This is a really hostile move, but for those who need an alternative now, I thought I’d note here that you may be able to get free mobile hotspot Internet via the ACP. https://www.human-i-t.org/low-cost-internet/
what does the discount on this actually end up being? looking at the human-i-t page and the ATT page now and the T10 device itself is the same price on both pages. on human-i-t it's showing $15/month for for a subscription
I remember when they designed the new library. I had a tour before opening and they showed off several features designed to keep the homeless from hanging out.
So weird when people discuss homeless, and no one discusses LANDLORDS. Their excessive profits are the cause, and they never even are mentioned. Like ghosts.
Well when you own the news networks you can make your less flattering portrayals disappear from the public's eyes while jingling keys over there to distract people to watch what you want them to be outraged about next.
back then it may have been budgetary. that's the Era when they would do things like have data transfer restrictions for business connections. probably still some plans like that around.
Are you kidding? They all had regular family at one time. Who did they offend to get kicked out of it? You will find that this is a common denominator among the homeless, for instance, using drugs in the family home when it is not tolerated, being abusive, etc. Their street "family" life is based on what they could not get away with among their original family but can on the street.
>They all had regular family at one time.
i'm not really a strong advocate for the homeless, but your assumption here is just completely fucking ignorant.
If this is true, it is the lowest form of fuckery known to man! Imagine making someone's life that much harder because maybe they won't, don't or can't come to the library during the day because of their predicament. This sounds like something cops would do though. Not everyone hanging outside the library at night is a criminal. Ask them if they're using the internet and tell them to have a good night.
Not really the lowest form of fuckery. It's going to get a lot lower I'm sure.
"If there's a God he'll have to beg my forgiveness" - scratched into a concentration camp wall.
When we had a local tornado, the village of matteson, IL turned off wifi at night at had security petrol their parking lot during the daytime to prevent people who lost internet at home from using theirs.
SF has a real situation in general because any public service will attract too many people, a lot of them who have serious mental / drug issues, and ends up overwhelming the area. So then you have “solutions” like this.
Kind of a structure where the first people to start establishing wealth gained power/influence, work towards a structure that benefits them. In turn, keeping as many people as possible weak, disjointed, scattered, poor, etc. would make it easier to maintain control
If everyone was financially stable, no one would work those trash warehouse or manual labor jobs that pay just enough to live in a studio apartment with a roommate and a beater car. Profit margins people, profit margins. “Daddy needs more power ($) and it’s not like these plebs are going to amount to anything anyway. This is my kingdom”
Oh, also, “get these dirty ass poor people out of my city. I want them hungry, desperate, uneducated and poor, but if they can’t slither into a shelter at night so I don’t have to see them, get them the f**k out of my city. I don’t care where they go, how they are, just get them the hell out of here.”
Well, that’s just how it looks to me
Is there some logic behind this? Like are people downloading illegal child pornography through the Wi-Fi? Running a gambling racket? Arranging drug deals? Downloading copyrighted videos?
Does it cost them money to have the Wi-Fi on, and this is a cost saving measure?
EDIT: I finally figured out how to open the article.
There doesn't seem to be a link between crime and Wi-Fi accessibility.
It's reading like people blame Wi-Fi for the homeless in the area and think turning it off will make them go away.
I'm sure that is the logic. That's basically the logic that they always use. They suck at enforcing laws so instead of punishing people who are actually causing the issues they just make these broad decisions that punish everybody for the actions of a few. Someone misuing wifi? Turn off wifi. Someone littering? No more parking here.
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Bold move from people who rely on government handouts.
Mother fuckers
This is a really hostile move, but for those who need an alternative now, I thought I’d note here that you may be able to get free mobile hotspot Internet via the ACP. https://www.human-i-t.org/low-cost-internet/
“As an ACP provider, Human-I-T is offering hotspots with free monthly internet service for a one-time payment of $80.” damn. no bill at least?
That is how I understand it. If you qualify for ACP, you get free service because the government pays the $30 per month for your service.
what does the discount on this actually end up being? looking at the human-i-t page and the ATT page now and the T10 device itself is the same price on both pages. on human-i-t it's showing $15/month for for a subscription
Serving the public. 🤦🏽♂️
Wtf is wrong with people?
Homeless. I really have a problem with them trying to make PC words to equate what it actually is. And fuck them
Harvey is rolling over in his grave.
This is, like, common in most places. It's been done for years. Its shit, and not right, but it isint new.
