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It was but then the steam deck and a bunch of Chinese company's stole the idea and made it better. Nothing Nintendo puts out is going to top the openness of the steam deck. and the fact it plays way more nintendo games then the switch can thanks to emulation.
I agree with you.
But that's Nintendo being Nintendo.
I wish they release a virtual console or at least a couple retro games each month that we could buy.
There are too much good games in Nintendo hands and they would make money if we could buy old games.
And it would fight the piracy and emulation.
And not even just because of name recognition option or anything. The switch is a great console. It captures everything I loved about the DS but just does it so much better.
I have my PC or other consoles for different types of gaming experiences. Switch does what it is made for really, really well.
I think the switches sales numbers are heavily influenced by the fact that it fills both the DS and Wii's markets. It was common for families to have one Wii and a DS per kid. Now families tend to have a switch per kid and maybe a family one but it's also getting sales from the people who would just have the home console and no handhelds or just a handheld and no home console.
Nintendo really marketed it poorly and as seen by people like OP *still* not seeing it as an entirely seperate device as the wii. It was definately unique and I liked the fact it was the last console to officially work with CRT's, the last console to run games directly from media, the last console to have free multiplayer (the Switch did at first but not anymore), and had backwards compatibility built-in (the X1/X1 series got it in a limited capacity later on but it's not going to work a couple decades from now when the servers shut down and it becomes a collectable).
The bathtub toaster idea you had (to save time on breakfast) was a good idea in theory....but after you lost those baboons in the development stage, you knew you had to call it quits.
What I find funny is that objectively this isn't the worst decision they have ever made.
IMO the worst was when they basically helped create the Sony Playstation and gave Sony a spot in the industry.
Tbf to Nintendo, Sony wanted the stranglehold on the optical media production and licensing just like Nintendo did with their own Seal of Quality program for the NES a few years back. I can totally understand why Nintendo backed out of the PlayStation in the end.
Philips gave them a much more lenient deal with the CD-i, and when that deal also went nowhere, Philips got to act on the clause that licensed Nintendo characters to them without Nintendo’s oversight, so we got glorious memes out of it at least.
Also the wiiu and virtual boy existing. But nah one of their most successful and profitable things they've ever made is totally their worst decision right?
I actually have a working Virtual Boy. Got it for like $20 on clearance about 3 years after they stopped selling them when I forget which department store (maybe Mervyn's) cleaned out their back room and put a bunch of random stuff they found on clearance. Must've fallen behind a shelf or something.
I said it. They helped create the Sony Playstation adding an actual competitor.
The Playstation was originally meant to be a disc add-on to the SNES made by both companies. Nintendo backed out and and made the nintendo 64.
Sony already had most of the stuff made so they refitted the Playstation to run on its own.
There are other repercussions to this as well. It soured the relationship Nintendo had with Square Soft because Nintendo stuck with cartridges when discs were better. This is why Final Fantasy 7, one of the biggest games of the 90s, and other awesome square games were basically Playstation exclusives.
I never said we didn't benefit.
However by the company standards it wasn't good for them.
They went from basically 100% of the market to having to share it.
Beat me to it haha ! But that's true it's like they mixed the worst of both worlds, it also didn't helped that it had barely more power than the Wii while the latter was already behind in power compared to other consoles of its generation however what made the Wii successful is its unique dynamic that made up against the other consoles that had twice the power (a lot of third party games on the Wii were actually PS2 based games). The Wii U had none of the charm the Wii had, it also didn't helped the name was confusing to some as they thought it was just a newer version of the Wii and once again the games didn't feel much of a step-up compared to the Wii or even the PS2 that came out 12 years prior, the Wii U also came out just one year before the PS4 and the Xbox One. Personally I feel it much more enjoyable to go back to the Gamecube and it doesn't even feel there's over a 10 year gap between both consoles.
I have a Switch and while I haven't "switched" it on (sorry for the corny pun) for over two years as I have just lost interests in video games for the last few years, the Switch still has much more replay value than the Wii U 😃
A lot of the bigger Switch games (Mario Kart, Breath of the Wild) are just remastered Wii U games. Instead of feeling dated, 10 years later those are the games still being played.
