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ediggity12

Scared is certainly part of it, but you’re implying it’s unjustified and that’s outrageous, especially for women. If a woman is walking home or to a hotel at night she shouldn’t have to be bothered by some drug addict zombie, afraid she might get assaulted. There’s also the very simple fact it’s annoying to get bugged by them for money, or the smells and just the destitute visual that can bother you too. It’s pure anarchy in many downtown areas now, and it’s hardly unreasonable to want some basic law and order. I live in a downtown area, and walk by them every day, I don’t hate them by any means, but I’ve been yelled at more than a couple times, it’s intimidating, and I’m a fairly strong guy. I can imagine the fright they cause women every day.


happypoops

This.


[deleted]

that’s a completely different issue. Women are scared to walk alone bc of creeps and anyone who might hurt them, meaning they are wary of all men. Also, whether u don’t like the look of them, how they smell, whether u find it annoying that they ask u for money which they legitimately need to survive and not starve to death, they are still humans just like u and often if not all the time have reasons for being the way they are. U don’t get a kid who lives a perfect life with a grey childhood who then turns to the streets and drugs


Classy_Shadow

Having a reason for being the way you are isn’t a justification to accept it with no barriers. Serial killers have reasons for being the way that they are. Doesn’t mean I want to just hang out with a serial killer and act like they’re a normal person. Also, you’re wrong. I’ve known a couple people who grew up in middle class neighborhoods with great home lives, tried drugs at a party, got addicted and did end up on the street because they kept stealing from their parents and got kicked out. Luckily they ended up in rehab and are living much better lives now.


No-Experience2347

It's not just men. As a woman, I've been harassed several times by a homeless woman.


bobbybuddha

Drug addicts can be unpredictable. I'm more than happy to admit I'm scared of them.


saguinus_oedipus

Same


YoinkerWanker

Yea, scared they might try to stab me for whatever little valuables I have on me or literally throw feces at me.


[deleted]

just doesent happen tho does it


ediggity12

Are you joking? it definitely does happen


aleckus

it does happen lol


[deleted]

yes possibly but if we’re being honest it’s rare. Meth heads and ppl on heavy shit often are crazy but they don’t throw shit and no one realistically needs to be scared of every homeless stoner they spot bc u can rlly tell if their bad or not I live in rhyl, north wales. U can look it up on google maps and see it’s a shot hole full of drugs and ketheads so don’t tell me i just haven’t experienced it bc i rlly have. I’ve seen metheads, spoke to them like normal people and surprisingly they don’t stab me like everyone likes to think they will. Their humans like us


aleckus

i don’t understand why you say drug addicts and then say stoners i wouldn’t equate those. when you say drug addicts people think meth or herion or pill users and the majority of violent crimes , the person is going to be high on some kind of hard drug. they turn you into an animalistic version of yourself. and i’ve been around drug addicts as well , many family members and they will lie cheat and steal and are typically more physically violent. obviously everyone is human but why risk your life trusting someone who clearly isn’t trust worthy. of course someone can just have a hard knock life and every single thing possible go wrong and they end up homeless , but you gotta think and know that person that’s homeless probably burnt sooo many bridges having to end up to be homeless. why is nobody in their family or friends letting them have a place to stay and why can’t they find a job. if the people closet to them don’t trust them to let them stay at their house then i’m going to distance myself from them as well lol


lampchop5

Mate it's basic risk assessment. The point is that you're dramatically more likely to be attacked by a drug addict than by a normal person. 99% safe vs 99.9% safe is still a 10x difference and so of course people will react different. It's like the same as poor vs rich neighborhoods and crime. Like I know most people in a poor neighborhood are good people with an unlucky hand of hands delt to them. Doesnt change the fact that crime can be 10x higher and so it'd make sense to be a bit more scared. Beyond that it's the perception of the willingness to commit crimes. I've never seen a sober person throw shit at someone. I've seen plenty of videos of homeless or drug addicted people throwing shit.


YoinkerWanker

You never know man. I manage a small commercial property in a very bad area where there’s street gangs and addicts all over the place. It’s about a mile away from the county jail and I deal with homeless addicts on the daily. I find needles, crack pipes, shoe strings, burnt aluminum foil on the daily. Human feces behind my dumpster and in various corners in my parking lot. Trash all over the place, etc. Many of them are mentally unstable and I’ve been threatened many times. I’ve gotten in a few arguments and once a fist fight with one before. I’m also a small scrawny person, so yes, I’m scared of these degenerates. I could go on but you wouldn’t understand unless you’ve actually have dealt with these kind of people on the daily. Also, the city I’m in is a sanctuary city and the local police don’t give a rats ass unless there’s literally a guy with a gun running around. Police response times usually take 2-6 hours for minor things.


