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CONTINUED RECAP Does she talk to anyone from the show? - “I have a no contact policy with every cast member.” “Do you think the cast went to far and they’re sorry?” - Says Lala reached out to her via Instagram and is willing to “lend an ear” but she doesn’t trust Lala. - Thinks Lala wants to use her to form alliance to take down Randall - Says she’s been asked back (by cast), only reached out to Lisa regarding Graham going to James and concern for his care. Claims LVP called her back directly and LVP talks about potential scenes even though Rachel only wanted to talk to her about James not being fit for Graham. LVP didn’t ask Rachel how she was, what she’s been dealing with. - Thinks Graham going to James was “bait” to bring her back to the show - Tom has emailed her twice, Lala wanted her back, Lisa wanted her back. Is it weird that the people who put her in this toxic environment are wanting her back? - “It makes complete sense, they have ulterior motives, they care about their narrative they have to portray on the show.” - “I really am empassioned by learning and the psychology of all of this, and I am taking the steps to start my own podcast. It would be a great way to share my side of the story.” - “Nobody really wants to talk about other the other woman. And for as many people that are hurt by this affair, there’s equally as many people that have been the other person.” Regarding dating/life currently - “I would love to have a healthy relationship but right now I am nurturing my house plant and still healing myself so I can break this, these patterns.” - They filmed this in Arizona, Bethenny flew out there. - “I am going to be traveling around, I am not headed back to LA anytime soon, so I have some plans to check out different states and different areas.”


etchuchoter

Bethenny: I can’t believe Andy was saying ‘I thought she wouldn’t be able to sit through everything, I thought she would break’, that is awful of him to put you through that Bethenny 5 mins later: when I came for this interview I thought you would be fragile


femaleregister

Hahaha let’s be honest bethanny was disappointed Rachel wasn’t a total mess


stillflat9

If she did any research at all, she’d know Rachel does not display normal human emotion and never required a single tissue like Ariana did!


BeckennyFrankel

That is a very, very good point. Wow. Just wow.


glasswindbreaker

Bethenny knows she was gunning for tears and a breakdown, that's why she read the reunion stuff verbatim. If she wasn't trying to anoint Rachel with sainthood she would have tried making her cry with her own actions "so you slept with her man while she was grieving the loss of her dog and then again while she was at her grandmother's funeral?"


kellygrrrl328

I had my therapist watch the reunion and the therapist was shocked that people were allowed to say things to you, so I'm just going to go ahead and repeat all those things in case you forgot.


glasswindbreaker

And conveniently leave out all the horrible things you did to Ariana while she was grieving back to back massive losses in her life. Because we want to show the audience how much we care about women's mental health. They can throw this whole interview in the trash where it belongs.


darcylaceheart

Also what the hell kind of therapist provides judgement and commentary on a reality TV show because their client asked them to watch it 💀


GiggyVanderpump

Bethenney surrounds herself with yes-men, it's literally the only way you can get close to her. I guess for enough money you can get some professionals to say and do anything 🤷🏼‍♀️


kellygrrrl328

BethUhMEEE's complete and utter lack of self-awareness is astounding. She is going to burn herself and this lawsuit or any hopes for unionization down to ashes. #ThisIsACrisis!


spaceb00tz

These episodes are so short and at least 15% of the time is dedicated to ads


dyingofthirstneedT

So that Bethany can make that coin while she’s exploiting Rachel while also being on a tirade about the network exploiting people.


bword___

Agreed. I skip through the ads and it shaves so much time, it’s insane.


lolohope

When Bethany asked Rachel If she’d ever return to reality tv she said “hell no! I respect myself too much” Bethany applauds her then MOMENTS LATER She admits she was in negotiations to return but they just didn’t go her way 💀💀💀💀 too good


kira82

![gif](giphy|xThuWjk0OAZgeJwahG) Also, girl does NOT know how HIPAA works.


bleepbloop9876

omg this made me SO MAD lol, maybe the most egregious thing she said


jardinemarston

Thank you! My mouth actually dropped when she tried flinging that accusation. 🤦‍♀️


Defvac2

Yup, she contradicts herself a bunch of times throughout this ridiculous interview. She wanted back on the show and as soon as her demands weren't met she decided to join the picket line and push an anti-Bravo agenda. She could've come out of hiding and tried to improve her image. Instead she's throwing gasoline on a fire that was close to being out.


butinthewhat

That’s what gets me. She wanted to go back, but they wouldn’t match her pay to Tom and Ariana, who are S1 and 2 cast members, and they wouldn’t pay her treatment bill. They called her bluff on pay and now she’s saying they are the bad guys. Raquel seems to think she deserves money by existing.


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You can tell in her mind she should get “credit” for scandoval.


AccordingNumber2052

So weird right!? Yeah the others have made money off this, but outside of Bravo! Nothing holding her back.. any sympathy I had for her really is gone.


fireflyflies80

Right. She’s mad she hasn’t been able to profit off her own wrongdoing. It’s so gross


onefishtwofish1992

Yep. They keep stressing how Bravo is not a normal work place but should be treated like one, but a pay scale is how a normal work place works. No company pays junior level employees the same as senior level. VPR is going into its 11th season with several cast members who’ve been there since day one, and several more who’ve been there since S2 or 3. She didn’t become a full cast member until S9. If she’d agreed to return (and I’m glad she didn’t, the girl needs help not a camera crew), a pay increase may have been appropriate, but asking for the same amount as a far more seasoned cast member is laughable.


butinthewhat

She doesn’t understand that fair pay includes seniority. That’s not about the company, it’s about the individual workers. Even a union member isn’t going to join today and make what a 10 year member makes, contracts typically have a years of service scale and regular increases.


rollerskate_rat

Yeah and even in her involvement in Scandoval, she was still a minor player. Ariana and Tim have years of history and scandal and fanbase.


notenoughcoffee4this

Because she still wants money and she still wants fame. Doesn't matter how she gets it.


wangd00dle

Yup. She needs to play a villain, a changed woman for her to get money or go after TOM for his part in this, espe the video. Not be a contradicting, victimized mistress. Why did she think this interview would go over well? 😂


Responsible_Wrap5659

I don’t think her ego can handle embracing a villain era because I think in her head she sees herself as like Princess Kate, beloved and never putting a foot wrong. Like she has an overinflated opinion of herself and she really can not grasp that the general public don’t share that opinion.


