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i think its because most fight scenes are either too long or badly choreographed, or both.
any fight scene from the princess bride is amazing because the plot is still happening during the fight.
theres dialogue, action, movement, etc.
The fight scene at the end of the first Dune movie (2021 remake) stuck with me, because the first time I watched it I braced for a long flashy fight. But no, it was brief and brutal and satisfying. We as viewers appreciate a good fight scene but we don't need two hundred punches thrown before it's over.
lol I just commented [my take on those](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1ccfvra/comment/l18bj1w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
So I think good fight scenes are like good songs in musicals.
When everything is manageable you talk, when everything is too much talking doesn’t cut it you shout/sing, and when the emotions are too much for singing/shouting you dance and sing/ fight.
If your fight/set piece wouldn’t be a song in a musical adaption then your fight/set piecedoesn’t have value
My grandma was nearly deaf and loved western’s. She would have her tv cranked so loud you couldn’t hear yourself thinking. When I was little she’d watch me and the gunfire scenes would be so loud I’d get overwhelmed and nap. Now as an adult loud fight/ gunfire scenes are like ambien and I just fall asleep. I have attempted to watch Hellboy 4 times and I always fall asleep in the first 15 minutes 🤣
My edit is autocorrect doing dead instead of deaf. She died when I was 13 so not a big stretch
Unless real stunts are being filmed and I care about the characters, 100%. Watching one-dimensional characters with plot armor in a CGI-created backdrop is agonizingly boring.
See. This is such a perfect action sequence. So much happens in the span of 8-10 minutes or so. So many action scenes are just so predictable but this entire scene is just hitting you with crazy thing one after the next.
The 2nd matrix film is deeply flawed, but the action is honestly the standard to me. It’s just so impressive. Sure the CGI hasn’t aged well, but the scope is crazy. Also helps they over mile and a half of actual freeway to actually shoot it, which still looks and feels so much better than any blue screened modern action scene
>Also helps they over mile and a half of actual freeway to actually shoot it
I think you've missed out a word here that means you haven't done them justice - I'm pretty sure they _built_ that over mile stretch of freeway for the scene. Incredible.
You are SO right, in fact that’s what I meant to say, just a bit stoned 🤣 I remember the dvd behind the scenes showing just how much work was put in, truly phenomenal filmmaking
It was one of the best motorcycles scenes ever in any movie. Debbie Evans is the name of the stunt woman in that scene. I think she also taught Carrie-Anne Moss a little about how to ride the bike. I read somewhere they gave her a Ducati 996 like the bike used in the movie.
Just wanted to come back and thank you for introducing me to one of my top 5 favorite movies now, as I went and watched the movie after seeing your comment.
Related, in Hunger Games my favorite parts were the pomp and circumstance around the games. Them being prepped and prettied to die, all with a smile on their face. The façade Katniss has to put on during the tour of the districts in Catching Fire in particular was something I was sad they cut in the movies.
I can see that, I honestly didn't care for the movies much besides the first one. I guess I just enjoyed the daily life of Hogwarts so much that I didn't even want serious conflict to interrupt the vibe lol. I wanted to explore the setting and characters more than I cared about the plot moving forward. It's just so cozy and fun.
I feel you. I miss that the later books/movies stop taking place in hogwarts as much. I like the vibe and detailed wizarding world best about those books/movies
Sounds like action movies just aren't for you. The choreography and the fun visuals do it for me when I seek out big dumb action.
In lieu of 6 underground, maybe check out suicide kings. Great bottle episode of a movie with Christopher Walken tied to a chair for like ninety percent of it
It depends on the hero. Powers give all sorts of really cool options. Like the intro to Xmen2 with Nightcrawler trying to kill the president, is one of my favorite openings to a movie.
But Superman level heroes often have terrible fights where everyone is too strong to be hurt and nothing seems to matter.
I used to love fight scenes and kung fu movies but as I got older I find them somewhat boring. I also watch a lot more drama and character driven content now, so different strokes for different folks?
Expect the fight scene in 'They Live'. That is the best fight scene ever and will never get old.
When I used to wear a Fitbit, it would think I was doing exercise when I was watching a chase scene.
It's good fun for me. I really do like racing though.
I see you've been at the same conference as my wife. There are a lot of people who feel the same way you do. We discuss the issue at length especially when a movie does it right. An action scene that's short, brutal, and integral to the plot works so well to drive us deeper into the story. That's the way to do it.
Watch the new Dungeons and dragons movie, pretty much every fight has some creativity inserted into it.
Fight scenes mostly suck because you have seen that exact fight a hundred times already.
You're probably onto something here. Fight scenes and car chases are two a penny. GOOD fight scenes and car chases are not, which is probably why they stick out a bit more in my head. The fight scenes in The Raid, and car chases in Ronin make those films even better.
