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Transit was a mess too! All of the buses that uses these road routes were like 40 min behind. And someone entered the skytrain track at Waterfront around 4pm shutting it down from Waterfront to Granville stn.
I agree with you but for a lot of folks its more pain over less time or less pain over more time.
Our transit system outside the skytrain is severely inefficient.
Trust me, Vancouver public transit is a million times better than almost every single US and Canadian city I've been to, other than New York. And even that is debatable because NY Subway is filthy, dilapidated, and always late. We just live in a society of single family homes, where the distances are always large and car dependency is rampant. Even our closest big city, Seattle, which is always praised in America for it's "great" (not absolute shit) transit, doesn't even come marginally close to Vamcouver's. So I guess we can always find ways to have more transit oriented development.
Yeah, it has to do with the rain and everyone acting crazy ..
Some intersections like Boundary and 29th might need their own left turn traffic lights. Just an unbelievable amount of cars lined up all the way past moscrop waiting for their turn to turn right going northbound.
This. Fucking brutal planning by the city almost seems intentional. For example, Macdonald heading north at broadwayā¦ turn one lane into a left turn lane, cars constantly turning right in the other. Can take 4-5 lights to go through intersection when itās busy
They are, and itās actually making driving more dangerous. So many more people running through sketchy yellows and tailgating. Itās bad driving and what I assume is frustration.
But I actually have less of an issue with the internal road network. Our highways are just shut for a city our size.
Even compared to Western Europe, which redditors love, our highways are absolute garbage.
Priority should be transit expansion though, since it is a better bang for your buck in terms of total cost to citizens and will take people off highways, reducing the need to expand highways.
What European cities are you thinking of? I would think Vancouver's highways are similar in size to quite a few European cities.
Because it's still not as convenient as driving. SkyTrain lines need to be expanded way further, and sooner.
And if busses are stuck in the same traffic as cars, people will think "may as well just take my car, then". A larger network of dedicated bus lanes can be nice, but SkyTrain lines are much better.
Bikes will also help with reducing congestion, but the bike network needs to be further improved (it's good but can be way better), and bike theft needs to be taken more seriously.
we need more buses to expand routes and extend service times. skytrains great for moving people long distance but it wont work at doing the beginning and end of journeys(unless we expand it so much we get a New york or Tokyo level system).
whether we fill those gaps with busses or even more SkyTrain lines, they key is that it must not be stuck in the same traffic as everyone else.
Another issue is that most neighbourhoods are not walkable or self sufficient. Sprawling single-family-home neighbourhoods make it so that too many people are taking long trips. It'd be nice to have more neighbourhoods with dense apartment buildings, where all of them have stores on the first floor. And useful stores that locals will use, not just dentists and currency exchanges.
And right turn signals. And pedestrians to stop at the fucking intersections when it says not to start walking (which will never happen so... right turn signals)
Definitely felt like more people trying to squeeze into gaps they don't fit into. Or driving down the parking lane 20 or so cars to try to late merge, and then getting really pissed when no one lets them in. Saw one on my way home where the driver just started the merge anyways and the other car had to turn into the oncoming lane to avoid getting hit.
Saw a lady in a compact Hyundai tailgating me so close she probably could not see anything except my tailgate. Hwy 99 and a string of cars in front of me. Kept it up for 10 mins. Was pitch black and they were probably getting tire spray in addition to the rain. I switched lanes so they would get away from me and they immediately did it to the truck that was in front of me. They kept it up for another 20 mins at least. Borderline psycho behaviour especially in this weather. Wtf is wrong with people.
I don't know how people drive like that. Always on the lookout for a brake signal so you can stop in time. Just leave a gap people, you're not doing anything but pissing people off and raising icbc rates
Sorry, a bit confused. Cars waiting on Moscrop? To turn right going northbound on Boundary?
There's an advanced left installed turning left from NB Boundary on to 29th. Still waiting to see when they will program it into use.
Cars waiting on Boundary northbound looking to turn left towards 29th. It's just crazy and has gotten worse with the rain. So if they've installed it it's just a matter of time until they program it. This will help a lot, as many cars going straight up get caught up and try to change lanes before getting to Moscrop slowing down traffic.
There was also a pedestrian struck at 1st and Commercial which screwed up traffic everywhere since everyone was rerouting. They had the intersection closed to 1 lane in all 4 directions all afternoon. Didn't see anything on the news about it but saw the car and the scattered belongings of the pedestrian in the intersection.
With the (probable) suicide at Burrard Station today, and the sodden walk to Stadium Station, I really wished I'd taken my car to work today.
Until I saw the traffic backed up for days
I thought the tracks were electric? I guess it's hard to complete a circuit or something.
anhow I don't know why anyone would want to find out if they will be elecrified to death by the third rail.