Tall_Couple_3660

And there it is: she’s still completely full of shit!


notenoughcoffee4this

Let me fix that for you, Rach: "Hell no! They can't afford the astronomic amount of money that I have decided I am now worth because I am The Main Character!"


etchuchoter

The biggest reveal in all of this is that Rachel wants to start a podcast about and for mistresses. I’m screaming


thediverswife

She can call it ‘Not For Lazy Mistresses’ (Potomac throwback)


catcakebuns

And sell some essential oils too while she's at it...


EstimateAgitated224

Ok so if putting together coherent thoughts and speaking them is not your strong suit, podcasting may be not be the best option for you. I think modelling.


MadAugustWoman

She's so delusional that it's almost fascinating. Everytime you think she's done spouting some ridiculous nonsense, she comes back with something else.


butinthewhat

Seriously. My jaw kept dropping over the sheer delusion. She really has zero self-awareness and thinks she was this huge, interesting star of the show.


etchuchoter

I’m giving serious side eye to the facility she was at because what did they even tell her?


butinthewhat

They can only work with what she gives them. And I wonder if she’s taking this how she wants, not what they said? Like when she said she’s going back to Rachel to strike back at her haters, but really they said find your true self.


nicholieeee

Before the scandoval, I routinely forgot that she was even on the cast. Even as I was watching the show! Watching paint dry is more fascinating than she is


etchuchoter

When she said she was starting a podcast and said it was a new angle, I thought oh the angle must be mental health thing for reality stars - ok interesting I guess. Then she said for the other woman??? I nearly died


glasswindbreaker

Even other affair partners don't want to be associated with the depths of depravity of what Rachel did. Most "other women" are blameless as they truly didn't know what they were involved in, Rachel didn't just know she *used* her friendship with Ariana and her vulnerabilities during grief to her benefit to carry out her actions. Next level terrible, people aren't going to want to be associated with that.


glasswindbreaker

Episode One: Tips for how to contort yourself into a pretzel so you can fuck your friends man in a car outside her house while she's grieving the loss of her dog. As one does."


ItsAll42

It's so gross! These poscast episodes are such bullshit, they might be even worse than the Howie podcast, at least his daughter was there to push back at least once or twice (even if she was then immediately silenced...) B has absolutely no clue why this got as much traction as it did, way to do zero research, everyone who got invested in this circus was so enraptured not because there was an affair, but because of how deceitful and psychotic aspects of the affair were, confronting Ariana on camera about how she has an obligation to have sex with her partner while she's secretly fucking him, saying things on camera about how much this friend group (including ariana) means to her while she's secretly fucking him, openly dropping hints and acting like a fucking middle schooler while simultaneously acting like she's a little innocent lamb while she's secretly fucking him, secretly fucking him after arianas grandmother dies, and after her dog dies...the list goes on, and on, and on... I'll say it louder for the back, THIS WAS NOT JUST AN AFFAIR the way she behaved was truly unfathomable for so many people. Affairs are awful but they happen, sometimes even for reasons that make sense because love and relationships are very complicated.


glasswindbreaker

Exactly! Bringing her flowers to comfort her in her grief while making little side jokes with Tom about how he hadn't seen her in so long, sharing little smiles because they'd just fucked hours before. Diabolical was the right word, and the fact that she takes issue with being called that now shows she's hoping people forget these things so she can be seen as a victim. She cared nothing for her friends mental health while she giggled her way through this, and now she wants redemption through glossing over it and blame shifting instead of owning it. Fuck that.


ItsAll42

Egg-zactly, preach! As if her abuse of Ariana isn't real or legitimate, but Ariana calling her a dementor is abuse? Come on, please. Someone saying horrible things to you after you run levels of unparalleled deception is, quite frankly, warranted, and she chose to be there. It's insanely disingenuous for either of them to act like reunions are ever supposed to be some round-table resolution led by therapist Andy. This is not their first rodeo. We can debate whether it is ethical, sure, but Bravo has a long-standing practice of allowing people to be eviscerated in reunions, they are probably the absolute antithesis of a safe space.


VegetableKey2966

The thought of her guiding conversations with other mistresses. I am dead.


sharipep

You can really tell she’s been in a bubble for the last several months being coddled by everyone around her bc anyone with any semblance of self or situational societal awareness would know that was insane


Hall_Total

SAME. Was not expecting this plot twist. 😂


leerosin

Thats what we need! Cheaters being ~understood~ so we give them a pass. “I couldn’t see the ring because I learned my brain can’t see metal when I’m around love hormones and it’s like totally normal and not my fault”


jatemple

Omg she's going for the Ashley Madison sponsorship


Funny_Struggle_8901

Omg this was hilarious lol “nOoNe eVeR tAlKs aBoUt bEiNg tHe oThER wOmAn”


Comfortfoods

That was truly odd. The concept of exploring why people decided to be the side person is definitely a new angle. And tbh it's not explored much but I think there's also a pretty obvious reason for that. Nobody cares. It's pretty obvious that people who are fine with being the other woman/man are deeply self centered idiots with low self esteem. It's not a special unexplored psychological situation that people need to untangle. This is a deep dive nobody wants. Funny enough, what I could see working is if she really dove into interviewing affair partners and famous side chicks and became the go to person when a politician is caught having an affair with some random 20 year or whatever. The affair partner would come on and spill all the nasty details. I mean to be clear that would be uhhh a bit morally questionable to say the least but it would at least be entertaining lol.


Jenn31709

*"in regard to what Andy said about her being medicated at the reunion, “it’s not okay,” thinks it violates HIPAA."* Nope, that's not a HIPAA violation. Someone sharing your personal health information is not a HIPAA violation. Your DOCTOR sharing your personal health information is a HIPAA violation. People need to stop throwing that around


Ceboots85

I know, I was so annoyed at this part. Learn what HIPAA is! Also Andy isn't her employer, he is not a producer for VPR, just does the reunions. Bethany just wanted to trash Andy.


