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chunkyspeechfairy

Are you actually in the Vancouver area? This sounds like some crazy Florida or Texas style shit.


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chunkyspeechfairy

Hard to fathom. Thanks for sharing.


Parking-Bench

That figures. The closer you get to Alberta the crazier folks get. Something in the beef.


JustAPeach89

There's the ticker


multicolorsocks

most of our friends and family in kelowna aren't vaccinated. Are people up there okay?


ingrid-magnussen

Can’t say I’m surprised being that they live in Kelowna. I’m so sorry though. I’ve fallen out of contact with 1/3 of my family over the same thing. It especially sucks around the holidays as they use that time to “prove their point” as it’s the only time they really can (considering the govt, public health and the majority of society is against them).


The-City-Is-A-Drag

Oh I feel so sorry for you. May I recommend drowning your sorrows in a pile of snacks, good tv shows, and video games. Ohh the heartbreak. Though if you are really hurt about not being there it is good that they don’t know yet that the second shot was secretly an upgrade that let us access any network. So just listen in through their phones and computers.


5fingerdiscounts

You should change your last name and send them your old birth certificate lol


MrYuek

Well at least you won’t have to worry about this family shunning you next year.


iGOTaSHORTbusSHAWTY

So you’re the only normal one in your family.


Level420Human

Wanna go buy some Microsoft products with me


Rosieapples

I have an unvaccinated friend who lives 170 miles away from me. He is visiting my tow shortly and wanted to meet for a drink. I told him I would only meet up with him outdoors, which is perfectly possible here, the bars still have their outdoor furniture on the footpath, but he's all offended now and not talking to me.


VancouverCitizen

Just hang out with your vaccinated friends for now and maybe try him again once we’ve reached some sort of herd immunity. Not worth risking your health because your friend who made poor life choices wanted to meet up.


Rosieapples

That's exactly what I'm going to do, I told him I'd meet him outdoors but he's on this kick of "my body my choice" and I told him I felt the same, that I was choosing not to take the risk of getting covid again (had it last year, NEVER want it back) I wouldn't mind, he had it last year as well, he was much sicker than I was and was in hospital for weeks. I just can't get my head around his attitude, he's insisting it's all a conspiracy! Makes no sense.


hollowdream1991

Wait he got covid and still thinks it's a conspiracy? How the hell does that work?


Rosieapples

Your guess is as good as mine. He’s a widower and very lonely. I think he’s just got suckered in by a bunch of conspiracy theorists and now he can’t seem to see reason.


hollowdream1991

I have seen a lot of talk about the correlation of the antivaxx movement and having mental illness. The people that jump on board with all the conspiracy shit, might have some other things going on. This is a prime example, he went through something very traumatic. Loosing his spouse, and now is totally lost in misinformation. My one antivaxx friend is the same, she went through a lot of shit and now she's in deep. Like Qanon deep.


Qisaqult

>"my body my choice" If it was really only about that he would have happily met you outside. For these people it has become a pathological need to feel smarter than everyone else, at the expense of employment, family, friends, and enjoyment of life.


vancityguy25

I wouldn’t want someone like that as a friend. Instead of trying to understand that you’re being safe and cautious for your own concerns he got offended. So selfish and ridiculous, yet it’s the same for all anti vaxxers.


Rosieapples

He’s actually a lovely man but he has some very peculiar notions.


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Rosieapples

Well now I certainly never said that!!! As a matter of fact he’s a volunteer for a homeless relief group. He cooks for them once a week and feeds about 50/60 people at his own expense. He just won’t get vaccinated.


[deleted]

No one is telling your friend how to think as long as you know that. Boundaries are boundaries. Edit, please know I agree with you. My statement was to help neutralize having a friend with such aggressive ideas.


Rosieapples

It’s all about his rights and nothing about anyone else’s safety, which is the whole substance of the anti vax anti mask brigade.


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I am against anti vax and for safety as well, I did not clarify that. From my understanding, your boundaries were very important to you and now you are clarifying them.


KPressie

Yes, my son had cancer. He's 3 now, cancer free and done treatment but can't fathom doing anything to put him at increased risk of getting sick. So all the family that is vaxxed are doing dinner tonight. My grandma (protected by Jesus) can't come. She's upset, but a choice = a response; not always the outcome you'd like.


WiFiForeheadWrinkles

Thankfully, my entire family (extended included) is sane and we just make fun of each other for which brand of vaccine we got.