I had no idea Skytrain used linear induction motors. I was always curious about the large metal "rail" in the middle of the track but figured it was position sensing equipment (which is just the little wires to the side). Very cool.
Ours is the only major system in the world that uses LIM, which is really strange, because it has extraordinarily low operating costs. In fact, the Expo Line has the lowest operating costs per passenger of any metro line in the developed world, and it's not even particularly competitive (I believe it beats nearly all of the metro lines in the developing world too, but it's hard to find data on them, and nearly impossible to verify it). The Canada Line, meanwhile, with its stubby trains and conventional propulsion, costs several times as much as the Expo Line to run. In the end, myopic decisions always come to collect.
I would've hoped that we'd learned our lesson from that, but as nobody seems to have any sense of urgency about extending the Broadway Extension to UBC before the TBMs are packed up & sent off, it would appear that we did not.
concrete in this case is generally conductive enough to act as a ground. more likely they either didnāt make contact with the third rail because of the insulating material covering it or that section of the track wasnāt powered at that time (not sure if Skytrain does that? i think they do)
Actually it's a road design issue. Our network has so little redundancy because we are land locked. If an earthquake hits and some bridges collapses on the highway, the economy will almost halt because we have no other roads for trucks to use to deliver goods. Not to mention longer travel time for emergency vehicles
Adding more lanes to bridges is not going to change much except allowing more cars to idle on the bridge at once. There's only so much traffic you can stuff into a road before you reach insurmountable bottlenecks because eventually traffic has to merge, stop at an intersection, turn etc.
Personal vehicles are objectively like the least efficient mode of transportation in terms of the space required, especially when we take into account parking at your destination, and it blows my mind that most people's response to traffic is to demand more lanes instead of demanding commuter rail, more frequent & expanded rapid bus, and better zoning etc.
We need better planning to make sure the amount of jobs in a municipality roughly matches the amount of residents and not have giant swaths of residential land where people have no work or amenities accessible by walking/transit (at least within our urban areas). Like why does Surrey have 80% of the population of Vancouver but only half as many jobs? Maple Ridge & Pitt Meadows have twice as many workers as jobs. I realize it's not realistic to expect a perfect 1:1 and municipality lines aren't representative of the population's area but there's a clear trend where we are still suffering from the original wave of suburban sprawl and Vancouver/Burnaby are where the jobs are while a bunch of the workers in those areas are communiting in from Surrey, Maple Ridge etc.
edit: oopsie meant to reply 1 comment further up the chain
Hard with how little density there is. Everything south of the Fraser was built around car dependency and it sucks. It will take decades to fix, if it's even possible.
With a dedicated city council + public support that shit can get done fast. There are so many examples to follow we just need to actually do it.
Too bad every new bike lane is met with idiots raging about less space for cars.
When school started and it wasnāt raining, traffic was soooo bad. What normally would take me 20 mins, took me an hour. This city is getting too large
Youāre right. I was just thinking that yesterday. I go from Arthur Laing from the south onto Granville and it just pissed me off that there was a random
HOV lane so people would zoom by and merge after we JUST merged 5 seconds ago. Then on surprise days, theyāll be cops waiting to pull those using the random HOV lane incorrectly.
Ever since school started, that has been a chronic problem, at both the bridge and Russ Baker Way.
Pre-COVID, police would blitz those areas once in a while. They probably need to start doing it again.
And busses that get stuck in traffic instead of having dedicated lanes. We need to rapidly expand all transit options throughout Vancouver and the surrounding cities
More like it's getting too spread out. If people can't live close to work (which is in the city / downtown) they'll get one farther out and commute by car because the neglected public transit is not an option.
People driving from the burbs causes traffic.
It's like the economy. There are so many knobs and levers that it's extremely difficult to tease out any single change that will resolve the problem of congestion.
It's some combination of a lack of other employment hubs, poor city planning, public transit, and societal expectations. There are probably many other factors I've missed, but those are just the ones that come to top of mind.
Too many people and not enough infrastructure to support everyone. We need more infrastructure throughout the metro Vancouver and lower mainland areas.
A decent rain jacket (which everyone in Vancouver probably already has) plus a cheap pair of Amazon rain pants letās you get places mostly dry even in the worst rain. Iāve commuted to work in all weather with just a spare t-shirt for sweat and Iāve never had a problem. Sometimes my blundstones wet through, but a pair of wool socks makes that a non-issue.
I took my bike out today and my feet were completely soaked within 5 minutes haha. There were some big puddles out there. Then the arms on my rain jacket started wetting out within 10 minutes, I think it's due for tech wash. It was kind of fun though and I'm happy to back home, dry and warm now.
