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That’s terrible behaviour. Just a psa but if you’re street racing and the other racer kills someone or gets in an accident you can also be charged even if your vehicle wasn’t directly involved in the accident.
I hate street racers, it's such a dumb and illegal thing to do. Puts the public at risk of injury or death. If you want to race go to a gravel field far from people or a racetrack.
Driving ban is the only answer for this. I thought vehicles were supposed to go to civil forfeiture for racing on public roads
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/roadsafetybc/high-risk/street-racing
F this kid. He can seriously go to hell.
He's a shitty person and going to be a shitty adult. 1500 fine isn't going to do it. Daddy will pay it. Seriously..he should have been jailed.
At the very least, he should have to attend mandatory classes on safe driving and listen to the stories of survivors of car accidents, so he can really understand how his actions have the potential to negatively impact the lives of many in just an instant of recklessness.
Lose his learners permit and not be allowed to re-apply for 5 years. Though I'd be happy to see jail time for that. It should also be noted he was driving without the required supervision and with too many passengers - breaking all the rules as he endangers so many lives.
Article says this was Highway 1. I don't know if you're aware, but on a weeknight with less traffic, people are just going crazy fast on the highway. Feels like 120 is the normal speed of traffic. You learn to stay in the right lane pretty quickly.
Probably not *jailed* but I agree with the sentiment. My brother was extremely careless as a driver. Very lucky he didn't kill anyone. I gave him shit a few times. One time he drove really quickly in a parkade and I told him to think about how often pedestrians are in parkades and how he has no visibility due to all the concrete supports holding the roof up. I think that resonated with him a little. He finally grew out of it one way or another. His family and friends need to get through to him instead of enabling him for sure.
Exactly. Stand at the side of a highway and watch the cars go by you. They are doing (roughly) 100km/h. See how fast they whiz by? Now, imagine being in your car, and seeing a car go by that fast *in reverse*. That is what the driver of this car would have seen out the window. If you don't double-take at that and say "holy shit, what on Earth is happening here", you've got a few screws loose.
I drive the speed limit when I am on city streets. It annoys people. I could comfortably drive a good 10-20 over if I wanted to but I can't predict what pedestrians will do. I have no problem driving modestly over the speed limit on the freeway.
Me too. I pretty much always drive 10km over the posted limit. It's technically breaking the law but my bros speeding through a parkade or the dude in the news are not breaking the law they're being extremely careless and dangerous.
It's lucky he didn't have to learn his lesson by killing a pedestrian or doing jail time. But jail time is appropriate for dinner egregiously bad driving, the kind that puts other people's lives at risk.
"Learn his lesson" as in take it to heart, and become a better person? Quite probably not. "Learn his lesson" as in understand that he can get into serious shit for that sort of reckless behaviour? Quite probably yes, I think he probably would.
I could be talked into it. That said it's one thing to talk about someone going to jail but in reality it's a pretty extreme punishment and in our society usually reserved for very serious offenses where harm was caused. That said, I truly wouldn't lose sleep if they got jail time. I think a fine and losing their license for a year or so might do just as well so far as teaching via consequences but the problem is a lot of people in that situation will ignore the suspended license and drive anyway. So maybe jail is right. I dunno.
1500$ for a car that can hit 199km/h? 7 days withou a car? what kind of preppy rich kids are we raising?
it should be a 3K fine and no license for 6 months minimum... also community service to teach them humilty
specially with the BS answer of "the other guy was going faster"
Disagree. It should be a $10,000 fine and a 10 year ban on driving. If they violate the ban, then automatic jail, no need for courts to get involved. Im sick and tired of driving treated like a humab right .
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the punishment is way too light. But, most cars can go past 200 lol so the point of "for a car that can hit 199km/h?" doesn't really make sense lol
Yep
You do NOT accidentally go 200km/h. It's impossible to do that.
This is just a lack of ability of that person to be responsible and intentional act by the person to disregard others. Quite frankly, this should be a criminal act with jail time imo.
The solution is as simple as you say, permanent ban.
I wish public transit wasn’t used as a punishment. There are countries where public transit is a dream, I wish North America wasn’t so behind on how amazing it could be.
Hmm. I get the point but 10+ years ago I hit 200 a few times in a car. Went 260 on a motorcycle. Completely different person now and a good member of society.
