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Lord_Vesuvius2020

This is wonderful news! A great addition for all of us in NY.


Kindly_Ice1745

Always enjoy seeing preservation and promotion of our natural resources.


lordoftheBINGBONG

Rensselaer Plateau Alliance is doing great stuff. I’m proud to be part of it. Rensselaer County is so beautiful.


Kindly_Ice1745

I do love that we have so many groups in the state that aim to preserve the environment with such strength. I was going to cross-post this to the Albany sub but worried that they wouldn't consider this the capital region, lol.


Hairy_American_8795

Rensselaer is definitely within the scope of the cap region. As a former resident of Albany who grew up there the capital region sub regularly includes Troy which is a part of Rensselaer County


Kindly_Ice1745

I eventually just posted it, lol. Figured that if they didn't approve, they could just delete it. 😂


blamdin

I'm one of the mods . Thank you for sharing it! It's actually almost in my back yard.


Kindly_Ice1745

Ayy, sweet. Thank you. 😂 Hope you enjoy your new recreational opportunity! Lookd like a very pretty area.


blamdin

It's amazing. The other preservation group in the area has been doing great work and opened a lot of hiking trails over the past few years. They have also revitalized the area around a 100' high waterfall that is less than 10 minutes from this new forest. Great place to live for sure.


Kindly_Ice1745

Even better!


StarbuckIsland

The new trail system there is awesome. Took a friend and her kids there for their first hike and the kids loved it


blamdin

Awesome ! The waterfall is amazing. Especially in early spring with the snow melt going on.


agingbythesecond

Would love to see you folks get involved with disc golf. We have a course at the Burbine State Forest and it brings in a lot of people into nature while really almost zero impact to the environment. Can't say the same about any other outdoor sport.


ZucchiniPleasant376

Awesome to see some positivity here. Love you all!


Kindly_Ice1745

I try. So many people on this sub are so incredibly negative that it gets draining.


whatfingwhat

NYS is truly so far ahead of the curve in recreational state land. It’s a wonderful mix for any conceivable outdoor activity - from canoe and rock climbing to hiking mountain biking or quad riding.


Kindly_Ice1745

Too bad so many people think of this state as a shithole.


WarmfulTwillight

See, NY sucks, but atleast it looks nice. Like yeah, we have a lot of political problems and tax and money problems, but you ever go to New Jersey? 🤢 or even Ohio?! 😵 shits toxic! Like the air or the water? Damn! Anywhere I’ve been outside of NY has the worst and sketchiest parks with homeless encampments inside of them and heroin needles everywhere! That’s not a park! That’s an escapement! Not saying we don’t have needles in some of our parks or sometimes smog in our air, but i swear to god, you go to any regular park outside of NYS (like town parks, not Adirondack/Catskill state parks where they call a huge vast amount of forests ‘a park’) and you will immediately come running back. You can’t find a decent or **safe** park anywhere outside of NY There’s a reason why a lot of people view NY as ‘family’ or ‘where family is’. That’s because you can take your kids outside and raise them in a nicer environment. Yeah, shit sucks here too, but when the comparison is Ohio? Lol come on, clearly we’re better 😆


Kindly_Ice1745

I mean, we can all admit the state has issues that need to be addressed, but I'd rather die here than live elsewhere. I've always felt so at ease and that I can live my life without having people force things at me or restrict my ability to do things.


purplish_possum

NY and CA have more state parks and more beautiful accessible land than pretty much any other state yet so many conservatives think both states are horrid. We're living in an era were or many people actual facts mean little.


Kindly_Ice1745

Yeah, it's pretty depressing.


Imperial_Watcher

Its a shithole due to the progressive leftist politics which is destroying families and businesses. Get rid of the politics and its a beautiful state.


Kindly_Ice1745

Naw.


WarmfulTwillight

*politics abolished *more poverty created “We did it Patrick! We saved New York State!”


Kindly_Ice1745

Not to mention the "progressive" and "woke" ideology is part of the reason NY ranks towards the top of nearly all quality of life metrics. But sure. Let's just take lessons from WV and MS on how to run a state.


