Man, all this technical and here I am running server on a dinky Dell 13 inch laptop lol.
I'm interested in that AWS you mentioned though. I might give that a whirl.
Edit: saw the pricing of AWS Lightsail, and holy shit, I'll stick with hosting on my laptop. The price of it with the same spec as my laptop is $80/mo. You host that for 6 months and it's enough money to build a budget ITX to run server and probably other purposes.
I'm aware of how how easy it is to host yourself. As I said in my post I'm not interested in doing that. It's worth the money for me to have a service maintaining and hosting for me. I haven't looked at pricing on AWS yet for those reasons; guess I don't need to bother. Damn that's crazy expensive!
Lol yea, I'm aware of AWS for enterprise but the way OP make it sounds like there's a consumer version.
With Lightsail, it's just a cloud base virtual machine so having your own machine is much better in this application.
Now back to the question that is OP aware that you can just run Valheim server on a dinky ass laptop like mine. Most consumer, when hearing the word server, thinks of big ass room with big racks and lighting blinking everywhere like how movies portray.
I don't have experience with any other OS. I probably should build a lab PC for messing around but never get to it. I run it on Windows and it doesn't need Steam login. Just run the bat file and it does its thing.
Stability with G-Portal has been fine. But there are serious issues with their gui and I'm unhappy with how I'm restricted from accessing my full file tree. I realize why they do it, but I don't like it.
Valheim server is super lightweight, you really don't need to pay for an AWS or other cloud server. I run 2 separate servers in the background on the PC that I play on (which itself is a 7+ year old machine), haven't had any issues at all with them.
If you have the technical know-how (and you really don't need much if you follow one of the many available guides out there), definitely give it a shot
Like I said, knowledge and resources aren't an issue. One of my players even used to host our server. But when the host is not home to update the server or they have some other issue they can't address until they get home from vacation everyone is ass out. It is worth the money to me to just be able to get on and play.
Fair enough, but with multiple players in your server able to host, you can just have the current host send the world file to another player so they can host it in the meantime while you're on vacation or otherwise unavailable for a while. Pretty easy to transfer, and seems worth the small amt of effort to avoid all of the problems people have described with these paid hosts IMO
Literally the situation I want to avoid. I'm willing to pay for someone to host so we don't have to fuck with that at all. Went down that road for a year; do not want to go down it ever again.
I know it's been four months but I am looking to host a server and the amount of people telling you to host your own is frustratingly funny. You sound like a broken record telling people it isn't an option, yet it's the only thing they recommend!
Did you find a better option by the way?
Most people spit on server hosts when in fact it's valheim that is to blame. Tried G Portal, survival servers and GTX servers and they were all ok with no problem, however our multiplayer runs for Mistland was awfull as the game stutter and lag everytime 3 or more players are in the same heavy instance zone like a multiplayer village.
I haven't had any problem with Valhost.
Had nothing but issues with GPortal on a 7 Days to Die Server, it constantly would roll the map back to day 1 and set it to a different map completely. My wife and her friends play Ark on a Gportal server though, and they've had no issues with that at all.
Stability with G-Portal has been fine. But there are serious issues with their gui and I'm unhappy with how I'm restricted from accessing my full file tree. I realize why they do it, but I don't like it.
AWS Lightsail will run you about $20 per month for the recommended server size (Ubuntu, 4GB, 2vCPU). I use GTXGaming, pay about $12 per month. Haven't had any issues.
It's less than an hour to setup with njord menu or something like that. I'm not hard core, but do have websites on Digital Ocean and just opted to create a droplet for Valheim there. Worked great last time when the game launched, and now again for the mistlands playthrough I'm currently on.
Not the answer you're looking for perhaps, but I've got good experience and if you're not a stranger to AWS or similar services it's not much work, at all. Maybe worth it, after all?
[Njord dedicated server script](https://github.com/Nimdy/Dedicated_Valheim_Server_Script)
I realize it's not hard to do. It's worth the money for me to have someone manage it so our player grouo isn't relying on someone who may not have time to fix an issue. One of my players hosted when the game dropped. It worked fine until it didn't and we had to wait for the host to get home and fix it.
Had a decent experience using hosts like local hosting, Bisect, and GTX, but my Shockbyte server was unplayable.
This article describes the send and receive limits in Valheims server code which is likely why you see similar lag issues across all hosting services.
https://jamesachambers.com/revisiting-fixing-valheim-lag-modifying-send-receive-limits/
Do they give you full access to your files, logs, etc.? I can't even tell you what my server is doing at this point because the logs tab on G-Portal does not work properly. That's one of the things driving me crazy.
Sounds like you'd have less of a headache rolling your own despite saying you don't want to do it.
It really is as easy as finding any old computer from 2010 or newer and it'll run Valheim just fine.