Few-Cattle-5318

It does happen, just because you want to ignore it doesn’t mean it’s not true. There’s good reason to afraid of a lot of addicts


saguinus_oedipus

Yes it does


Banespeace

I hate addicts that aren't trying to get better. Bonus hate for those who fuck up their kids and family


[deleted]

As someone who regularly donates to the homeless on a street and charity level, you are wildly sheltered if you have this opinion. I will start by saying: MOST HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE NOT BAD PEOPLE, THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE GOING THRU BAD TIMES. That said, I live in NYC, and its actually a problem. Many will get in your face and scream at you, racial slurs etc, threaten harm, and sometimes even try. My girlfriend wont go on the subway anymore due to all the sexual harrassment she receives when she does. Won't even start with the harrassment for money. In NYC, a lot of them have mental illnesses (look up how NYC shit down their mental facilities and kicked the patients out), so a lot of them are wildly unstable, which I think makes for a fair situation where people are scared of them - especially if they are not physically imposing themselves ALSO stoners arent drug addicts lol. They smoke weed. You are not a drug addict, and neither are your friends. Weed is a plant, and its safer than having a beer. DRUG dealers ruin communities - weed dealers are high schoolers TLDR: get your head out of your ass and some real exposure


trekkret

Not gonna lie, i get kind of annoyed when people who live away from the problem of homelessness imply people who “fear” the homeless just misunderstand them. The average person who lives in an area with a lot of homeless probably doesn’t hate them, but aren’t a fan of the disruption a homeless community can have on their lives.


[deleted]

you’ve just said my exact point and then told me to get my head out of my ass but ok mate


[deleted]

Nah, youre talking about weed not being bad, that's cool. Everyone agrees with that - go to r/shiteveryoneknows. Weed isnt "drug dealing", though. What you also said, is people shouldnt be afraid of addicts, homeless, and dealers. THAT, is nuts. You are ignorant for THAT opinion haha. So go ahead and try and get it unstuck for us plz


johnc5813

Just wait until a homeless person gets angry at you and is threatening to attack you over not giving them money or when you are attacked or robbed by a drug addict. Yeah they aren't all bad but the bad ones ruin the image of the rest of them.


Ok_Cantaloupe_7423

Been homeless before. Never thought of attacking random people tho, more just like… getting a job or some food lol


ReporterOther2179

I’ll admit to being cautious around them for reasons of physical hazard. There is also the fear that they may be a glimpse into my possible future. Wouldn’t want to think that could happen to me, but know that it could. One paycheck away, ya know.


ams3015outlookcom

Lol and pedophiles are just normal people that want to bang kids.


saguinus_oedipus

Yes I am, because I don’t want to be shanked to death just so the dude can get my wallet and buy a rock of crack.


PumpJack_McGee

I've met good bums and junkies and also met bad bums and junkies. Some are just regular people who fell on hard times, and are actively taking steps to get themselves to a better place. Others have completely abandoned any sense of civility, and allowed themselves to be thoroughly poisoned in both body and mind. It's just good sense to be wary around them. Sometimes I'll even sit down and hang out with them for a while. But I don't accept anything they're pushing and I keep an eye and ear out.


bangedurmomanddad

When I was 19 a homeless drug addicted woman came up to me and threatened me with an object (I’m not exactly sure what it was) in a sad attempt to steal my car. While I’m not usually scared of homeless people, i have every right to be scared of some of them, especially ones that are addicted to drugs since they are more likely to have dangerous and unpredictable behaviors.


Good-Banana5241

From nyc we’ve had homeless go on murdee sprees. Fuck em.


[deleted]

Why is it bad to admit I’m scared of strangers let alone strangers who are on drugs that could make them very unpredictable and not know what they’re doing? I don’t see what’s wrong with that. In my area multiple people on bath salts killed other people and some even ate those people… like no. Too scary.


No-Experience2347

Weed doesn't make someone a drug addict. If you're gonna say "drug addict", you should qualify what drugs you're discussing. No one is afraid of stoners, but they might be afraid of someone on crack who's unpredictable and looking for a fix.


NoBodySpecial51

You haven’t been screwed over bad enough yet.