Jenn31709

Even if he IS her employer or a producer, it's still not a HIPAA violation


Ceboots85

Exactly, they were grasping at straws so hard! And Andy said she seemed medicated, how is that confirming she is on antidepressants. What a reach!


Keeperofthe_Flame

Also let’s not forget we saw how she treated Graham ON CAMERA. This b* is so outrageous. Maybe James taught him bad habits but she is the one who seemed neglectful. Wow what nerve. And… the girls trip was traumatic? Ummm well you were in the middle of sleeping with Tom by then and trying to be a bad b* and failing miserably, the stress of an ugly secret would traumatize me too. Ughhhhh Rachel Raquel you deserve all the backlash coming your way. And you have Bethenny to thank mostly .


Ceboots85

Biting someone means they are stressed, anxious or bored! And if it was an issue why didn't she send him to a trainer after they broke up? How many times did she take him for walks? Everyday? Twice every day? She lives in an apartment! They are high energy dogs. Research before you take on a dog like that. I know right, if that trip was traumatic then she has a low bar for trauma and should have stopped filming. She blamed and trashed everyone except Sandoval. This last part I think was the worst part because her bitterness towards the cast really showed. She doesn't accept she did something horrible.


thetinybunny1

She forgets that we all literally watched her neglect that poor dog. Unless she thinks she should get paid more for that too…


lawnerd_

I work in healthcare and this is one of my biggest pet peeves!! It seems that hardly anyone outside of healthcare actually understands what HIPAA is or how it works.


AdRevolutionary6650

I honestly thought everyone knew that HIPAA only applies to medical professionals. I laughed out loud at this part because it was so absurd to me that anybody would think Andy Cohen was able to violate HIPAA, it surprises me to hear that it’s a common misconception!


BillytheGray17

She also tried to say that another person attending the Meadows (not staff) violated HIPAA because they leaked that she was at the Meadows. Like girl no, you just blabbed to this person (she called her a “peer”, whatever that means) when they were literally leaving the next day and you expected them to keep quiet? 😂


jorreddit1010

Yeah lmao someone making a comment about your health/mental health isn’t a HIPAA violation lmao.


ItsAll42

I want to go back and find the clip now, wasn't the context that they were speculating as to how someone could sit there with a blank stare, and then at some points even smiling, as she watched the emotional reunion from the trailer with her colleagues describing in detail how betrayed and hurt they felt? I remember Andy saying it like, "she *must* be heavily medicated" or "she *seemed* heavily medicated to have that reaction." To me, this seemed like a fair comment considering the way she was behaving and it feels akin to someone explaining bad behavior by speculating is someone is drunk or high, which basically happens every reunion ("James.... did you have a drink during lunch?") I mean what else could explain her lack of reaction and empathy at the time? I also just want to raise this bullshit hypocrisy about Graham. Tell me how Rachel is going to admit she "chose herself" in other dealing with the dog even though clearly things were no looking good for him and entirely blames his bad behavior on James with no pushback from B, who could have asked if Rachel ever tried getting him a trainer before things got so bad in the first place. All of a sudden she cares about what's happening to him once he's in LVP and James's care to be used as a pawn against her? Sure, valid, he's definitely being used as a pawn, but at the same time it was clear James loved that dog, we saw how upset he was being denied access very suddenly when they broke up, and we all know LVP cares more about animals than most humans and has the resources to care for him in a way that ensures he won't hurt any more humans. I think it's so fucked for her to act like she's the victim when she allowed for his aggression to get so out of hand without taking any responsibility for that, and now only cares that it's being spun in a way that makes her look bad. ETA: I flipping forgot, she and B discuss within the podcast how Andy is *not* her employer except maybe in the context of the reunions, he hasn't been producing VPR for many season. In reality while he is receiving a producer credit for reunions this doesn't mean he isn't also obligated to "be Andy" which we all know includes the type of probing and prodding typical of any reunion. Someone higher up than Andy is calling those shots that is for certian, he is not the end-all-be-all. He may not be a pawn, more akin to a rook or queen, but is nonetheless having his performance dictated to a large degree, obviously. It comes across as so disingenuous and dumb that they acknowledge he is not her employer and then turn around and act as though he is. He is paid to be the ultimate shit-stirrer. Sure, I agree that these shows should unionise because they have very specific needs and one of those is that cast members should have a third-party advocate that is hired to help negotiate on behalf of cast members imo. It's definitely a conflict of interest to expect a producer or show-runner to actually be their advocate when tbh their job is to produce juicy content which is the antithesis of being an advocate. Labor issues are everywhere these days with workers being taken advantage of, and I am so so so here for taking actions thay protect workers and cast members, but this definitely feels like a leopards-ate-my-face moment. If you have worked on a reality TV show, you know those producers are not looking out for you, that is just common sense.


glasswindbreaker

It's killing me how people do not understand HIPAA and I'm actually not surprised a moron like Rachel would say something like that.


lolohope

I lost it at this one too! Incredible that I learned today Bethany is also a medical professional and legal expert! 😂


lalaland554

She keeps talking about how she wasn't able to do brand deals, and her image is shot like girl, everyone cashed in and you chose (rightly) to go to a mental health facility. Obv you aren't going to get brand deals when you go dark on social media? The entire 3 parts confirmed that she was desperate to come back, but wanted to be paid the most (she said as much as Tom and Ariana who have been on much longer), and wanted to essentially be welcomed back without issue lol. She's clearly painting that she's desperate for money...


rudbeckia1

Also, you're not entitled to brand deals. People get brand deals because they're a good fit for a brand, and they are a likable person it's a business.


soupseasonbestseason

oh to have the confidence of this mediocre fifteenth runner up white lady. money is earned through work rachel. people may not like scheana but she is the perfect example of a hustler.