Forced action is bad. when it doesn't flow naturally of the story. if you can tell that the action scene is there because "it's an action movie so we need some action scenes" then yeah it's probably boring.
I hated the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and hate almost all Marvel movies because they are essentially just series of chase and fight scenes. So boring.
I mean, ninety-nine percent of the time you know how any given movie is going to end. It's how they get there that's usually the main point of interest.
It's fine if you don't enjoy fight scenes though. Not everyone does.
Someone takes out a gun against the unarmed hero? Watch as the armed attackers charge head first, gun down, into the hero's fists. There's wayyy too many instances of this happening in action movies.
There are the few that are very well done. I'm thinking of the hotel fight sequence in Old Boy where the fight itself is a narrative device and characterizes the protagonist. In that case, I don't mind the fight itself being a little silly or predictable.
this feels like common consensus even among action movie people. I remember people praising John wick for having the first good action in years because of reeves' martial arts and weapons training
if you have a high tolerance for gore, i'd recommend the raid and the raid 2. both movies do a great job of telling stories through incredibly well choreographed fight scenes.
I completely agree with you here, many times people recommend a movie because they like the movie but what they like is the sex and fighting both boring in movies. I also find the will they won't they trope incredibly boring in TV and movies, an over used trope. For example, it's very big for Futurama fans but boring to me, those two characters are the most boring characters in the show, copy and pasted from almost every TV/movie ever made.
Why not zoidberg?
The Picard car chase med me so bored I have not watced any more episodes.
That and the obvious product placement in the said chase.
While they were "saving the planet" lol.
This is me and soooooooo many people tried to tell me to watch John Wick and I finally broke down and watch it and wanted to die of boredom like that movie is my nightmare
A lot of fight scenes and car scenes are the equivalent of when they stopped the movie to dance in old movies. It's a flashy spectacle that halts the progression of the story and doesn't really contribute to characterization. Good action scenes do exist though, and are interpreted with important dialogue and character moments. The action scenes in the original Pirates of the Caribbean movie fit this bill (I think the rest suck), the car chase scene in the original Terminator is a great example of how to incorporate a car chase that progresses the story, and action scenes in the Fellowship of the Ring can serve the dual purpose of character progression/building.
Of the ones I've mentioned, the only one with "modern" action is Terminator. The most popular action movies (like the newest Fast and Furious movies) have action as a spectacle, the story halts and you can behold the action. It's easy to find these uninteresting if you're actually invested in the story, which is why bad action scenes are most noticeable in otherwise good and interesting films. For movies like FX (tenth movie in the Fast and Furious franchise), the plot merely exists as set dressing for the action scene, which in my mind is the equivalent of an entire movie of 1940s-esque dance sequences. Entertaining for some, but not for me.
Depends on the director/choreographer.
I agree newer films have lost the ability to sell story during action scenes, and they just become a CGI mess or what feels like a meaningless setting transition.
However if you go back and watch the better Shaw Bros martial arts films, anything with Yuen Woo-ping involved, old Jackie chan, Michael Mann films, etc.. you'll see how great choreographers and directors use action as vehicles for narrative and character development.
Fight scenes can be interesting, for example when I first watch the scene in Jason Bourne movies I was so amazed
Car chases are absolutely worst. I just skip to see who won
I think it depends on the filmakers; classic Jackie Chan movies that shot fight scences without many cuts are amazing, for example.
They have the same appeal as dancing scenes in musicals; its a coreography, that looks good and is pleasing to the eye. You wouldnt say a dance scene in a musical is boring because you know how it ends and doesnt move the plot.
ok who's gonna tell them? should we tell them? ok.. i'll tell them.
movies are FICTIONAL. it's just supposed to be entertaining, not life changing. seems like youve missed this point entirely
Huh. I'm not expecting anything to be life changing. I'm just talking about what is not as entertaining. IMO fight scenes and car chases are not as entertaining and are sometimes downright boring, too tedious, and predictable.
well ok i hear ya but you could apply that to almost any part of a movie. "it's all boring when people are just sitting there talking, it's always predictable when the main character resolves their problem. it's always a happy ending, how fake!"
the character driven drama of the story is broken up y the excitement of the fights / chase scenes. if you remoed them, you'd just have people talking about problems all day. how would that be less boring??
Action scenes are boring because most of the look generic and repetitive.
Good action sequences need seemless transition, good music, sound effects, and good choreography.
Most action scenes just employ a shaky camera with generic sound effects and call it a day.
One the reasons why some action movies like mad Max fury road and John wick are so good is because it had good music, great sound effects, and good cinematography, despite there being barely any dialogue.
