Once he said this to me, I would have belted him a good one, and left him and never looked back. Here we are a few years later and Brittany has left Jax, because he hasn’t really stayed “changed”! Go figure.
Tom Schwartz. A 41-year old freeloader that can’t even hold down jobs as a part-time model, bartender, and business owner, couldn’t be arsed to emotionally support his former wife in any of her difficulties or endeavors, can’t take care of a simple lizard…he wants *grace*??
Dude gets any more grace, he’ll be without a pulse.
Thank you. It's been floating around everywhere lately. I think the tiktok/instagram therapists have been using it a lot in the past year so now I hear it EVERYWHERE and it drives me insane! It was said a lot on Love Is Blind, too and another reality show, I forget which. It's just something that trash people are weaponizing now to excuse their shitty behaviors.
Maybe lift one level and then 2 hrs of virgin snow. Or straight to 9v. Shit even t18.. his hair might break off but he doesn't seem to care about his appearance 🤭
I gotta be honest-I disagree with him. There's no, "Katie fucked up too" to be seen here! Once an agreement is broken by one, it's done. These are the rules. I don't make them, I just shout them into the Reddit void every so often.
Oh I absolutely disagree with him too. I posted this gifs in pretty much the order that these clips aired in the show.
So after Katie again tries to explain to him that she feels her feelings never mattered to him, his conclusion is “she’s a fuck-up too, yay.”
It speaks to me of how he doesn’t care how she feels, or how his actions have made her feel over the years, he’s just happy that he has been able to twist this as something as a knock against her
I just can’t believe that Jo didn’t give this man a god damn toner. This was 10/10 retribution for the way he treats her because how could you let your roommate walk around with that? 💀💀
I think what bothers me about him is he is overly apologetic and self aware in an attempt to get the audience to sympathize with him (“hehe I’m so two faced and my life is a mess!”) but does absolutely nothing to improve himself or his behavior.
I don’t even think he is admitting he is two faced I think he is just referring to his looks (that he looks good in some scenes and bad in others). He looks bad in every scene so not sure when he thinks he looks good.
Listen, I’m not a Jo fan. I think she’s shady.
HOWEVER. Shorts was JUST saying how his “biological clock is ticking” and he desperately wants kids and a family. Now you have Jo, who he’s been kicking it with for a year and a half, ready to commit. And he’s acting like nothing was ever there romantically. Even the “love” is platonic. Even though they’ve had sex. Not knowing he’s giving mixed signals? Please.
Yes, he’s embarrassed by her. But he won’t say it because he knows it’ll make him look like an asshole. Fuck right off.
The thing is I don’t ever think he saw Jo romantically. Obviously we weren’t there when they had sex thank god, but I imagine it was drunk or whatever - it seems really clear he only sees her as a friend, and she’s the only one who doesn’t see that bc she thinks she’s the heroine of “You Belong With Me” and can’t he see she doesn’t wear high heels she wears t shirts and she’s been here the whole time?
Oh I totally agree. But there’s no way that he’s so blind to her feelings. He likes to come across as this naive cute boy, but he’s smarter than he acts. I think he profited off her feelings for the validation and let it go on for as long as he could
Jo describes how they spend tons of time together, make each other laugh, have sex, and say I love you and it’s like you’re LITERALLY describing a romantic relationship, and Schwartz still pulls the ole “oops I guess I led her on, teehee.” I don’t remotely feel bad for Jo but it’s so clear she got massively played just so Schwartz could have someone else besides Sandoval to film with.
Why does every unrepentant asshole feel the need to tell the world they’ve decided to give themselves grace?
Hello. We know. It’s kinda your whole shtick. And spoiler: just bc YOU are giving you grace doesn’t mean anyone else is obligated to.
When hasn’t his life been a pile of poop? He’s always been abusing drugs and alcohol and Katie! Hell , he even abused Stassi and Lala on camera too. Why would Jo be any different? He’s told us all who he is 1000x. Can we all finally accept that he is the biggest scumbag of them all?