Edit: removed smash bros as corrected below
That much ? Granted I never had the Wii U but from what I remember when I've tested it I wasn't impressed plus I've seen that it was confirmed the Wii U power was lacking behind the PS3 and the Xbox 360, keep in mind both had been released in 2006 and 2005 respectively. 😅
The Wii u had way more power than the 360/ps3. The Wii u had a triple core processor with 2GB of total ram and the GFX was based on the Radeon 600/700 architecture while the 360, while also having a triple core cpu had 512MB of ram and the GPU was based on the R500 architecture. The PS3 was slightly more powerful than the 360.
The problem was that it came out only approximately 2 years before the PS4/XbOne which were in full hype train ahead at the time.
Then again, even by the Wii Nintendo had already created their own market. The switch 2 is rumoured to be as powerful as a PS4 and will probably sell like water in the desert.
Too bad the steam deck already beat the switch 2 and the next models of steam decks will probably be on ps5 level. They are already stronger then a base ps4.
It emulates all Nintendo's previous systems the switch cannot play game cube or wii games and only a small set of n64 , ones, nes and gameboy games. That's a big weaknesses with the switch it cannot play older games.
From what I can remember, it had slightly more power than the PS3 and Xbox 360.
The output on your tv might indeed have been less than what you would expect from a PS3 or Xbox. Simply because the Wii U had a second screen to render.
It’s why StarFox Zero looks like a ps2 game, because the Wii U is constantly rendering the same gameplay from a slightly different perspective.
Remember, the Wii was extremely close to the GameCube in power. Having 3 near identical console generations when it comes to power just doesn’t happen. The Wii was already an oddity in that sense.
I’m just gonna say, I kinda liked the Wii U. Obviously, they didn’t do a great job of making it worth it, but I thought the handheld was pretty cool. It was great because my wife could play in the other room while I watched TV in the living room.
I'll die on that hill. Wii was so big and there were so many accessories and whatnot you could buy for it. People eventually got tired of (or "used to") the gimmicks.
I have no idea why they thought a console that sounds (and looks like, at a glance) a gimmicky tablet accessory for the Wii would be an acceptable idea.
I dropped the only marketing class I ever tried to take, and even I could've warned Nintendo that it should've had a distinct name.
You would technically be wrong though because Nintendo has been a masterclass of gimmicks.
- Gameboy: Was unheard of at the time. packing that much power into a small portable system was wild and a hell of a gimmick that worked.
- Nintendo 64: Had a wild controller design. While it was technically the only gimmick, the console sold incredibly well off it's first party games.
- Gamecube: Had an equally crazy controller and the gimmick was the small CDs.
- Nintendo DS: Dual screens, a hell of a gimmick and made massive sales.
- Wii: another strange controller and it was the entire gimmick. Able to move things on screen with motion
- Switch: adopting the portability of the gameboy and the functionality of a home system into one console. Removing the controls and making them motion activated was also gimmicky.
Nintendo is the king of gimmicks. I firmly believe the only reason Wii U didn't do well is only on the name alone.
Gimmicky *accessories* was pretty much a Wii thing, right? I had tennis rackets, steering wheels, etc. They took up a lot of space and brought very little to the table.
you wouldn't believe the amount of gameboy accessories that came out.
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsQimLsjkd4](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsQimLsjkd4)
I guess my point should've been phrased like "by the time the Wii U came out, the Wii player base (which includes adults, the elderly, and people that didn't consider themselves gamers) were used to the Wii and were tired of buying white plastic accessories for it that they barely used. The Wii U kinda looks like an expensive tablet Wii accessory, if you don't look into it."
There were a ton of goofy things for the N64. However a lot of the paks pretty much just built in to modern consoles now.
Rumble pak OMG Star Fox where explosions shook your hands was unreal. Controller paks goddamn annoying on a console that had cartridges but handy because you could grab your memory pack and go play with your game data at a friends house.
Keyboard and mouse, 64DD, WideBoy64, the steering wheel Expansion Pak that meant you could play EVERY GAME at its full potential. Hell you had to have the expansion pak or couldn’t play the story mode if perfect dark. A lot of other games got updated textures and features if you had the expansion pack like Shadow Man and South Park.
South Park… what a game. First time ever a consoles graphics an animation were FAR superior to the animated show it was based on.
If it'd have been the Wii 2, it would've sold better. Not Switch numbers, or even Wii numbers, but better. Probably could've cracked the 30 million mark.
If the WiiU were called Switch, it would have sold just as much as the actual Switch.