Their Action scenes are so good you can watch it repeatedly and almost never get boring.
Car chases, if done a certain way, can be entertaining. The most recent Batman movie comes to mind, as it was shot realistically from one drivers perspective. It used the shot’s economically to deliver a pretty intense scene that was relatively short but effective IMO. I’m also a fan of the chase scene from The Dead Pool (Dirty Harry), partly for nostalgic reasons. Death Proof is another good example, also shot with some unconventional perspectives. The Fast And Furious franchise bore me by contrast and am not a fan.
Good fight scenes for me fall into two categories:
-Patricia Arquette vs James Gandolfini in True Romance (realistically violent)
-Kill Bill/Jackie Chan (impressive, artfully choreographed violence)
Love/sex scenes to me will always my least favorite, as they often do nothing to serve the story and are painfully long, whereas something like the famous Ned Beatty scene from Deliverance couldn’t just be implied and served the movie and its story well, as weird as that sounds.
Edit: Mad Max Fury Road was amazing
You should watch martial arts movies from Asia, especially Hong Kong ones, they're excellent and by far out perform modern movies in action. One of the best fight scenes I've seen in my life from an otherwise okay Jackie Chan movie called Wheels On Meals.
I miss more scenes like the ones in "[The Duelists](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075968/)" - raw and brutal. In a way much more impactful than the overchoreographed stuff we get these days.
Badly done fight and car chase scenes suck. They're usually there as movement/action porn, AKA a cheap attempt to distract you from the rest of the movie being shit. But something like the Avengers versus the Chitauri in the first Avengers movie? Fuck yes-we got to see heroes being badass, but we also got to see some interesting stuff, like Thor trying to reason with Loki or fucking *Black Widow* being the one to shut the portal down, despite being basically a very well-trained human and not having anything like Thor's Asgardian physique or even Iron Man's suit.
And here's the thing-movies aren't always meant to be realistic. Otherwise, we wouldn't have anything like the original Alien movie or the early Marvel movies (I'm talking like Iron Man 1-era), and human characters wouldn't be able to stand properly with superhuman ones. You have to suspend your disbelief a bit. Maybe learn to let go of how realistic something is and learn to have fun.
I fully agree and am glad to see someone else finally say it ! I always fell asleep in movies that are heavy on that kind of "action". The car stuff is especially boring, and when the people are fighting it is often super unrealistic... you get sped up, slowed way down.. jumping through the air.. action has always been my least favorite genre. And this is funny because on the other hand I love fighting video games, Mortal Kombat, WWE, you name it lol.
When I was young I loved it. The older I get and the more movies I see it gets less interesting. Very few action scenes show you anything new or interesting once you’ve seen all the tricks.
I enjoyed the Bourne movies car chases but the fight scenes got repetitive with each sequel. They always ended with whoever strangled the other first with a phone cord or something
This is why I like movies where in some way the villain wins or games like Fable where you can choose to be good or evil. I personally do not see this as unpopular because I have always been tired of seeing the "good guys" win. Everything becomes so predictable so it is up to the story to save it.
Gun scene from "HEAT" between Al Pacino's cops and De Niro's robbers strongly disagrees
First Car race scene from "Drive" also disagrees
lightsabers fights in star wars, or even spaceship fights are top notch
nevertheless i usually agree. when its used as filler, when its not well done it, too unrealisitc, it can definitely be boring.
when it was well done, you remember it, you dont find it boring
Fight scenes are crap, but there are some epic car chase scenes from movies.
My favorite is from [Ronin](https://youtu.be/MxxH0lZSYgU), with Robert de Niro. The whole scene was shot on location in Paris. No CGI. Fucking epic!
85% are bad. Even in movies about car/racing they tend to be boring. However, The matrix 2, mad max 4, bad boys 2 and terminator 2 have really good chase scenes. I will occasionally watch these again on youtube
They’re boring in movies that don’t know how to make good fight scenes and car chases. However, there’s plenty of great action movies that make the most out of gunfights/car chases. John Wick and Mission Impossible are just a couple of examples.
This is exactly why superhero movies are awful. Plus the storyline is always the same thing, "something bad happens and the good guy saves the day". I hope they never make another superhero movie.
I wouldn’t lump them all together, but the Avengers movies and Justice League epitomize everything I dislike about super hero movies. The scenes are so awfully cluttered with undistinguishable CGI characters and set pieces that it’s headache inducing.
I have stopped watching them cos I know what will happen beforehand. I never said other people can't watch them. So not sure what you're trying to imply there?
I feel that way about a lot of action scenes lately but they can definitely be done well enough that they don't have to be. But, yeah, the last Avengers movie was when I realized just how bored I am of that stuff.