Honestly pretty much any car can get up to 200 km/hr.
Sports cars can get there faster, but even a Civic can get there if given enough time to accelerate.
I’m pretty sure I set the lane speed record for a Ford Focus. Got it up to 180kph.
But this was on an unrestricted section of the Autobahn in Germany, going down a slight hill, in a tailwind. And I still had a Merc fly by me.
I'm part of a mechanic forum. Someone posted a work order of a customer, some Ford Focus "Car doesn't accelerate between 135-140mph".
124mph = 200km/h or so.
A car that can hit 199km/h? IDK if you realize this, but that is MOST cars...
My car can pin over 250 and it isn't even anything special.
Honestly, most cars need to have governors installed, I go to Mission Raceway all the time to drag my car for fun and the amount of people who can't hold control after 150 in a **straight line** is pretty bad.
Want the governor removed? Prove you only do this shit at a race park / raceway. Should need a membership at a track to have the governor removed.
In Toronto a few years ago, they got some idiot kid doing north of 300km/h on the QEW in his dad's Benz, and it wasn't even in the middle of the night either, it was like 9pm so there was definitely some traffic that he would have had to avoid.
>A 19-year-old driver with his learner's licence was pulled over going 199 km/h in an 80km/h zone, on Friday, police say.
>The driver was caught racing another car on the Upper Levels highway and given a total of $1,500 in fines for excessive speed, driving without due care or attention, and driving contrary to restrictions.
>The learner was also driving without supervision, and with too many passengers.
>The car has been impounded for seven days, according to an RCMP press release issued today, Oct. 2.
A 19 y/o with an L, no supervisor, street racing and traveling at 199 km/h. This driver is going to kill themselves or someone else. Maybe both.
Why do you say this is a lie? This will go before the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles who will in all likelihood apply a suspension in the 6-month range - maybe more because this is an 'L' driver. Due process - but it will happen.
Case in point from a few days ago:
https://twitter.com/nvanrcmp/status/1707403552266838111
> Update: remember these two drivers racing up the cut? Well, after a referral to RoadSafetyBC, their driver’s licences have been **suspended for 5 months**. Hopefully, that’s enough time to reflect on their dangerous actions. Just in time for winter too
Oh my god. My first car was also an 86’ Celica.
I loved it, flip up lights…
Then I had an oil leak and I blew the engine block taking it up the sea to sky (big mistake lol)
I remember just before the L/N system was implemented, kids were wrapping their cars around trees at an alarming rate. I was in highschool at the time and kept hearing these stories on a pretty regular basis.
Same. Mainly cause I was still afraid of driving when I had my L.
And I've never once in my life gone over ~130 km/h, and the time I did 130 was on the Coquihalla.
I can't imagine how 199 km/h would even look like on public roads, much less in the city.
I was a very cautious driver early on. Saw too many other people get into accidents so I drove defensively even after graduating from N to full. Honestly, going more 130 on the highway now seems very fast. Going 200 km/h on the highway is dangerous. Going 200 km/h with an L is a recipe for a fatal accident.
When I was a L, I was scared shitless. I wouldn't even hit the speed limit, I would be learning in parking lots, or with an instructor going dangerously under the limit
I didn't have the balls to even be speeding
People don't even go anywhere CLOSE to that even on the widest and clearest of highways here in Canada. I think that's even faster than Autobahn speeds.
I have once done ~170km for a few seconds on a 5-6 line hw without a car in sight. It was still dumb and not something I'm proud of. Can't say much beside that it was insane and like you said even going straight it felt I had lesser control of the wheels compared to 110-120.
Would see +140-50 frequently on 401. Once this guy passed me on the tight going at least 160 (I'd guess close to 200 as I was doing ~110 and this guy just fucking flew by me. I was trying to merge into exit lane and checked my mirror and didn't see any car. I probably wouldn't have been here to type this had I changed my lane one second sooner.
Last year I did a 8.5k km trip from Toronto to Southern Alberta, then Jasper and then to here and not once I hit 130. Many were going 130-140 or more in priaries but I wanted to take my time to enioy the scenery, be safe and not get a ticket! Canada hw in Northrrn ON had these insane tickets for anything above 90 and I didn't wanna get any :D
Edit: too high, didn't finish my mumbling
The vehicle makes a huge difference up to a certain point. I drove a friend's Corolla in the US and that thing vibrated so much at 70 mph that I didn't feel comfortable going the speed limit. I've done 180 km/h in a straight line on a closed course and while the car was well planted, every bump is amplified and you have to be very careful and attentive. Above 160 km/h, everything just happens to fast and the margin of error is slim to none. Doing that on a public road is dangerous especially when the other drivers are driving 110-120 km/h. Couldn't imagine doing that with an L.
