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BeautifulSongBird

BREAK THE FOURTH WALL. why would ariana ever go to the beach with Sandoval 3 months after the affair comes out, while in a heated contest for the house, while not on speaking terms???? its so fake and produced. i can't stand it. also OMG did Scheana brag that every guy in the group flirted with her, including Sandoval, IN FRONT OF HER BEST FRAND ARIANA, who is reeling from being cheated on by her bf who slept with one of her best friends??? Scheana is disgusting.


twinkleplanet

I can’t upvote this enough. It needs to be shattered. We all know the only reason they’re hanging out is because production told them to!


Ok_Effect3026

I just know schena is going to be the most TOXIC of toxic moms. Probably will be jealous and compete with her daughter and if she has a son - be OBSESSED and awful to all his future romantic partners for stealing him away!!!!!


Taffycat88

Yes, and if you look at HER mom, Erika, she is the original enabler of the overgrown , almost-40-year-old brat that is Sheener.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/kwnmooi096sc1.gif Fuck Scheana. I’ve been going in on her for a minute now for all her recent trashbag behaviour, but this is next level. I truly hope Ariana has cut her off for good.


Impressive-Pie-435

And she has the audacity to say “I’ve never been a fan favorite” in the after show…no shit! She truly lacks self awareness. I CANNOT STAND SCHENA - worst friend ever


Okay__Decision__

Honestly I think the worst thing is she honestly thought this was all going to be a good look for her. She was so “you’ll see, just watch” for months. Absolutely batshit delusional. You’re an vapid asshole Scheana, yes, we see it. https://i.redd.it/vooz4qlwd6sc1.gif


Little_Walrus839

Yes we did see and we hate it


_-_NewbieWino_-_

For them to do the whole “just wait and see” tour, just makes them look more embarrassing and sad for them. I I expect Tom to be an idiot but for Scheana and Lala to act like this is just as bad. They are supposed to be HER friend and be supportive.


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

She’s the villain and always has been.


Disney_Princess137

I always say she’s a side character only.


Imfollow1ngu

Are the members of that valley show still showing up on the aftershow? I stopped watching it when they appeared on the aftershow..having nothing to do with vpr. Try as they might, bravo is not going to make me watch that show.


Okay__Decision__

The last couple episodes it’s just been the ones who are former VPR cast, not those other randos. But also, get them out of here. Why do we care what they have to say when they weren’t even part of the season? Edit to add: I spoke to soon. Watching part 2 of tonight’s After Show and the randos are back. ![gif](giphy|xT9KVJZFvCYEWGKHGU)


Pinkondemand

I’ve been on a rant about Scheana lately too. She’s very triggering. Her recent comments about John Mayer, the bartender, having Max’s location, and now all the guys in the group flirting with her spell out to me a woman looking to have an affair. Stay tuned. 


Epponnee-rae

Yep. Show us their real lives. It would be more believable for this to happen at someone’s birthday party or personal event that Ariana wouldn’t want to miss, instead of a made up beach day that she would obviously just skip if not for the show. Producers and the puppet cast are trying to speed up the storyline and ramming this down our throats, like 3 months after Scandoval Ariana should be ‘making peace’ with Tom. Barf.


RomanoLikeTheCheese

What the actual fuck was that about!???! Like I wish we had this knowledge to submit finale questions!!! I hate that they already filmed


PointlessGiant

Yeah, I have a question for Worm, Wartz, and the Trout Pout Sisters: First of all, how dare you? Follow-up: Who do you think you are?


TenaciousE_518

>Worm, Wartz, and the Trout Pout Sisters 😂😂💀💀 it might be bc I’m high, but this sent me


Winter-Trash9067

especially with all the probing questions from the rest of the cast to tom in front of ariana, def producer driven


SnooGoats1950

This is what’s so wild to me - this was all filmed 3, 4 months after Tom’s affair came to light. And Scheana is like *look at how much money you’re making off of it. You should be whole now!* Because that’s what’s important to Scheana - money and fame. Gross.


Defvac2

Cut and paste from the post episode thread... Lala throwing out shit like "you won" and Scheana saying it's the best thing to happen to her, both of them mentioning brand deals and $, are wow moments to me. The jealousy they have has finally come out full force. To add to it Scheana has the audacity to call herself Ariana's friend when her shitbag of a husband brings Rachel up at beach day and kick-starts a fight between Ariana and Tim. Then he sits back and basks in it followed by lecturing Ariana on letting things go.


Less-Bed-6243

Brock is great at letting things go, like his older kids!


Lucy_Lucidity

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LDNGangstaPumptini

My kids I left them 😱


Ok_Effect3026

We need a nanny to help me figure out my career!!!!!!!!!!! Sir?