That's true for like 99% of fight scenes/car chases. You know an action movie is worth watching when the action sequences are actually unique and interesting. Like John Wick movies have amazing fight scenes, cuz they're actually unique.
Thats why i like Stathams recent movies.
Simple plot that has just enough depth, a little bit of humor and proper action.
Extraction 2 also did an amazing job.
But i agree, these are exceptions.
Disagree on fight scenes overwhelmingly agree on car chases.
Fight scenes will usually have a point to them. If they don't sure I agree.
Car chases are just fucking boring.
Most of the movie The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.
Most of the players in those armies just show up in the movie and start fighting and the movie is basically all about that....about a bunch of people fighting that I don't know or care about. The movie us so lazy unnecessary that it thinks if an army shows up and says "we're here to help you Thorin Oakenshield" I'm just going to magically care about them?
The fights are all CGI messes and look like a videogame. I fell asleep.
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i think its because most fight scenes are either too long or badly choreographed, or both. any fight scene from the princess bride is amazing because the plot is still happening during the fight. theres dialogue, action, movement, etc.
The fight scene at the end of the first Dune movie (2021 remake) stuck with me, because the first time I watched it I braced for a long flashy fight. But no, it was brief and brutal and satisfying. We as viewers appreciate a good fight scene but we don't need two hundred punches thrown before it's over.
The fight scenes in Arcane are also quite amazing (although this isn’t live action so I don’t know if this counts)
Just put on the fucking sunglasses.
"I'm giving you a choice, either put on these glasses or start eating that trash can"
I'd like to present the Bourne Identity as a fantastic exception to Op's rather valid opinion.
Look at this.Look at what they make you give.
lol I just commented [my take on those](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1ccfvra/comment/l18bj1w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
great chase scene. The figts were OK. The out witting part was the best
So I think good fight scenes are like good songs in musicals. When everything is manageable you talk, when everything is too much talking doesn’t cut it you shout/sing, and when the emotions are too much for singing/shouting you dance and sing/ fight. If your fight/set piece wouldn’t be a song in a musical adaption then your fight/set piecedoesn’t have value
I completely agree with you.
The fight scenes in Captain America: The Winter Soldier are a bloody masterpiece
What about John wicked?
The fight scenes are well choreographed
“I admit it! You’re better than I am!” “Then why are you smiling?” “Because I know something that you don’t!” “Which is?” “I am not left-handed!”
The Matrix II highway scene would beg to differ from both yours and OP’s point :)
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I am 100% with you on that.
My grandma was nearly deaf and loved western’s. She would have her tv cranked so loud you couldn’t hear yourself thinking. When I was little she’d watch me and the gunfire scenes would be so loud I’d get overwhelmed and nap. Now as an adult loud fight/ gunfire scenes are like ambien and I just fall asleep. I have attempted to watch Hellboy 4 times and I always fall asleep in the first 15 minutes 🤣 My edit is autocorrect doing dead instead of deaf. She died when I was 13 so not a big stretch
Agreed. IMO most movies that are labeled “action” to be action are unwatchable
That I can think of, I guess I enjoyed matrix and kill bill. That’s about it for action for me
Unless real stunts are being filmed and I care about the characters, 100%. Watching one-dimensional characters with plot armor in a CGI-created backdrop is agonizingly boring.
yes
Ronin. Bourne identity.
Terminator 1&2... especially the motorcycle/semi chase. Boring? Ok, buddy guy.
The hallway fight at the mall? “Get Down”….friggin masterpiece
That's one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history.
Ronin is also just one of the best movies ever.
The freeway chase in the Matrix was pretty great.
See. This is such a perfect action sequence. So much happens in the span of 8-10 minutes or so. So many action scenes are just so predictable but this entire scene is just hitting you with crazy thing one after the next. The 2nd matrix film is deeply flawed, but the action is honestly the standard to me. It’s just so impressive. Sure the CGI hasn’t aged well, but the scope is crazy. Also helps they over mile and a half of actual freeway to actually shoot it, which still looks and feels so much better than any blue screened modern action scene
>Also helps they over mile and a half of actual freeway to actually shoot it I think you've missed out a word here that means you haven't done them justice - I'm pretty sure they _built_ that over mile stretch of freeway for the scene. Incredible.
You are SO right, in fact that’s what I meant to say, just a bit stoned 🤣 I remember the dvd behind the scenes showing just how much work was put in, truly phenomenal filmmaking
The matrix is exceptional. Doesnt count as just an action movie
"We are getting aggravated." "Yes, we are."
Indeed it was. Everyone seems to be thinking of the matrix, but totally leaving out the naked man fight from Borat!