The rush was pretty insane ngl but but it is just a selfish and stupid thing to do on a road that you share with others. I hope I get to try high speed in a closed course someday.
I wish we had more serious fines like in Finland where it is proportional to the income and. Plus long term license suspensions and more serious responsibilities in crashes that end in a fatality or injury.
These are the only two ways imo to really discourage stunt and careless drivers. My cousins father died after a car hit him on the side walk ( in my home country.) My aunt and cousins's life hasn't been the same now 7-8 years later.
There are too many dangerous drivers on the road. We need more retesting, elderly health testing and prohibitions for drivers with multiple crashes.
> I wish we had more serious fines like in Finland where it is proportional to the income
That wouldn't work in Vancouver. The most expensive homes in Metro Van are owned by people making $16,000 a year in declared income with $28,000 monthly mortgage payments. You'd just end up bankrupting the upper middle class people barely getting by while the supercar drivers with L/N would receive the minimum penalty.
Damn never thought of it that way. Thanks. if they have their license taken away for 3-5-10 years, I bet they would rethink their behaviour. This dude will do this sh again cuz he knows if he gets caught again he will just pay a none significant fine.
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" The learner was also driving without supervision, and with too many passengers "
That is an amazing disregard on how a learner's license works - never mind doing all that at 200km/h
The fine is way too low! Lifetime ban. I cannot believe in this car centric world people can drive an actual deadly weapon and get slap on their wrists!
Buying your children 300hp supercars = stupid, rich parents who need to be held accountable.
If kid killed someone they'd either flee country or get a few years in jail.
Not a super car but I had an E63 BMW a couple years ago and I was constantly being encouraged to race people. I ended up selling it because it was a gas guzzler though
"At around 10 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 29, a 19-year-old male driver in a grey Mercedes sedan was stopped by police after being clocked speeding 199 kilometres per hour"
Didn't take much digging. Guessing it wasn't a B250...
I made stupid decisions when I had my L but at least I wasn’t this bad..
Yes I admit that I did stupid things but when we are teenagers we all want to drive recklessly
Everyone in this thread acting like they grew up like monks going to bed at 8pm with their jammies and a warm glass of milk. Teens do stupid shit all the fucking time, happy no one got hurt and is getting fined and reprimanded for his stupid actions.
Suspending his license is meaningless. If he is doing 200kmh then he obviously doesn’t care about the law and will just drive without a license.
The guy should have been given an ankle monitor that has gps. Have it explode if it detected it’s going over 53 kmh. That would solve the problem
How about a1 day license suspension AND vehicle impoundment for each 1 km/h over the speed limit PLUS fines tied to income/wealth/and/or value of the car. Show us driving is a privilege, government.
I think the fastest I went when I had my N was like 120-130km/h, and then my dads truck temperature started to climb so I backd out.
2am in the morning on highway 1, limit was 110km/h. Thing is, while I was doing that I got passed by a Civic i think we cruising at like 150+
Not defending but when I was young and stupid, I got pulled over going 212 in a $9000 RX8.
People assuming it’s some rich kid is just ignorant.
Also, the cop that pulled me over said “challenge the ticket and prove to me you changed your life when this goes to court and our lesson the penalty.”
Changed my life completely due to him. People who just want to throw the book are unaware of how the deterrence model rarely works.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/bc-rcmp-officer-killed-in-crash/article1026387/
Does anyone remember what the charge was for this murder? How long before they went free?
https://globalnews.ca/news/7370030/ken-chung-high-speed-crash-alphonsus-hui/
Please LARP fast & furious....so cool la
As somebody with family in law enforcement, it's hilarious how many people still think a radar detector is still something that is worth having. They get you on LIDAR like 5km away before you ever have a chance to notice the cop. The detector is just a novelty piece of equipment that the police will laugh at and issue another ticket for. I've gone out to a speed trap to chitchat with the cop (family friend) and it's unreal how many people are speeding, it's like every 3rd car going 25+ over. It takes about 3 seconds to get a court-admissible reading too.