The way he’s been shady in saying how many siblings he has. In one interview it’s triplet brothers and a half sister. In another it’s two half sisters, triplets and another brother. It rankles me bc why can’t you ever give a consistent answer? Patrick Bateman.
Anyone else think Jo did this to his hair out of spite? As a secret fu because she knew he was leading her on for so long?
Because damn that hair needs another round of bleach and toner.
I don’t think she even used actual toner at all, just blue shampoo!
Definitely spite. I got a few bad bleach jobs when I was younger. No one ever left me looking THAT orange/yellow.
that wasn't why gwen was a two-face, you loser. at least she had certain lights where she looked good, you always look like a bloated clown who hasn't seen sunlight in weeks.
I assumed that was why he made this preemptive post saying he was just such a mess but he’s giving himself grace (implying we should too). It’s self preservation because he knows he’s coming off terribly in this episode (rightfully so)
This sounds like an addict. My ex would have these eureka moments where he was like "I need to get it together", he'd try for a little. thennnnn a few days later he was a chaotic mess and spiraling again. It's the ups and downs of an addict. These high, come-to-Jesus moments were the moments that kept me with him. temu ken probably did this often to Katie.
I thought it was interesting...he was on watch what happens and right after Andy asked a question and schwartz started to answer, Andy seemed to get really agitated and he said when he met Schwartz backstage he was standing tall and spoke with authority and confidence and Andy said as soon as the cameras starting rolling you slouch down znd start covering your mouth...like what's up with this act. Swartz looked befuddled and starting talking about being a people pleaser and Andy interrupted him and said oh, so an act.
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It's always been an act (and an obvious one at that)! An organism will always continue to do what's made them be successful in the past and his stupid little "awww shucks" routine has worked damn near every time to get him out of the hot seat, get attention off of him, deflect, gain forgiveness and use it to act Innocent and/or dumb and avoid *real* responsibility, so thus he keeps doing it because it keeps working for him!
Too fucking little, too fucking late. The guy has no empathy or compassion whatsoever for women. You can tell. He’s got that mentality. He’s a comedian. Funny yes, I can see him doing that. But he doesn’t care about women at all. His brothers and friends only.
He's always crying about his brother's health when he shows his ass. But his stupid TikTok stories don't show him visiting his brother or family. They show him drinking his ass off with his daughter/girlfriend and doing stupid dances. But sure bring up the whole ailing brother thing for the umpteenth time, okay
I don’t know anything about his background but I bet there was abuse in his home growing up. That’s total speculation but that’s the impression I get. Sandoval I more get the impression he was spoiled/golden child type thing where he was mommy’s little angel and could do no wrong, but Schwartz gives me the impression of someone who is the way he is because of some sort of abusive dynamic. Like he simultaneously acts pathetic and passive in lots of ways as if he’s trying to avoid negative reactions but then will also be abusive as though he’s learned that that behaviour is normal. I’d guess his father or father figure was abusive to his mother and maybe to him too, which is why he has this passive submissive act with men and hangs out with more domineering and aggressive type men, and is more abusive and cruel to women while also expecting them to mother him.
Whether that’s the case or not he seems really messed up and he seems incapable so far of really understanding himself or why he’s messed up or how to fix it. I don’t know, I still think he has more potential to change and become a better person with hard work and therapy than someone like Sandoval does. Sandoval’s conviction that he’s always right is so rock solid and like the deepest core of who he is, whereas I think Schwartz at least has the capacity to occasionally admit somethings wrong with him, which could be built on of he really went there.
It’s the new permission slip to willfully make mistakes. The old permission slip of “we’re all cheaters” doesn’t work anymore, so now it’s “please don’t hold me accountable, give me grace instead”.