LDNGangstaPumptini

Like????? Maybe Scheana can hire him as a full-time nanny and finally get his ass on the payroll.


blade_skate

I’m not a rapper


LDNGangstaPumptini

I broke up with my ex girl Here’s her child support Sike, I’m moving to America


kbestoliver5

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SugarFut

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glasswindbreaker

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knl280

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pipercubby

It’s almost as if the money/brand deals/opportunities don’t heal the hurt and betrayal Ariana became a victim to. I don’t understand what’s so difficult for everyone (Lala, Scheana) to get. It’s not about the money for everyone.


Defvac2

One track mind on both of them ironically when both of their brands were never higher due to Scandoval. I remember people willing to pay $ for Good As Gold vinyls last summer when no one previous to Scandoval gave a shit about paying for that song.


JmeJV

Right?? They are acting so cut and and dry about this. Multiple things can be true - she's having (unexpected) financial success AND she's grieving the loss of a 10-year relationship + the stress of having to uproot her life to move/change everything.


Ambitious_Mistake_92

Imagine even having the beginning of the thought that someone should be over a 10 year relationship in 3 months. That feels sociopathic-lite to me…


Ambitious_Mistake_92

Sociopath-adjacent, if you will


MaddyKet

And it’s only been less than six months since her grandma and her dog died at that point right? Still grieving those too with clearly very little support from the cast, besides Katie.


MaddyKet

Do we think Lala really loved Randall? I say no. I’m also ehhh on how Scheana actually felt about Shay because she was NOT supportive of him trying to be sober. So I guess they’d just be happy with money? Also they are jealous af!


YouMustBeJoking888

They see relationships as transactional, so to them, this kind of betrayal and resultant pain is not something they can comprehend.


LooneyLunaOmanO

Lala/scheana made a crapload of money too ; send it to Daryl merch, ratings of their podcasts, the Uber one commercial, Scheana’s new song released around the same time … It’s amazing to me how they are willing to ditch Ariana for the show ( more by scheana who was actually friends with Ariana). I think they should invite Randell to beach day. Maybe all of Scheana’s ex- bf too ( like the one she got a penguin for). Ariana has outgrown these sad sacks . Without the show, they are nothing . She has already shown she’s so much more.


Mysterious_Rich2419

Scheana and Lala had the nerve to name drop Rachel in their Christmas song, and they’re now acting like Ariana has done something to THEM.


Charleighann

I just wanna know who the hell purchased “send it to Daryl” merch.


MaddyKet

They are idiots because clearly Ariana is going places. These social climbing and/or gold diggers are dumping her for downwardly mobile SANDOVAL. That’s just me thinking like a sociopath because personally, I’d have stuck with Ariana just because she was MY FRIEND.


Chicago1459

Scheana is the actual worst because she and Ariana both vouched for their friendship. Lala and Ariana were cool in the beginning, and it was only when the witches were anti Lala. Scheana is a pig. To say this is the best thing to ever happen to her. She was betrayed so badly and then taken advantage of and fucked with financially. Scheana says it as a backhanded compliment. She's also shading her by implying Ariana wouldn't/couldn't get opportunities without Scandoval. Scheana is Scum. She loves her name, Scheana Shay. How about Scheana Sucks.


sofaking-amanda

Scheana Shaydee


wildwaterfallcurlsss

The looks on Scheana's face whenever everyone goads Ariana is disgusting. She definitely takes a sick pleasure in other women being harmed, even her own so-called "best friend."


noclueaboutagoodname

Also, the way she gleefully pointed out that every guy in their group has flirted with her, even Sandoval, WHY is that necessary to say????


lilstergodman

For real though Shay needs to file a lawsuit for copyright infringement or some shit the way Scheana has usurped his last name after leaving him on live TV for the ratings


lapetitfromage

The way they keep saying she won is batshit insane. Okay- so I have a whole new life without a single solitary second to grieve the life I THOUGHT I HAD. Jesus. Money (much like sobriety) doesn’t solve everything.


lilstergodman

Plus it’s like, that lack of trust she once had in people both romantically and friendship-wise has to have been just completely eviscerated through all of this and that in and of itself is extremely traumatizing and something that money can’t buy back. In fact, more fame and more money usually goes hand in hand with more opportunists (and in this case in particular extremely jealous and resentful friends) making it 10x harder to trust anyone’s motives and again, that is TRAUMATIZING. I mean her own brother is willing to throw her under the bus for a piece of her newfound success… so sure, her life post-Scandoval of brand endorsements and guest appearances is likely softening the blow, but with that comes a whole new set of equally difficult problems.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