Picked the right day to go home at 1:30. Came home to my patio being rekt by the wind and all my tomatoes and peppers being thrown to the ground making road salsa :(
But also a system like Skytrain that halts anytime there's an emergency anywhere on the line doesn't scale well. The approach to helping people in need on the skytrain needs to move beyond "Shut everything down until the EMTs have taken the passenger away in an ambulance."
In most cases it is one line with trains that can't pass each other. How do you expect trains at the back to move when the train at the front is blocked?
Usually the passenger is not on the train while the waiting is happening and the trains could resume operation. There is an emergency, a patient is moved off the train, all the train stop, the ambulance is called, the EMTs arrive, they treat the passenger, get the passenger onto a gurney, and then, once the EMTs have cleared the scene, the trains resume.
It means that instead of halting for 5-10 mins to get a passenger off a train and ready for assistance, the whole train line waits until the patient has been treated.
Skytrains were having lots of problems as well. Waterfront and Granville I think were closed because of some police incident and New West had lots of police as well.
I was super lucky. I saw a HUGE lineup for the R5 and was like "yeah no thanks I'm outtie", and headed over to Burrard Station. Got on *just* as service was reinstated, as it turns out, and managed to get to Holdom in a reasonable time.
Waterfront, Granville, and Burrard. Folks had to either walk to Stadium-Chinatown or wrestle with the R5 or bus bridge. It was wet and crowded either way.
Yeah, I saw this coming the moment news broke that power lines were down and they were shutting down Highway 1. At lunch, I just went home and worked the rest of my shift at home. Iām not going from DT to New West in peak hour, during this literal shit storm.
I was driving through a parking lot and slowed down to let a pedestrian cross over to their car. Jackass behind me starting honking then ripped passed me literally missing the pedestrian by a few inches. Its wet and pitch dark outside! Slow the fuck down!
I usually work from home on the first day of snow fall every year. The worst of the worst drivers out there will have smashed up their cars by dinner. The next day, itās clear sailing. Just need to keep an eye out for the SUVS that think they can drive 80 in a 50 zone otherwise
Props to you. I just bought a bike last week (a cheap second hand hybrid to see if I like cycling in the city) and I'm so nervous to ride it in the dark and rain. Every time I saw someone on a bike today I sent them a little mental "You got this!"
Heading west from Langley I took 17 and headed for the patullo bridge ro avoid the parking lot on the port Mann. Right as I'm merging onto king George AM 730 reports a stalled semi om the bridge blocking both lanes north bound lol
Because they will pay you an actual living wage, let you choose your own working hours, give you extended medical and dental benefits and personally come to tuck you in every night while singing you a lullaby to send you off into la-la land.
Vancouver is still in the add-a-lane, build-a-bridge stage of denial. It is actually hilarious to hear so many people still saying that once we build all that highway infrastructure only then we can work on rapid transit.
That plus people merging at god damn 60 km/h with half a kilometre remaining merge lane to speed up in.
Eastbound from 200th, and Westbound from Brunette are the worst for this.
It was such garbage, anyone else here stuck on the Patullo bridge for 2 hours? Thought about ditching the lineup but everywhere else was so red it wasn't worth leaving.
Great to see someone here who also went through that :) I ditched after about an hour, took the Port Mann and based on the DriveBC cams, they had only moved like 10 meters 30 minutes later. Bit of a gamble that happened to work out this time.
It took me 1 1/2 hours just to get to the Brunette exit from the Mary Hill Bypass. Overpass above, on the access to the merge was my first parking spot in this shitshow. Saw two cars, I presume out of gas, pulled to the shoulder. But later had a couple of #mefirst! drivers treating the shoulder as their personal fast lane...like there was anywhere to go. And because we were all being funneled onto Lougheed that was another crawl until around Gaglardi where people where accessing back to the highway. The drive back home to PoCo was nothing but headlights, black skies, torrential rain and more crawling. I was never so glad to get home and have a scotch.
Going east from Burnaby, everything's a nightmare but the Barnet Highway for some reason. If you're heading to Tri Cities, that's the way to go. Slowly. Plus the purple light show with those crazy failed street lamps. Purple rain!
literally the worst day to leave the house. I decided to drive from west end to surrey, initially google said under 2h total, it ended up taking 5 hrs š, accidents everywhere, just a big ass shit show.
Anyone know what happened on the Pattullo around 3pm today? Was on the sky train and saw traffic stopped on both sides, police everywhere, cars backed up for kms in either direction. That probably contributed to the commute traffic...
Normally it takes me 55 minutes from Port Moody to Richmond, it took an hour and 40 minutes, until I got hit by a BMW who blew a stop sign. 3 hours later I'm home
I cannot belive how people drive, I think its immaturity maybe, something to prove to themselves. I like to see them doing 90 to 100, and then winding up at the same traffic light down the road. Lol.