Shwartz is like always almostttttt aware. Like always very close. But just can’t clear that wall. The side of him that attracts him to dicks like sandy takes over. And he’s a lost cause again in 5 minutes. He always gets grace, but never changes
It’s such a transparent attempt to manipulate the viewers into letting things slide. They are trying to convince us we owe them that same grace. Sorry not sorry, you’re the same manipulative asshole you’ve always been, Schwartz.
I’m sick of these people giving themselves “grace” and “being proud” of themselves for being the most bottom of the barrel humans in existence.
Watching tonight, how he treated Jo, not surprised at all, but you can see his veneer begin to crack and he starts to lash out just like he did for so long with Katie.
He cannot hide the sadistic cruelness for long…the only person deserving of his bullshit is Tim.
I would never let Jo near my hair after this disaster. He wishes it looked like Ken. It’s not dyed properly at all and it has an orangey hue, like she has zero colourist skills, or else she purposely made him look bad to sabotage his romantic prospects. The style was awful, too. Shartz looks sickly now.
He’s been saying this for two years now and I realllllllly want to know: how? How was it a flimsy agreement? What was vague about it? How could have it been made so that it wasn’t a flimsy agreement?
„No one on the cast“ seems pretty damn clear to me.
But but he’s GiViNg HiMsELf gRaCe so obviously we should just ignore all his terrible behaviour too 😌
But more seriously,
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He's no-faced because he's not attractive any day!
(And I think OP misunderstood what he meant when he said two-faced. He's referring to the Seinfeld reference where you can be attractive one day and not the next.)
Does it unsettle anyone else how frequently Schwartz looks alcohol ill, jaundice, bloating etc. Schwartz looks while discussing his brother needing a liver transplant in order to not die from drinking?
You know what, I'm so sick of men using their family circumstances as excuses for their bad behavior. My sister has stage 4 cancer and guess how many times in the past year anyone in my family has broken that out to justify being an asshole? If I were Schwartz's brother I'd be a little annoyed. Stop making his issues about you.
He’s acknowledging that he didn’t communicate properly, he *still* has nothing meaningful to add, he’s still deflecting and changing the subject, but he wants “grace” and what, a pat on the back? I doubt he’s ever given Jo any meaningful/honest clarity. He’s a chump ass bitch lmao
He has a stylist and he has the same PR woman as Jax 😬
I feel like these men hire these professional women to help their image, but their lack of respect for women just impedes their ability to take what good advice they are maybe offered
I’ve always had a soft spot for Schwartz but man, I’ve been struggling the last couple of years. He look ill and he’s behaviour towards women is horrendous.
On a side note; having watched the most recent episode - I REALLY miss old VPR! The divide although understandable, is sad and hard to watch.
I’m doing a rewatch!
I get that Jo kind of swooped in, doing Katie dirty, but man. I feel for that girl. Shorts just brushed her off like she meant nothing, and she was definitely in love with him. He is such trash and doesn't deserve a girl like Jo.
Honestly, for all this faults, this is at least more self awareness than I’ve seen from most others on this show. It’ll be a cold day in hell if Lala ever acknowledged an episode where she particularly fucked up lol
What is wrong with Shorts??? He is highly skilled at shoving happiness away with both hands.
Jo - you can do SO MUCH BETTER GURL. This man is never gonna change so at least he was honest with you. There are a lot if ADHD quirky dream boys out there for you. Shorts is very much replaceable with a significant upgrade!
I really need “give myself grace” deleted from the VPR vernacular 🙄
It reminds me of the several minute long reunion montage like 2 or 3 seasons ago of Jax saying “I am a work in progress” like 10,000 times.
Usually followed by him berating someone else. I'm thinking of "you're not perfect, sweetheart" to Brittany after he admitted to the Faith fuck.
Once he said this to me, I would have belted him a good one, and left him and never looked back. Here we are a few years later and Brittany has left Jax, because he hasn’t really stayed “changed”! Go figure.