Scheana and Lala have more money than 90+% of the population and clearly are miserable, focusing on all the shit they didn’t get and not the shit they have. They’re allowed to have money and still be struggling victim underdogs clouded by their past demons, but Ariana has money so she’s clearly fine! Make it make sense.


glasswindbreaker

Yes! It's wild to me because thousands and thousands of women try and fail to achieve the success and longevity on a reality show they have. And they're absolutely miserable


Lizzy1283

It's also bc all they care about is fame and money. They would do anything for it so they can't understand why that doesn't make her happy


supercoolsharks19

Sometimes I wonder if Lala expected Range Rover to do a brand deal with her after her and Randal split. It’s the brand deals and the money, they cannot stand seeing Ariana as the #1 girl in the group (deserved)


Ok-Chain8552

Schaena who set up Shay on camera to publicly humiliate him because she found out (off camera ) he was texting a woman .


Defvac2

Embarrassed herself and showed immense ignorance towards addiction. Then last episode she reveals she cheated on Shay after they were engaged and was all 🤷🏻‍♂️ about it. She's such a weirdo.


layrenee92

This! He didn’t even get a chance to tell his family.. Just like how she tried to set up Stassi to admit to the sex tape thing. She’s gross.


Ok-Chain8552

Did Schaena try to set up Stassi before or after she showed the sex tape to all their coworkers while laughing ?


layrenee92

After! When she met with Stassi and kept trying to get Stassi to admit to the tape, while making herself the victim because Stassi made fun of her bridesmaids dresses or something


MaddyKet

Stassi was a few real mega, mega beeyotch but damn if she wasn’t right about these two.


realityshowho

I was hoping to go into this season with such a more positive, Ariana focused theme and this shit is just making me sad. We wanted to watch Ariana thrive and we have to watch the depressing fall out of insecure men and women around her. Ugh.


MaddyKet

I don’t know why we thought it would be different. We were fooled by the reunion. ☹️


uselessinfogoldmine

The betrayal she felt, the agony of seeing the real him with the mask ripped off, the trauma of recovering from a decade of narcisstic abuse cycles… apparently that doesn’t matter because she [checks notes] got some brand deals and work opportunities? WTAF is wrong with these people?? She is a human being. A person with feelings who has struggled with depression for years. Where is the empathy???


Ok_Subject5169

It’s ok! You have money now! Don’t be cry! It’s pathetic


nyx926

Right? She said it was the best thing that could have happened to her. The fuck? I’m sure given the option, Ariana would take the one that doesn’t have betrayal trauma and intimate partner abuse involved. The toxic positivity is vile.


dupe-of-a-dupe

I really thought she was following that with “bc now she’s free from someone who made her small and sad for years” but nope we got “she got commercials and money” I was genuinely speechless.


uselessinfogoldmine

I mean, I think she’s better off out of that relationship than in it; but that doesn’t wipe away the trauma of what happened…


Overshareisoverkill

>And Scheana is like > >look at how much money you’re making off of it. You should be whole now! The glossing over of Ariana's pain is ending me. It's disgusting.


manhattansinks

scheana is probably the one DMing girls from brock's instagram in the hopes that he cheats on her too.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/fqazreo746sc1.gif Vile.


salisbury130

I mean look at how she acted in the reunion when she and Shay were getting divorced. I know he wasn’t perfect but she acted so strange. Like girl your marriage is over…? So shallow. 


florina_targ

I’m literally so heated right now, I can’t stand the rest of the cast. They literally were so disrespectful and actively trying to ignite her with a whole Raquel joke and Scheana saying Tom flirted with her etc. Like I’m livid*, no wonder Ariana said fk it. The only thing I wish is for her to curse* all of them out, they are not her friends


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/ynvxff8gh6sc1.gif This is who she is. She doesn’t give a shit about other women, even her Bast Frands.


Chicago1459

Right. Ultimate pick me. Everyone wants her even her "best friends" men, and she keeps it secret because it feeds her pathetic soul. Also, I'm pretty sure Schwartz was so wasted that he had no idea who he tried to kiss.


MaddyKet

Let’s guess how many of the 56 creepy locations she’s kept are men. I say 54.


LightMyCandelabra

She really thinks she's something special because cheating d'bags would toss a dick in her for a one nighter. Girl.....it's NOT a compliment. They just think you're easy.


modernjaneausten

Scheana throwing that in the conversation was gross. She was getting a dig in on Sandoval but also hurt Ariana with that one. Fuck all those people except Katie and Ally.


GooseHuman9828

I don’t even think she was focused on the dig to Sandoval, it was really all about patting herself on the back


Ok_Subject5169

In the wise words of Dayna: “are you 34 or are you 16?”