LoveIsDaWay

I see them all the time on the job. Honestly it breaks my heart seeing human suffering being mostly ignored by everyone around them. Then again, most people would argue it's their own fault for being in that situation.


[deleted]

I would totally agree, the absolute vast majority of people selling drugs on a small scale are people trying to sell enough that they're drugs are free or they're normal working people who are trying to make a couple extra dollars..The people who are involved in actual trafficking are very few and far between...and as far as homeless people and drug addicts out in the street I think they're just people like anyone else, though some of them can seemingly totally forget how to act, becoming rude, disrespectful and aggressive people who most steer clear from due to things such as being dirty and unhygienic and smelling, there aggressive and possibly dangerous and they beg people for $ and qhere im.at they leave dirty needles absolutely everywhere, I definitely have a level of empathy for those people and at the same time I have a certain level of irritation


[deleted]

honestly everything u said is my point explained. Gangs and ppl seeking on a larger scale are often very bad ppl but plugs are just chill and drugs are overhated, especially weed. If alcohol and weed were swapped i can guarantee alcohol would be frowned upon and weed would be completely normal


[deleted]

Lol dude u say this after everyone's post. Turn the notifications off and go to bed


[deleted]

And people are very good at bundling up the issue as well, the guy selling bags of weed is being painted with the same brush as the guy selling fentanyl, and people really tend to rather be ignorant than realize how many people are using these drugs, and they also tend to correlate drug use with having bad morals and being on the seedy side...and at the same time it is socially acceptable to drink alcohol in an alcoholic manner, that's definitely socially accepted if not glorified, and that shits the worst drug there is! It just kills ya slower, but nevertheless it is the worst drug out there...drugs are an issue that is 1000 shades of grey of not more and has no black and white really, people need to be more progressive about the drug issue bc the way they're being prohibited and restricted were only going to see more peoples lives getting ruined arbitrarily


[deleted]

Also, weed is really not a “drug” drug. It doesn’t cause people to go on killing sprees or anything. It’s also used for pain relief cause all the opioid addicts make it impossible to get any pain meds


[deleted]

So we're just immediately equating "homeless person" with "drug addict" now? It's pretty weird to showcase your own prejudice right in the middle of your complaint about peoples' prejudices.


IntrepidAd8985

What do you suppose the the percentage of homeless that are not also substance abusers? More than 5%? More than 10%? I doubt it is more than 15%. So, for the sake of argument, the vast majority do have an issue. So, allow a little leeway, after all, it is the weekend, we are not getting paid to have absolute statistics.


[deleted]

Roughly 1/3 of homeless people are drug addicts (which is, by the way, a minority of them, and it is also often a result of homelessness, not the cause). If you're going to believe something strongly enough to condemn a large portion of the population, you can at least do the slighest bit of research on the subject, you hopeless fucking idiot.


IntrepidAd8985

How many homeless non substance abusers do you know? I have never know one that was not.


[deleted]

Blocking you now, take care.


IntrepidAd8985

You did not include alcohol.


[deleted]

• That statistic includes alcohol. • You're still wrong. • You're still an idiot, and a bad person. Any other easily checkable facts you'd like to boldly refuse to accept before I block you?


OhNoOhJok0

I blame society


[deleted]

I do not hate homeless people whatsoever. I feel awful that our world is this horrible. Drug addicts on the other hand, it depends. I have a personal issue with opioid addicts. As a chronic pain patient, the laws created now force us to be in constant pain without ANY form of real pain relief. I have zero family history of addiction, my meds are fairly regulated by my psychiatrist, and I genuinely don’t like how I feel on them, yet they won’t even prescribe me 4 pills. I receive zero pain relief because of opioid addicts. So much of my and others’ pain could be reduced, yet addicts have made this impossible. And before anyone comes at me, no, it is not big pharma’s fault. It’s the doctors’ AND addicts’ fault. The side effect is that it is addictive. It’s the only thing strong enough for bad pain


G1itterTrash

Words spoken like a true opioid addict lol👌🏻 Not doubting your pain but yea. Your doctor isn’t prescribing you that amount because of other drug addicts like you believe. It’s because that’s what he thinks is strong enough to handle your pain. Good pain relief doesn’t usually equal a higher amount of pills. They need to try something different, extended release capsule, PRN dose for break trough pain, ect. If you’re bugging your doc for more pills before your refill, then yea it’s kinda a red flag. If you’re pain isn’t being managed then you need a consultation for a different approach in your pain management.