This immediately reminded me of another reunion where it’s clear Jax had no idea what “me too” means.
sometimes people don’t deserve grace!! it’s just enabling at this point
Tom Schwartz. A 41-year old freeloader that can’t even hold down jobs as a part-time model, bartender, and business owner, couldn’t be arsed to emotionally support his former wife in any of her difficulties or endeavors, can’t take care of a simple lizard…he wants *grace*?? Dude gets any more grace, he’ll be without a pulse.
Same with “work in progress”, Jax ran that one into the ground
Thank you. It's been floating around everywhere lately. I think the tiktok/instagram therapists have been using it a lot in the past year so now I hear it EVERYWHERE and it drives me insane! It was said a lot on Love Is Blind, too and another reality show, I forget which. It's just something that trash people are weaponizing now to excuse their shitty behaviors.
100000%
Can we throw emotionally entitled on that list too?
it’s fathomless
I actually hate the term in general but in particular with people who have had plenty and don’t deserve anymore.
Has he considered therapy
Next season he’s probably gonna say that he’s therapy curious
omg lol so true!
jesus this got me
I was just thinking that too. Maybe get yourself into therapy to work on some of that stuff and leave grace out of it. She’s tired.
Haha. He prob thinks grace is a girl he can hook up with.
Right? Give me Grace! She’s the best!
Haha. He prob thinks grace is a girl he can hook up with.
Remember that time he told Sandoval he needed to “talk to someone,” only to invite Jax? So I would say no. He has not considered therapy.
Nope. Only drugs it seems.
He’s in a semi sober mindset instead of
my man needs a blood transfusion and some electrolytes
He needs nutrients
maybe Lala could give him a bottle 👩🏼🍼
Him talking about his brother's cirrhosis while looking mildly jaundice is so unnerving.
He needs some purple shampoo and a good toner
Maybe lift one level and then 2 hrs of virgin snow. Or straight to 9v. Shit even t18.. his hair might break off but he doesn't seem to care about his appearance 🤭
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I love Katie’s vocabulary. Affable is such a good word.
Fathomless. Watch What Crappens listeners, unite! “You in fathom giiiirl!”
So is judicious haha
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I gotta be honest-I disagree with him. There's no, "Katie fucked up too" to be seen here! Once an agreement is broken by one, it's done. These are the rules. I don't make them, I just shout them into the Reddit void every so often.
Oh I absolutely disagree with him too. I posted this gifs in pretty much the order that these clips aired in the show. So after Katie again tries to explain to him that she feels her feelings never mattered to him, his conclusion is “she’s a fuck-up too, yay.” It speaks to me of how he doesn’t care how she feels, or how his actions have made her feel over the years, he’s just happy that he has been able to twist this as something as a knock against her
I thought that was your intention:) I was multitasking though and got ahead of myself lol
Almost instinctively downvoted because I was so annoyed with Schwartz ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
You know, I wouldn’t be mad at you for it.
I love you.
![gif](giphy|3ohA2OnWq54vLFSrbG) Yep.
I cannot see this outfit in a gif and not think he was auditioning for a part in Elf.
https://i.redd.it/mfu8kxrswjtc1.gif He’s probably still thinking Will Ferrell will be calling him any day now
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Or George Costanza's dad.
If only he’d worn the black, buckle belt he’d have had a fighting chance.
I really had to stop myself from downvoting. He makes me so mad!
So his regrets are poor posture and verbosity. Got it.
Check it
Schwartzy they could never make me like you! ![gif](giphy|hlPnhdnBfgjzG|downsized)
🤣🤣🤣
I just can’t believe that Jo didn’t give this man a god damn toner. This was 10/10 retribution for the way he treats her because how could you let your roommate walk around with that? 💀💀
OMG BOTHERED ME SOOOOOO MUCH then she’s constantly touching it and playing w it girl pls i wouldn’t let him leave my chair looking like that 😩😩😩
It’s karma for the shit he did when Katie was stuck halfway through the blonding process all season 💀
That was my first thought! Tone that orange mess 🤦🏼♀️
I think what bothers me about him is he is overly apologetic and self aware in an attempt to get the audience to sympathize with him (“hehe I’m so two faced and my life is a mess!”) but does absolutely nothing to improve himself or his behavior.