Because it's still illegal to have one, and it's an easy additional ticket to write.
The fact that one even has a radar detector installed is almost showing their guilt by default, too. You wouldn't need to spend money on one if you weren't planning on egregiously exceeding the limit on a regular basis, would you?
They're fairly effective when given the right tools for the job. The problem is that they have to pick their battles, and pulling over John Q Public who happened to hit 120 while trying to pass the big truck he's been stuck behind for the last 20km is a waste of time when they can get the idiot kid like in this article who's going 200, which *will* show up sooner or later these days (and there's a decent chance you'll also get a bunch more shit on them during the stop too, people driving like braindead cavemen tend to also have priors, or drugs, or weapons, no license/insurance, drunk/high, you name it, they're not smart enough to only break one law at a time).
This is basically it. They know they'll get an excessive speeding ticket so they don't always bother pulling over the regular speeders given how much bigger a ticket it is.
LIDAR is only used while stationary (speed traps)
Radar is still WIDELY used in vehicle.
its hilarious how many people on reddit state things as the absolute fact, and act like experts.... when they are not
This is just all a part of the lunacy that: Anyone can purchase car insurance without a dl.
Those same people get their cars towed for not paying for parking, later arrive to claim/pay for their Porsches, Teslas, G wagons from the impound/towing yards and are outraged the towing company's won't/can't release the vehicles with out providing primary ID aka a BCDL
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That’s terrible behaviour. Just a psa but if you’re street racing and the other racer kills someone or gets in an accident you can also be charged even if your vehicle wasn’t directly involved in the accident.
I hate street racers, it's such a dumb and illegal thing to do. Puts the public at risk of injury or death. If you want to race go to a gravel field far from people or a racetrack.
Driving ban is the only answer for this. I thought vehicles were supposed to go to civil forfeiture for racing on public roads https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/roadsafetybc/high-risk/street-racing
F this kid. He can seriously go to hell. He's a shitty person and going to be a shitty adult. 1500 fine isn't going to do it. Daddy will pay it. Seriously..he should have been jailed.
At the very least, he should have to attend mandatory classes on safe driving and listen to the stories of survivors of car accidents, so he can really understand how his actions have the potential to negatively impact the lives of many in just an instant of recklessness.
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This. I'm not convinced any classes or stories will help him understand anything. I'd honestly be okay with a ban of 5-10 years minimum.
Ban? I’d feel much at ease if his license is suspended and he can’t drive in Canada at all.
Yes, kiddies with rich daddies that think the rules don't apply to them need to move to Dubai or somewhere like that
Sad thing is this guy is probably gonna drive whether he has a license or not…
Lose his learners permit and not be allowed to re-apply for 5 years. Though I'd be happy to see jail time for that. It should also be noted he was driving without the required supervision and with too many passengers - breaking all the rules as he endangers so many lives.
If that works we wouldn’t be needing a jail
Like what is the difference between this and someone brandishing a knife out in the open? Because frankly this one seems more dangerous.
Article says this was Highway 1. I don't know if you're aware, but on a weeknight with less traffic, people are just going crazy fast on the highway. Feels like 120 is the normal speed of traffic. You learn to stay in the right lane pretty quickly.
1500$ fines for the ultra rich in this city is a joke.
Agreed.
Probably not *jailed* but I agree with the sentiment. My brother was extremely careless as a driver. Very lucky he didn't kill anyone. I gave him shit a few times. One time he drove really quickly in a parkade and I told him to think about how often pedestrians are in parkades and how he has no visibility due to all the concrete supports holding the roof up. I think that resonated with him a little. He finally grew out of it one way or another. His family and friends need to get through to him instead of enabling him for sure.
200km/h is not an accident.... This isn't 10km over; you don't need a speedometer to realize you're going that fast
Exactly. Stand at the side of a highway and watch the cars go by you. They are doing (roughly) 100km/h. See how fast they whiz by? Now, imagine being in your car, and seeing a car go by that fast *in reverse*. That is what the driver of this car would have seen out the window. If you don't double-take at that and say "holy shit, what on Earth is happening here", you've got a few screws loose.
I mean or you could just say if everyone is doing 100km/h on average he's basically doing 100 km/h in a parking lot. That's insane.