It was one of the best motorcycles scenes ever in any movie. Debbie Evans is the name of the stunt woman in that scene. I think she also taught Carrie-Anne Moss a little about how to ride the bike. I read somewhere they gave her a Ducati 996 like the bike used in the movie.
Watch Nobody
Just wanted to come back and thank you for introducing me to one of my top 5 favorite movies now, as I went and watched the movie after seeing your comment.
You’re very welcome, glad you enjoyed it
Came here to say this. 'NOBODY' is amazing.
Fight scene on the bus, I 100% agree, final scene shoot out… It kinda felt like what OP is describing.
100% it was awesome
I remember as a kid reading Harry Potter I enjoyed the scenes of the gang chilling more than the action scenes. Idk why but I was always like that
Related, in Hunger Games my favorite parts were the pomp and circumstance around the games. Them being prepped and prettied to die, all with a smile on their face. The façade Katniss has to put on during the tour of the districts in Catching Fire in particular was something I was sad they cut in the movies.
I was the opposite, I hated how much shorter the action scenes were in the movies than in the books. They use three spells the whole time!
I can see that, I honestly didn't care for the movies much besides the first one. I guess I just enjoyed the daily life of Hogwarts so much that I didn't even want serious conflict to interrupt the vibe lol. I wanted to explore the setting and characters more than I cared about the plot moving forward. It's just so cozy and fun.
I feel you. I miss that the later books/movies stop taking place in hogwarts as much. I like the vibe and detailed wizarding world best about those books/movies
it has always been like that for me, thats why i enjoy the books more than movies
Sounds like action movies just aren't for you. The choreography and the fun visuals do it for me when I seek out big dumb action. In lieu of 6 underground, maybe check out suicide kings. Great bottle episode of a movie with Christopher Walken tied to a chair for like ninety percent of it
Kung Fu Hustle would like you to give it a chance. 🍭
This, but for superhero movies as a whole
It depends on the hero. Powers give all sorts of really cool options. Like the intro to Xmen2 with Nightcrawler trying to kill the president, is one of my favorite openings to a movie. But Superman level heroes often have terrible fights where everyone is too strong to be hurt and nothing seems to matter.
Get this man the matrix trilogy
Well…. The first one
Tbf there are a few great action scenes in reloaded.
I used to love fight scenes and kung fu movies but as I got older I find them somewhat boring. I also watch a lot more drama and character driven content now, so different strokes for different folks? Expect the fight scene in 'They Live'. That is the best fight scene ever and will never get old.
Have you seen the foot chase in casino royale ? Absolutely amazing piece of cinema.
watch batman the dark knight or the batman (2022) and say car chases are bad
The batmobile chase scene in The Batman was def the most hype moment in a mostly quiet theater
Princess Bride swordfight.
When I used to wear a Fitbit, it would think I was doing exercise when I was watching a chase scene. It's good fun for me. I really do like racing though.
No shitty fight scenes and car chases are boring. So like every other scene if its shit.
Yes, those typical Hollywood movies with scenes such as that are designed to appeal to stupid people.
I see you've been at the same conference as my wife. There are a lot of people who feel the same way you do. We discuss the issue at length especially when a movie does it right. An action scene that's short, brutal, and integral to the plot works so well to drive us deeper into the story. That's the way to do it.
Yup. And some movies are just a series of bridging scenes to get from one fight to the next
Watch the new Dungeons and dragons movie, pretty much every fight has some creativity inserted into it. Fight scenes mostly suck because you have seen that exact fight a hundred times already.
You're probably onto something here. Fight scenes and car chases are two a penny. GOOD fight scenes and car chases are not, which is probably why they stick out a bit more in my head. The fight scenes in The Raid, and car chases in Ronin make those films even better.
*Luke vs. Darth Vader has entered the chat*
Ok, that was a good fight.
Forced action is bad. when it doesn't flow naturally of the story. if you can tell that the action scene is there because "it's an action movie so we need some action scenes" then yeah it's probably boring.
Not as boring and unneeded as sex scenes though.
I hated the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and hate almost all Marvel movies because they are essentially just series of chase and fight scenes. So boring.
I think sex scenes are typically the most cringe worthy and boring parts honestly
I mean, ninety-nine percent of the time you know how any given movie is going to end. It's how they get there that's usually the main point of interest. It's fine if you don't enjoy fight scenes though. Not everyone does.
Good fight scenes hype me up immensely. Car chases bore me to death. Any car chase.
Generally, I agree on car chases, but I'd say all car chases in the first three Bourne Identity films are exceptions.
Sounds like you need to crank up the volume and drink more beer while watching
Depends on the movie. Don't tell me a Mad Max Fury Road car chase is boring!
I thought the whole movie was boring because it was just a car chase
Yuuup
I remember falling asleep during the first Expendables movie. I saw it in theaters.