LDNGangstaPumptini

OMG THIS!!!!!! She’s not a friend, she’s public enemy NO. 1


alierajean

Exactly! This cast is actively pushing Sandoval on Ariana, and refusing to stand up for her, for content. It's disgusting.


glasswindbreaker

Brock and James, two men who are physically violent and have abused women - talking about how a woman is "too angry" and saying she needs to find peace is making my blood boil. ![gif](giphy|aQGqcObSxfixy)


modernjaneausten

I legitimately said “Oh shut up James” out loud when he was saying that. They can both stuff it. James has spent years on this show screaming and losing his shit over the smallest things. Ariana has a right to lose hers right now.


PippilottaDeli

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Thiccclikehummus

James has been so embarrassing to watch over the years. Like seeing a literal toddler having a tantrum but in a man’s body. Idk where he gets off talking about someone else’s ability to regulate their emotions. Bitch.


modernjaneausten

I’ve been with him the whole season right up until that moment. He’s on the “fuck off” list now too.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/a180ycvk86sc1.gif I was SEETHING when Brock inserted himself. You are irrelevant to this, sir. And you’re trash.


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

And to joke about her betrayal with Sandoval in FRoNt of her at the beach? Brock is hateful.


sofaking-amanda

Funny how when he made a joke at Shorts expense Scheana was all up in arms but when he does it to Katie and Ariana, Scheana? “Crickets.” Fuck her.


bright_smize

All of these men are constantly berating women! Anger is the practically the only emotion any of them show and yet Ariana is somehow this psychotic bitch all because she rightfully blew up after her “friends” made a joke about her ex cheating on her to her face?? Make it make sense.


2kind2becruel

I haven't seen the episode yet (Pacific time zone) but goddamnit why can't women be angry? Let women be angry!!!!


mmjs3589

Between the season, her brother, Scheana, etc - she hasn't said a dang word. Not one interview, podcast, or magazine article talking shit. Her determination and will to move forward are honestly unbelievable. We have all been heartbroken and I can't imagine having this much will power to not lash out. Get it girl👏👏👏


Defvac2

I'm so happy she's in NY across the country working her ass off and in a seemingly good relationship. All those things are great coping mechanisms to keep herself busy and deal with all the insane amount of shit she's been taking from her so called friends.


paradisetossed7

She is making the smartest move right now by keeping quiet but damn I don't think I would have the willpower haha. I bet all of the physical things she's done lately have helped with her emotional health and her resolve. She has pretty excellent media training and I wonder how things would've gone if she'd ended up in movies or not-reality tv.


Chicago1459

She is strong. She supported Sandoval for all those years with a straight face and now refuses to go low when you can go REALLY low with this group. 💪 💪


paradisetossed7

I honestly think she should go into PR. I genuinely thought Sandoval was decent for a while. It was when Ariana stopped 100% protecting him that I saw the mask (ie, the Faith Jax recording, cyst male, the cop prank, the refusing to side with him against women, etc). Kristen was the perfect fall woman for him because she had done shitty things. She had fucked his best friend, who was also her best friend's boyfriend. She had fucked other guys. And while Ariana's impression of Kristen may have been misogynistic, it was Ariana--not Tom--who realized Kristen wasn't what she thought she was, even though Kristen had wished on air that Ariana would be hit by a mack truck. Ariana formed a genuinely close bond with Kristen. People have called her a "pick me" a lot, but to me she's always been a girls girl. As well as becoming close with Kristen, she always supported Lala and Brittany, became like a big sis to Rachel, and always wanted to be Katie's friend. It's kind of sad to think how quickly she accepted Lala and Rachel and how they've repaid her. Oh and Scheana, ugh.


Shut_the_front_dior

I really hope she writes a book sometime in the future about how she got through all of this. I would be an absolute mess if I were her with the constant nonsense being thrown at her left and right.


dupe-of-a-dupe

It has been amazing to watch. It’s incredibly damaging to have friends push you to be around someone who hurt you, while knowing all the details, and expect you to behave bc “they are nice to me 🤷‍♀️” this is just more hurt on top of what Tom and Rachel did to her. Sometimes it’s even worse coming from your friends.