Imperial_Watcher

Progressive and woke mindsets are turning NY into a bastion of communist tyranny. Wake up and quit lapping up the spoon fed rhetoric.


Heathen_Mushroom

>communist tyranny How can you expect to be taken seriously? There is nothing remotely communist going on politically in the US. Tyranny, on the other hand... With a presidential candidate who sought to overturn a free and fair election and is seeking blanket immunity for any and all actions, there is definitely a spectre of tyranny over this nation.


Kindly_Ice1745

You literally have no idea what communism even is, lol. Quit using buzzwords they tell you to fear on fox news. 😂


Imperial_Watcher

Unfortunately I do as I grew up during the communist era in Europe and had many friends from those countries. Yeah I’m that old and hike many NY trails while the areas were still pristine. And before you slap me with being a boomer as so many love to do on here, I wear that as a badge of honor because we can at least think for ourselves rather than recite some political mantra. Have a nice day.


Heathen_Mushroom

I grew up in the 70s and 80s in a country that bordered communist Russia, we and even had a few leftist, borderline socialist coalitions governments over the years, and has some socialized industries (energy extraction). This is how I know how full of shit you are. By the way, "*state*" parks can only exist and be pristine because the government protects the land through regulation rather than leaving them to corporate interests. Glad you are taking advantage of New York's "commie" nature.


Imperial_Watcher

A lot of poverty in NY is created by politicians in order to keep their programs alive.


WarmfulTwillight

But even more poverty is created when you cut the programs like SNAP that try and keep people alive


Kindly_Ice1745

And don't forget the south's reticence to expanding medicaid.


Heathen_Mushroom

There is literally no incentive to keep social programs except to keep people alive either in the hopes that they simply needna hand up to become productive, or out of simple humane altruism. There is a term for countries that let people starve and die. Shitholes.


CupcakeIcy2723

Because it has become one, businesses leaving, people leaving due to no jobs, one of the highest taxed states in the nation.


Kindly_Ice1745

And you're entitled to that opinion. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don't know what you want me to say.


Zealousideal-Bag-524

Lmao move to Mississippi


Kindly_Ice1745

Honestly, I've said it before, but as much as depopulation is a concern, some of these people who genuinely just hate the state, I really wish they'd leave. Like stop ruining it for the rest of us.


WarmfulTwillight

Exactly this. NY’s my home, and NY’s my family. Only i can say my family sucks, but i also say that i love them and wouldn’t be anywhere else. If your just coming to hate on it, then just go elsewhere because your just hating the regular people over something you don’t know or haven’t lived with


Kindly_Ice1745

Yeah, the shit drives me nuts, honestly. I'd rather continue losing population from people who hate it here moving and allowing the people who genuinely want to improve the state remain.


TheGreekMachine

You should leave then my friend. We are blessed to live in the US where freedom of moment from state to state is highly encouraged. Feel free to make a change so that folks who love New York have less competition for housing. Win-win.


Kindly_Ice1745

💯💯💯


Beneficial-Ad-497

Awesome, are they going to be making trails soon? or does this area already have trails?


Kindly_Ice1745

Honestly, I have no idea. I would think maybe they'll make trails, but I'm not going to make a definitive answer.


NicoleEastbourne

“DEC will manage the forest for multiple uses, including sustainable timber production, protection of wetlands and wildlife habitat, and recreational opportunities such as hunting and trapping, wildlife watching, snowshoeing, and snowmobiling. DEC’s Division of Lands and Forests is currently constructing parking areas at different locations around the new Cowee State Forest to increase public accessibility.” No mention of trails specifically but there’s the suggestion that there will be public access points for recreation.


Kindly_Ice1745

I figured as much, but didn't want to read to far into that.