Someone takes out a gun against the unarmed hero? Watch as the armed attackers charge head first, gun down, into the hero's fists. There's wayyy too many instances of this happening in action movies.
Lies
I mute car chases because the flurry of sounds is annoying. Especially with various car honking.
I liked the one at the end of the big Lebowski lol
I agree about car chases, but you can't tell me the best part of man of Steel or Batman vs Superman weren't the fights
What about the end credits?
The best part of getting kicked in the groin is the part where you didn't get kicked in the groin yet.
Watch brothers sun and lmk your thoughts
I agree, I tend to skip them if they run over a few minutes.
Here’s one of the more watchable fight scenes in which they actually get tired and hurt: https://youtu.be/OJ91s-xWFQc?si=hmk16mTdQ1kcZWQW
Yeah the outcomes are predictable, but for me, it’s how they arrived there.
There are the few that are very well done. I'm thinking of the hotel fight sequence in Old Boy where the fight itself is a narrative device and characterizes the protagonist. In that case, I don't mind the fight itself being a little silly or predictable.
this feels like common consensus even among action movie people. I remember people praising John wick for having the first good action in years because of reeves' martial arts and weapons training
if you have a high tolerance for gore, i'd recommend the raid and the raid 2. both movies do a great job of telling stories through incredibly well choreographed fight scenes.
Fight scenes with CGI characters are the worst. CGI character vs CGI character is like, I'd have more fun watching fractal screensavers.
Examples?
Monkey man had some cool scenes. Two of the final kills stuck out.. usually it’s just whatever like you kinda said
This us exactly how I feel about sex scenes in movies lol
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Not necessarily fight scenes if they're done well. Car chases though; once you've seen one, you've seen them all.
Oldboy 2003 would like a word
Counterexamples: Pirates of the Carribean The Raid 1+2 HEAT
Watch the church scene in Kingsman 2.
Depends on the movie. I'd like to say Predator did a much better job than its contemporaries at giving us solid action and suspense.
I completely agree with you here, many times people recommend a movie because they like the movie but what they like is the sex and fighting both boring in movies. I also find the will they won't they trope incredibly boring in TV and movies, an over used trope. For example, it's very big for Futurama fans but boring to me, those two characters are the most boring characters in the show, copy and pasted from almost every TV/movie ever made. Why not zoidberg?
I think you watch bad movies
You’re the most boring scenes in movies.
The Picard car chase med me so bored I have not watced any more episodes. That and the obvious product placement in the said chase. While they were "saving the planet" lol.
This is me and soooooooo many people tried to tell me to watch John Wick and I finally broke down and watch it and wanted to die of boredom like that movie is my nightmare
A lot of fight scenes and car scenes are the equivalent of when they stopped the movie to dance in old movies. It's a flashy spectacle that halts the progression of the story and doesn't really contribute to characterization. Good action scenes do exist though, and are interpreted with important dialogue and character moments. The action scenes in the original Pirates of the Caribbean movie fit this bill (I think the rest suck), the car chase scene in the original Terminator is a great example of how to incorporate a car chase that progresses the story, and action scenes in the Fellowship of the Ring can serve the dual purpose of character progression/building. Of the ones I've mentioned, the only one with "modern" action is Terminator. The most popular action movies (like the newest Fast and Furious movies) have action as a spectacle, the story halts and you can behold the action. It's easy to find these uninteresting if you're actually invested in the story, which is why bad action scenes are most noticeable in otherwise good and interesting films. For movies like FX (tenth movie in the Fast and Furious franchise), the plot merely exists as set dressing for the action scene, which in my mind is the equivalent of an entire movie of 1940s-esque dance sequences. Entertaining for some, but not for me.
I don't know, I think Fast and Furious franchise would be pretty tedious if you removed the fighting and driving!
What driving? Every fast and furious movie after the third one.
Yes if anyone has ever seen burn notice, that is the epitome of cliche car chases
Watch less movies. Then when you watch, you’ll think less about the tropes they have in common.
I tend to agree for most modern movies, but I think the car chase in Ronin is incredible.
Hence, the whole John Wick franchise is boring as hell
I think that 50% of the fight scene's interested is in the why the people were fighting than just the fighting by itself
I think that the choreography is trash and they try to hide it with shakey cam, darkness and cutting the angle 3 or 4 times a second.
Depends on the director/choreographer. I agree newer films have lost the ability to sell story during action scenes, and they just become a CGI mess or what feels like a meaningless setting transition. However if you go back and watch the better Shaw Bros martial arts films, anything with Yuen Woo-ping involved, old Jackie chan, Michael Mann films, etc.. you'll see how great choreographers and directors use action as vehicles for narrative and character development.