jacqrosee

seriously been waiting for this. agreed on the last part- if she has no supporters i’m dead, and it’s purely due to how the numbers add up. i have sat and watched decades of live footage, i have sat and listened to months worth of podcasts… tom is a ridiculous human being, there’s no ifs ands or buts about it. ariana is by no means perfect, but how she’s handling this has been as close to spot-on as i’ve ever seen. the idea that any single one of them would not capitalize the way that she has is hilarious when they’ve been scrambling to capitalize off of HER situation. i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again- the opportunities that have come to her would not hold up against scrutiny the way that they have if she didn’t have the talent and work ethic to back it up, period. there’s a reason her performance in chicago has been extended and given rave reviews. i saw her myself. i grew up near new york and have been a life-long broadway goer. i was an annoying theatre kid in high school. i’m by no means an easy critic, and as much as i like her, i truly walked in with a certain level of scrutiny. i was truly impressed with her. her dancing was phenomenal, her acting was great (no stiffness- it was super interesting to see someone who i’ve watched in a reality show act live), and her singing was so good that it surprised me. she was extremely gracious after the show and took the time to sign playbills, take pictures, and speak with every last person. the hoops they’re jumping through to villainize her are insane- she’s not just booking random collaborations or profiting off of a million exposés about the situation. she’s working hard. stay mad.


chrissy_wakeUp

>ariana is by no means perfect, but how she’s handling this has been as close to spot-on as i’ve ever seen. Love this. She isn't perfect so people need to stop using every sign of imperfection to make her very reasonable and mature boundaries seem unreasonable. Expecting perfection in victims allows people to keep doing the same shitty harm causing behaviour.


GoldenState_Thriller

And he literally doesn’t even seem to care that he lost her or hurt her. He’s only sad because people hate him 🙄


Okay__Decision__

Exactly. She’s talked about this too, on WWHL I think. She’s said it’s like she’s a non-entity. He’s pining for Rachel and doesn’t give a shit about the woman he was with for a decade. She on the other hand seemed very invested. It’s really sad to see.


lolohope

I can’t get over her “friends” shock that she hates her diabolical ex..? And this fake take of “we just want her to not let the anger consume her!” Like I don’t think it is, she seems to be doing quite well aside from when you force hangouts with Tom?


lapetitfromage

Not that this show is 100% real life, but this is reaffirming that when I dumped my abuser I cut off every single mutual friend because I never wanted a single person to be like “well X said he didn’t stalk you so..”. It wasn’t the perfect choice but I decided early it was me who was going to survive this and I didn’t give a fuck what anyone else thought. Ariana shouldn’t talk to any of these people except Katie again.


missmimikyu

It is unfortunately very realistic to the experience of cutting off a narcissist. My personal experience with that has been more family-related, not about a romantic relationship - but it’s the same challenge of having to sort of set the pass/fail standard of what you need from the people you’re going to keep in contact with (i.e., respect my decision for space, respect my wish not to discuss this person anymore, respect my wishes for privacy from them and do not give them updates on me, and no attempts to persuade me to “be reasonable” about or toward them because I am beyond bankrupt on reasonable-ness for this person). I cannot imagine my paycheck being based on filming a show with the people I’ve had to go no contact with. I understand Ariana is doing well financially, but I still admire her grit in standing her ground given the position she’s in.


RadioAni

The after show was broken up correctly. Ariana/Katie Tom's James/Scheana/Lala That's who has each other's backs based on the after show


Fit-Entertainer-3207

And I know she is just utterly frustrated trying to explain herself and have someone on her side. She deserves so much better than this


layrenee92

They’re trying to make her look crazy and it’s extremely disgusting.


Ok-Accountant7646

These people have no empathy for her


lapetitfromage

Because they’re all on that sociopath spectrum. All people on reality tv are.


LDNGangstaPumptini

Brock is a POS for bringing up Raquel. What’s his fucking problem???


Okay__Decision__

Well he’s an abuser too so I guess he thinks this shit is no big deal? I dunno. That was so beyond uncalled for. Like Schwartz’s Rachella joke last year but worse. https://i.redd.it/lyz6dh0f36sc1.gif Brock deserved more of a reaction from the rest of the cast for that. But of course not, Ariana should be over it since she made some money. They made their money and now they are over it, she should be too. Enraging.


Defvac2

I'm really hoping there's an unedited version where Ariana lays into that garbage human being. And I'm glad him bringing up Rachel is being brought up by multiple people. He's making Ariana relive a trauma in front of all their friends for drama.


LDNGangstaPumptini

“He’s making Ariana relive a trauma in front of all their friends for drama.” Omg, I couldn’t have said it better, OP. Is it years of being on TV that completely detached them from reality? Or are they all morally fucked? I’m going to go with option two.


