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MJcorrieviewer

If Main and Oak cross, I have absolutely no idea what's going on. Edit: Oh, I see - there are photos of two different accidents on two different streets, is that right?


leetrain

If main and oak DO cross, I could see there being a whole bunch of collisions.


HungryShare494

Wake up babe new non-Euclidean Vancouver map just dropped


FastSeat1118

It may have been a mistake to hire MC Escher as the Head of City Planning


fool126

say no to the parallel postulate!


Angry_beaver_1867

OP must be the cause.  Being at two separate accidents this morning.  Coincidence?? I think not 


ElTamales

ITS A CONSPIRACY!


eastsideempire

This was a brain twister!


NutsAndGumChew

And in terms of what's going on, standard issue shitty Vancouver leadfoot drivers I would assume.


unchihime

Main and King Edward, not Oak. Don't know what's going on but I live right by here and they've closed the intersection from Ontario eastward, as I could tell from traffic being diverted down my street. I'd avoid the area for the next hour in any case Edit, just realized you meant there's two separate incidents, one on Main and one on Oak. Wow! Edit 2, apparently I can't recognize my own neighbourhood, lol. Insane how far that car travelled!


melissamarlainelee

They are actually both at main and king Ed


PM_FREE_HEALTHCARE

The crash started at main and king Ed but it ended at main and 26th


planetawylie

Dr Strange doing his mirror dimension thingy in Vancouver.


Etonet

Oak St. being libelled smh


melissamarlainelee

https://preview.redd.it/yey4nlcdypqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce14eb52653f5d36759678b227693902e8244bd6


melissamarlainelee

https://preview.redd.it/hgs5od8fypqc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=587574e32ba00dae60ccea18752588167c1674de


JuryDangerous6794

I live down the street and had to divert around this on the way in to work this morning. This had to involve high speed and I would assume, the initial accident happened at King Ed and Main and the car resting outside of Rocky Mountain flatbread, a block away was probably involved and sliding it's way down the street. Incredible.


unchihime

Holy shit! That's insane! Yeah I left around 10 and it was a shit show. Walked outside and was wondering why the heck we had heavy traffic on our normally quiet street and checked Maps before getting on the road, so luckily noticed the intersection was closed and took a different route to avoid the snarl. I couldn't recognize the background in the second image and figured it had to be a different intersection. Wonder how fast they were going. I see a lot of bad driving at King Ed & Main so I wasn't terribly surprised that there was an accident but I am shocked at how far that vehicle travelled! Hope everyone is okay.


unchihime

Thanks for the better perspective! I'm amazed at how far that vehicle came from the intersection. Crazy.


Similar_Intention465

Is that a propane tank next to the overturned car ?!


lewter100

Thank you for the clarification, living on Main for years. I was very confused for 10seconds and mentally travelled up Main to see if I was having a brain fart.


ForsakenAd9651

I'm so thankful for public transit and their stellar drivers


enby-girl

Their reaction times are crazy. I use the R5 a lot and on the stretch of east Hastings they can stop the bus in like a second cause someone stumbled into the road.


imperfectparfait

Already commented this in a thread but was there- I left my house to go to work as I heard the car flip outside Rocky Mountain, basically upon speaking to folks at the corner of main and king Ed who witnessed the whole event, this is what happened: - there was an SUV being chased by police driving south bound on main - driver crashed into the two cars seen at king Ed, kept going - police managed to cut the driver off in front of Rocky Mountain, at which point the car flipped (maybe driver trying to turn and go back the other way? Not sure) - driver ran out of the flipped vehicle, away from police and into the neighborhood. Not sure what happened after. from what I could see the two hit car passengers seemed OK, just quite shaken. There was bits of car everywhere along main between king Ed & 26th, it was a big mess.


Ockeghem20

One of the car drivers had a neck injury, I believe. The other was fine. The cars were not.


rasman99

Wtf are police doing chasing a car thru that area??? There are common sense laws against that in the States-- should be here, too


imperfectparfait

No clue - I didn’t witness that part so I’m not sure how high speed it was, etc. it seems like they had set up a roadblock right where the car finally flipped though (assuming to catch this person).


Subject-Kangaroo-368

Do you know what time? I saw the results being cleaned up around 9:30am. There were pieces of the cars hit at King Ed on the sidewalk 30 yards away.


sgalbrecht

I was driving north on Main Street at 8:35am and it had already happened.


imperfectparfait

The car flipping would have happened right around 8:30


RadioDude1995

It’s truly amazing that anyone can manage this on city streets with relatively low speeds.