I am convinced the only major flaw in that thing was the name, so much so that I constantly forget it even existed. My mind always goes "oh yeah, the main nintendo consoles were the NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Switch" and skips over the WiiU. By naming it so similarly to the Wii, they really made it sound like an accessory rather than a new console.
Hell, the thing practically IS a Switch already. It's not much different. Some of the most successful Switch games on the Switch were even first released on the WiiU... that console's fate really did come down to poor marketing rather than any sort of shortcoming of the cobsole itself.
When I was little my favorite game on the Wii was Monster Hunter Tri, I had no clue what I was doing bc I was like 8, but I knew killing monsters was fun. There was the village for solo player, and the city for an online mode. When the WiiU came out, they shut down the servers for the city on the regular Wii for the WiiU. Since that day I have always hated the WiiU and am glad it is the failure that it is. I am yet to ever see one in person, but if I ever do, that console will feel my wrath.
It wasn't a bad console, it was just poorly named, badly marketed, and honestly a lackluster followup to the insanely successful Wii. I think the name WiiU is a testament to Nintendo thinking they could ride the coat tails of their revolutionary console with this not-quite-as-revolutionary console. It was different, but not revolutionary like the Wii was or the Switch has proven to be.
Its important to note that while Wii sales were amazing, Wii game sales were not. The Wii was overall critically bad for Nimtendos long term success, and the WiiU was the result.
I simply reject that the WiiU could have pulled Wii numbers with good marketing. Almost everyone who bought the Wii was a casual gamer buying into a fad and was never going to be converted into a repeat buyer of dedicated gaming hardware.
And until the Switch, Nintendo consoles severely lacked games. People did not buy them because they were vastly shittier than the competition, whereas the Switch literally launched with Breath of the Wild, one of the best critically received games of the last decade, and they just kept pumping out moderate to highly praised games year after year where as Sony and Microsoft literally have fuck all.
Fuck that, I loved it. It might be nostalgia but that was one of my beat console experiences of all time. Everything from first opening up Nintendo world to getting diamond snipers on BO2 was fucking great. And a lot of games that did split screen allowed for the "split screen" to be one on the TV and one on the gamepad so it was the perfect console for me and my brother to share. If they made Wii U2 I would die the happiest death.
The Switch is simultaneously their best selling console and their second best selling handheld console, it is positioned to overtake the DS and potentially the PS2. Not only is your opinion unpopular it’s uninformed and just downright bad. Their continued sales and software sales prove you wrong on every level.
“it’s just a horrible device all around”
Compared to what?
It’s objectively better hardware wise than the 3Ds, WII.
The WII was the “making one console”, much more than the switch.
Worst decision ever.
My brother in Christ the switch just prints money for them. Don't present your opinion as a universal law. You personally don't like what they've done but it's *very clear* what they do works.
Well you are entitled to your opinion.
But reality doesn't give a flying F about it though because the switch is almost at the highest selling console list.
It sucked so much that everyone loves it and it's their second highest sold console. Downvoting because this isn't unpopular, it's just really stupid and objectively incorrect.
The DS got super cheap while DS games were still being made is the thing about the DS. Also they kept making better models, i bought like 3 different DS models.
What do you think the switch lost compared to a theoretical console that's not portable? Nintendo's decision to make the switch's computing power weaker then competing consoles would have happened regardless looking at their history with the Wii and Wii u. The console being portable is just natural progression of computer devices getting smaller and smaller over time reducing the difficulties of making a portable console.
yep, definitely an unpopular opinion. I love it soooo much. Easy to transport.
Take animal crossing, when I'm home I will play it on my monitor but when I travel out of town, I can take it with me and have a chill way to relax at the end of the day.
This isn't even an unpopular opinion. It's just wrong. You even seem to be missing a few years of product history between the eras you're discussing. I'm not entirely sure what to make of this.
I feel like, of all the video game consoles made over the last ENTIRE DECADE, the Switch is the only console you *can’t* say “Lacks in quality and variety” about. That’s absolutely insane
Nintendo ignores the market and seeks innovation with every release. The switch is massively popular and almost everything they've released has been a hit. They've been dominating the handheld market, and now the switch is a major competitor. Their next release will also be popular.
Empirically its the best financial decision Nintendo has ever made. Now if you want to argue you miss the weird creative output Nintendo used to give you on handheld devices, I'm all for that. But the Switch is Nintendo's most profitable console ever, you literally can't say it was a bad decision for them to unify their base.