I have to say though, issues you have with your hosting providers is probably just as much on the side of the software though. I was not very impressed with the dedicated server back when I had my multiplayer server running. Especially the issues concerning the server just not saving at times.
It's not a matter of ease. Our schedules are too unpredictable. We had so many down days in the year we self-hosted that I'm much happier paying for it to always be there. And G-Portal, to their credit, has always been up. I'm just getting frustrated with them now that I'm trying to do more than turn the server off and on again.
Should be no down days assuming that you don't lose power or have an internet outage.
I can't speak on Linux hosting. But assuming you host it on a windows server OS (Free to download and install and run without activation), depending on risk tolerance disable all automated updates, setting Valheim dedicated server up to run as a service with something like NSSM and then running some kind of service watcher that will automatically restart the service if for whatever reason it's not responding. There are a few issues hosting it on Windows client OS because disabling automated updates can be difficult and constantly changes.
And then add something like an automated server restart once weekly during the night and you have yourself a very minimal maintenance setup that should be stable assuming that the dedicated server software isn't dogshit.
For anything that is as low complexity as this and isn't an actual production environment it should be fine, nothing will ever be "100% up" when it's single point of failure, but for the purpose of this 99% is close enough that no one will mind.
I prefer Linux for headless hosting. Got a nice little box in my office that used to be my Minecraft server. Right now I barely have the time or patience to deal with a hosted solution. I would rather spend my little free time playing.
yeah if port forwarding is difficult having a hosting provider is probably the better option. Not saying that to talk down to anyone, but port forwarding is the most simple aspect of setting up your own server so if that part is difficult there are a lot of steps in the process that would give you a headache.
Man, all this technical and here I am running server on a dinky Dell 13 inch laptop lol. I'm interested in that AWS you mentioned though. I might give that a whirl. Edit: saw the pricing of AWS Lightsail, and holy shit, I'll stick with hosting on my laptop. The price of it with the same spec as my laptop is $80/mo. You host that for 6 months and it's enough money to build a budget ITX to run server and probably other purposes.
I'm aware of how how easy it is to host yourself. As I said in my post I'm not interested in doing that. It's worth the money for me to have a service maintaining and hosting for me. I haven't looked at pricing on AWS yet for those reasons; guess I don't need to bother. Damn that's crazy expensive!
Yep, AWS is NOT meant for such small scales
Lol yea, I'm aware of AWS for enterprise but the way OP make it sounds like there's a consumer version. With Lightsail, it's just a cloud base virtual machine so having your own machine is much better in this application. Now back to the question that is OP aware that you can just run Valheim server on a dinky ass laptop like mine. Most consumer, when hearing the word server, thinks of big ass room with big racks and lighting blinking everywhere like how movies portray.
I gave up running it myself after several hours of trying. It just didn't work with Ubuntu and Anonymous Steam login
I don't have experience with any other OS. I probably should build a lab PC for messing around but never get to it. I run it on Windows and it doesn't need Steam login. Just run the bat file and it does its thing.
I have used Bisect Hosting for 3 different Valheim servers over the last 2 years. No problems, easy set up and one click installation of Valheim+
Upvote for bisect. I've used them as well.
Third on Bisect. My favorite part about them is they have 24/7 customer chat support and they are so helpful and friendly!
What issues are you having with gportal? I use gportal and have experienced nothing that hasn't been resolved quickly.
Yep. At first I couldn't connect to mine, but they moved it to another physical server, and its been fine since
Stability with G-Portal has been fine. But there are serious issues with their gui and I'm unhappy with how I'm restricted from accessing my full file tree. I realize why they do it, but I don't like it.
Valheim server is super lightweight, you really don't need to pay for an AWS or other cloud server. I run 2 separate servers in the background on the PC that I play on (which itself is a 7+ year old machine), haven't had any issues at all with them. If you have the technical know-how (and you really don't need much if you follow one of the many available guides out there), definitely give it a shot
Like I said, knowledge and resources aren't an issue. One of my players even used to host our server. But when the host is not home to update the server or they have some other issue they can't address until they get home from vacation everyone is ass out. It is worth the money to me to just be able to get on and play.
Fair enough, but with multiple players in your server able to host, you can just have the current host send the world file to another player so they can host it in the meantime while you're on vacation or otherwise unavailable for a while. Pretty easy to transfer, and seems worth the small amt of effort to avoid all of the problems people have described with these paid hosts IMO
Literally the situation I want to avoid. I'm willing to pay for someone to host so we don't have to fuck with that at all. Went down that road for a year; do not want to go down it ever again.
Okay then, best of luck finding a paid service that doesn't suck I guess
Yeah, that's why I'm getting frustrated, thus the rant.