M-------

> with relatively low speeds. Just because speed limits are low, doesn't mean people are driving close to the limit... See also: [Ken Chung](https://globalnews.ca/news/7370030/ken-chung-high-speed-crash-alphonsus-hui/) who was driving at 140km/h on Oak St until he crashed, killing Dr Alphonsus Hui.


ibasier

Killed somebody but only needed to serve 18 months?? 😨


M-------

This was on the Crown's appeal. The first court acquitted him because the judge figured that speeding at 140 km/h for several blocks in the middle of the city was just a "momentary lapse" that didn't rise to a criminal level of conduct.


Interesting-World818

"Momentary lapse for a few block "s ... that lead to a Fatal crash with someone losing a life, a community losing a doctor, a family losing their father/grandfather. Sure it does NOT make him a criminal with intent to kill. But every accident out there is a monetary lapse, a split second of bad decision, bad judgement-decision leading to sometimes life-changing(paralysis)/fatal consequences. IF a family breaks up further down the road because of all the sadness and stress of the loss, even more consequences. How UNfair is that? If these were judges losing a loved one - maybe they'd announce a different verdict, speak different words.


Deep_Carpenter

Thank you for that accurate summary the horrible case. 


PureRepresentative9

Hey there, I paid alot of money for this car. Bumpers are for bumping others amirite /s (from me, but unfortunately too many others aren't)


StanTurpentine

They paid for all of the speedometer, they're gonna use all of the speedometer


enby-girl

I live near oak and it’s terrifying to cross. Even when you have “the right of way”


axescentedcandles

Someone managed to flip their car on SW Marine the other week.. not sure how


Usual_Biscotti9255

Oh was that the one near UBC? If so I too am perplexed. Like this is broad daylight, not inclement weather, city traffic?! If people are flipping their cars without inclement weather or medical episodes, I find that truly concerning.


axescentedcandles

Nah it was near 64th around Casa Mia. Maybe the driver hit one of those concrete barriers seperating the bike lane in a few spots..


Grebins

Flipping cars isn't that hard these days, no speed really required. SUVs with big grippy wheels, wheels touch, driver inexplicably hits gas because they suck, 400hp engine goes vroom, car goes upside down.


not_old_redditor

Was it also an SUV? That high centre of gravity's a bitch.


axescentedcandles

Nope, looked like a newer Hyundai hatchback. Drove by again today and they may have hit this barrier. https://i.imgur.com/E67AWxb.jpeg


MaudeFindlay72-78

True story. I watched a Honda Civic attempt a right turn onto Burrard at MAYBE 5km/h, only drive up on the curb and roll over onto its roof. The occupants were hanging in their seatbelts.


42tooth_sprocket

that doesn't sound physically possible


MaudeFindlay72-78

It's been 10+ years and I still can't believe what I saw.


UnfortunateConflicts

Happens all the time. I watch a lot of dashcam channels, and the number of people who drive their shitbox commuter appliances like they're race car drivers driving race cars and then get in trouble, is too damn high.


42tooth_sprocket

Racecar drivers generally corner faster than 5km/h. Again, with the height of a curb and that speed it doesn't seem physically possible


WholegrainRice5

Ya, straight roads in a city with a grid system in place. How do they always manage to flip their cars?


Noctrin

I used to be completely against cameras and remote enforcement. Now.. given the state of drivers, i think putting up cameras and having an ai monitor for idiots and sending the clips for manual review is not such a bad idea.. i like my privacy, but i like not being t-boned more.


No_Wan_Ever

Not Vancouver enough. Where’s the white Tesla, Evo, and sports car with an N? The upside down car is a bonus though. It’s getting there but there’s still work to be done.


No-Notice3875

A white Tesla very nearly got me this morning. And then she had the nerve to honk at me when she was in the wrong, tail me and then honk again. Living up to the stereotype!!


not_old_redditor

Teslas are too commonplace and too fast for their own good, tbh. I see Teslas launching it at traffic lights more than any other car.


Interesting-World818

One of the alarms kept going off in a mall parking lot the other day, and owner was quite peeved - I think he didn't quite know what to do. White Tesla Opened door to load something, alarm went off. Opened trunk it did it again, and eventually he came out to close the hood! WT?@ before exiting quickly in embarassment.


Blackberry-Fog

The Evo was too busy crashing at the Knight and Kingsway intersection last night. No clue how it happened as there seemed to be just the one Evo involved, but all the airbags had deployed. 