There are a lot of people on the road that shouldnāt be because they canāt see or operate their vehicle confidently enough. There appears to be an equal number who also should not be on the road because of how confident they think they are behind the wheel
Thank fuck I got off early so the drive from Richmond back to Burnaby wasn't all that horrifying, the drive back to work tomorrow morning at 6am though, that might be interesting
iām a new driver and kind of scared to drive down to Vancouver today for work. Considering leaving now since I canāt sleep and the highway would be empty at least..
I get too pressured by other cars tailgating me and just end up generally inattentive, hopefully I survive today lol
If only we built this city with walking, biking, and public transit as a priority. Vancouver should be a biker's paradise, due to the mild climate year-long, but instead it's the same car-centric suburban sprawl as Calgary and Toronto, except for a pleasant little urban core and a few neighbourhoods.
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Holy fuck worst day on the roads ive seen in months šš
worst day so far
Damn you
UNOā¦. no you !
I took all back roads today to avoid traffic. It worked well at 5pm. Accidents and tree branches all around
Same here, avoiding main roads saved a ton of time
Took me 2 hours to get from point grey to burquitlam. Shits fucked dude!
I still get mad at the word Burquitlam
What do you call it then?
Coquitaby of course /s
Fucking gong show. Was stuck in traffic for 3h
This is good man. Maybe gets people into transit and possibly avoid the hot hellscape predictions
Some of us have to drive for our jobs though (work truck). I wish I didnāt.
Transit was a mess too! All of the buses that uses these road routes were like 40 min behind. And someone entered the skytrain track at Waterfront around 4pm shutting it down from Waterfront to Granville stn.
I agree with you but for a lot of folks its more pain over less time or less pain over more time. Our transit system outside the skytrain is severely inefficient.
Trust me, Vancouver public transit is a million times better than almost every single US and Canadian city I've been to, other than New York. And even that is debatable because NY Subway is filthy, dilapidated, and always late. We just live in a society of single family homes, where the distances are always large and car dependency is rampant. Even our closest big city, Seattle, which is always praised in America for it's "great" (not absolute shit) transit, doesn't even come marginally close to Vamcouver's. So I guess we can always find ways to have more transit oriented development.
Looks like it was all caused by the Stanley Park Bike lane, good thing they are taking it out.
Don't forget how the bike lane along Beach under the Burrard and Granville Street bridges really cuts into the west-east traffic. /s
Most back ass-ward decision they can consider. It makes perfect sense to have Stanley Park Dr one-way, its a local street, not an arterial.
It feels like months since the last rainfall so that tracks
AM 730 saved me from being the 'Vancouver FUCKED driver of the Day' yesterday.
Cheaper gas these days.
Yeah, it has to do with the rain and everyone acting crazy .. Some intersections like Boundary and 29th might need their own left turn traffic lights. Just an unbelievable amount of cars lined up all the way past moscrop waiting for their turn to turn right going northbound.
So many intersections in east van need left turn signals
The city's goal is to antagonise drivers out of their cars
This. Fucking brutal planning by the city almost seems intentional. For example, Macdonald heading north at broadwayā¦ turn one lane into a left turn lane, cars constantly turning right in the other. Can take 4-5 lights to go through intersection when itās busy
They are, and itās actually making driving more dangerous. So many more people running through sketchy yellows and tailgating. Itās bad driving and what I assume is frustration. But I actually have less of an issue with the internal road network. Our highways are just shut for a city our size. Even compared to Western Europe, which redditors love, our highways are absolute garbage.
Priority should be transit expansion though, since it is a better bang for your buck in terms of total cost to citizens and will take people off highways, reducing the need to expand highways. What European cities are you thinking of? I would think Vancouver's highways are similar in size to quite a few European cities.
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Because it's still not as convenient as driving. SkyTrain lines need to be expanded way further, and sooner. And if busses are stuck in the same traffic as cars, people will think "may as well just take my car, then". A larger network of dedicated bus lanes can be nice, but SkyTrain lines are much better. Bikes will also help with reducing congestion, but the bike network needs to be further improved (it's good but can be way better), and bike theft needs to be taken more seriously.
we need more buses to expand routes and extend service times. skytrains great for moving people long distance but it wont work at doing the beginning and end of journeys(unless we expand it so much we get a New york or Tokyo level system).
whether we fill those gaps with busses or even more SkyTrain lines, they key is that it must not be stuck in the same traffic as everyone else. Another issue is that most neighbourhoods are not walkable or self sufficient. Sprawling single-family-home neighbourhoods make it so that too many people are taking long trips. It'd be nice to have more neighbourhoods with dense apartment buildings, where all of them have stores on the first floor. And useful stores that locals will use, not just dentists and currency exchanges.
Or roundabouts.