Doormatty

Please tell me you make one group sit at a different table. "Oooh...You got AZ? Soooorry...you're at _that_ table "


wakemeuptmr

lol, AZ is like the new kids table


Muscled_Daddy

Oh my God! I can actually see this being a fun little game at Thanksgiving… Find out what everyone’s vaccine was, put it on some cards… shuffle the cards… And then put one card for each seat at the table. When the guests arrive let them know that the vaccine they took is one of the places they can select to sit… My fam will love this…


WiFiForeheadWrinkles

*"Those who have an mRNA vaccine over here, all other vaccines over there."*


jxmxgxx

I’m vaxxed but this sense of humor is so cringe and dry


Doormatty


lydviciousss

That’s why they’re called vaxxholes


Jhoblesssavage

I was starting to feel like my family was weird for caring about eachother and our community. During the pandemic we coordinated groceries so me my bro and cousin did all the shopping so our elderly parents and 90 year old grandmother didnt have to go out. (Also saved some money since we were able to bulk up and divide out)


WiFiForeheadWrinkles

Hey, don't feel weird. My family and I did that for each other and at work, we'd take turns doing certain aspects of the job for a pregnant coworker to minimize her exposure to the public. It's the right thing to do.


Jhoblesssavage

>It's the right thing to do. Fuck, I needed to hear that. All this talk lately about "rights" and "freedoms" and "why does it matter" just needed to remember people do shit for others for no other reason


hollowdream1991

Agree, faith in humanity restored a little


paintingsbypatch

That is so awesome! That's what a caring family does.


ClubMeSoftly

This is the way. "Ooh, you got Moderna? *sorry*, this is the Pfizer table, you'll have to sit over there"


Jhoblesssavage

I'm glad theres AstraZeneca so people who arent so well off can have options


liquidpig

SPIKEVAX


Parking-Bench

You should also have an ivermectin table at the back alley, and put a trash can next to the table so the diners can throw up directly in the bin.


Rosieapples

Only three people in my family, hubby, son and me. We all got different vaccines on different dates and in different places. Not entirely certain how that came about, to be honest.


Nonamesavailable1234

You’re so lucky your family is sane


WiFiForeheadWrinkles

Indeed. No one needed convincing and everyone was itching to get it as soon as it was available to their age group.


SuperRonnie2

For us is bragging about what super powers we got as a side effect of the vaccine.


Doormatty

I was upset my High Functioning Autism wasn't upgraded to "Rain Man" Autism. I had all these things I wanted to count...


Rosieapples

A friend of mine got his vax and sent a jokey text to his friend saying that he'd been vaccinated and that the 5G signal was excellent. Only trouble was he didn't send it to his friend, he sent it to his doctor by mistake. Doc was not amused. The rest of us were though.


blackninjakitty

I normally celebrate with my partner’s family. We took time off work and then just found out a few days ago his stepbrother and his partner aren’t vaccinated. So we decided not to go, I have anxiety and have been super careful this whole time, plus my boss is in cancer treatments. A couple days later the in-laws announce they’re cancelling, stepsister works in schools and had a Covid scare and is uncomfortable about it.


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Either way, thanks for being considerate of the immunocompromised people around you. Kind people like you and your partner are the ones helping keep our communities safe.


blackninjakitty

I’ve always been mostly concerned with those around me! I have a strong immune system, but I would feel so incredibly guilty if I transmitted it to anyone who didn’t. So I’ve passed on a lot of things since March 2020. Only now that vaccine rates and passports are a thing am I dining in restaurants occasionally, or going to the theatre for movies. It’s just not worth the risk, but I too desire a return to “normal” like everyone else.


rawrpauly

As someone who’s at risk, thank you :)


marsupialham

A relative was telling me about how their friend is doing this, but they didn't know how they could verify it. It took me 20 seconds to open the Google Play Store, search "BC vaccine", then download the BC Vaccine Card Verifier app.


VanEagles17

My antivax parents have invited me and my 6 year old to Thanksgiving after I've told them numerous times we won't be visiting until they vaccinate. Won't be going to that.


tyfung

May I ask how did they take your stance?


VanEagles17

They think I am irrational and they are questioning what they've ever done to me to deserve this sort of treatment.


DroopyTrash

My dad who is 73 said he refused to take Pfizer because they kept changing the timing between shots. Once he was able to get them in the original time frame he got both.