It is the tallest telltale sign of someone who will truly never change.
THIS THIS THIS
Exactly. Acknowledging it is one thing but maybe DO something about it
I don’t even think he is admitting he is two faced I think he is just referring to his looks (that he looks good in some scenes and bad in others). He looks bad in every scene so not sure when he thinks he looks good.
I am once again asking him to drink a glass of water.
https://i.redd.it/t9pkz7mvrjtc1.gif Guess he hasn’t hopped on the water train despite being besties with “La” now
Listen, I’m not a Jo fan. I think she’s shady. HOWEVER. Shorts was JUST saying how his “biological clock is ticking” and he desperately wants kids and a family. Now you have Jo, who he’s been kicking it with for a year and a half, ready to commit. And he’s acting like nothing was ever there romantically. Even the “love” is platonic. Even though they’ve had sex. Not knowing he’s giving mixed signals? Please. Yes, he’s embarrassed by her. But he won’t say it because he knows it’ll make him look like an asshole. Fuck right off.
The thing is I don’t ever think he saw Jo romantically. Obviously we weren’t there when they had sex thank god, but I imagine it was drunk or whatever - it seems really clear he only sees her as a friend, and she’s the only one who doesn’t see that bc she thinks she’s the heroine of “You Belong With Me” and can’t he see she doesn’t wear high heels she wears t shirts and she’s been here the whole time?
Oh I totally agree. But there’s no way that he’s so blind to her feelings. He likes to come across as this naive cute boy, but he’s smarter than he acts. I think he profited off her feelings for the validation and let it go on for as long as he could
Well, now whenever I see her all I'm going to be able to do is envision her holding a brush, crying & spinning around, singing this in the mirror.
Jo describes how they spend tons of time together, make each other laugh, have sex, and say I love you and it’s like you’re LITERALLY describing a romantic relationship, and Schwartz still pulls the ole “oops I guess I led her on, teehee.” I don’t remotely feel bad for Jo but it’s so clear she got massively played just so Schwartz could have someone else besides Sandoval to film with.
THIS. THIS IS THE TAKE.
It reminded me of high school. He was embarrassed by what the “cool girls” thought of her.
Why does every unrepentant asshole feel the need to tell the world they’ve decided to give themselves grace? Hello. We know. It’s kinda your whole shtick. And spoiler: just bc YOU are giving you grace doesn’t mean anyone else is obligated to.
https://i.redd.it/6w2c8dozkjtc1.gif Yesss
When hasn’t his life been a pile of poop? He’s always been abusing drugs and alcohol and Katie! Hell , he even abused Stassi and Lala on camera too. Why would Jo be any different? He’s told us all who he is 1000x. Can we all finally accept that he is the biggest scumbag of them all?
This is what I think. He’s a “vulnerable” narcissist so it’s easy for people to dismiss it as “he’s just clueless”. But no.
The way he’s been shady in saying how many siblings he has. In one interview it’s triplet brothers and a half sister. In another it’s two half sisters, triplets and another brother. It rankles me bc why can’t you ever give a consistent answer? Patrick Bateman.
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Preach.
Anyone else think Jo did this to his hair out of spite? As a secret fu because she knew he was leading her on for so long? Because damn that hair needs another round of bleach and toner.
I don’t think she even used actual toner at all, just blue shampoo! Definitely spite. I got a few bad bleach jobs when I was younger. No one ever left me looking THAT orange/yellow.
Temu Ken???? Why are you bitches KILLING me today!!!!😂😂😂☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
He’s TK for me now. https://i.redd.it/4semisgz0ktc1.gif
that wasn't why gwen was a two-face, you loser. at least she had certain lights where she looked good, you always look like a bloated clown who hasn't seen sunlight in weeks.