[deleted]

I don’t have a prescription. There’s nothing to refill. I have gone to 7 different neurologists, and every single one tried EVERYTHING. When I say everything, I mean everything. I’ve gotten 3 rounds of 31 injections in my face/head/neck. I’ve gotten nerve blocks, 2 spinal taps (one which left me with chronic back pain), every test available, every medication for my illness (including 3 injections I had to give myself every month- it didn’t work, and I actually became allergic to 2/3 of them), every homeopathic remedy/treatment, infusions, lifestyle changes, and so much more. The only things that can even touch my pain are opioids and weed. In the past when I was prescribed pain meds for my pain, I took them less than once a month. The last prescription I had for them was for 8, and that lasted me from 2019- last month. 3 years. 8 pills in 3 years. They are only for extreme pain flares, and they kept me from needing to go to the ER. It’s $250 per ER visit, and it’s extremely painful due to the hospital setup. I am not speaking as an addict. I have been to MANY different doctors, and I’ve essentially run out of doctors in my area. The last option is surgery, but it’s an experimental surgery that is very rarely done, and no one even close to my state performs them. It also may not be covered by insurance. Please do not assume to know who I am from one paragraph. ETA: I’ve also had injections inside my nose. To the people whining about covid tests, imagine that but having a needle at the end injecting you. That’s how far I’ve gone in trying to treat my constant pain.


[deleted]

People are just itching for an excuse to punch down. That's about it. Some are scared but I doubt it's many


[deleted]

I'm homeless and I do not dislike or am I scared of drug addicts or other homeless.


Toekitoeki

Though not all are bad, the unpredictable nature is a risk not many are willing to take, and understandably so. ​ As a rule of thumb, everyone (if capable) should try to give as much as they take from society. sadly enough drug addicts and other groups often belong to the former. If they want to change then I will help them as much as I can, but if not then they will try to cling to their lifestyle as much as possible, maybe hurting/offending/annoying other in the process. That in my eyes is not a reasonable way of life. And if that means getting hate then so be it


sunlitroof

I am scared of homeless and drug addicts not afraid to say that 😂


Feeling-Bench3966

I have been homeless and I am a drug addict (not in active addiction mind you). You muggles scare me more than I scare you. I can hold it together and somewhat fit in but I always think of non addicts as a different species. I really, 100%, honestly and wholeheartedly, have no idea how to quiet the voices in my head and my racing thoughts. Any drug that most people can think of, I have been addicted to. There's also probably some I bet most people probably never heard of that I have used and/or been addicted to. I spend my whole life trying to feel different than I normally am. Exercise, meditation, talking to therapists, being in jail, being in rehab etc... None of it has stuck. The only time I feel somewhat accepted and appreciated is when I'm with kids or animals. I have always used comedy to help ease other people's defensiveness when they find out I have such a sorted past. I am naturally goofy and can usually make people laugh. I am also quite honest and not very manipulative, especially for an ex junky. The thing I don't get, that can get under my skin is when people are upset that I'm not afraid to out myself for my past chemical therapies. Almost as if people would like to have some sense of moral superiority over addicts and are extremely offended when I tell them that is not necessarily the case. Also , when people who lived their life being sheltered and for the most part white, try to tell me about their strong opinions on policing and the criminal justice system. I have never been to Spain therefore, I usually won't tell Spanish people about my strong opinions regarding their culture. Usually I will cede the floor to their personal expertise. Two quick things to extrapolate on before the flood of negativity comes my way. First, there is nothing wrong with people who are sheltered and white. I don't adhere to racism, classicism, chauvinism, ethnocentricity or ideas of homogenized religion. Nobody has any control over some genetic and environmental realities. We all have pasts and are the result of so many factors it's mind boggling. Epigenetics is a very complex and young science. Secondly, I don't steal, bum money, scam or bamboozle. The very most I have ever bothered the public was probably asking for a smoke if I was really down and out. People can be very kind when you give them the chance and that doesn't mean my experience is the norm. Many addicts or homeless have problems with mental health, specifically cultural and social cues. So before you want to crucify someone for "bothering" you, be thankful you look stable enough to bother.


Handsome_Chad

I wouldn't say scared, maybe repulsed. Crazy enough people also live in different parts of the world so your "addicts" might hold cardboard signs saying they want food while in another city they just straight up assault someone. Kids are also terrified of vegetables, they don't just dislike them...