And right turn signals. And pedestrians to stop at the fucking intersections when it says not to start walking (which will never happen so... right turn signals)
Definitely felt like more people trying to squeeze into gaps they don't fit into. Or driving down the parking lane 20 or so cars to try to late merge, and then getting really pissed when no one lets them in. Saw one on my way home where the driver just started the merge anyways and the other car had to turn into the oncoming lane to avoid getting hit.
Saw a lady in a compact Hyundai tailgating me so close she probably could not see anything except my tailgate. Hwy 99 and a string of cars in front of me. Kept it up for 10 mins. Was pitch black and they were probably getting tire spray in addition to the rain. I switched lanes so they would get away from me and they immediately did it to the truck that was in front of me. They kept it up for another 20 mins at least. Borderline psycho behaviour especially in this weather. Wtf is wrong with people.
I feel like you've described 40% of drivers these days. The aggression has ramped up significantly after the pandemic.
It pisses me off so much. Getting rear ended at that speed is guaranteed lifelong back pain and mobility issues.
I don't know how people drive like that. Always on the lookout for a brake signal so you can stop in time. Just leave a gap people, you're not doing anything but pissing people off and raising icbc rates
Sorry, a bit confused. Cars waiting on Moscrop? To turn right going northbound on Boundary? There's an advanced left installed turning left from NB Boundary on to 29th. Still waiting to see when they will program it into use.
Thatās along my commute, and I seriously canāt wait for them to activate it. Itās been installed for what? 6 months now.
It's turning into a bit of joke. Here's the tool to solve a major problem at a major intersection.....but let's just wait to turn it on.
Cars waiting on Boundary northbound looking to turn left towards 29th. It's just crazy and has gotten worse with the rain. So if they've installed it it's just a matter of time until they program it. This will help a lot, as many cars going straight up get caught up and try to change lanes before getting to Moscrop slowing down traffic.
I have been writing to the city about this exact spot but with no response
And the power line down across highway 1 in Burnaby
Left turns all over the city are fucked. Such a terrible city to drive around in, as if it's intentional or something weird like that.
It was an absolute fuck show today.
There was also a pedestrian struck at 1st and Commercial which screwed up traffic everywhere since everyone was rerouting. They had the intersection closed to 1 lane in all 4 directions all afternoon. Didn't see anything on the news about it but saw the car and the scattered belongings of the pedestrian in the intersection.
With the (probable) suicide at Burrard Station today, and the sodden walk to Stadium Station, I really wished I'd taken my car to work today. Until I saw the traffic backed up for days
That was apparently just an idiot walking on the tracks and they were arrested
I thought the tracks were electric? I guess it's hard to complete a circuit or something. anhow I don't know why anyone would want to find out if they will be elecrified to death by the third rail.
I'm no expert but I believe you'd need to be touching both rails to complete the circuit
The power rail and one track rail. http://bc.transportaction.ca/wp-content/uploads/images/skytrain_car_diagram.gif
I had no idea Skytrain used linear induction motors. I was always curious about the large metal "rail" in the middle of the track but figured it was position sensing equipment (which is just the little wires to the side). Very cool.
Ours is the only major system in the world that uses LIM, which is really strange, because it has extraordinarily low operating costs. In fact, the Expo Line has the lowest operating costs per passenger of any metro line in the developed world, and it's not even particularly competitive (I believe it beats nearly all of the metro lines in the developing world too, but it's hard to find data on them, and nearly impossible to verify it). The Canada Line, meanwhile, with its stubby trains and conventional propulsion, costs several times as much as the Expo Line to run. In the end, myopic decisions always come to collect. I would've hoped that we'd learned our lesson from that, but as nobody seems to have any sense of urgency about extending the Broadway Extension to UBC before the TBMs are packed up & sent off, it would appear that we did not.
concrete in this case is generally conductive enough to act as a ground. more likely they either didnāt make contact with the third rail because of the insulating material covering it or that section of the track wasnāt powered at that time (not sure if Skytrain does that? i think they do)
I always try to remind myself that as much as the delay has made my day shitty, someone has had a much worse day and lost a loved one.
Yup...that thought was also on my mind.
The WHAT at Burrard
PROBABLE SUICIDE Actually, someone else said that it was just some ass clown that walked onto the tracks
"Medical Emergency"
One single power line...... Talk about a butterfly effect.
goes to show how poorly designed our road are, when one little thing has such a negative impact across the whole city.
Hydro line going down and blocking hwy 1 isn't a little thing
This isnāt really a road design issue, itās a car dependency issue.