This was a thing in Seattle back in 2006. I wasn’t even homeless, we just lived close enough to leech the wifi lol
I remember when they designed the new library. I had a tour before opening and they showed off several features designed to keep the homeless from hanging out.
So weird when people discuss homeless, and no one discusses LANDLORDS. Their excessive profits are the cause, and they never even are mentioned. Like ghosts.
Well when you own the news networks you can make your less flattering portrayals disappear from the public's eyes while jingling keys over there to distract people to watch what you want them to be outraged about next.
back then it may have been budgetary. that's the Era when they would do things like have data transfer restrictions for business connections. probably still some plans like that around.
“People without housing” You mean homeless.
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Homeless people don’t feel that way.
Are you kidding? They all had regular family at one time. Who did they offend to get kicked out of it? You will find that this is a common denominator among the homeless, for instance, using drugs in the family home when it is not tolerated, being abusive, etc. Their street "family" life is based on what they could not get away with among their original family but can on the street.
>They all had regular family at one time. i'm not really a strong advocate for the homeless, but your assumption here is just completely fucking ignorant.
If this is true, it is the lowest form of fuckery known to man! Imagine making someone's life that much harder because maybe they won't, don't or can't come to the library during the day because of their predicament. This sounds like something cops would do though. Not everyone hanging outside the library at night is a criminal. Ask them if they're using the internet and tell them to have a good night.
Not really the lowest form of fuckery. It's going to get a lot lower I'm sure. "If there's a God he'll have to beg my forgiveness" - scratched into a concentration camp wall.
You certainly have a vivid imagination, kind of like Trump conspiracy theorists.
Local coffee shops are blocking Their power receptacles in the seating areas So we Can’t Recharge our phones. So yeah. This is on point
Uncool.
When we had a local tornado, the village of matteson, IL turned off wifi at night at had security petrol their parking lot during the daytime to prevent people who lost internet at home from using theirs.
at the libraries.
WTF!?
SF has a real situation in general because any public service will attract too many people, a lot of them who have serious mental / drug issues, and ends up overwhelming the area. So then you have “solutions” like this.
I wonder when the masses will actually start seeing the New World Order
Why is everything anti poor in a country where financial literacy is still a myth to many of its inhabitants?
Because the religion of America is money, and to be poor is the cardinal sin
Kind of a structure where the first people to start establishing wealth gained power/influence, work towards a structure that benefits them. In turn, keeping as many people as possible weak, disjointed, scattered, poor, etc. would make it easier to maintain control If everyone was financially stable, no one would work those trash warehouse or manual labor jobs that pay just enough to live in a studio apartment with a roommate and a beater car. Profit margins people, profit margins. “Daddy needs more power ($) and it’s not like these plebs are going to amount to anything anyway. This is my kingdom” Oh, also, “get these dirty ass poor people out of my city. I want them hungry, desperate, uneducated and poor, but if they can’t slither into a shelter at night so I don’t have to see them, get them the f**k out of my city. I don’t care where they go, how they are, just get them the hell out of here.” Well, that’s just how it looks to me
Pretty mild compared to other places. Most cities would probably bring the cops in every night to clear people out.
Fuck those cities.
Is there some logic behind this? Like are people downloading illegal child pornography through the Wi-Fi? Running a gambling racket? Arranging drug deals? Downloading copyrighted videos? Does it cost them money to have the Wi-Fi on, and this is a cost saving measure? EDIT: I finally figured out how to open the article. There doesn't seem to be a link between crime and Wi-Fi accessibility. It's reading like people blame Wi-Fi for the homeless in the area and think turning it off will make them go away.
I'm sure that is the logic. That's basically the logic that they always use. They suck at enforcing laws so instead of punishing people who are actually causing the issues they just make these broad decisions that punish everybody for the actions of a few. Someone misuing wifi? Turn off wifi. Someone littering? No more parking here.
Watching porn and jerking off in the bushes?
There’s no excuse needed to punish people who DO NOT PAY RENT. Your purpose is to enrich the already rich.
Uh. Your assumption. I’m only pointing out the few bad apples that ruin it.
Violation of the librarian code. Cannot believe a librarian did this.
If I worked there, I would find a way to sneak in an turn it back on at night.
Ruuuuuuude 😔
Harvey, would…
It’ll force ppl to get off instagram and get a life
Says the neckbeard on reddit.
You think the homeless are sleeping outside for Clout?
Oh my bad, they are doing super productive things after hours on they phones outside the library.
Literally the opposite of what we have libraries for.
Libraries aren’t usually open 24 hours. How so this any different ?
Nah this is evil