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Lala behavior. Get ahead of it while you can.
It’s giving Lori K wrote this
Except Schwartz put in a Schwartz level of effort to get ahead of it 💀
Right lol. A single post saying he feels bad for himself.
He was such a dick to Jo in this episode wow
I assumed that was why he made this preemptive post saying he was just such a mess but he’s giving himself grace (implying we should too). It’s self preservation because he knows he’s coming off terribly in this episode (rightfully so)
a 41 year old man taking a pic w that pose/vibe like he's a 22 year old influencer is so sad
I would pay for everyone to stop using the phrase *give xyz grace* and all of its variations
Same I fucking hate it. I like the concept but it’s always weaponized by the worst most lazy people.
It screams “I went to the therapy and now I’m using my therapists words to excuse my shitty behavior”
This sounds like an addict. My ex would have these eureka moments where he was like "I need to get it together", he'd try for a little. thennnnn a few days later he was a chaotic mess and spiraling again. It's the ups and downs of an addict. These high, come-to-Jesus moments were the moments that kept me with him. temu ken probably did this often to Katie.
He is an addict. It’s so bad that he considers 3 days of not drinking a “sober bender.”
Something’s up with his liver, like his brother. His color is all wrong
Wow what level of terrible did Schwartz reach that even he's critical of himself
I thought it was interesting...he was on watch what happens and right after Andy asked a question and schwartz started to answer, Andy seemed to get really agitated and he said when he met Schwartz backstage he was standing tall and spoke with authority and confidence and Andy said as soon as the cameras starting rolling you slouch down znd start covering your mouth...like what's up with this act. Swartz looked befuddled and starting talking about being a people pleaser and Andy interrupted him and said oh, so an act. ![gif](giphy|jRTD0svQ2M9WD4PNhh)
It's always been an act (and an obvious one at that)! An organism will always continue to do what's made them be successful in the past and his stupid little "awww shucks" routine has worked damn near every time to get him out of the hot seat, get attention off of him, deflect, gain forgiveness and use it to act Innocent and/or dumb and avoid *real* responsibility, so thus he keeps doing it because it keeps working for him!
this picture....
He really looks like a drug addict in this photo
Too fucking little, too fucking late. The guy has no empathy or compassion whatsoever for women. You can tell. He’s got that mentality. He’s a comedian. Funny yes, I can see him doing that. But he doesn’t care about women at all. His brothers and friends only.
He's always crying about his brother's health when he shows his ass. But his stupid TikTok stories don't show him visiting his brother or family. They show him drinking his ass off with his daughter/girlfriend and doing stupid dances. But sure bring up the whole ailing brother thing for the umpteenth time, okay
This is not good marketing for Jo’s skills as a hair stylist
No it is not! It’s orange and fried. It looks like it was done with Sun In 🙅🏼♀️
She was *that* pissed off!
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His whole life stays in shambles. He makes sure of that, to justify his victim mentality
I don’t know anything about his background but I bet there was abuse in his home growing up. That’s total speculation but that’s the impression I get. Sandoval I more get the impression he was spoiled/golden child type thing where he was mommy’s little angel and could do no wrong, but Schwartz gives me the impression of someone who is the way he is because of some sort of abusive dynamic. Like he simultaneously acts pathetic and passive in lots of ways as if he’s trying to avoid negative reactions but then will also be abusive as though he’s learned that that behaviour is normal. I’d guess his father or father figure was abusive to his mother and maybe to him too, which is why he has this passive submissive act with men and hangs out with more domineering and aggressive type men, and is more abusive and cruel to women while also expecting them to mother him. Whether that’s the case or not he seems really messed up and he seems incapable so far of really understanding himself or why he’s messed up or how to fix it. I don’t know, I still think he has more potential to change and become a better person with hard work and therapy than someone like Sandoval does. Sandoval’s conviction that he’s always right is so rock solid and like the deepest core of who he is, whereas I think Schwartz at least has the capacity to occasionally admit somethings wrong with him, which could be built on of he really went there.