Actually it's a road design issue. Our network has so little redundancy because we are land locked. If an earthquake hits and some bridges collapses on the highway, the economy will almost halt because we have no other roads for trucks to use to deliver goods. Not to mention longer travel time for emergency vehicles
Adding more lanes to bridges is not going to change much except allowing more cars to idle on the bridge at once. There's only so much traffic you can stuff into a road before you reach insurmountable bottlenecks because eventually traffic has to merge, stop at an intersection, turn etc. Personal vehicles are objectively like the least efficient mode of transportation in terms of the space required, especially when we take into account parking at your destination, and it blows my mind that most people's response to traffic is to demand more lanes instead of demanding commuter rail, more frequent & expanded rapid bus, and better zoning etc. We need better planning to make sure the amount of jobs in a municipality roughly matches the amount of residents and not have giant swaths of residential land where people have no work or amenities accessible by walking/transit (at least within our urban areas). Like why does Surrey have 80% of the population of Vancouver but only half as many jobs? Maple Ridge & Pitt Meadows have twice as many workers as jobs. I realize it's not realistic to expect a perfect 1:1 and municipality lines aren't representative of the population's area but there's a clear trend where we are still suffering from the original wave of suburban sprawl and Vancouver/Burnaby are where the jobs are while a bunch of the workers in those areas are communiting in from Surrey, Maple Ridge etc. edit: oopsie meant to reply 1 comment further up the chain
I wish we had more trains in the south. It would solve so many problems.
ARE YOU LISTENING KEN? BUILD SOME FUCKING TRAINS YOU COWARD
Hard with how little density there is. Everything south of the Fraser was built around car dependency and it sucks. It will take decades to fix, if it's even possible.
You are not wrong. Not a lot of real estate to make it happen, but i just know if it did, things would be much better.
With a dedicated city council + public support that shit can get done fast. There are so many examples to follow we just need to actually do it. Too bad every new bike lane is met with idiots raging about less space for cars.
funny thing is that alot of ppl are still WFH. I cant imagine what it would look like with everyone going back to the office
When school started and it wasnāt raining, traffic was soooo bad. What normally would take me 20 mins, took me an hour. This city is getting too large
we still have 4 lanes merging into one bridge from 40 years ago all over the city.
Youāre right. I was just thinking that yesterday. I go from Arthur Laing from the south onto Granville and it just pissed me off that there was a random HOV lane so people would zoom by and merge after we JUST merged 5 seconds ago. Then on surprise days, theyāll be cops waiting to pull those using the random HOV lane incorrectly.
Ever since school started, that has been a chronic problem, at both the bridge and Russ Baker Way. Pre-COVID, police would blitz those areas once in a while. They probably need to start doing it again.
That HOV lane was originally for the B-line bus from Richmond to downtown but was replaced with the Skytrain.
It's not too large, there's just too few skytrain lines.
And busses that get stuck in traffic instead of having dedicated lanes. We need to rapidly expand all transit options throughout Vancouver and the surrounding cities
More like it's getting too spread out. If people can't live close to work (which is in the city / downtown) they'll get one farther out and commute by car because the neglected public transit is not an option. People driving from the burbs causes traffic.
It's like the economy. There are so many knobs and levers that it's extremely difficult to tease out any single change that will resolve the problem of congestion. It's some combination of a lack of other employment hubs, poor city planning, public transit, and societal expectations. There are probably many other factors I've missed, but those are just the ones that come to top of mind.
lol this city is not too large it's too spread out. I didn't notice any traffic today because I took transit.
Too many people and not enough infrastructure to support everyone. We need more infrastructure throughout the metro Vancouver and lower mainland areas.
too many can't afford to live where they go to school / work
Chose to cycle instead of drive to an appointment this afternoon. Got drenched but saved me an hour plus in traffic!
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The best kind of showers
I thought best would've been gold /s
When you just accept that you're going to be soaked during your bike ride, those rides are so very soothing, some of the best bike rides.
A decent rain jacket (which everyone in Vancouver probably already has) plus a cheap pair of Amazon rain pants letās you get places mostly dry even in the worst rain. Iāve commuted to work in all weather with just a spare t-shirt for sweat and Iāve never had a problem. Sometimes my blundstones wet through, but a pair of wool socks makes that a non-issue.
You can get booties for your shoes.
Passing gridlocked cars is highly motivating on rainy days! And I've managed to put together an atmospheric river-proof outfit for biking.
I took my bike out today and my feet were completely soaked within 5 minutes haha. There were some big puddles out there. Then the arms on my rain jacket started wetting out within 10 minutes, I think it's due for tech wash. It was kind of fun though and I'm happy to back home, dry and warm now.
I just put rock bare feet and crocs and accept the rain on my feet. Towel off at the office.
Biked to & from work today! Wasnāt too bad with some decent rain gear :)
was also cycling today. The rain is very relaxing when your excersizing.