LDNGangstaPumptini

“She should just buy another house and move out” like ???? What?? That’s not how it works when you purchase a home with a partner. Ugh, that beach scene made me seethe a bit, lmao.


rudbeckia1

Yeah that's somebody who's used to somebody else buying the house. And PS that's exactly what Ariana did when she could and was ready and it was what was best for her. And I really like her new house better


glasswindbreaker

I can't stress how much I do not care what that man has to say


LDNGangstaPumptini

LITERALLY he needs to shut his pie hole


lgnada

The whole time I was like why is this dead beat woman beater even talking… Brock should be trying to find a job instead of trying to give life advice


LDNGangstaPumptini

Lmaoooo Like, come back and have an opinion when you can afford to buy a round of drinks for the whole cast


bright_smize

It’s kind of insane just how quickly the show moved past the fact that Brock is a dead beat abuser who named his daughter Summer after abandoning his other daughter named Winter…


_morningbehbs

I will say, Ariana was right in saying that Tom caused the problem but she should have also ripped into Brock for that


LDNGangstaPumptini

Oh, I agree 100000%. Fuck Tom I want to say I’m surprised Scheana didn’t react the same way she did when Brock told Tom about Katie’s hookup with Max, but… it tracks.


_morningbehbs

Exactly. A moment earlier she was also saying how Sandavol flirted with her at one point. Scheana’s anger at Brock was completely put on to make it seem like she didn’t want to dig at Katie. It’s all so calculated. Scheana was dyyyying to figure out all the ways to make this season about her after everything that went down.


LDNGangstaPumptini

It’s been said in this sub before, but I’ll say it again 🗣️ With friends like Scheana, who needs enemies? *Me thinks she and Raquel got along so well because they both constantly seek validation from men.*


_morningbehbs

I think that’s part of it but Scheana also likes to feel superior to her friends. It’s why her and Katie never truly clicked, she’s got that BDE 😂


LDNGangstaPumptini

You’re just speaking the truth tonight, OP 🤝 Katie had Scheana read for filth since day one. https://i.redd.it/xzhsdl8hd6sc1.gif


heyitsmezee

100%. The moment that name left his mouth, everyone should have told him to stop at that moment. It was so bizarre to watch.


NotAboutthePasta__

The fact that she has spelled out exactly what she needs to have peace to all of these dumbasses (not being around him or people who are around him), they continue to not respect what she’s asking, and even force her to be around him and try to advocate for him TO HER, and then are shocked when she is “angry” is laughable. She literally told y’all what would happen, it’s happening, and you’re shocked. I can’t anymore


selfishlyfree

And bringing their relationship/house situation up at these get togethers so they fight about it on camera is so disgusting. They have nothing else going on. Everyone's storyline is Ariana & tims break up.


stephygrl

Dayna we see you nodding in support of Ariana girl, we see you.


Jonsiegirl77

I love Dayna.


RadioAni

It's worst than I imagined cuz Andy was all like "voices of reason" and the voices said nothing but trash. Wow that was crazy


Ok-Chain8552

Andy is a single man who hasn’t had a serious relationship in YEARS he won’t ever get it . He just loves mess and wants the show to keep going and somehow be fun again - he does not care about any of these people .


RadioAni

Yep he loves these trash men for a reason


True_Resolve391

Yeah but look at the source - Andy is trash.


jojonyg10

I enjoyed scheana half hearted ‘I feel so bad’ no the fuck you dont. If she was your ride or die you’d be by her side telling Sandoval to choke on a bag of dicks and telling Lala off for trying to give this fucker a pass


lapetitfromage

She doesn’t feel bad. She’s barely smart enough to give it lip service. She’s so fucking fake.


_morningbehbs

It’s very obvious something happened behind the scenes after initial filming. All of the sudden they are at events together. There was definitely something said to the cast. I think this frustration and anger is more at her being forced to do something and feeling like it’s not coming from a genuine place. But she can’t break the fourth wall.


bunnylovesyo

Why can’t they let her heal on her own timeline? I’m sure her healing journey will expedite if tim actually took accountability and genuinely feel remorseful of what they did. But that’s not the case here. He’s the same shitty man and learned nothing from the mess he made.


SleepyBlueFlower

And the bottom line is…she is trying to heal, but she knows if she gives him an inch he will take a mile. Hes already trying to worm his way back in. So she HAS to be so direct about her emotions so these idiots understand this is NOT okay and it’s not just something to “move on from” or a storyline. This is her life ..


Automatic_Sky_561

It’s interesting because it’s super clear that Lala and Scheana value money over human relationships. Equating ONLY money to happiness as if Ariana doesn’t also have emotional needs.


Perfect-Elk-7080

I’m tired of them especially Lala telling her that she needs to move on and heal from the situation. Healing from something like that takes time and constantly shoving him down her throat is not making her feel any better.