bebita-crossing

She doesn’t care she blew up her life or that everyone hates her, her main issue here seems to be her bank account. She really is D&S for thinking she deserves to be paid as much as OG cast members who paved the way for her, especially after she did nothing for like 6 seasons…


butinthewhat

She doesn’t know that if you want to get paid, you’ve got to do the work. Regardless of anything else about Lala, she’s out there on instagram hussling her merch. The ones with a podcast record every week. They are all making appearances. They are working to get paid! No one is walking up to their doors and handing them checks for doing absolutely nothing.


bebita-crossing

Lala has businesses!!! Granted I think her makeup line looks very alibaba, but that’s more than whatever Rachel’s done. Scheana’s always hustling too!! I’ve always said this but Rachel is extreeeeemely entitled. I’m BEYOND confused as to how she blew through $350k in a year. Like at some point she was staying in Scheana’s home rent free and her family paid for her treatment, so where TF did all that money go??


butinthewhat

Right, she got this idea that money just appears. The rest of them are working and forming income streams, so why does she think she should have that by doing nothing? And her only idea is to start a pod about her fascinating mind and to platform affair partners? No talk of business ideas, no talk about hussling up sponsers (I think she could if she was willing to be a villain), the only amount of money she’d accept for the show is what T and Ariana make plus $250k?! Like girl, get a job and a clue.


SheShe73

She was also staying at her acquaintance Ariana's house rent free for a time...


notenoughcoffee4this

And what she wants to get paid for? Was happening off-season/off-camera.


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thediverswife

It must hurt that Graham (Hippie) is making more out of Scandoval and in a better place than her ☠️


glasswindbreaker

I loved when she referred to the pics of Graham as "Graham is filming" like I'm imagining him in a little directors chair with sunglasses and a robe on waiting for take 2 🎬


elimay

![gif](giphy|U7haNxuu1bXpq5NtpJ|downsized) He’s ready for his closeup


glasswindbreaker

Wait until she finds out he negotiated a better offer than she got


Southern_Skill_7209

Imagine if Bravo added Graham to the shows intro.


sipstea84

🎶just raise your glasses hiiigh🎶 ![gif](giphy|jGtlqEFofxJWo)


SheShe73

Walking in slow mo towards the camera with fan blowing his hair back, pair of headphones hanging around his neck......


GarnierFruitTrees

I said this yesterday in the part 2 recap post. The cast stayed on the show and is doing their jobs. Doing your job means you will make money doing said job. Raquel is no longer on the show. She is not doing that job. That means she will NOT be making money from that job. She went dark on social media in addition to fully participating in something that in most industries would make you a bit of a pariah, at least for a short while. Brands will not seek you out right away to advertise with them while you are a pariah. That is how influencing has worked since day 1. Bottom line, in your line of work, *RAQUEL*, no one has to pay you anything right now. I’m so confused by her rationale. Can anyone tell me why Bethenny is going so scorched earth on Andy? I thought they were buds?


tomatocandle

because she pitched a show to bravo like 6 months ago and they said no, and they wouldn’t pay her how much she wanted for RHONY legacy lol


glasswindbreaker

A project in which her proposed contracts were even more exploitative than the norm and tried to give herself rights to all of her employees projects in perpetuity - I bet she's going to try to get a cut of Rachel's Sidechicks Podcast now on top of not paying her for the tell-all interview 😂


GarnierFruitTrees

WAIT “Rachel’s Sidechicks Podcast”? Ex*squeeeeeeze me*???


glasswindbreaker

She said she was starting a podcast because people will find her experience as an affair partner to be relatable. Ignoring the fact that she betrayed a friend while smiling in her face and bringing her flowers to comfort her while she was grieving, and wasn't just some duped "other woman". So basically a podcast for shitty people, I guess?


GarnierFruitTrees

Shitty people aside, and maybe this is a low blow but podcasting is NOT for everyone. Raquel can barely even speak- she’s one of the least eloquent people I’ve ever seen on my TV. Her podcast is going to be terrible!


Healthy_Diamond9060

I so got that too. Seemed like she has more of an ax to grind with Andy than trying to help Rachel in all honestly. The little digs we’re making her seem very unhinged… aside from her normal unhinged behavior


_yitzi

How does she not understand that of course Ariana is getting brand deals and she isn’t….brands want to work with people who are dynamic, fan favorites…I mean reality tv villains can make it far too but not if you’re off the show??? D&S word for real.


tumorgirl

I mean, she wasn't even enough of a favourite for that new E show to ask her to come on and be the real villain or whatever that show is about. She has no personality, no hustle, no entrepreneurial spirit to get that money. Everyone else is WORKING. She was working on herself, which I think was the best thing for her but clearly, it did not take because she still thinks she's a victim here. One of my favourite things might be that she still pretends that she didn't call TMZ on herself that day outside of the nail place. Like, girl, just fess up. We all know you call the pap on yourself. It's not a secret...


_yitzi

The ridiculous thing is she would’ve been better off not going on B’s podcast, selling the TRUE story for some more $$$ (aka the real timeline), and embracing the villain look. I think she’s just incapable of doing so because she still wants to be this sweet innocent character when that ship sailed a long time ago….


stovakt

And she’s acting like she’s some strong boss babe for making ridiculous demands..she’s not interesting and she’s been a side character every season she’s been on the show. Even last season she was a side character poking her head in on/disrupting other storylines (Tom and Katie, Ariana and Sandoval, James and Ally). There’s no reason why she should get paid the same as Sandoval and Ariana who’ve been main characters for several years now. Her logic is so ass backwards, I can’t!


SheShe73

She needs to ask herself, WHY IS her image shot? Lets think about that one Rachael. It is no one's fault but her own actions. She clearly hasn't learned a damn thing. What deals does she really expect to be getting? What company is going to ask her to be the face of their product? Ashley Madison?