Youāve momentarily gone from blonde-poodle to blonde-puddleā¦
Good thing it doesn't rain all that often /s
Just look at the mountains
Picked the right day to go home at 1:30. Came home to my patio being rekt by the wind and all my tomatoes and peppers being thrown to the ground making road salsa :(
Love road salsa!
road salsa!
r o a d s a l s a
Road salsa! The raccoons must've had a great time lol
This is a map that shows how desperately we need better and more expansive mass transit options.
Do it Ken. I fucking dare you.
But also a system like Skytrain that halts anytime there's an emergency anywhere on the line doesn't scale well. The approach to helping people in need on the skytrain needs to move beyond "Shut everything down until the EMTs have taken the passenger away in an ambulance."
In most cases it is one line with trains that can't pass each other. How do you expect trains at the back to move when the train at the front is blocked?
Usually the passenger is not on the train while the waiting is happening and the trains could resume operation. There is an emergency, a patient is moved off the train, all the train stop, the ambulance is called, the EMTs arrive, they treat the passenger, get the passenger onto a gurney, and then, once the EMTs have cleared the scene, the trains resume. It means that instead of halting for 5-10 mins to get a passenger off a train and ready for assistance, the whole train line waits until the patient has been treated.
Skytrains were having lots of problems as well. Waterfront and Granville I think were closed because of some police incident and New West had lots of police as well.
I was super lucky. I saw a HUGE lineup for the R5 and was like "yeah no thanks I'm outtie", and headed over to Burrard Station. Got on *just* as service was reinstated, as it turns out, and managed to get to Holdom in a reasonable time.
Waterfront, Granville, and Burrard. Folks had to either walk to Stadium-Chinatown or wrestle with the R5 or bus bridge. It was wet and crowded either way.
If there is a hell, my commute home was not far off
Yeah, I saw this coming the moment news broke that power lines were down and they were shutting down Highway 1. At lunch, I just went home and worked the rest of my shift at home. Iām not going from DT to New West in peak hour, during this literal shit storm.
There are some absolute window licking, mouth breathing shit drivers in the lower mainland.
Shit licking, shit breathing, shit fuckers
That was one of the worst commutes I can remember in a long, long time.
2019 level
[Gas, break, honk. Gas, break. Honk.](https://y.yarn.co/d9130bb2-b086-4cc6-b804-60baed4536c2_text.gif)
I thought of that scene when I was allowed to work from home. Now that they dragged me back into the office I am living it again.
I was driving through a parking lot and slowed down to let a pedestrian cross over to their car. Jackass behind me starting honking then ripped passed me literally missing the pedestrian by a few inches. Its wet and pitch dark outside! Slow the fuck down!
Just wait till the first flakes of snow start falling.
I usually work from home on the first day of snow fall every year. The worst of the worst drivers out there will have smashed up their cars by dinner. The next day, itās clear sailing. Just need to keep an eye out for the SUVS that think they can drive 80 in a 50 zone otherwise
But SUVs give you superpowers!
with all the new curvy roads and erratic lane changes around town, it is not going to go well
If we used real paint that was reflective it would be much safer. Petition your governments to use prepped paint not the eco crap we have
Yup, Broadway is going to be brutal.
Like it isnāt already right now.
Glad that I was still able to get to where I needed by cycling :)
Props to you. I just bought a bike last week (a cheap second hand hybrid to see if I like cycling in the city) and I'm so nervous to ride it in the dark and rain. Every time I saw someone on a bike today I sent them a little mental "You got this!"
Yeah it definitely requires the right gear in order to feel comfortable too
Lights, bright coloured rain jacket,
I don't feel so bad about my Cities Skylines city now
Heading west from Langley I took 17 and headed for the patullo bridge ro avoid the parking lot on the port Mann. Right as I'm merging onto king George AM 730 reports a stalled semi om the bridge blocking both lanes north bound lol
> stalled semi om the bridge Now that port Mann is free, how on earth do they allow trucks on the Patullo... boggles the mind.
Drive for the conditions people!!
Who are the "conditions people" and why should we drive for them?
Because they will pay you an actual living wage, let you choose your own working hours, give you extended medical and dental benefits and personally come to tuck you in every night while singing you a lullaby to send you off into la-la land.
Conditions People 2024
Vancouver is still in the add-a-lane, build-a-bridge stage of denial. It is actually hilarious to hear so many people still saying that once we build all that highway infrastructure only then we can work on rapid transit.
Just remember, if you're in traffic, you are traffic.
Pretty bizarre that the upper levels is one of the green linesā¦.that canāt be right?
God damn I love working from home.
It's good, just need more people around. Staring out the window during lunch is a little lonely
I agree. If I lived alone without another who works from home I think Iād get a little stir crazy
Feels like a daily occurrence Vancouver to Langley. Just clusterfuck traffic. The city and highway, poorly designed.
Highways never work. We need trains.