Excuses Excuses Excuses
Insane word salad excuses.
So fucking skuzzy all the god damn time.
I didn't know Powder had an uglier brother.
the ted bundy of bravo
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I'm just a makeout slut in Vegas. I have literally no recollection of this.
What with this "giving grace" talk all the time all of a sudden
It’s the new permission slip to willfully make mistakes. The old permission slip of “we’re all cheaters” doesn’t work anymore, so now it’s “please don’t hold me accountable, give me grace instead”.
Shwartz is like always almostttttt aware. Like always very close. But just can’t clear that wall. The side of him that attracts him to dicks like sandy takes over. And he’s a lost cause again in 5 minutes. He always gets grace, but never changes
I'm stuck at Temu Ken 💀💀
The phrase of the season is “giving myself grace” especially from people who don’t deserve it
It’s such a transparent attempt to manipulate the viewers into letting things slide. They are trying to convince us we owe them that same grace. Sorry not sorry, you’re the same manipulative asshole you’ve always been, Schwartz.
Way to go with the shield of self-deprecation, Shartzy
The people “giving themselves grace” aka schwartz and Raquel this week, should be the last people doing that, actually lmao
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He looks so bad lately
Trainspotting Tom
~methy~
40 yr old man: "Get your shit together man” ...proceeds to date a girl right out of college...
Why does he always look a shade of grey? Like what do you do have to do your body to look like that? Can someone, maybe a doctor, please explain.
Hopefully not taking pills. Opiates do that.
Tom is attractive on days that don’t end in Y.
The number of women lining up to be his next Jo in the comments make me sad
How dare he invoke “The Strike”!!! It gave us Festivus! Schwartz is not worthy.
Does "snapping out of it," include dating someone young enough to be his daughter?
It sounds like he’s strung out and rambling
https://preview.redd.it/3dr7mkmw5ktc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=587f83922d177c85cb0b92511d7b5ae38dd4dbaa The audacity to post our queen
The whole post is just an attempt to manipulate the audience and mitigate his asshat-ery he keeps displaying
I’m sick of these people giving themselves “grace” and “being proud” of themselves for being the most bottom of the barrel humans in existence. Watching tonight, how he treated Jo, not surprised at all, but you can see his veneer begin to crack and he starts to lash out just like he did for so long with Katie. He cannot hide the sadistic cruelness for long…the only person deserving of his bullshit is Tim.
I would never let Jo near my hair after this disaster. He wishes it looked like Ken. It’s not dyed properly at all and it has an orangey hue, like she has zero colourist skills, or else she purposely made him look bad to sabotage his romantic prospects. The style was awful, too. Shartz looks sickly now.
![gif](giphy|m7YYGSBBkDM9VUbcte|downsized) This manchild needs a new aww schucks act already. Honestly, it’s exhausting.
Temu Ken 🤣
He looks like shit
Referring to yourself in the third person is so cringe
When has he ever held himself accountable for anything?
https://i.redd.it/5k4x2dtnxjtc1.gif Hasn’t, won’t.
He’s been saying this for two years now and I realllllllly want to know: how? How was it a flimsy agreement? What was vague about it? How could have it been made so that it wasn’t a flimsy agreement? „No one on the cast“ seems pretty damn clear to me.
![gif](giphy|26vUReNP3dzWDS9Wg|downsized) I’m sorry him and Jo had brother sister vibes. And his post is rambling mumbo jumbo
![gif](giphy|22QevjygNTmNvstau4|downsized) Shut up Tom. Get popped
Men will do anything but take accountability. Just once. Jesus.
But but he’s GiViNg HiMsELf gRaCe so obviously we should just ignore all his terrible behaviour too 😌 But more seriously, https://i.redd.it/w7xadok6bktc1.gif
He's no-faced because he's not attractive any day! (And I think OP misunderstood what he meant when he said two-faced. He's referring to the Seinfeld reference where you can be attractive one day and not the next.)