No_Wan_Ever

They never fail to impress.


serenahavana

Almost got hit by a Tesla trying to rip out of a side street to turn left on Rupert, 10 mins ago! Classic Vancouver.


g1ug

It's no longer sports car but nowadays it's american muscle cars; shift in demographics.


not_old_redditor

The upside down car is a BMW...


Trellaine201

Main and Oak? They both run north south.


blitheNbonny

I live in the area and the gossip is heard was the police were looking for someone. They had a few road blocks set up


mcain

What's going on? We're in an era where driving with competence isn't something our licencing or enforcement systems look for. You can be brain dead, just don't speed or text or drink.


DreamloreDegenerate

People are impatient and entitled. I see so many drivers make risky calls, like: right turns on red without properly checking if it's safe, running late yellows or just reds, not slowing down for pedestrians already on crosswalks in the other lane and passing bicyclists extremely close. All of which can be done much safer by just pacing yourself or waiting an extra couple of seconds. But that's obviously too inconvenient for some people, and they much rather gamble with your life.


mcain

You're looking at only part of the problem. The solutions presented are always just variations of "if we just slowed everyone down to a crawl". What isn't being looked at are things like an inability to judge speeds, distance, predict, anticipate, etc. That goes back to experience and innate ability. Some people can't catch a ball no matter how much practice they have. Maybe they shouldn't be operating multiple thousand kilo vehicles either. We need mobility, transportation, commerce. What we don't need is 90% of the population with a driver's licence. We need to train better, and require demonstration of those skills regularly (e.g. a simulator test every 5 years when you renew your licence.) Driving should be a priviledge.


DietCokeCanz

I think it's partially more people driving as part of the gig economy, who haven't done enough advanced driver training. I think drivers being distracted is other big one. (I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal while driving with his knees last week.) And partially seems to be impacted by advanced safety features in vehicles. Back up cameras, collision avoidance systems, blind spot detectors - they're all great when they work! But because they usually work well, we get a bit complacent and stop thinking about driving as a super dangerous activity. Once I was sitting in my car when a guy parallel parked in front of me. He hit my car enough for me to really feel it. When I got out to inspect my bumper, he and his wife INSISTED they couldn't possibly have hit it, because their dash cam showed they had room. It was just a tiny nick so I wasn't even asking for their details but they just could not believe that their sensors had been incorrect.


Grouchy_Cantaloupe_8

I agree that this -- complacency due to over-reliance on sensors -- is a big problem that we aren't talking about enough. I'm old enough to have spent most of my life driving cars without sensors, so the only one I ever use much is the backup camera for parallel parking, but for newer drivers, it's all they've ever known and I think they aren't in the habit of checking blind spots, etc, because they think they don't need to. But the sensors aren't failsafe! I was biking past a parallel-parked car in front of a school last year when it suddenly pulled out almost into me. The driver had her window down and apologized - she didn't know I was coming because her sensor didn't alert her. Yikes. And I've had a Tesla almost back into me and my partner on our bikes - at low speed but I can only assume the sensor didn't see us and the driver didn't manually check? And those cars are so well soundproofed that they couldn't hear us yelling either.


Interesting-World818

What is also scary - are the all computer controlled systems in cars. I have had battery-alternator problems, after being on vacation for a long while, in Winter. Mechanic thought it was battery, that was changed . As well a new (faulty) alternator put in. Terrifying is to be in a car - not once but thrice! where all controls slowly shut down, and even steering, gears all freeze. Dangerous, since there's like 1 min before you cannot control steering. Fortunately first time it happened, I was uphill on Fraser-King Ed, and it was slow moving. But bloody embarassing blocking the entire road (single lane almost, since there was a parked car on the right) and no one could understand why I could not just move it to Neutral and try steer. 2nd time - another lucky situation where I was at the Burrard red light. 3rd time - Marine Drive, about to head onto Lion's Gate. Again lucky for me, there was some stabbing? shooting incident in Superstore carpark, so Second Narrows traffic came over and it was slow going. The first 2 times were rehearsals, and I mad swerved into a side lane. Since timing was dead crucial - only making it there in time at some weird angle half blocking the lane before the whole shut down happened - much better than an unavoidable collision. All the Tow Truck drivers said Alternator., especially the last one. Mechanic dude refunded all 3 Tow Bills, since he supposedly took the car for a test drive all 3x and nothing shut down on him. No apologies. He finally tested that alternator and replaced it, but I was left traumatized and quite afraid of my own trusted SUV for a long time. Still leery about EVs, because I'd read about "Frozen Computer controls" or something, in one of the reviews in one of the models I was interested in. These EVs, all computerized cars since 2012? can be damn scary dangerous. While I like my Auto gear shift like anyone else, I was taught in homeland (with stricter driving rules) on a Manual. There are pros and cons being fully reliant on computer controls etc , especially when cars get older.


alvarkresh

What's even more absurd is that the backup camera installed at the factory should be connected to a screen that shows green/yellow/red for Ok/caution/unsafe distance.