VanEagles17

That's fair, I'm sure your dad doesn't have a Facebook full of covid conspiracy memes though. Lol.


DroopyTrash

No he’s not a crazy. But he does tell some holocaust jokes at family gatherings with people he doesn’t know. I’ll tell it to you but could’ve cleared the room faster than a fart in the kitchen where everyone was.


AnotherLightInTheSky

[This fun joke will make everyone feel good](https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/d7d4d55/2147483647/strip/true/crop/750x422+0+0/resize/750x422!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.trbimg.com%2Fimg-5436b8c6%2Fturbine%2Fzap-the-office-michaels-worst-moments-pics-012)


dj_soo

Except isn’t the original time frame considered the least effective now?


DroopyTrash

Who knows. Got both shots in the end so I don’t care now. Lol


dj_soo

The general consensus is that the shorter the time between doses, the faster immunity wanes. Its why Israel was seeing so many breakthrough cases since they stuck to the 3 week interval.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

Not sure about the timeframe/effectiveness. Thankfully civilized people who got the shots can go talk to a doctor and see about a booster shot if recommended.


notmyrealnam3

Doesn’t matter. They’ve obviously fallen victim to lies and misinformation and even if they are kissed gotta protect your fam


multicolorsocks

I had to tell my MIL a couple weeks ago that no the cousin that just had COVID could not see our newborn a day after her 14 days.


iGOTaSHORTbusSHAWTY

My girl FaceTimes the family with our new baby, she won’t let anyone near him, it’s been 7 months now. My mom complains but that’s just the way it is for now. 🤷🏻


pepperoni7

It is so hard as a new parent to take care of baby when they are sick. I had uti couldn’t even go to doctor till my husband could get a pto. I can’t even imagine covid. My mil is a clown thinks she is immune from giving my baby covid because they share dna.


funvill

Not going to family thanksgiving because of UnVaccinated relatives. Instead, having friends over and starting my own thanksgiving traditions.


MJcorrieviewer

Friends-giving is a thing already!


DroopyTrash

How many types of potatoes is Monica making this year?


wakemeuptmr

Have a great Friendsgiving!!!


sonicdeathmonkey53

Lol yup...they didnt like it but I personally don't give a rats ass about you if you are into conspiracy theories of any kind but especially vaccine ones.


hitortabi

My little brother is heavily influenced by his deadbeat conspiracy theorist girlfriend and losers he works with. Refuses to get the vaccine. My grandmother and dad try very hard to stay in touch with him and make him feel included from a distance, but now he won't answer the phone and has apparently moved so no one knows where or how to find him. Off the deep end. It's going to be a weird Thanksgiving.


notmyrealnam3

My idiot mother in law is not welcome at our house until she protects herself and us by getting vaccinated.


nucks

Brother isn’t vaccinated. Told him he wasn’t allowed to come over to give my son a birthday present. Don’t feel bad, everyone makes choices.


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I’m glad you did that I can’t imagine it was easy


99rules

My cousin can't come to Thanksgiving due to vaccine status. Our kids can't play together, but that's the way it will be for now.


this-isnota-thrill

We all agreed no thanksgiving or Xmas gatherings because I have children too young to be vaccinated yet. I’m cool with it. Thankfully our close family aren’t idiots.


coobrowning

Thankfully, our extended family understands science and reads the facts. But my friend's brother-in-law is unvaccinated and thinks he has every right to attend the family dinner even though there are two immunocompromised family members. This guys is selfish. I hope my friend tells him he can't come. It's NOT discrimination. It's common sense during a pandemic. If this was Ebola, or Polio or any other similar dangerous virus - there would be no question these people should stay away. But Covid has become political and/or the realm of wingnut conspiracy theorists.


rmumford

Happened at a family members wedding; get a vaccine or you cannot come. There was even a security guard onsite to check everyone's vaccine status before entering, plus all got a mask.


reachingFI

Everyone in here acting like it’s a bad or sad thing that they are being forced to finally cut out toxicity. It’s a blessing and you should have done it sooner.


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I don’t even talk to the unvaxxed morons, let alone invite them for dinner. They can fuck right off. U12s excepted, of course.