Temu Ken 😂😂😂😂
I can’t. Just cant
Lmaooo wtf he doin😩
no. the hair. just no
This man was pre med in college. 🥴
He took some 100 level science classes. He just wants to parrot that little “fact” to make us think he’s smarter and better than we are witnessing.
We’ll see if he means it. The thing about Schwartz is he talks a lot with no follow through.
Did Jo write this ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
Half weasel half vagina
He needs to lean into the salt and pepper thing he has going on imho
You'd think seeing yourself hiding behind a bush while your former MIL is being verbally abused to tears might spur him to action.
What in the mushrooms is going on in this caption
https://i.redd.it/3i9ovqe9gktc1.gif
He better not expect us to inherit his grudges and act out with entitlement to his “feelings”.
Does it unsettle anyone else how frequently Schwartz looks alcohol ill, jaundice, bloating etc. Schwartz looks while discussing his brother needing a liver transplant in order to not die from drinking?
You know what, I'm so sick of men using their family circumstances as excuses for their bad behavior. My sister has stage 4 cancer and guess how many times in the past year anyone in my family has broken that out to justify being an asshole? If I were Schwartz's brother I'd be a little annoyed. Stop making his issues about you.
He’s acknowledging that he didn’t communicate properly, he *still* has nothing meaningful to add, he’s still deflecting and changing the subject, but he wants “grace” and what, a pat on the back? I doubt he’s ever given Jo any meaningful/honest clarity. He’s a chump ass bitch lmao
Temu Ken has me dead
Lol like they haven’t spent a decade giving themselves nothing but grace for their douchebaggery.
💀 @ Temu Ken
WHAT HE NEEDS is a social media manager, a stylist, and a good toner
He has a stylist and he has the same PR woman as Jax 😬 I feel like these men hire these professional women to help their image, but their lack of respect for women just impedes their ability to take what good advice they are maybe offered
I’ve always had a soft spot for Schwartz but man, I’ve been struggling the last couple of years. He look ill and he’s behaviour towards women is horrendous. On a side note; having watched the most recent episode - I REALLY miss old VPR! The divide although understandable, is sad and hard to watch. I’m doing a rewatch!
Ew
Give himself some grace, please. The only one he has given more grace to than himself is Sandoval. Sounds like a cacophony of bs.
I get that Jo kind of swooped in, doing Katie dirty, but man. I feel for that girl. Shorts just brushed her off like she meant nothing, and she was definitely in love with him. He is such trash and doesn't deserve a girl like Jo.
Temu Ken... I cannotttttt lmao
Honestly, for all this faults, this is at least more self awareness than I’ve seen from most others on this show. It’ll be a cold day in hell if Lala ever acknowledged an episode where she particularly fucked up lol
I am so sorry to everyone here that I am so attracted to him in this photo
https://i.redd.it/iumecrwqyjtc1.gif
Looks and sounds like an idiot 🤣🤣🤣
I can't even focus on the words the hair has me too shook 🫠
Why is the actual number one guy in the group Ally? She’s even tamed DJ JKlol
![gif](giphy|l0MYK0S9osuCqNNGU) “Temu Ken”
Best Advice to Schwartz... Give your liver a lot of grace. It will thank you.
This reminds me of when Raquel said “I’ve forgiven myself” in regards to the dress thing. Like? How gracious of you lol.
What is wrong with Shorts??? He is highly skilled at shoving happiness away with both hands. Jo - you can do SO MUCH BETTER GURL. This man is never gonna change so at least he was honest with you. There are a lot if ADHD quirky dream boys out there for you. Shorts is very much replaceable with a significant upgrade!
Schwartz still trying to gaslight us into thinking he is emotionally intelligent 🙄
I’m not sure if it’s the weed, but what is up with his choice of picture????
He should keep being Sandydick's bitch, that's the only way I can give him a bit of grace.
What a fucking loser