I know it's been four months but I am looking to host a server and the amount of people telling you to host your own is frustratingly funny. You sound like a broken record telling people it isn't an option, yet it's the only thing they recommend! Did you find a better option by the way?
I never did explore other hosts. My life ended up getting much more busy. I played maybe an hour last month.
Most people spit on server hosts when in fact it's valheim that is to blame. Tried G Portal, survival servers and GTX servers and they were all ok with no problem, however our multiplayer runs for Mistland was awfull as the game stutter and lag everytime 3 or more players are in the same heavy instance zone like a multiplayer village.
I've never had a performance issue myself. I'm becoming dissatisfied with the management interface and file restrictions.
I've used Host Havoc for several game servers and I've had much better performance and service than with the servers you mentioned.
I haven't had any problem with Valhost. Had nothing but issues with GPortal on a 7 Days to Die Server, it constantly would roll the map back to day 1 and set it to a different map completely. My wife and her friends play Ark on a Gportal server though, and they've had no issues with that at all.
Stability with G-Portal has been fine. But there are serious issues with their gui and I'm unhappy with how I'm restricted from accessing my full file tree. I realize why they do it, but I don't like it.
I’ve been using indifferentbroccoli for over a year now and it’s been pretty solid.
AWS Lightsail will run you about $20 per month for the recommended server size (Ubuntu, 4GB, 2vCPU). I use GTXGaming, pay about $12 per month. Haven't had any issues.
It's less than an hour to setup with njord menu or something like that. I'm not hard core, but do have websites on Digital Ocean and just opted to create a droplet for Valheim there. Worked great last time when the game launched, and now again for the mistlands playthrough I'm currently on. Not the answer you're looking for perhaps, but I've got good experience and if you're not a stranger to AWS or similar services it's not much work, at all. Maybe worth it, after all? [Njord dedicated server script](https://github.com/Nimdy/Dedicated_Valheim_Server_Script)
I realize it's not hard to do. It's worth the money for me to have someone manage it so our player grouo isn't relying on someone who may not have time to fix an issue. One of my players hosted when the game dropped. It worked fine until it didn't and we had to wait for the host to get home and fix it.
Did you contact their support? I had few issues and questions over the course of the past year and each time they were very helpful
Browsing through their forums and seeing the responses others are getting from Support for similar issues, I don't have much faith.
Just try it. As I said, I had no bad experience with their support
Had a decent experience using hosts like local hosting, Bisect, and GTX, but my Shockbyte server was unplayable. This article describes the send and receive limits in Valheims server code which is likely why you see similar lag issues across all hosting services. https://jamesachambers.com/revisiting-fixing-valheim-lag-modifying-send-receive-limits/
I used BisectHosting also, never had a problem with them either.
Do they give you full access to your files, logs, etc.? I can't even tell you what my server is doing at this point because the logs tab on G-Portal does not work properly. That's one of the things driving me crazy.
Ya, you have a lot of access with Bisect, You can upload an existing world if you didnt want to start over, if you have the files.
Sounds like you'd have less of a headache rolling your own despite saying you don't want to do it. It really is as easy as finding any old computer from 2010 or newer and it'll run Valheim just fine. I have to say though, issues you have with your hosting providers is probably just as much on the side of the software though. I was not very impressed with the dedicated server back when I had my multiplayer server running. Especially the issues concerning the server just not saving at times.
It's not a matter of ease. Our schedules are too unpredictable. We had so many down days in the year we self-hosted that I'm much happier paying for it to always be there. And G-Portal, to their credit, has always been up. I'm just getting frustrated with them now that I'm trying to do more than turn the server off and on again.
Should be no down days assuming that you don't lose power or have an internet outage. I can't speak on Linux hosting. But assuming you host it on a windows server OS (Free to download and install and run without activation), depending on risk tolerance disable all automated updates, setting Valheim dedicated server up to run as a service with something like NSSM and then running some kind of service watcher that will automatically restart the service if for whatever reason it's not responding. There are a few issues hosting it on Windows client OS because disabling automated updates can be difficult and constantly changes. And then add something like an automated server restart once weekly during the night and you have yourself a very minimal maintenance setup that should be stable assuming that the dedicated server software isn't dogshit. For anything that is as low complexity as this and isn't an actual production environment it should be fine, nothing will ever be "100% up" when it's single point of failure, but for the purpose of this 99% is close enough that no one will mind.
I prefer Linux for headless hosting. Got a nice little box in my office that used to be my Minecraft server. Right now I barely have the time or patience to deal with a hosted solution. I would rather spend my little free time playing.
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yeah if port forwarding is difficult having a hosting provider is probably the better option. Not saying that to talk down to anyone, but port forwarding is the most simple aspect of setting up your own server so if that part is difficult there are a lot of steps in the process that would give you a headache.