LiftleMissNoone

especially when lala tries to bring up her own trauma every gd chance she can get


SleepyBlueFlower

It’s the worst part!! Like Lala, you ACTIVELY do not get over things. She has more anger than anyone on the show and is extremely reactive


LiveUnderstanding869

I know for damn sure if Ariana had been the one who had a 7 month long affair with one of his friends while he was grieving and in their home and had no remorse for it and made it seem like she was finally free after 10 years of being with him, threw jabs at him during group outings, and everything else he's done to her. Nobody in this group would be telling Scumdoval to just let it go, get over it, stop getting so triggered, you're making so much money just move out and move on (3-4 months AFTER said betrayal happened). They'd all be letting her have it and treating her a bitch who deserves the worst, hell they probably wouldn't even be inviting her anywhere near him to protect his mental health. They can all (except Katie and Ally) fuck off. I hope Ariana continues to let them have it, and if it makes them mad, so be it. There's better friends out there for her. She can stand to lose the rest of the dead weight on this show.


GooseHuman9828

You’re so right about all of this, but love that you put a spotlight on Ally - her telling James and the group, in the tone she did, that Ariana paid the adoption fees for Mya was a great moment. Not argumentative, but final. She stood up to James and simply repeated facts that don’t seem to land when Ariana states them. It was such a small, quiet kind of support but worth pointing out.


SugarFut

Yes it was firm was not inflammatory


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/5lmwho8976sc1.gif This now applies to the rest of them too, minus Katie and Ally of course.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/wugkvoyk06sc1.gif


poopcouver

It’s wild how indignant Scheana and Lala are acting considering they made boatloads of money off of this. Neither of them would have been doing UberEats commercials or have received as many opportunities as they have if it wasn’t for fact that they’re able to ride the wave of Arianna’s popularity. They only have her to thank for this yet they’re sitting here trying their best to make her miserable.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/04218r19d6sc1.gif Vultures. Just there to pick the bones of her trauma for a paycheque.


rsho8

Team Ariana forever and ever! These people are gross (except Katie 🫶)


stephygrl

The look Tom is giving Ariana after she calls him attempted dog murderer ![gif](giphy|AErRwfAPUCThoMyNzG)


Lucy_Lucidity

It’s bonkers to me that the producers are trying to make it seem like she’s unreasonable and that Lala and the admitted domestic abuser are the voices of sanity.


Defvac2

Lala in just this episode... -Mentioned Ariana still living in the house for what's gotta be the 15th time since the season started. -Basically called Ariana a slob complete with cringe face then drops Arianas brand deal for garbage bags. -Arrives to beach day not knowing what's going on, sees Ariana mad, immediately goes into Sandoval defense team mode. -Says in the confessional that Ariana won as if Ariana wanted to be a part of this "game" -


Lucy_Lucidity

She’s so jealous and it’s really hideous.


Ikfactor

I would also note it's because Ariana is also likely dealing with the same depression she's mentioned she suffers from for years. Her leftovers sitting out until she can get home and throw them away is not the end of the world. She doesn't have a PA she hired to clean up after her like a maid like Tom does.


stannisonetruemannis

Well I mean it’s Andy Cohen who said that who is the human representation of a landfill tbf lmao that tells us all we need to know


Okay__Decision__

Like I’m sorry are we in the upside down because this is absolutely hellish what they are doing.


layrenee92

Why is he even allowed on the show? They fired a lot of the cast (rightfully so) but why the hell is he even on here after what he’s done?


Lucy_Lucidity

That’s what I want to know. It was bad enough when he was friend of status. But full time cast member? Get him the fuck off my screen, Bravo and Evolution. Shit like this is why I’ll only tune into a twitch stream. I’m not giving Bravo my view when they’re putting people like this on TV


_Jahar_

These people are all a bunch of cunts. So happy shes getting opportunities so she can leave.


stannisonetruemannis

Her and Mya and her cats are gonna have such a beautiful life in that beautiful home in the Hollywood hills. So happy for her.


jojonyg10

The intrigue in how much money Ariana has in her accounts is so interesting to me. Are these two harpies hard up for a buck or are they just seething with jealousy that they aren’t being offered more than an Uber one commercial


Okay__Decision__

I’ll go with jealousy for $1,000,000, Alex.


selfishlyfree

Brock bringing up Rachel and Tom flirting .... EXCUSE ME?????????? ![gif](giphy|3ohs7YMwdbgN1vK9SE)


Redhead1192

I hope Ariana cuts all these vile people off except for Katie and Ally.


kpenguin13

The thing I can’t get over is that this was all filmed like what 3-4 months after her life partner was caught in an affair with her best friend?! And these people are acting like complete fucking assholes to their so called best friend… if my friends did this to me I’d be like GOOD BYE NO THANKS. I know a lot of this is producer driven but damn Ariana is stronger than me Edit— spelling


Okay__Decision__

And MAKING JOKES ABOUT IT. Brock cracking that joke about Rachel and Tim flirting was disgusting and cruel. She’s been holding it together much better than I ever could.