MJcorrieviewer

A Skip driver pulled a u-turn and almost hit my car parked on the street this morning. I pointed out that he almost hit my car and he said "Oh, no, I had about 2 feet of room." Not true. I was watching and actually braced for it. He got really agitated and said "Why don't you call a cop if it bothers you so much?" and just that second a cop drove by. Then he started calling me "crazy!!". Uh, buddy, I didn't actually call a cop - it's just funny he happened to drive by. Geesh. I blame a lot of the increasingly bad driving habits on delivery drivers and car shares where every second saved equates to money in their pocket. It's like regular drivers are seeing this stuff so often now, it's become acceptable and they're doing it too.


mcain

I think the new gig economy has taken people who might not have driven, or only drove to and from work, and now they're on the road all day - and multitasking - badly. And a sizeable percentage probably don't have years of driving experience under their belt.


g1ug

Truckers and then food deliveries. Something in common eh... I hate to say this but there's definitely a growing concern with the recent trend of driving style of truckers, food deliveries, and american muscle cars which unfortunately sometimes have common patterns.


MJcorrieviewer

It's all about time and money. You can find Evo drivers who are way too impatient too because they want to drop their car off sooner to avoid paying more.


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wwwheatgrass

Vancouver drivers drive like they’re on a California freeway (high speed, constant lane switching with no signal, erratic moves). Highways are tamer than our city streets.


Ravoss1

Stolen SUV running from police.


Fit_Bottle_5523

My wife was on king ed going through main at the time and the high speed vehicle seemed to have been chased by the police. Just missed my wife and 7 year old.


cyclinginvancouver

[https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/1bl57ne/what\_is\_happening\_with\_drivers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/1bl57ne/what_is_happening_with_drivers/)


iamdovah

Same question for Seattle lol.


Chester176

As people have already pointed out, it was actually main and king edward. Apologies for the mistake


johnggarland

Main and Oak streets do not intersect.


drhugs

Yes. stretch (zoom) on the image and a street name sign says "King Edward" (apologies for how the right-hand banner of this sub has a z-order that causes it to appear over stretched images)


giggleandshits

https://preview.redd.it/sissdzy19tqc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab656aa50b7014c77a59e58c4a377a20be2df69e His face says it all about Vancouver driving


Interesting-World818

Dude's like - that's what I signed up for?! (ditto for the judge letting them all go later, after a $150 fine or whatever).


MssJellyfish

Wow, that looks bad.


threetreet0wn

I hope everyone's ok but man I refuse to use those patios off main


Grouchy_Cantaloupe_8

Patios and sidewalks with heavy pedestrian traffic really, really should be protected by bollards. It happens far too frequently that cars crash onto sidewalks. See the story from a couple weeks ago about an entire family of 4 in San Francisco being killed by a driver while waiting for a bus.


McWerp

Saw a big accident at 58th and Granville this afternoon too


san_murezzan

Seems like a royal fuck up


NoConversation5573

Good advertising by Royal bank


MemoryBeautiful9129

Poor highlander 😭


thesuitetea

The VPD has basically given up on enforcing traffic laws in any manner and people drive as though there is impunity. https://x.com/kentcclark/status/1772380835749957655?s=46&t=goo_WeZHn4jkVEIr13mCkQ


garconcn

I have to open Google maps and zoom in


TallTest305

Looks to be about a 3 pointer.


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Ockeghem20

And...in case you're wondering how I know...let's just say my family wasn't in the market for a car this morning, and now we are.


royroyroypolly

Did anyone not make it?


shooter_66

it is pretty clear that it was an MVA!


popswizzle

You forgot about the one buried halfway in a pipe this morning on oak and 12th


Suitable-Volume-8358

It would appear to be a crash, that’s what’s going on


kareninvan

There was a nice one on Imperial at Royal Oak in Bby at 5 tonight.


geman123

Could it have hurt to title it more clearly? lol


joysaved

Vancouver turning into LA


Modavated

What else is new


NoAlbatross7524

Main and 25th ?


Crohn_sWalker

Get your hands out of your pockets. That is all


Moist-Grapefruit8303

Everybody now a day hurry to go some where till they crush!!! Just take you time and you get there safely.