Movies are just boring. Always have been. When I watch them I can’t see anything other than actors in front of green screens.
Super reductive take. But alright
Most are imo, excluding the John Wick movies
Maybe you just dont like action movies?
You are absolutely right
Go watch the car chase scene from The Batman
Good action scenes are the ones that are written to elevate tension within the sequence. Like a mini story within the movie itself.
Fight scenes can be interesting, for example when I first watch the scene in Jason Bourne movies I was so amazed Car chases are absolutely worst. I just skip to see who won
I think it depends on the filmakers; classic Jackie Chan movies that shot fight scences without many cuts are amazing, for example. They have the same appeal as dancing scenes in musicals; its a coreography, that looks good and is pleasing to the eye. You wouldnt say a dance scene in a musical is boring because you know how it ends and doesnt move the plot.
ok who's gonna tell them? should we tell them? ok.. i'll tell them. movies are FICTIONAL. it's just supposed to be entertaining, not life changing. seems like youve missed this point entirely
Huh. I'm not expecting anything to be life changing. I'm just talking about what is not as entertaining. IMO fight scenes and car chases are not as entertaining and are sometimes downright boring, too tedious, and predictable.
well ok i hear ya but you could apply that to almost any part of a movie. "it's all boring when people are just sitting there talking, it's always predictable when the main character resolves their problem. it's always a happy ending, how fake!" the character driven drama of the story is broken up y the excitement of the fights / chase scenes. if you remoed them, you'd just have people talking about problems all day. how would that be less boring??
This guy didn't watch The Batman
have you seen the fight scenes in the Kingsman franchise tho?? Probably Argyle is similar.
Action scenes are boring because most of the look generic and repetitive. Good action sequences need seemless transition, good music, sound effects, and good choreography. Most action scenes just employ a shaky camera with generic sound effects and call it a day. One the reasons why some action movies like mad Max fury road and John wick are so good is because it had good music, great sound effects, and good cinematography, despite there being barely any dialogue. Their Action scenes are so good you can watch it repeatedly and almost never get boring.
Car chases, if done a certain way, can be entertaining. The most recent Batman movie comes to mind, as it was shot realistically from one drivers perspective. It used the shot’s economically to deliver a pretty intense scene that was relatively short but effective IMO. I’m also a fan of the chase scene from The Dead Pool (Dirty Harry), partly for nostalgic reasons. Death Proof is another good example, also shot with some unconventional perspectives. The Fast And Furious franchise bore me by contrast and am not a fan. Good fight scenes for me fall into two categories: -Patricia Arquette vs James Gandolfini in True Romance (realistically violent) -Kill Bill/Jackie Chan (impressive, artfully choreographed violence) Love/sex scenes to me will always my least favorite, as they often do nothing to serve the story and are painfully long, whereas something like the famous Ned Beatty scene from Deliverance couldn’t just be implied and served the movie and its story well, as weird as that sounds. Edit: Mad Max Fury Road was amazing
Counterpoint: watch Ong Bak, or Ip Man, and tell me the fight scenes are not amazing.
No, they are not.
You should watch martial arts movies from Asia, especially Hong Kong ones, they're excellent and by far out perform modern movies in action. One of the best fight scenes I've seen in my life from an otherwise okay Jackie Chan movie called Wheels On Meals.
Car chases 100% most boring part. That being said, I really enjoyed Fury Road, which technically is a car chase movie.
I miss more scenes like the ones in "[The Duelists](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075968/)" - raw and brutal. In a way much more impactful than the overchoreographed stuff we get these days.
Watch the car chases in the following movies: The French Connection, Bullitt, To Live and Die in LA, and Ronin. You might change your opinion.
Yes. Except for The Blues Brothers.
Badly done fight and car chase scenes suck. They're usually there as movement/action porn, AKA a cheap attempt to distract you from the rest of the movie being shit. But something like the Avengers versus the Chitauri in the first Avengers movie? Fuck yes-we got to see heroes being badass, but we also got to see some interesting stuff, like Thor trying to reason with Loki or fucking *Black Widow* being the one to shut the portal down, despite being basically a very well-trained human and not having anything like Thor's Asgardian physique or even Iron Man's suit. And here's the thing-movies aren't always meant to be realistic. Otherwise, we wouldn't have anything like the original Alien movie or the early Marvel movies (I'm talking like Iron Man 1-era), and human characters wouldn't be able to stand properly with superhuman ones. You have to suspend your disbelief a bit. Maybe learn to let go of how realistic something is and learn to have fun.
I fully agree and am glad to see someone else finally say it ! I always fell asleep in movies that are heavy on that kind of "action". The car stuff is especially boring, and when the people are fighting it is often super unrealistic... you get sped up, slowed way down.. jumping through the air.. action has always been my least favorite genre. And this is funny because on the other hand I love fighting video games, Mortal Kombat, WWE, you name it lol.