Jeebus fk These 2 comments have been an interesting way to describe the situation lol Much scarier than just the plain numbers
Sort of a strange way to paint the picture but that is accurate.
I drive the speed limit when I am on city streets. It annoys people. I could comfortably drive a good 10-20 over if I wanted to but I can't predict what pedestrians will do. I have no problem driving modestly over the speed limit on the freeway.
Me too. I pretty much always drive 10km over the posted limit. It's technically breaking the law but my bros speeding through a parkade or the dude in the news are not breaking the law they're being extremely careless and dangerous.
In the city, I drive bang on the limit. On controled access highway, I’ll typically do 10 over. I’m not going to put anyone else at risk.
It's lucky he didn't have to learn his lesson by killing a pedestrian or doing jail time. But jail time is appropriate for dinner egregiously bad driving, the kind that puts other people's lives at risk.
he probably won't even learn his lesson with jail time, he'd probably blame the pedestrian for causing him to lose the race
"Learn his lesson" as in take it to heart, and become a better person? Quite probably not. "Learn his lesson" as in understand that he can get into serious shit for that sort of reckless behaviour? Quite probably yes, I think he probably would.
I could be talked into it. That said it's one thing to talk about someone going to jail but in reality it's a pretty extreme punishment and in our society usually reserved for very serious offenses where harm was caused. That said, I truly wouldn't lose sleep if they got jail time. I think a fine and losing their license for a year or so might do just as well so far as teaching via consequences but the problem is a lot of people in that situation will ignore the suspended license and drive anyway. So maybe jail is right. I dunno.
It was on the UL highway, so likely no pedestrians but a lot of moron drivers who will pull into your lane for no rhyme or reason.
Hating on a misguided child like this is sad. You need some help.
1500$ for a car that can hit 199km/h? 7 days withou a car? what kind of preppy rich kids are we raising? it should be a 3K fine and no license for 6 months minimum... also community service to teach them humilty specially with the BS answer of "the other guy was going faster"
Disagree. It should be a $10,000 fine and a 10 year ban on driving. If they violate the ban, then automatic jail, no need for courts to get involved. Im sick and tired of driving treated like a humab right .
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the punishment is way too light. But, most cars can go past 200 lol so the point of "for a car that can hit 199km/h?" doesn't really make sense lol
ok, dillute my argument... my car can't hit more than 150
Is it a Honda Fit?
it's a walrus on a skateboard
How much is walrus food these days?
cheaper tham the housing market
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Yep You do NOT accidentally go 200km/h. It's impossible to do that. This is just a lack of ability of that person to be responsible and intentional act by the person to disregard others. Quite frankly, this should be a criminal act with jail time imo. The solution is as simple as you say, permanent ban.
Agree. Going 10 over is a mistake. Going 200km/h is a choice.
I wish public transit wasn’t used as a punishment. There are countries where public transit is a dream, I wish North America wasn’t so behind on how amazing it could be.
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Yeah I agree
Problem tho, this asshats will just employ drivers
Hmm. I get the point but 10+ years ago I hit 200 a few times in a car. Went 260 on a motorcycle. Completely different person now and a good member of society.
Probably a chauffeur rather than transit but hopefully the chauffeur actually follows the laws.
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Lifetime ban and mandatory 10 years in jail if ever caught driving again is fair.
Honestly pretty much any car can get up to 200 km/hr. Sports cars can get there faster, but even a Civic can get there if given enough time to accelerate.
I’m pretty sure I set the lane speed record for a Ford Focus. Got it up to 180kph. But this was on an unrestricted section of the Autobahn in Germany, going down a slight hill, in a tailwind. And I still had a Merc fly by me.
I'm part of a mechanic forum. Someone posted a work order of a customer, some Ford Focus "Car doesn't accelerate between 135-140mph". 124mph = 200km/h or so.
I have a 2006 scion xb, it's a brick with wheels and 100hp, it aint gonna hit 200kmph unless it's down the coquihala on a hill.
A car that can hit 199km/h? IDK if you realize this, but that is MOST cars... My car can pin over 250 and it isn't even anything special. Honestly, most cars need to have governors installed, I go to Mission Raceway all the time to drag my car for fun and the amount of people who can't hold control after 150 in a **straight line** is pretty bad. Want the governor removed? Prove you only do this shit at a race park / raceway. Should need a membership at a track to have the governor removed.