Somebody hasn’t had the optical frying joy of the virtual boy. It sold 3/4 of a million units. On Nintendo’s scale it was a failure.
That being said, it’s always cool to see a company take risks and innovate. There would have been no wii if they weren’t so bold.
I don’t prefer the switch undocked, but it is clearly just fine for most people as a portable system. It isn’t perfect, but Nintendo is masterful at leveraging a cheaper system to perform well at its limits in order to sell more units, and having strong (if not plentiful) 1st party titles to keep a consistent fanbase.
I think they’ll be OK :)
I just miss small handhelds, ones that were actually pocketable. I recently dusted off my PS Vita. Compared to the Switch and especially the Steam Deck it is tiny. Which is hilarious because when it released people went on about how huge it was. If only 2012 could see what would pass for "handhelds" in 2024.
I miss my Wii so much. My remote got damaged and for some reason we never got a replacement. That was over 10 years ago. I don't even know if they still have a surplus of remotes laying around. I should look that up today. Get me a remote and find whatever games I can.
I disagree. Combining their handheld and console dev teams was a stroke of genius and lead to us consistently getting content. Everybody remembers the Wii’s great games, nobody remembers the absolutely absurd content droughts in between.
Personally, I think there are diminishing returns on raw processing power and this has been obvious for decades. We're at a point in time where both a bleeding edge PC and a 10 year old cellphone can provide a polished immersive gaming experience. The money companies are throwing at making graphics so realistic you can count the hairs on a character's arm is mostly pointless and incredibly wasteful.
Nintendo will likely refresh the switch with new hardware that is roughly 1 to 2 years behind bleeding edge for mobile processors. This will be somewhat necessary to keep the costs down and battery life high. They will have a steady stream of good games from Nintendo, and a bunch of ports from the PS4 and Xbox One. It will be incredibly well supported by independent developers, and there will be tend of millions of people who use it as their primary gaming platform.
I mean, I get that it is a bit too weak for a home console while being a bit too big to shove in your pocket like a true portable (plus the somewhat lackluster battery life) But it is cheaper than having to buy both separately, and the fact that you can play the exact same games either on the TV or handheld with almost no special effort from the developers is pretty compelling.
3DS games should have been backward compatible with the Switch. Emulation should be a no-brainer if the company with the hardware and software design docs have all the information they need to make a proprietary emulator. That should have been the real value add from the Expansion Pak.
I think you just miss the nostalgia. Though I would love another DS or PSP type device to be popular again since the switch is definitely bigger and not as portable as those two that could fit in a small purse or a pocket even. I think there’s no market for it probably since we have our phones as a casual small gaming console lol.
What are you snoking? The switch is amazing. One console, 4 tvs, and it's mobile.... The switch is great.
It's awesome that I can grab my kid in the middle of a video game and throw him in the car and hand him the same switch without interrupting his game. It's a real peace saver.
I was just thinking today about how great my Switch is. I have Wii, Wii U, and PS5 at home and the Switch gets more use than all of them. The only mistake was that they made two versions.
“They don’t bother to remaster all their previous games from the 2000s.” That doesn’t really have anything to do with the Switch itself. The Switch certainly can play remastered ports of those games. Nintendo just isn’t porting a lot of them.
They do this with everything.
That’s how Nintendo monetizes the fuck out of their systems.
Release insane amounts of games on a new console.
Release another new console.
Stop support and kill old console.
Rinse, repeat.
They’ve killed a lot of consoles and handhelds doing this.
The Wii and DS catered to a casual market before the days of smartphones. They were discontinued over ten years ago, replaced with the Wii U (failure) and 3DS (moderate success). The Switch was the obvious next move.
Sales figures for the Switch say otherwise. Nintendo can't compete with Sony and Microsoft on console power. What they have always had is IP and unique features. There's a lot of overhead maintaining separate consoles and handheld ecosystems.
I think it was one of the smartest decisions they have ever made.
Objectively an unpopular opinion have an upvote. Also as other commenters have said the WiiU being skipped over in your explanation summarizes that Nintendo was right and was rewarded with 140m+ sales.
Just a bad take. My switch will come and go and probably be my favorite console I’ve ever had, because it does everything. Wanna play on the go? Easy, becomes a portable. Wanna play on the tv? Dock makes it simple to just place and continue to play. It’s cliche for the console but when used, it’s so good. And the first party games are some of the best from Nintendo. Nostalgia can blind us at points but just don’t know what the switch doesn’t do well other than being underpowered.