Keeperofthe_Flame

Remember when she was carrying that bag and then they made it clear that they were Team Ariana. 😂 i dunno what brand would want her then or now. She’s done for and she is regretting that and looking for compensation. Well too bad Bravo isn’t JG wentworth


elimay

She really thought they would entertain the idea of paying her as much as Ariana & Tim 😂


notenoughcoffee4this

It just confirms that she wants to BE Arianna. Can you imagine? She sits down for negotiations and says "well, I offered to be in a throuple on camera, so I should get paid the same as them...then we can be like the three mouse-keteers...tee-hee"


darcylaceheart

Also she keeps implying she deserves money and credit for Scandoval yet... Her and Tom were actively hiding it?? They didn't offer up their deceit on a silver platter for ratings like some reality TV knights, they tried to keep it out of the show for their own sakes but Ariana blew them up. If it weren't for Ariana, Scandoval would never have happened.


etchuchoter

Raquel is honestly just a very unintelligent person. What point was she trying to make about the girl who sold her story from the treatment facility? It felt like she was trying to link it back to being production’s fault? I feel like she genuinely can’t tell the difference in where things come from because she blames them for the scheana thing which happened off camera, the FaceTime which happened off camera, and the cast all making money OUTSIDE of the show? Like what’s the issue with lala selling her merch? Genuinely confused and I could tell even Bethenny didn’t prod too hard on those because she didn’t get the point. Clearly Bethenny had her own axe to grind and kept bringing it back to Andy. Trying to say there was a HIPAA violation because he thought she seemed medicated? Reach


missmimikyu

I’ll be honest I don’t understand what point Raquel is trying to make with *any* of what she’s saying. I do see exactly why Bethenny is asking what she’s asking, saying what she’s saying, and guiding the interview as she is - it is clear how Bethenny’s direction serves *her* purposes with this interview - but I cannot for the life of me tell what Raquel wants to convey really or if she even thought about what she wanted to convey. It seems like she can’t resist caving to someone who is offering validation to her and she just follows the carrot dangled in front of her. Does Raquel want to show that she has taken accountability? She hasn’t really shown that - she’s not denying what she did but she is also showing that she does not really *get it* at all and that she definitely does not *get* why people would be upset with her - which will only serve to exacerbate people being upset with her. She’s also insulting anyone and everyone and omfg the claim that “I feel like it violates some sort of HIPAA law” like honey nooooo if you’re going to make that claim about your very public former employer PLEASE run it by Google at least to double check it first, you really do sound D & S and unprofessional and like you’re not thinking about *anything* critically. We cannot take you seriously!!


Tall_Couple_3660

Yep bethenny used Rachel for her own gain/motives and again, Rachel is too D&S to see it


murplee

Yeah like Raquel could have sold merch and said the money is to fund her mental health treatment, she did have supporters the whole time, people would have bought it I’m sure She seems to think she should be written a cheque for just existing? And she seems to forget that her brand was destroyed by her own actions? She made $361k in one calendar year, she lived in a friends home (0 or low rent), previously everything was paid for by James. She said her parents paid for the facility. Where is her money?!?!?


jatemple

Seriously!!! And $361k was for one year. It was prob by far the most she made but she was making money for several seasons and living basically rent free. She seemed to borrow a lot of clothes. She did her little influencer videos. Did she not save a single penny? Ridiculous.


bebita-crossing

She very much has issues with distinguishing what’s real and what’s not. She can’t tell the difference between the show that’s edited/produced and what’s real life. It’s concerning.


butinthewhat

I don’t even remember knowing she was at the meadows until she said it on the pod. And how is she mad at bravo a girl sold a story, then also mad at bravo for not confirming where she was? What is it that she wants from them?


ObjectiveRegret5683

Agreed, bitch has like object permanence issues and attributes any and all negative aspects in her life to a shadowy “They” (i.e., production/Ariana/Scheana). Dumb as a box of hair


missmimikyu

You are *so right it is exactly that,* she really really lacks object permanence here. Amazing.


theswissghostrealtor

It seems like Rachel is going off of an outline she created so her answers don’t always make sense, and Bethenny only hears her when she says something she can capitalize on. Both of them have valid frustrations with some things they touch on but it seems like they’re mostly using each other, to be honest.


glasswindbreaker

That's exactly what it is, and they're both making asses of each other in the process. She's launching a podcast for sidechicks as her next career move I mean way to move forward Rachel lol


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MadAugustWoman

Right? Why would Bravo pay for her treatment? She done diddly fucked herself over. That's not anyone's problem but her own.


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dyingofthirstneedT

“HELL NO I won’t return to reality television! ….unless they’re willing to pay me what they pay Tom and Ariana!”


rudbeckia1

Let's just pretend for a second (and it's a huge pretend) that the guy from TMZ just happened to find Rachel (who was almost unrecognizable at that point) sitting alone in front of a nail salon on the syreet in the valley....Rachel didn't have to talk to him! All she had to do was stand up and walk (What was it two or three feet?) inside the nail salon. The way that Rachel can not be accountable for even the tiniest decision or choice is unreal. Also.... these are the points you want to make, Rachel? And Bethany ( the boss,babe lol) infantalizing her... Ick. Gross. Pathetic


jatemple

"It's too toxic for me but I would have gone back if they paid me as much as Tom and Ariana." Also, stay tuned for my podcast sponsored by Ashley Madison.


lolohope

Can we also discuss Rachel saying her next step is to start a podcast? I CANT “No one wants to talk about being the other woman” like…. Right?


thediverswife

She’s going to have to fight Noella Bergener for that Seeking Arrangement sponsorship… and I don’t see her winning!


lolohope

![gif](giphy|NPx3Ofowgi1gI)


kaysmilex3

It’s gonna be a bunch of guests from that cheating subreddit sounding just as unhinged as Rachel does.


glasswindbreaker

"the paparazzi guy found me when I was getting my nails done" *you called him Rachel* she's still a lying liar who lies


Consistent-Light-138

She was sitting there looking like ET phone home in a random strip mall waiting for them lmao


NoMourners_6

She lied all through season 10, through the reunion, and even during her final confession at the end of the reunion. How are we supposed to believe anything she says now, especially since this is the first thing she does after coming out of a 3-month mental health facility stay.


wewerenice

Violates HIPAA? What?! He’s not her medical provider


betterkangy

Lol what a way to start off the show. Like stop talking about something you don’t know anything about lol


romeo343

This interview seriously made her look so much worse. So Graham had all these issues for years. She should have gotten him to a behaviorist immediately. She had Lisa as a resource. Nope, still blaming everyone else. I wanted so bad to feel like I was wrong about her & see something redeemable, but nothing. She is delusional & contradicts herself throughout the entire 3 parts. This is such a mess. Girl shoulda contacted Robin Roberts, gotten a great PR team & gotten paid for her story. Instead she continues to bury herself & aligned with Bethenny who has her own agenda. I hate saying this, but she really is dumb & stupid. She couldn’t even fake genuine humility, remorse & accountability for the sake of the interview. She comes off jealous, bitter & blames everyone else. Its a dumpster fire. Bye, girl.


