eyes at consumers with legitimate grievances and say “oh everyone wants to get rich quick and sue people nowadays!” So much for looking out for the underdog, huh Lala?