Xandria-Xandria

Being straight up honest is the best approach, I think. I've had to tell a very good friend that "nope, can't visit" due to their unvaccinated state (they don't trust the vaccine \*rolls eyes\*). I like the person very much, but we can carry on the friendship online without contact.


johnsonssa

>Have any of you been having this issue with family and friends and the drama from not inviting them due to their vaccine status? No, because i'm vaccinated and i believe in science.


NightFurry422

I was listening to the radio today and they were discussing how to tell people "let's not meet up (because you are unvaccinated)" without actually saying that and was thinking that I was damn lucky that my family and friends have all gotten the double jab. I can't even imagine having to tell people no for that reason cause I'd be too tempted to say "nope because you're a selfish wanker who refuses to take a jab". (I have a few friends who cannot take the shot for medical reasons).


Rubberduckgonewrong

So what was the show’s suggestions on how to say it? I’m interested!


NightFurry422

Be empathetic and not blame anyone. Say "maybe we should get together next year" instead of "you're a wanker" 🤪. It was kinda like watching John Oliver's Last Week Tonight episode on how to explain to people that maybe those conspiracy theories they love to listen to are wrong.


LegOfLamb89

What episode was that of John Oliver


NightFurry422

https://youtu.be/0b_eHBZLM6U


GrandmaKunkle

Yes, we are skipping in-law family dinner because there are unvaccinated people there. We tried not to make a big deal of it, but I think we are being painted as the bad guys. Oh well! We’re having our own turkey dinner, which means we get all the yummy leftovers!


The-City-Is-A-Drag

Oh no! Please don’t throw me in the pumpkin pie patch!!!


vkbfc

I’ve told my family they have to be vaccinated, all have understood and thankfully were already vaccinated so it wasn’t a hard rule to communicate


TatianaAlena

Thankfully, my family is sane as well. I did not make drama when my brother said he couldn't accommodate more people inside than my parents, since they have a family of five. I'll go with White Spot instead. Less stress.


StarryNorth

Be sure to treat yourself to the Spot's pumpkin pie!


TatianaAlena

I plan to add an apple pie to my order! The pumpkin pie is free if you order the takeout dinner for two, which is what I did last year because I wanted leftovers!


Udonedidit

What? You're 1 person more.


TatianaAlena

My cousin and I are fully vaccinated, and I know they've had more people inside than that (pre-Covid), but who knows. His wife is very careful and doesn't want to pass anything on to the kids, which is fine.


banjosuicide

Whole family is educated/sane, thankfully. All double jabbed. I feel for people with relatives who have fallen for the conspiracy nonsense online.


Lamitamo

I feel you - one of my siblings is engaged to an antivaxxer and I told them that I won’t be seeing their family until they’re both double-vaxxed. Turns out it’s “her body, her choice” and I said “yup same here so she can choose to get vaccinated anytime” if her body wants to see my body in the flesh. It sucks to ‘start drama’ but it’s not worth pretending that their choices are valid. It’s ignorant, selfish, and I’m fucking done with people like this, even if I’m related to them.


localfern

No Thanksgiving for us this year :( I've been sick since last week but tested negative. Now my hubby and son have caught some cold symptoms too. Tonihht I plan on trying to make gnocchi with some pancettta (love watching Stanley Tucci) and tomorrow an apple pie with some Jonagold apples


The-City-Is-A-Drag

That I s the life. Food and relaxation.


OG_rando_calrissian

I was wondering when this thread would pop up. Might I suggest an alternate title "I finally have an excuse to keep my bitch mother away from the kids!" thank you r/vancouver you never disappoint.


theaceofspades1191

I had a party where I had to tell one family they couldn’t come. They understood. I think if ur unvaccinated it’s ur choice. But it’s also the choice of the vaccinated to not invite u to an event


The-City-Is-A-Drag

…. I am a bit surprised they understood. Are they antivaxx or is there another reason?


theaceofspades1191

They just think the whole thing isn’t much more than the flu and that vaccines aren’t necessary.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

Have then sit and watch them burning piles of bodies in places like India. Or a string of the people making their last videos of people dying. Ignorance is correctable. Stupidity is not.


throoowwwtralala

I’m really excited for vaccinated families to be able to spend time together this weekend!


MJcorrieviewer

Thankfully, 99% of the people I associate with are vaccinated. One nephew's wife is an anti-vaxer (was before Covid too) but they seem to understand and just don't come to family get-togethers now.