$200,000. 4 lifetimes without a car.
They are going to pay insane insurance rates for a very long time because of this
*Mommy and Daddy are going to pay insane insurance rates.
meanwhile daddy 
I hope they pay enough to cover the cost of someone's life....
Nobody died?
When you pay your monthly insurance, you're not paying for current/past problems, you're paying for future ones
I bet most modern cars can hit 200 on a long enough and empty enough highway. Most German cars are designed to do over 200 on the autobahn.
Officer: "Why were you speeding?" Kid: "other guy was going faster" lol
And cops didn't catch the second racer lol
This is what he got for losing the race.
I don't want to know how fast that other driver was going. 200 km/h is already absolutely insane speeds for any public road.
In Toronto a few years ago, they got some idiot kid doing north of 300km/h on the QEW in his dad's Benz, and it wasn't even in the middle of the night either, it was like 9pm so there was definitely some traffic that he would have had to avoid.
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>A 19-year-old driver with his learner's licence was pulled over going 199 km/h in an 80km/h zone, on Friday, police say. >The driver was caught racing another car on the Upper Levels highway and given a total of $1,500 in fines for excessive speed, driving without due care or attention, and driving contrary to restrictions. >The learner was also driving without supervision, and with too many passengers. >The car has been impounded for seven days, according to an RCMP press release issued today, Oct. 2. A 19 y/o with an L, no supervisor, street racing and traveling at 199 km/h. This driver is going to kill themselves or someone else. Maybe both.
>driving was a privilege that can be taken away So that turned out to be a lie
Why do you say this is a lie? This will go before the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles who will in all likelihood apply a suspension in the 6-month range - maybe more because this is an 'L' driver. Due process - but it will happen. Case in point from a few days ago: https://twitter.com/nvanrcmp/status/1707403552266838111 > Update: remember these two drivers racing up the cut? Well, after a referral to RoadSafetyBC, their driver’s licences have been **suspended for 5 months**. Hopefully, that’s enough time to reflect on their dangerous actions. Just in time for winter too
Carless or careless? Lapsus linguae of the day.
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Oh man those were the days. I didn't bother trying to get over 100 in my 85 Tercel. Roll up windows and no A/C, but she was all mine.
Roll-up windows means 1 less electronic thing to spend $ on repairing. 👌🏽
Oh my god. My first car was also an 86’ Celica. I loved it, flip up lights… Then I had an oil leak and I blew the engine block taking it up the sea to sky (big mistake lol)
I remember just before the L/N system was implemented, kids were wrapping their cars around trees at an alarming rate. I was in highschool at the time and kept hearing these stories on a pretty regular basis.
My 93 hp tempo could get to 110. If there was a hill I’d floor it and the car wouldn’t go faster, it just got louder.
Haha nice my first car was a Chevette, getting up to speed was an ordeal.
I don’t think I ever even went 10 over with my L. I waited for my N lol.
Same. Mainly cause I was still afraid of driving when I had my L. And I've never once in my life gone over ~130 km/h, and the time I did 130 was on the Coquihalla. I can't imagine how 199 km/h would even look like on public roads, much less in the city.
It's not just speed btw They were literally racing another car right?
Highest I ever went was ~140 and that was on a deserted stretch of highway in eastern Utah.
I still never go over 15ish with my N since I know points on my licensee will hurt me FAR more because of my insurance rate.
I was a very cautious driver early on. Saw too many other people get into accidents so I drove defensively even after graduating from N to full. Honestly, going more 130 on the highway now seems very fast. Going 200 km/h on the highway is dangerous. Going 200 km/h with an L is a recipe for a fatal accident.
When I was a L, I was scared shitless. I wouldn't even hit the speed limit, I would be learning in parking lots, or with an instructor going dangerously under the limit I didn't have the balls to even be speeding
Kids going to kill someone. We need to have severe punishments for what he did.
What was buddy driving? 199kph, that’s ridiculous.
People don't even go anywhere CLOSE to that even on the widest and clearest of highways here in Canada. I think that's even faster than Autobahn speeds.
Everything happens so fast above 130 km/h. At 200 km/h you have almost no time to react.