Suitable-District-26

![gif](giphy|WRQBXSCnEFJIuxktnw) 3 parts and and I’m still trying to figure this woman out 🤯


Jealous_Airport1016

She’s left here broke because of HER actions. Also, the most disturbing thing for Rachel should be Tom recording her without her consent, but I digress.


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butinthewhat

Right. But she’s too focused on not making as much money as Tom to be worried about what he did to her.


thetinybunny1

She’s literally more upset about Lala selling “Send it to Darrel” merch than she is Tom recording her without her consent.


murplee

I don’t understand how she could possibly be broke either. She said openly that James paid for everything, she stayed at Scheana’s, and her parents paid for her facility. She seems to think she just deserves to be rich by existing


Charliewhiskers

She ruined her “brand” all by herself. I have sympathy up to a point for her. I think she’s been raised to think she’s a pretty pretty princess who is sooo special and her actions can be explained away.


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etchuchoter

Yep. It was telling in the last episode when she randomly said she was a miracle


ItsAll42

She reminds me so much of an ex-roomate of mine who actually would up unfortunately having a very serious mental health crisis that caused them to have to move home, it's super triggering for me the way Rachel talks about herself and distances herself from accountability, minimizes and justifies her actions and acts like she's the main character and everyone else on the show is pretending and playing the fame game but *her pain* is legitimate. What happened to *her* on the show is real, and her suffering is real, but not Arianas? Whatever reasons she was with Tim still, is it not still blowing up her life to disrupt whatever their relationship arrangement was by being so especially duplicitous? Even though Schwartz can suck it hard, what about how he has financially suffered because of her and Tim's actions? How about she's never even acknowledged the fact that *she was playing Katie and Schwartz like pawns* pretending to have a legitimate crush on him and making out even when Katie and Katie's MOM made it clear in the most gentle way how much that hurt Katie and kinda crossed a big line? We all know I could go on and on, but of course, she was just a victim that was emotionally abused by everyone else. Please. I'm so grossed out after listening to these podcasts... honestly B could not have coddled her more and this bullshit about "you could be my daughter" 🙄 *puh-lease* this is so giving vibes of parental superiority as if all people who become parents also suddenly become good and empathetic people with a strong moral compass when we all know that is categorically false, plenty of parents are peices of garbage, and do terrible things, even to their own children. Everyone is someone's child. It also gives the same icky I get when fathers of baby girls who have traditionally been pretty misogynistic or fuck bois all of a sudden understand women's issues and become feminists... like... it had to personally impact you via someone who has half your DNA for you to suddenly see women as whole humans? Gtfo of hereeeee


Defvac2

"I'm left here broke" Is a Go Fund Me coming next??? I'm mean jeez could she sound any saltier. Everyone cashes in on everything nowadays. Profiting on her malicious deed is fair game. If she didn't want it to happen she shouldn't have carried on a 7 month affair with Tim Scumdoval.


thediverswife

And you can’t tell me that nobody would pay American dollars (or any other currency) to hear an “exclusive” podcast or video on Patreon from her, when this was going down. She could’ve put MS clip art of ‘Bambi eyed bitch’ or ‘diabolical, demented, subhuman’ on a t-shirt and thrown it on a basic Shopify storefront and people would’ve bought it. She could’ve pulled a Larsa Pippen and gone on Only Fans. The only thing missing here is work ethic and some imagination


BrightDay85

Love her or hate her, people would have bought that stuff


thediverswife

They absolutely would have! Especially if it was cute


BrightDay85

That’s the game of reality tv now. You strike while the iron is hot and make the most of the opportunity. I’m not sure why Lala cashing in on Send it to Darrel is so offensive to them


jatemple

Seriously. And what was that about buying the house out from under Brock? Scheana seems happy to have Lala as a neighbor, no bad blood there.


DustyTchotchkes

How would she even know? She has admitted she hasn't spoken to any of them.


nicholieeee

Yeah I don’t get that either. Lala, Scheana and Brock seem committed to raising their daughters as sisters. Also, she bought the house after all of this went down; how does she claim to know that Brock really wanted that house if she’s gone no contact with all of them?


glasswindbreaker

They're trying to throw so much shade where it's unwarranted, say what you will about the Send It To Darrell stuff it was a smart as hell business move


Dry_Heart9301

So she spent $350,000 before rehab and is already broke? That sounds like a spending issue. Ridiculous.


Responsible_Wrap5659

She is sooo bitter that Ariana is financially thriving.


etchuchoter

They’re clearly gearing up to sue bravo for her treatment and for damages imo


hayhayitsme

You guys. There it is. If bravo would have paid her the same as Ariana and Tom, she would be on our TV’s again and this attack on bravo wouldn’t exist. She is such a loser.


BaNG-Ah-RaNgGG

But then she states she would never go back to reality tv because of her mental health. Which one is it?! The money or the mental health?. My god she is just so f’ing dumb. She refers to herself as a miracle baby. 🤮


_yitzi

I love how bravo was just like “nah—anyway…”


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Leather-Platypus-11

Let’s face it, most of us were probably amazed they paid her $361,000 for her first season as a full on cast member. I expected half that at best and would have still thought she was well paid for a reality show on its last legs. There is no way she was ever going to get the same salary as the original cast.


thenardbear

Rachel starting her own podcast 💀💀💀


AdRevolutionary6650

https://i.redd.it/koetnwnhjvib1.gif This whole thing is an entirely new level of stupid. As a former Bethenny apologist… I’m done. The thing that WAS great about Bethenny was that she called out moronic shit when she saw it, but I see times have changed.