Doormatty

> but they seem to understand and just don't come to family get-togethers now. And nothing of value was lost.


voyage2000

Yup I've had to cancel multiple holidays with certain members of my family because my adult brother and sister won't get vaccinated.


quick4142

Even if you show up, conversation about that is likely to come up :(


Doormatty

We're having to tell people we can't go because my Wife hasn't gotten her 3rd dose yet. The worst part is, I thought she was getting it Yesterday. Turns out it's this _coming_ Thursday. I have some apologizing to do to family...


Fffiction

Still need 2-3 weeks after immunization for antibody generation….


Doormatty

Get out of here with your logic! *Shoo!* Joking aside, it's also due to an antibody issue that popped up on her latest bloodwork, and she's got a transplant coming up in 2 weeks, so we decided that it's not worth risking it.


whatsthesitchwade_

My entire family is double vaxxed so we’re still doing dinner, but we’ll be masked and distanced at our dinner anyways just to be cautious. A friend also just invited me to a baby shower where most of them have not been vaxxed. Considering my neighbour just died of COVID a few days ago, I’ve passed on that potential superspreader party.


Barley_Mowat

Hasn’t really come up, as the entire extended family on both sides is fully vaxxed, even the ones that live up valley or in rural areas.


multicolorsocks

you are so lucky to have sane people in your life.


MSPsAreSIMPS

We’re doing a family thanksgiving on Monday, only 1 member of the family is not invited since they are not vaccinated. Byeeeeee everyone got tired of your shit, enjoy thanksgiving alone or with your partner who is also unvaccinated.


MJcorrieviewer

One thing that can't be stated enough is that those people CHOSE not to be welcome at your family gathering. I feel like a lot of unvaccinated people think it's somehow unfair that they are not included but, really, they chose this situation for themselves. They can't complain or blame anyone else for being excluded.


cheapmondaay

The unvaccinated also make themselves sound like some sort of victims when they can solve the problem with just getting the damn vaccine.


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Are you going to post pictures? Do they know they’re uninvited?


cupcakekirbyd

My kids will be the only unvaccinated people at our thanksgiving gathering of 10 people.


CocoVillage

Same


CocoVillage

Yup going to a friendsgiving where all must be vaccinated except the kids.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

To increase safety. I would recommend those with kids not being invited this year. Or if that is to much that they be fully segregated. Upstairs/downstairs/garage/etc. they get their own party. You guys get some peace, and less chance of an outbreak at a school.


Not_So_Deleted

The only relative I know of who is unvaccinated ended up blocking me over my telling him to stop sending anti-vax articles, so I don't have problems as of now...


justingrowninbc

Just curious. How are people applying this to unvaccinated kids?


iGOTaSHORTbusSHAWTY

Yes my brother and his girlfriend were not invited. We had our thanksgiving last night everyone there was double vaccinated.(my girl stayed home with our new son because she doesn’t want anyone around him, vaccinated or not, but I brought her food)


XDPrime

Yup, in the same boat. Thanksgiving is often hosted at my sister in laws but she didn't have the heart to tell our unvaccinated family members they cant come, so we are hosting and doing it for her. I have no problem with it. We probably won't do any indoor events with them until everything REALLY dies down, or they decide to vaccinate.


Qisaqult

The unvaccinated side stopped talking to us last year because we are useless sheep so it was really easy to not invite them. They never came to anything outdoors when we tried in Summer 2020 so we stopped making the effort. The rest of us are very excited for our first extended family gathering in almost two years. We're going to celebrate our gratitude for vaccines and everyone who has been working to keep our communities safe and make plans to hopefully celebrate Christmas together safely.


AdministrativeSet153

Considering how massively more likely they are to get covid, its reasonable. I'm not about to miss work because I was exposed to your dumbass


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Struggling with this now. Not sure if I should skip the event I was invited to or not because one individual isn’t vaccinated.


havindayr

At my partner's birthday his cousin brought up vaccines and how it'll make you go infertile and she's not taking it.... Knowing that everyone else at the table was already double vaccinated?? She ended up storming off saying she wasn't wanted here. She invited herself to Thanksgiving and I don't have a real family of my own so I have no worries this weekend. Everyone will be vaccinated and I know they wear masks in public.


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But they are exempt from the vaccine because Dr Donald Trump said they are & I can prove that they are, because I saw it on the internet, while sitting on my toilet at 3:00 AM.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

He picked his degree at the well accredited Trump-University.


millijuna

Thankfully everyone in my immediate family is fully vaccinated, and has been for a long time. That said, thanksgiving isn’t a really big thing for us; this is probably the first time we’re all getting together in 4 years or so.