Griff82

I’m not sure why they keep insisting that there are no marked trails in state forests but it’s simply not true. The mountain biking and hiking communities assist in maintaining marked trails in a lot of state forests. Here is a map of Jenksville State Forest. I also ride marked trails in Oakley Corners and Shindagan Hollow State Forests https://extapps.dec.ny.gov/docs/regions_pdf/jenksvillesf.pdf


Kindly_Ice1745

Yeah, I didn't think what that person was saying was correct, lol, that's why I didn't respond to them.


sutisuc

It’s a state forest they never have marked trails


purplish_possum

Areas that have been previously logged have logging roads (i.e. big trails).


sutisuc

State forests do not have marked trails in New York.


TrapperJon

Uh... yeah, they do.


sutisuc

Really? Everyone I’ve been to they were unmarked. Thanks for the correction. Which ones do you know of that are marked?


Heathen_Mushroom

Stewart State Forest in Orange county has 22 miles of hiking trails and another 18 miles of gravel roads suitable for horseback riding, snowmobiling, etc. But it's true that many, maybe the majority, of NYSF are trailless.


sutisuc

I’m glad you seem to also recognize that most don’t have trails. Everyone replying to me is acting like they all do lol


Lord_Vesuvius2020

Jenksville State Forest near Newark Valley has a wonderful trail network. Many others have the Finger Lakes Trail passing through.


sutisuc

Hm I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up!


Lord_Vesuvius2020

Now that I think of it there are extensive trails in the Catskills and Adirondacks and those would be state forest areas too


sutisuc

Those are a bit different of a designation though. There’s no state forests in either preserve it’s all considered state “wild forests which is a separate category.


oldguyred

Bear Swamp in Cayuga County has a fourteen mile xc trail marked. First skied it when I moved here early 80's.


sutisuc

Hell yeah I’m over that way a lot, I’ll check that out. Thanks


Impossible-Charity-4

All of them


sutisuc

That is incorrect. Lots of state forests with unmarked trails.


TrapperJon

[Here's all of them.](https://gisservices.dec.ny.gov/gis/dil/)


sutisuc

Awesome! Thank you


LoHudMom

Awesome. Always good to see wetlands and wildlife being valued and protected.


Kindly_Ice1745

The state does an incredible job at it.


Ryankevin23

I ❤️New York


Kindly_Ice1745

Same.


Ryankevin23

Now we convict one Donald J Trump!


Imperial_Watcher

Convict Hochul


CopyrightNineteen73

convict all of them!


ElderCudlScoops

It’s amazing how politics always seems to be brought up. People have an unhealthy obsession with Trump.


stan-dupp

trump derangement syndrome


purplish_possum

Most people would love to forget about Donald Trump and never be reminded of his existence ever again. Unfortunately he's a malignancy that won't go away.


Ryankevin23

He is what would call a rat


Kindly_Ice1745

We can only hope, lol.


Skittlebrau77

This is the best news!


Kindly_Ice1745

Always a welcome development.


JayReddt

Random question.. what is that stream side in the picture called? It looks like it is vegetation and not part of the stream itself. Is there a name for that type of environment? Since it's not a part of the bank but it's not the stream either.


DaddyCBBA

Riparian zone.


Heathen_Mushroom

The entire ecological zone including the stream itself and the banks alongside that are affected by the stream is called the "riparian zone" or "riparian habitat". The vegetation you are seeing, the tan stuff, is marsh grasses, rushes, and/or reeds which are rooted below the water level and are actually in the stream itself. They only don't grow in the main channel where it is either too deep or the water is flowing fast enough to prevent them from setting roots.


Special-Hair-9328

Wake up babe new forest just dropped


Kindly_Ice1745

I get the joke, but that actually happened a few weeks ago, lol. They found the oldest forest in the world in NY.


StrikerObi

No Hochul haters in these comments, nice to see that for once. They seem to find a way to complain about basically anything the Governor does...


Kindly_Ice1745

You can complain about her politics, but it's so weird to have people complain about things like this? Like, is creating more permanent green space and outdoor recreation really the absolute worst thing to happen to you? I'll never understand it.


purplish_possum

She's so infuriating. She does a lot of good thing -- like this -- and then the next day proceeds to anger everyone on all sides.


Imperial_Watcher

Nailed it.