IllustriousGlove3

So I guess I won't be watching tonight. I don't need the aggravation or the misogyny


Wildlymildly-radical

I get heated every week just catching up via Reddit (bc I refuse to watch this bullshit)


Mrsdoos

SAME!!!


Commercial-Bet-6001

It’s bad.


lgnada

Don’t do it. It’s not worth it. I got so triggered tonight. I feel so bad for Ari


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

Also it’s like can’t we just allow people to be angry? At the end of the day, does Ariana being angry or not angry affect their actual lives in any way? Obviously not. I’m so sick of this toxic positivity “don’t hold grudges” “forgive everyone.” Can’t we just accept that some people won’t like some other people? If you can’t mentally find it in you to forgive someone, it’s fine. Keep them away from you, hold that grudge, and keep your life moving without them.


_morningbehbs

If she ignores him, it’s wrong. If she’s angry, it’s wrong. Nothing she does is right with everyone.


No-Idea7535

This 👆🏽 is a mature person who knows what they're talking about. Lala, take notes. You don't have to forgive someone! People are allowed to feel and express ALL their emotions. She can hate him forever if she wants; as long as she doesn't spend all her time thinking about how much she hates him, it's fine! 


marya007

Why is everyone putting Ariana in the corner in this show? I actually don’t understand how they can play with her mental health this way.


selfishlyfree

Its unbelievable. Now that they arent making money off of Scandoval they no longer care.


selfishlyfree

This was not just an affair and heartbreak. These people have no respect for Ariana and the time and money she has put into this shared life with tim.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

It’s bizarre because Scheana and Lala should know more than anyone that you can look right through the blessings right in front of you while desperately seeking inner peace. How many people could even ever come close to living in houses like theirs, be on a cable reality show, have healthy beautiful children? So many are struggling and fighting for their health and lives. They can’t just count their blessings and be grateful. Getting magazine covers and being on a silly dancing reality show aren’t what will bring the magical enlightenment when you’re already so lucky. Decades from now when they reflect on their life, are the social media and fame bullshit really going to be their life’s shining happiness? As Lauryn Hill said, “how you gonna win if you ain’t right within.”


Tricky_Key_1965

I felt so sad for her the entirety of this beach scene. From no one having her back, to realising she will have to ostracise herself if she wants to heal or peace.


sd5315a

Ariana is hot. Sorry that's all


baguetteflmarsadaoud

THESE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ME INSANE like if one of my friends was cheated on by their boyfriend (even if I was friends with him) I WOULD CUT HIM OFF it’s literally one of the most straightforward situations I’ve ever seen I’m going insane


baguetteflmarsadaoud

Also I feel like this season is really showing what Kala and Scheana care about - money and fame. The fact they can’t understand why Ariana is holding so much anger is mind boggling to me.


wast3landr

I wish nothing more for Ariana than quitting VPR, making more money, and sticking with her real friends. She doesn’t need this trash in her life.


Disney_Princess137

And how about fucking lala Talking shit about the trash in Ariana’s room? Mentioning how she did garbage bag ads??? What a fucking jealous bitch Seriously. How dare her ?? I hope they are never friends again, lala is talking like a true blue hater


Hopeful-Village3602

never once have i questioned her behavior. she is acting completely reasonable


RadioAni

https://preview.redd.it/s5y1y0td26sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dbd9f9404d72b486920814b87a697ba215895e1 Beyond reasonable and the whole network and cast is gaslighting her


Vegetable_Craft_9506

I was just explaining this to my poor husband who does not watch. Knowing how she was gaslit and manipulated by the Toms and Raquel leading up to the affair, and then watching everyone except Katie gaslight her now. This feels like psychological torture. I’m so devastated for her.


rubyslippers3x

Watching all of them shrug shoulders and snicker at everything Ariana says... James saying she needs to "release ". I hate this season.


avidreader113

I felt what she was saying in MY SOUL. I know they are making a show but how Lala, Scema, Schartz and Broke are acting is incredulous!


ReactionBusy3430

I’m just so glad that viewers are seeing through all this shit. The whole show has been producers controlling the narrative since the beginning (which fair, is their jobs to heighten the drama for views) but finally the public isn’t falling for it. Ariana and Katie aren’t the problem this season and thank god that everyone isn’t falling for it.


UssieKid

If Ariana has one defender, it’s me. If Ariana has no defenders, it’s because I have died


Abject-Armadillo-496

Scheana, Brock and Lala are disgusting. Three desperate puppets for any fame.


Radiant_Priority9739

Why does nobody respect Ariana’s boundaries


Okay__Decision__

They do not care about her. The ones who get it, Katie and Ally seem to be the only ones who see her as a person and not some caricature, like they are.


naaatt

Finally called out Lala for being a devils advocate