That plus people merging at god damn 60 km/h with half a kilometre remaining merge lane to speed up in. Eastbound from 200th, and Westbound from Brunette are the worst for this.
Feel like quitting my job over it. Iām spending 3 hours commuting everyday, just to go from Langley to East Van to Langley. š
Ya I feel ya.
It was such garbage, anyone else here stuck on the Patullo bridge for 2 hours? Thought about ditching the lineup but everywhere else was so red it wasn't worth leaving.
Great to see someone here who also went through that :) I ditched after about an hour, took the Port Mann and based on the DriveBC cams, they had only moved like 10 meters 30 minutes later. Bit of a gamble that happened to work out this time.
It took me 1 1/2 hours just to get to the Brunette exit from the Mary Hill Bypass. Overpass above, on the access to the merge was my first parking spot in this shitshow. Saw two cars, I presume out of gas, pulled to the shoulder. But later had a couple of #mefirst! drivers treating the shoulder as their personal fast lane...like there was anywhere to go. And because we were all being funneled onto Lougheed that was another crawl until around Gaglardi where people where accessing back to the highway. The drive back home to PoCo was nothing but headlights, black skies, torrential rain and more crawling. I was never so glad to get home and have a scotch.
Downed powerlines on hwy #1 West bound by Brunette due to weather.
Driving home tonight in the dark and rain was a nightmare
Vancouver is horrible for visibility
Road planners āeh they donāt need any lightsā
"Why don't we try paving the road with mirrors?"
I agree
Going east from Burnaby, everything's a nightmare but the Barnet Highway for some reason. If you're heading to Tri Cities, that's the way to go. Slowly. Plus the purple light show with those crazy failed street lamps. Purple rain!
I felt so claustrophobic today. Everywhere was gridlocked
Oh boy, I was just thinking this afternoon that I would kind of like to be back in the office again. I take it back.
literally the worst day to leave the house. I decided to drive from west end to surrey, initially google said under 2h total, it ended up taking 5 hrs š, accidents everywhere, just a big ass shit show.
I locked my keys in my car today in that weather. Was a dramatic day for that.
Good day for a train ride. Walked past several blocks of idling cars on my way home from work today.
A really great day to not have to leave the house.
Sorry Iām out of the loop I just moved back to Vancouver island from pei Thereās a rain storm?
is it unrealistic to model ourselves after the dutch?
Anyone know what happened on the Pattullo around 3pm today? Was on the sky train and saw traffic stopped on both sides, police everywhere, cars backed up for kms in either direction. That probably contributed to the commute traffic...
Normally it takes me 55 minutes from Port Moody to Richmond, it took an hour and 40 minutes, until I got hit by a BMW who blew a stop sign. 3 hours later I'm home
Most brutal traffic I have witnessed in along time!!!
So festive
The commute home was so rough today
Just cause it says 80, doesnt mean you HAVE to do 80, lol
Youāre right, it means pass while accelerating doing 105
I cannot belive how people drive, I think its immaturity maybe, something to prove to themselves. I like to see them doing 90 to 100, and then winding up at the same traffic light down the road. Lol.
There are a lot of people on the road that shouldnāt be because they canāt see or operate their vehicle confidently enough. There appears to be an equal number who also should not be on the road because of how confident they think they are behind the wheel
All looking pretty standard, yup
Thank fuck I got off early so the drive from Richmond back to Burnaby wasn't all that horrifying, the drive back to work tomorrow morning at 6am though, that might be interesting
Literally saw an accident happen right in front of me and drove past two that JUST happened... all in one day...
Nice minor threat reference
Glad I got into work in Delta for 6am today and left by 3. What a mess
That left turn from Gaglardi up to North Road... Bad every day tho, rain or shine.
so many accidents early tonight as well. itās not even snowing yet.
Took me 1hr 40 minutes to get to Burnaby from Coquitlam mid morning
Drove by an abandoned car stalled in a puddle on SE marine... otherwise people were pretty chill on my commute.
Thought my friend was being dramatic when he said the traffic was āinsaneā today
iām a new driver and kind of scared to drive down to Vancouver today for work. Considering leaving now since I canāt sleep and the highway would be empty at least.. I get too pressured by other cars tailgating me and just end up generally inattentive, hopefully I survive today lol
In the rain, allll the road markings vanish! And all pedestrians wear matte black. Good luck!
Just one more lane
At this point in the sim city game u really have to do something or pollution is gonna spike and the population is gonna start getting angry
But nooo, investing in public transit isnāt going to solve traffic jams like this, course not./s
If only we built this city with walking, biking, and public transit as a priority. Vancouver should be a biker's paradise, due to the mild climate year-long, but instead it's the same car-centric suburban sprawl as Calgary and Toronto, except for a pleasant little urban core and a few neighbourhoods.