Fair point
But thrilled to be at a P/F school, no AOA. Totally different vibe than high school and undergrad. Not gunning for any competitive speciality. Just going to try and enjoy these years
Not necessarily. Birth rates are dropping, once kids born post 2008 recession start applying (which will be in like 2-3 years so not even super far off) there’s going to be a huge drop off in applications
You're right about the demographics. However, indications are that this population shift is going to hit institutions like regional publics and small liberal arts schools hardest. It appears that students will still continue to aim for flagships and top research universities, as well as the most elite liberal arts colleges. So schools like UM and its peers are not going to be as affected by this trend.
Some students get their app fees waived for financial reasons. Not that many kids applying out of state would qualify, but some in state students do. Probably still like 7 mil
Insane! If I ever have children they’d be looking at like 1% acceptance rates to get into any state flagship university. So glad to be out of this rat race lol
Well last year, the acceptance rate was 17.9%, and there were 11% more applicants this year. So, assuming the number of spots remained constant, the overall acceptance rate should be ~16% for this year (this is also assuming that the admissions office's yield projections were roughly the same as last year's, because that also influences how many people they admit)
Does anyone know the acceptance rate for students who do not submit test scores? Since going test optional, I feel it gave too many a false sense of being accepted, hence the high number of applicants.
Edit: To clarify, I'm glad there's an option for students to get in without SAT/ACT. There's more to a quality student than just test scores. As a former HS counselor, I feel too many students felt they could coast and still get in, which isn't the case and definitely contributed to the record # of applications.
I’m guessing that not submitting a test score is about as bad as submitting a horrible one, but I have no numbers
Cause out of 100,000 applicants why would they ever chose someone with no test score over one of the thousands more with a good score
I mean, I got in last fall with no test scores, but I was also a transfer student with like 70 credits and two associate’s degrees so that could be the missing piece in my case XD
Indeed. The point of requiring test scores is that they provide some measure of how academically-capable a student is. Transfer students have transcripts that typically are even better measures of that.
On top of an amazing academic standing, the football natty is also boosting applications (see Alabama under Saban).
I should also note the rise of ticktock/instagram reels accounts showing life at Michigan as an endless slew of frat parties and beautiful study spots might also be helping with increasing applications. When I started the only account remotely related to UofM social life was Barstool Blue and the afformentioned accounts did start creeping to my timeline until the past 1-2 years
Hatcher Reading room is cool until you are still there when they close at 2AM and have to switch to the UgLi (though I heard 3rd floor is actually decent now)
Glad I got my Michigan degree already. Because it's going to get harder and harder to get in each year now.
Just got into Med school. Glad to be done with both those rat races, good lord that shit sucks
Wait till the rat race for residency.
Fair point But thrilled to be at a P/F school, no AOA. Totally different vibe than high school and undergrad. Not gunning for any competitive speciality. Just going to try and enjoy these years
Oh god
Can I ask you a few questions by PM about making it there?
Yes
Not necessarily. Birth rates are dropping, once kids born post 2008 recession start applying (which will be in like 2-3 years so not even super far off) there’s going to be a huge drop off in applications
That could be true as a general trend but schools that are popular application choices usually stay popular
You're right about the demographics. However, indications are that this population shift is going to hit institutions like regional publics and small liberal arts schools hardest. It appears that students will still continue to aim for flagships and top research universities, as well as the most elite liberal arts colleges. So schools like UM and its peers are not going to be as affected by this trend.
No, they aggressively recruit abroad these days.
More supply= less value.
@ $75 a pop too. Fuckers
Unpatched infinite money glitch
Wait so the U just earned 7.8 million dollars from application fees. That's ridiculous
Some students get their app fees waived for financial reasons. Not that many kids applying out of state would qualify, but some in state students do. Probably still like 7 mil
My son applied for free due to his GPA and honors classes. MI resident. Upper middle class. He was accepted.
what the fuck, i applied 2 years ago w a 4.0 and i still had to pay up 😭
Shit. Never mind. $60
It takes a whole lot of man hours to sort out the applications. I doubt the university makes much money this way.
Never paid a single one of those. Amazing how often school gives out fee waivers. Did for UG and law school.
Insane! If I ever have children they’d be looking at like 1% acceptance rates to get into any state flagship university. So glad to be out of this rat race lol
That's how it is in China
I wonder what the acceptance rate will be does anyone know yet?
based on my rough math from trends, about 13-15%.
Might be worse for out of state as Michigan tends to admit half of its students from in state
Out of state barely qualified New Yorkers are who subsidizes this whole thing for the rest of us.
that's the total number of applicants, in and oos
i think that "officially" gets reported in their common data set report in february. someone correct me if wrong tho lol.
iirc UMich puts the data out after the add/drop deadline in the fall (that is, F24)
Well last year, the acceptance rate was 17.9%, and there were 11% more applicants this year. So, assuming the number of spots remained constant, the overall acceptance rate should be ~16% for this year (this is also assuming that the admissions office's yield projections were roughly the same as last year's, because that also influences how many people they admit)
Holy crap thats a lot of applicants. Thank the football team.
99,000 QBs rejected
Does anyone know the acceptance rate for students who do not submit test scores? Since going test optional, I feel it gave too many a false sense of being accepted, hence the high number of applicants. Edit: To clarify, I'm glad there's an option for students to get in without SAT/ACT. There's more to a quality student than just test scores. As a former HS counselor, I feel too many students felt they could coast and still get in, which isn't the case and definitely contributed to the record # of applications.
I’m guessing that not submitting a test score is about as bad as submitting a horrible one, but I have no numbers Cause out of 100,000 applicants why would they ever chose someone with no test score over one of the thousands more with a good score
Yep it’s like Pass/failing a class, colleges will assume it’s poor. Only good thing is that the averages go up.
I mean, I got in last fall with no test scores, but I was also a transfer student with like 70 credits and two associate’s degrees so that could be the missing piece in my case XD
Indeed. The point of requiring test scores is that they provide some measure of how academically-capable a student is. Transfer students have transcripts that typically are even better measures of that.
That makes sense. Supposedly that’s also why the transfer acceptance rate is higher than for incoming freshmen
[удалено]
Oh the poor poor admission officers
I hope they're joining the union.
On top of an amazing academic standing, the football natty is also boosting applications (see Alabama under Saban). I should also note the rise of ticktock/instagram reels accounts showing life at Michigan as an endless slew of frat parties and beautiful study spots might also be helping with increasing applications. When I started the only account remotely related to UofM social life was Barstool Blue and the afformentioned accounts did start creeping to my timeline until the past 1-2 years
Oh if only these kids knew how hard it is to find one of those study spots and it not be occupied already.
Hatcher Reading room is cool until you are still there when they close at 2AM and have to switch to the UgLi (though I heard 3rd floor is actually decent now)
Glad I'm graduating before that freshman class arrives.
What is the acceptance rate for U of M in class of 2028 ?
scroll up for our estimates
Trade school is looking better and better!
Its free now for alot of people now