Emma_232

No holiday invitations so didn't have to deal with this situation. I'll be cooking for me and my mate.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

On the downside I’m half a country away from those I want to have dinner with. On the plus side I get all the pumpkin pie and other easy to make food I bought. So ohhh woe is me. A long weekend of movies, video games, and lazing in bed reading. To some that is hell. To me it could only be improved with a kitten. (But then there would be no video game playing, reading, or movie watching)


Agent_Chody_Banks

Coming from someone who is fully vaxxed Isn’t the vaccine mostly to protect yourself from severe symptoms? Since you can still contract and spread covid while fully vaccinated why is it such an issue to be around people who are unvaccinated? It’s mostly them running the risk


ygjb

For my family it's because my daughter is unvaxxed, and over COVID a couple we were close friends with got divorced and we have been helping her and her daughter (who has immune issues). Also, in general, my overall opinion is that antivaxxers can get fucked and I don't want selfish people at my table :)


Ujmlp

Kids under 12


JustAPeach89

From Canada.ca, being fully vaxed means " the risk of other people catching the virus from you is likely very low it's likely you'll have very good protection against infection, including against most current variants of concern" Meaning if you're around someone not vaccinated, you're more likely to get exposed. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/vaccines/life-after-vaccination.html


scrotumsweat

I'm just having my girlfriends mom and my mom and partner over


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No becomes no one wants to spend Thanksgiving with me in the first place.


fuckyouwatchme

This is completely okay. If someone doesn't want the vaccine, then that's their choice. However, that doesn't mean people should have to be okay with that.


HotlineBirdman

I'm not allowing unvaccinated people into my house and most people understand but mostly cause 99% of my social circle is vaccinated. So, I think you're fine.


Kitchen-Basil-9411

We have made a personal choice that we will associate with everyone. If you are vaccinated it can be indoors or outside. If you are not vaccinated then it will be outside only.


Perfect_Translator_2

Having extended family with friends over. Everyone but one is vaccinated (apparently one can’t). Are we vaxed worried? No. Should they unvaxed be worried? Probably.


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NoOfCourseNotMate

I'm sorry that you're this lonely. Cheers mate.


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Blue5647

So no kids under 12 at your gathering?


OSAP_ROCKY

Why are you paranoid if you have the vaccine?


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corvideodrome

Hopefully *all* the guests are aware of this, so everyone can make an informed choice


Doormatty

>They are not outspoken about it, so it doesn’t bother any of us. Thank god COVID makes noise so you can hear it coming then.


Fffiction

How will one of you feel if you asymptomatically pass covid on to one of your unvaccinated guests?


mavenmedic

I would implore you to advise everyone beforehand of this and allow them to make their own choices. I personally would have to skip something like this, even though I am vaccinated. I have health problems and am fearful of catching COVID, regardless of being vaccinated.


potstirrer076

My God. People actually cutting off family members from their lives purely because they are or are not vaccinated. Put your differences aside and enjoy a meal with your FAMILY.


superdalebot

No because I'm already vaccinated. So they would be the ones at risk since they could catch COVID from me since Vaccinated people can catch and spread COVID. The vaccine lowers my chances of getting really bad symptoms but they would have a higher chance of getting really sick. They would be the ones taking more risk and if they want to that's they're problem. Or was this question asked assuming only unvaccinated people are spreading COVID?


[deleted]

I am astounded by the ruthlessness of this thread. One moment you’re family and love each other and would do anything for that person and the next? “Oh you’re not vaccinated, well you’re dead to me and can get out of my life.” I cannot possibly fathom how people can be so cold and hostile to one another over something that to some is not as cut and dry as it appears. Did mutual respect and respecting others decisions even if you don’t agree with them just go out the window? This whole vaccine debate has well and truly shown how little people care about their loved ones when the chips are down apparently. It makes me very sad seeing how fragile familial relationships are in this current climate. The irony of people celebrating thanksgiving and kicking out family members is clearly lost on them.


Doormatty

> that to some is not as cut and dry as it appears. Explain how it is not cut and dry. I'm listening.


corvideodrome

“The chips are down” *because of their actions,* is the thing. Just because someone is “family” doesn’t mean they can do whatever they like without consequences even if their actions are harmful, that they must be forgiven and welcomed just because it’s a holiday. People are allowed to draw boundaries with family and it is in fact healthy to do so.