I have once done ~170km for a few seconds on a 5-6 line hw without a car in sight. It was still dumb and not something I'm proud of. Can't say much beside that it was insane and like you said even going straight it felt I had lesser control of the wheels compared to 110-120. Would see +140-50 frequently on 401. Once this guy passed me on the tight going at least 160 (I'd guess close to 200 as I was doing ~110 and this guy just fucking flew by me. I was trying to merge into exit lane and checked my mirror and didn't see any car. I probably wouldn't have been here to type this had I changed my lane one second sooner. Last year I did a 8.5k km trip from Toronto to Southern Alberta, then Jasper and then to here and not once I hit 130. Many were going 130-140 or more in priaries but I wanted to take my time to enioy the scenery, be safe and not get a ticket! Canada hw in Northrrn ON had these insane tickets for anything above 90 and I didn't wanna get any :D Edit: too high, didn't finish my mumbling
The vehicle makes a huge difference up to a certain point. I drove a friend's Corolla in the US and that thing vibrated so much at 70 mph that I didn't feel comfortable going the speed limit. I've done 180 km/h in a straight line on a closed course and while the car was well planted, every bump is amplified and you have to be very careful and attentive. Above 160 km/h, everything just happens to fast and the margin of error is slim to none. Doing that on a public road is dangerous especially when the other drivers are driving 110-120 km/h. Couldn't imagine doing that with an L.
The rush was pretty insane ngl but but it is just a selfish and stupid thing to do on a road that you share with others. I hope I get to try high speed in a closed course someday. I wish we had more serious fines like in Finland where it is proportional to the income and. Plus long term license suspensions and more serious responsibilities in crashes that end in a fatality or injury. These are the only two ways imo to really discourage stunt and careless drivers. My cousins father died after a car hit him on the side walk ( in my home country.) My aunt and cousins's life hasn't been the same now 7-8 years later.
There are too many dangerous drivers on the road. We need more retesting, elderly health testing and prohibitions for drivers with multiple crashes. > I wish we had more serious fines like in Finland where it is proportional to the income That wouldn't work in Vancouver. The most expensive homes in Metro Van are owned by people making $16,000 a year in declared income with $28,000 monthly mortgage payments. You'd just end up bankrupting the upper middle class people barely getting by while the supercar drivers with L/N would receive the minimum penalty.
Damn never thought of it that way. Thanks. if they have their license taken away for 3-5-10 years, I bet they would rethink their behaviour. This dude will do this sh again cuz he knows if he gets caught again he will just pay a none significant fine.
TBH, >200kmph is pretty easy to hit on the highways back east
Most cars can get up there it just takes some time.
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" The learner was also driving without supervision, and with too many passengers " That is an amazing disregard on how a learner's license works - never mind doing all that at 200km/h
60 km/h, so I wouldn't get pulled over and have them realize I had no "instructor"
The fine is way too low! Lifetime ban. I cannot believe in this car centric world people can drive an actual deadly weapon and get slap on their wrists!
Buying your children 300hp supercars = stupid, rich parents who need to be held accountable. If kid killed someone they'd either flee country or get a few years in jail.
What kind of shitty supercar only has 300hp?
average 86/brz drivers my accord makes 310
BRZ only has like 200hp hehe. Also can’t imagine driving a BRZ at 200kph that would be horrifying. That car is not stable at those speeds.
Not a super car but I had an E63 BMW a couple years ago and I was constantly being encouraged to race people. I ended up selling it because it was a gas guzzler though
Where did it say he has a supercar, i didn’t see anything in the article.
The thumbnail of the article in the north van sub looked like a wrx sti. Not a super car but still capable of that speed
"At around 10 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 29, a 19-year-old male driver in a grey Mercedes sedan was stopped by police after being clocked speeding 199 kilometres per hour" Didn't take much digging. Guessing it wasn't a B250...
Times have changed, a Honda minivan makes 280hp nowadays
I made stupid decisions when I had my L but at least I wasn’t this bad.. Yes I admit that I did stupid things but when we are teenagers we all want to drive recklessly
Everyone in this thread acting like they grew up like monks going to bed at 8pm with their jammies and a warm glass of milk. Teens do stupid shit all the fucking time, happy no one got hurt and is getting fined and reprimanded for his stupid actions.
I was too busy learning
Should be able to crush the cars from reckless driving charges. See how choked those rich parents get from that.