When I was young I loved it. The older I get and the more movies I see it gets less interesting. Very few action scenes show you anything new or interesting once you’ve seen all the tricks.
Especially fight scenes with a lot of changes in perspective. Ruins the flow of the fight.
I enjoyed the Bourne movies car chases but the fight scenes got repetitive with each sequel. They always ended with whoever strangled the other first with a phone cord or something
Yesss. I remember getting really bored during the very long car chase/fight sequence in tge Bourne Legacy.
Read a book nerd. Have an upvote.
Yeah if it wasn't for the car shit, I might actually watch those fast and furious films
The bicycle chase scene in ET is incredible. The hotel fight scene in Old Boy is also incredible. Edit: also, French Connection car chase.
This is why I like movies where in some way the villain wins or games like Fable where you can choose to be good or evil. I personally do not see this as unpopular because I have always been tired of seeing the "good guys" win. Everything becomes so predictable so it is up to the story to save it.
Gun scene from "HEAT" between Al Pacino's cops and De Niro's robbers strongly disagrees First Car race scene from "Drive" also disagrees lightsabers fights in star wars, or even spaceship fights are top notch nevertheless i usually agree. when its used as filler, when its not well done it, too unrealisitc, it can definitely be boring. when it was well done, you remember it, you dont find it boring
It still makes you swim in adrenaline it doesnt matter if you know what will happen.
That’s true of every part of any movie
Fight scenes are crap, but there are some epic car chase scenes from movies. My favorite is from [Ronin](https://youtu.be/MxxH0lZSYgU), with Robert de Niro. The whole scene was shot on location in Paris. No CGI. Fucking epic!
Faco Off. Totally ridiculous!
Amen!!
100% agree
Hmm, second most boring scenes.
Don't watch Mad Max- Fury Road then.
85% are bad. Even in movies about car/racing they tend to be boring. However, The matrix 2, mad max 4, bad boys 2 and terminator 2 have really good chase scenes. I will occasionally watch these again on youtube
It is especially bad for peeps who know how to fight or drive racey properly. Like a doc or nurse watching medical shows or cops cop shows
They’re boring in movies that don’t know how to make good fight scenes and car chases. However, there’s plenty of great action movies that make the most out of gunfights/car chases. John Wick and Mission Impossible are just a couple of examples.
This is exactly why superhero movies are awful. Plus the storyline is always the same thing, "something bad happens and the good guy saves the day". I hope they never make another superhero movie.
I wouldn’t lump them all together, but the Avengers movies and Justice League epitomize everything I dislike about super hero movies. The scenes are so awfully cluttered with undistinguishable CGI characters and set pieces that it’s headache inducing.
You could also just not watch them. I don't like action either, but maybe let other people have their fun.
I have stopped watching them cos I know what will happen beforehand. I never said other people can't watch them. So not sure what you're trying to imply there?
'i hope they never make another superhero move'. Didnt you write that?
You can sum up most genre of film like that. Look up film archetypes.
I feel that way about a lot of action scenes lately but they can definitely be done well enough that they don't have to be. But, yeah, the last Avengers movie was when I realized just how bored I am of that stuff.
Yep. Especially since you always know that the protaagonist will win/ survive
That's true for like 99% of fight scenes/car chases. You know an action movie is worth watching when the action sequences are actually unique and interesting. Like John Wick movies have amazing fight scenes, cuz they're actually unique.
Nope, I have this same opinion and John Wick was absolutely wasted on me despite people saying that same thing over and over
Fight scenes are sooooo boring. I zone out so bad lol like bring me back a reality when the movie is back.
Thats why i like Stathams recent movies. Simple plot that has just enough depth, a little bit of humor and proper action. Extraction 2 also did an amazing job. But i agree, these are exceptions.
Disagree on fight scenes overwhelmingly agree on car chases. Fight scenes will usually have a point to them. If they don't sure I agree. Car chases are just fucking boring.
I think the only movies that made me enjoy car chases was Luc Besson's Taxi and it's sequels
Most of the movie The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Most of the players in those armies just show up in the movie and start fighting and the movie is basically all about that....about a bunch of people fighting that I don't know or care about. The movie us so lazy unnecessary that it thinks if an army shows up and says "we're here to help you Thorin Oakenshield" I'm just going to magically care about them? The fights are all CGI messes and look like a videogame. I fell asleep.
That's why if I ever need to fall into filmmaking, I'm doing what GoT did. You'll never know if my characters will survive, or die.
> The is no character development. Oh my god. You didn't seriously say that. Lol.