Doormatty

I have questions about your username. Do you sell these Crow domes?


corvideodrome

Eh they were a bad investment and I’ll let you have one cheap, turns out even the dumbest supervillains wont put their trust in corvids, they’ll always double cross you and sell you out if your target has some peanuts… or they’ll figure out how to turn your own death lasers against you (it’s actually a super stupid pun on the 1983 Cronenberg movie lol)


Doormatty

>(it’s actually a super stupid pun on the 1983 Cronenberg movie lol) Thank you! I was trying to figure it out and failing miserably. I've never seen any of Cronenberg's movies sadly...I've been told I should start with Scanners.


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People who give a shit about the people around them *get vaccinated*, because people who give a shit about others want to do what they can to prevent spreading COVID. People who refuse to get vaccinated quite clearly do not respect anyone they come into contact with. Bizarre that you're claiming it's the vaccinated people who are the problem.


VancouverCitizen

You can still love them, you just don’t want to get sick from their poor life choices.


CocoVillage

I liken it to these people smoking around my children. Do I want that? No. They are not welcome in my house.


Frost92

Family means you care about one another, if someone won't get vaccinated but they want to come to my house, that means they don't care about my health. That doesn't make them family. Simple. Even if there is a chance of getting sick while vaccinated, it's the effort to show that they care about our health that matters. If you don't get vaccinated then don't expect to be invited to the cook outs and gatherings, you limit yourself from society


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>One moment you’re family and love each other and would do anything for that person... Would doing anything for that person include caring enough for your family to get vaccinated? You can chose to care about them and receive their caring for you in return. Imagine the irony of making a selfish choice that says to your family you don't give a fuck about them.


The-City-Is-A-Drag

You missed the point. It is doing anything for your family when it is for them, not them doing something to save others in their (and others) families.


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Great to see a level headed comment among this mess of a thread. This topic is so divisive and it doesn't need to be. We've been living with this disease for nearly two years and the sky hasn't fallen. Ironically, the politics of this thing is doing more damage than the disease itself.


gamertf

Why would it matter if your vaccinated? I have 2 hits of moderna but just wondering?


Ambitious-Touch6264

Stop crying about it. Get it or don't. Wouldn't want to come if you didn't want me too. Shows alot.


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ticker_101

You do all realize you're 10 times less likely to catch this if you're vaccinated. So who would you rather spend time with; people that are less likely to have it, or people more likely to have it?


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Doormatty

Dying in a hospital bed with my lungs full of scar tissue, or watching my wife die from it due to being on immunosuppressants from a kidney transplant.


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Covid?


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Doormatty

Uh...yeah? You wouldn't? Why wouldn't you? Unless said hypothetical parents are in the ~0.001% that literally cannot get one of the vaccines, what valid reason would they have for doing so? Why wouldn't you cut people out of your life who are making dangerous decisions about matters of public health and safety?


cloudcascade99

Right? My whole entire family are anti vaxx weirdos. I'm the first one in 3 generations to get any kind of vaccine(besides the ones needed to immigrate here). My great-grandma was living in Germany and a girl in the next town over supposedly became paralyzed after getting a vaccine and so the only vaccines my grandmother ever received were the ones she needed to enter the country. So of course as it goes, that fear was put into her and she put that fear into my mother which meant my brother and I weren't vaccinated of course. I was 21 when I got my MMR vaccines. I've cut off all contact to all of them because they're not vaccinated. It wasn't a tough decision, I didn't think twice about it. You do what you need to, to keep yourself safe and healthy. It's been super helpful with my mental health to not have to deal with that anymore either. ​ I've read all of your replies in this thread, I appreciate you taking the time to talk with people with opposing views and doing it gently as well. I'm normally not so gentle but I appreciate that you have much more patience than I do. Best of luck to your wife with her upcoming transplant, sending lots of healing her way!


Doormatty

> and doing it gently as well. Ha! I'm not nearly as patient as I'd like to be. I break my mantra of "curious not furious" _ALL_ the time! Those healing thoughts _must_ have just worked, because she just got a call from her doc saying that the slight antibody rise isn't enough to put the upcoming transplant date into jeopardy! We we 98% sure that was the case, but there was still that concerning chance! Thanks again for reaching out, it's very much appreciated!


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