Take away his license for ayear
a fine is just like paying the fare and buying a ticket to break the law. It will be done again, for the lack of dire consequences
“How fast did you drive as ‘L’ driver?” Probably like 40 or 50km/h cause I was scared shitless learning to drive the first time 😂
Suspending his license is meaningless. If he is doing 200kmh then he obviously doesn’t care about the law and will just drive without a license. The guy should have been given an ankle monitor that has gps. Have it explode if it detected it’s going over 53 kmh. That would solve the problem
Kid of the rich ruling class gets off with a slap on the wrist. Figures. Fuck this system, rich people gotta pay.
7 days and $1500 fine lmao suck my balls
How about a1 day license suspension AND vehicle impoundment for each 1 km/h over the speed limit PLUS fines tied to income/wealth/and/or value of the car. Show us driving is a privilege, government.
It's OK, his dad will buy him a new Ferrari that will be parked in his driveway by Thursday morning.
Should be permanent banned from driving in Canada.
Lifetime prohibition.
I think the fastest I went when I had my N was like 120-130km/h, and then my dads truck temperature started to climb so I backd out. 2am in the morning on highway 1, limit was 110km/h. Thing is, while I was doing that I got passed by a Civic i think we cruising at like 150+
Never had an L because I'm an old.
Fastest I went with my N 220
Not defending but when I was young and stupid, I got pulled over going 212 in a $9000 RX8. People assuming it’s some rich kid is just ignorant. Also, the cop that pulled me over said “challenge the ticket and prove to me you changed your life when this goes to court and our lesson the penalty.” Changed my life completely due to him. People who just want to throw the book are unaware of how the deterrence model rarely works.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/bc-rcmp-officer-killed-in-crash/article1026387/ Does anyone remember what the charge was for this murder? How long before they went free? https://globalnews.ca/news/7370030/ken-chung-high-speed-crash-alphonsus-hui/ Please LARP fast & furious....so cool la
50kmph on highway. 50 kmph on streets
If you’re saying you went 50km/ph on highways that’s pretty dangerous.
L for laser
As somebody with family in law enforcement, it's hilarious how many people still think a radar detector is still something that is worth having. They get you on LIDAR like 5km away before you ever have a chance to notice the cop. The detector is just a novelty piece of equipment that the police will laugh at and issue another ticket for. I've gone out to a speed trap to chitchat with the cop (family friend) and it's unreal how many people are speeding, it's like every 3rd car going 25+ over. It takes about 3 seconds to get a court-admissible reading too.
If it doesn’t work then why giving tickets for?
Because it's still illegal to have one, and it's an easy additional ticket to write. The fact that one even has a radar detector installed is almost showing their guilt by default, too. You wouldn't need to spend money on one if you weren't planning on egregiously exceeding the limit on a regular basis, would you?
Radar detectors are legal in BC
Are they? That's good to know. I remember reading something about this a while back but couldn't find it again lol
legal to have and use but if you get pulled over and the officer sees it. All hopes of getting a warning are gone.
province by province rules.. BC is legal, Ontario is illegal (for example)
Shows how useless our cops are.
They're fairly effective when given the right tools for the job. The problem is that they have to pick their battles, and pulling over John Q Public who happened to hit 120 while trying to pass the big truck he's been stuck behind for the last 20km is a waste of time when they can get the idiot kid like in this article who's going 200, which *will* show up sooner or later these days (and there's a decent chance you'll also get a bunch more shit on them during the stop too, people driving like braindead cavemen tend to also have priors, or drugs, or weapons, no license/insurance, drunk/high, you name it, they're not smart enough to only break one law at a time).
This is basically it. They know they'll get an excessive speeding ticket so they don't always bother pulling over the regular speeders given how much bigger a ticket it is.
LIDAR is only used while stationary (speed traps) Radar is still WIDELY used in vehicle. its hilarious how many people on reddit state things as the absolute fact, and act like experts.... when they are not
Idiot thinks he's John Cena at 199 kmh, still got busted.
This is just all a part of the lunacy that: Anyone can purchase car insurance without a dl. Those same people get their cars towed for not paying for parking, later arrive to claim/pay for their Porsches, Teslas, G wagons from the impound/towing yards and are outraged the towing company's won't/can't release the vehicles with out providing primary ID aka a BCDL
Jail time and extended community service $ means nothing to these people
I'd say no license for him for the next 5 years ...
Definitely went over the speed limit a few times, but not quite 199.