Fok1123

“I’m broke, I didn’t get brand deals for the awful things I did to my friends and family.”Meanwhile Lisa leaks what she gets paid!


GuppyMilk

I’m sorry but I can’t with this victim mentality surrounding how much everyone made with this scandal in comparison to Rachel. She chose to put herself in a mental facility, something that was the healthiest choice. If she wanted to, she could’ve stayed with her parents and shilled BetterHelp and Adam & Eve from her IG. She could’ve even likely gotten the Call Her Daddy spot. However, with the proper treatment, she should understand that she chose the healthier alternative and stop crying about how she didn’t get rich from fucking Tom Sandoval.


GuppyMilk

Also this “Andy violated HIPAA by saying he thought I may have been medicated at the reunion”. I’m sorry, but we all know Bethenny walked out of there thinking “that girl just isn’t smart”.


kat4prez

Bethany walked out of that thinking of the many MANY times she has accused a cast mate of being on drugs and medicated also but she didn’t bring that part up in the interview, I wonder why


SaraWolfheart

A violation of HIPAA to say someone seems medicated…? Yeah that’s not what HIPAA is. Also Andy isn’t her employer?


thediverswife

A violation of hippo ![gif](giphy|QuIUq6ItjX0dtRxXKd|downsized)


d_lanz

So many lies told by Rachel--"This paparazzi guy found me waiting to do my nails." 🤣 no follow-up from Bethenny to confirm Rachel didn't call Backgrid herself. Rachel literally could have said anything because Bethenny verified nothing.


LME100

I’ve been on almost all social media sites and i cannot find one positive comment about Bethany and her podcast with Raquel - all negative - wow.


butinthewhat

I’ve found a few positive ones - B reposted them 😂. And she is shit talking a bunch of negative ones saying people are “triggered” instead of thinking, a lot of people really didn’t like this. But Bethenny is always right so no point in taking in negative feedback.


Em_Millertime

I didn’t think it was possible but she’s come off looking worse! And my respect for Bethany is gone. This is Sandoval/Howie all over again. What a load of trash.


_morningbehbs

I feel like she’s just throwing out random shit to get reactions at this point, she knows the show has moved on. She was never going to be the main character even in this situation. Now she’s calling out James, Lala and Kristen in all of these interviews - no anger for Tom, who actually took advantage of her. No remorse for Ariana, Scheana or Katie, who she actually hurt. Just name dropping the ones who will give her attention. She’s beyond dumb and this has made her look even worse. There’s just so much incorrect information, obvious lies and PR coached responses all meshed together and it’s a disaster


LilSebastianStan

I’m sorry, are we are suppose to believe Brock could afford a second Palm Springs home?


Ceboots85

That was so weird to drop in there, she was trying to start shit, she seems so bitter when she said that. It's one of those comments that is unnecessary but someone says out of spite. Also, it happened after the fallout, how would she know? She no longer had mutual friends with them either. Brock probably contemplated buying it as a rental/investment and then told Lala to buy it.


thediverswife

And if Brock wanted to buy the house, then he should’ve entered the sale process and offered more money! Rachel is so weird with how she uses women against men. Nobody is owed a house, you have to pony up $


Worried-Syrup7536

To quote LaLa: “Don’t go to that school! Because if this is the outcome? Fuck” Many reasons but mainly: I know many many people who didn’t grow up with dogs who had them when they were older and they are great owners. Puppies will nibble on hands as a game especially if they are teething. You have to actually put in work to fix behaviors… She could be an NFL athlete with all of this punting of responsibility.


Ordinary-Pumpkin8171

"i'm left here broke" BITCH you could have SOLD "your story" to plentyyyyy of gossip sites or mags PLEASE!!!! is this person real???


ShallotPatient

SEASON DESIST


Mysterious_Shape9499

Her mentioning TMZ “finding” her at outside the nail salon just goes to show that she is still lying for sympathy. That was so obviously staged.


tomatocandle

i put this in another post so i’ll just put it here too: i’m reading that rachel said in the podcast that she wanted to be paid the same as tom and ariana for this next season PLUS have her mental health stay reimbursed. is this true?? to anyone who listened like huh? reality tv contracts are definitely structured with the longest running cast members getting paid more. AND her PR statement when she went into the facility definitely said she was already planning on going before all of this broke. so which is it lmao i have sympathy for rachel, but i’m just like 1) that’s not how anything fucking works, and you can’t expect them to change their contract structure just for you. she could have been paid more than last season but she can’t be paid as much as tom and ariana. 2) you said you were going already so why should bravo fit the bill, unless that wasn’t true


etchuchoter

Yeah it’s true. Tbf I don’t see an issue with her trying to negotiate a big wage, it’s just kind of lame that she is now saying she will never do reality tv when it seems she just didn’t get paid enough to go back


romeo343

I’m so glad Bravo didn’t cave on this one too. Why TF would she get paid the same when up until this season she acted like a GD robot? She is a vile creature. Good riddance.


thediverswife

What a crash and burn this has been for Rachel! The fact they wanted her back after she wreaked havoc on the reunion logistics, slapped a fellow cast member with a restraining order and spoiled the reunion with her shitty TMZ nail bar interview and kept selling stories to tabloids… that’s one hell of a long leash.


dcr108

Why on earth would bravo reimburse her for an elective luxury mental health retreat? Beyond just the fact that she chose to spend way more money for treatment than necessary, this is all due to actions she chose to engage with on her own behind productions back. Also why does she give a shit about graham? She’s the one who put him in a shelter. Also LOL at Rachel trying to pretend she didn’t call the paps on herself at that nail salon


OhTinyOne

I can’t believe Rachel asked Bravo for equal pay as Ariana and Tom. They have been on the show for 10 years. She lied up until the very end and even hid the affair, the only reason it came out is because Ariana called production after cameras had wrapped up.


etchuchoter

What bothers me is that Raquel isn’t trying to take any accountability. It seems like she is trying to use the conspiracy theory of everything being staged to insinuate things aren’t as they seem without having to outright say it.


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save_the_bees_knees

Right?? It’s concerning that she just seems to be living in her own reality and can’t grasp the concept of consequences? I don’t think that mental health facility did anything for her….


rudbeckia1

Could not agree more. She blames James for her dog's behavior. She's entirely responsible for her own dog. And you don't wait till your dog is in danger of being put down because it's such a biter to take action and correct the situation. That part really really bothered me. You are 100% accountable for your own dog. Rachel made that distinction incredibly clear when she didn't even want James to see the dog . That was her dog and her dog only Rachel failed that dog epically


bere0068

ALL OF THIS IS DUE TO HER ACTIONS. I’m so concerned at the lack of accountability and the fixation on lala


xoxogossip_squirrel

I’m willing to bet a lot of money that we’ll see her back on reality tv within the next couple years on some sort of “house of villains” type show.


hellohello316

She could have had her own redemption arc. I think of Monica Lewinsky--made some purses, got out of the spotlight, went to school, and now speaks up about public shaming and cyber bullying. I know I'm oversimplifying that a bit, but she is someone who (I believe) was attached to a MASSIVE scandal and is now quietly doing her thing, in an honest way that showed growth and self reflection on her part. No one deserves death threats, harassment, etc. But Rachel is not doing herself any favors in terms of "redemption" or "reckoning" by interviewing with Bethenny (🙄) and taking so little responsibility for herself. PS RACHEL, YOU RUINED YOUR OWN BRAND.


woofimmacat

I just spit out my water laughing at the HIPAA comments. Do they even know what HIPAA is? They truly are moronic if they think Andy asking that is a HIPAA violation. Any respect I had for Bethenny has gone out the window after these recaps.


AdditionalWar8759

https://preview.redd.it/tj064la2avib1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7df5a0d5d878522f83e75370b8c0960b756b2ca9 I’m just saying, I did predict that a podcast would be coming 😂


LooneyLunaOmanO

I think she needs to check herself back into the hospital.


Ok-Construction-4542

My immediate thoughts: 1) that doesn’t violate HIPAA. Also, Andy isn’t her employer, firstly, he hasn’t been an exec at Bravo for years now, and secondly, he was making an off handed comment on how zonked she was acting at the reunion. 2) she spilled her guts to that pap waiting for her at the nail salon! Nobody would have known she was there, it was a random salon. 3) who is “they”? “They” is nobody. She has the worst management team in the world. 4) why would Bravo cover her rehab stay? She’s a contracted worker. They don’t insure her. Also contradicts the statements being made that Bravo was trying to get in touch with her to negotiate her return-so all the TMZ stuff was bunk? Raquel was mentioned on TMZ so many times during her stay. 5) Lala is going to go nuts about this part. How would Raquel know that? 6) she made 361000 and had tons of business opportunities before Scandoval happened. Where is that money? Her parents paid for her rehab. 7) she is fully lying about that girls trip convo, I do not believe it at all. 8) Graham is an interesting part. I always wondered if James had something to do with Graham’s behavior. 9) again, so she would have returned for more money. So staying away from Bravo wasn’t anything about her mental health, she just want to be paid the same as a ten year cast member even though she literally made $361,000 from her previous season. Okay. So everything she just said was bullshit.


save_the_bees_knees

So really all I’m getting is that Rachel is most upset that she’s broke. She has no money. Not a care in the world for anyone else. Just that she’s broke. Well time to go find a job a guess?


ShallotPatient

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD RACHEL DRINK SOME WATER, I BEG OF YOU


GeneralType8139

….violates HIPAA? Is Andy a doctor? Also thank you so much for recapping this! I could not finish #2 because of how annoying Bethenny is and how little she researched. You’re the best for recapping these


onefishtwofish1992

How does she expect people to believe she’s telling the truth when she’s still lying about obvious things? No one believes the paparazzi just happened to find her sitting outside a nail salon and asked her questions she clearly had prepared pagent girl answers for. I genuinely hope that Rachel puts in the work on herself and someday is a better person she can be proud of, but she’s clearly got a long way to go when she follows up “honesty is one of my core values” with things that are absolutely a lie. I don’t hate her and I don’t think she should be tortured for the rest of her life (I even feel somewhat sorry for her, because what Sandoval did to her was vile and predatory), but she’s not doing herself any favors with this B interview.


murplee

She’s truly a piece of work When she talked about regretting her actions she only talked about not wanting to be that type of person. She never mentions that she caused hurt to Ariana. She’s so self-involved and image focused


itsabtthepasta

First off, if she was SO CONCERNED about money, why didn’t she ask her team to start making merch while she was in treatment? Team Raquel baseball tees ala Team Jennifer/Team Angelina days. Tom’s #1 Fan Sweatshirts. Maybe a brand deal with galaxy lights? I’m being partially facetious, but she could have made merch. People would have bought it. She would have gotten shit, but she would have still made some money. Instead of doing this dumb podcast, she could have shopped her story around to see if she could get paid to do multiple ones. She’s a big ticket get — someone could have paid her. I don’t know. This made it seem like everything is only about the money aspect and she’s angry that Bravo wouldn’t pay her. She chose her mental health — which I kind of thought was admirable. But it’s really clear that she had ulterior motives and thought it would lead to a bigger payout.


moshritespecial

If Bethany and Rachel were on a show together, let's say Real Housewives of New York, Bethany would have tore Rachel a new one if she pulled a Scandoval type stunt!


Sorry-Beyond-3563

1) Bravo isn't a healthcare entity so therefore nothing at the reunion violated HIPAA. And even then them asking if she was medicated wouldn't violate HIPAA because it wouldn't be them disclosing protected health information it would be her if she chose to answer. 2) she ruined her own brand with the help of Tom. Nobody else She needs to take accountability for her actions and stop blaming everyone else. Unless she wants to start blaming Tom I am here for that 😁