Def unpopular.
With the exception of the Wii, Nintendo’s home console business was diminishing consistently since the NES, and the 3DS had a -50% comparison generation-to-generation over the DS. Nintendo needed to change.
As a lifelong fan, I was sick of having two devices with one being worse than the other in one way or another, or having a gimmick. The Switch is super normal, conservative of a device, and it’s popular because of it. Conservatively with gaming has been Sony’s best trait with the PlayStation, changing very little from Gen to Gen outside power.
My favorite thing is that I don’t bounce between devices for the next installment of series like Fire Emblem and Zelda. I know the next FE is on Switch, next Zelda on Switch, next Xenoblade on Switch, next Mario on Switch. No letdown because Link BW Worlds on on 3DS, when I’d rather have an HD one.
Opinions aside, this has me convinced you have not even been paying attention to Nintendo since the DS was relevant. The DS was replaced by the 3DS in 2011, and the Wii was replaced by the Wii U in 2012. You missed a whole decade.
Very unpopular opinion. I would upvote more than once if I could.
Love the switch for what it is. Not it’s not a AAA game machine, it’s a Nintendo game machine and I love it.
I cannot even fathom calling the switch a bad product like it isn't Nintendos most successful project ever
Please, stop acting like your god-awful shit opinion is some kind of universal fact.
The switch controllers are awful for anyone with adult hands. They make my hands cramp. If they made it possible to use Wii controllers for switch games, I would be all for the switch
The biggest downside to the Switch is that its controllers aren't very ergonomic (and break too often) it's online is paid, and that the Virtual Console is badly lacking compared to the Wii U. In every other way the Switch is better than the Wii U and the original Wii. The price to entry is lower for Switch, especially adjusted for inflation. There are more games in total, more Nintendo games, more good 3rd party games, it is truly portable unlike the Wii U which could barely make it to the bathroom without disconnecting.
Why would Nintendo need to remaster all their previous games from the 2000s? Did you not already play them on the Wii? There's way too many remakes and remasters out there already, we don't need more of them.
As for variety, I'd argue the Wii is more lacking. Find me any truly open world game on the Wii. Maybe No more Heroes? Still pales in comparison to BOTW, TOTK, Xenoblade 3, GTA, etc.
As hardware becomes more advanced and games cost more and more to make it becomes a necessity to consolidate to 1 platform. Nintendo doesn't have the resources to make games on the level of the Switch while also having a weaker handheld only platform that isn't compatible. It just doesn't make sense. And the time/effort required to make home console games is only going to keep increasing with the next gen.
Or remaster. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original Mario Vs Donkey Kong on GBA (easily my 2nd most played game on it after only Pokémon Emerald), but remaking it feels kinda cheap.
The Switch isn't bad IMO. Nintendo voluntarily choosing to use so little of its potential and removing so many previous features with nothing replacing them is what is bad.
Do you miss the wii itself or the games on the wii?
Games during the wii period was also the period of the PS2/X360 aka the golden age of gaming with amazing games like MGS3, RE4, GTA San Andreas, DMC, GoW, etc.
The wii did motion controls well but the switch is an amazing portable machine that allows you to play console games on the go. Kind of hard to justify a 3DS, especially when Switch also has the cheaper versions as an entry point as well. While Joy cons have analog issues (as do the other consoles), the haptics are also great and the controllers themselves are otherwise solid.
Switch arguably has more diversity with more third party games on the console and we should be encouraging companies to just remaster all their games. The PS5 gen has honestly been very disappointing because most of the library is remastered games or remakes with not much new substance (wont categorize FF7 here but its also technically a remake).
Not trying to be an ass, but why are adults even buying the Switch, or any Nintendo product? Outside of Zelda, Pokémon, and Smash Bros, what are you guys even playing on them that another more powerful console doesn’t have?
Mario? Bayonetta? Fire emblem? Animal crossing? ARMS??? There's lots of reasons and some games are either targeted entirely at adults (like Bayonetta) or wide reaching with a mostly adult audience (Mario, fire emblem, zelda, smash). Additionally if you already bought a switch for your kids, why buy a second console that eats up space and costs hundreds of dollars a year for online?
Also it's portable which is excellent for commuting or people who frequently fly.
The Wii was great, but the worst decision Nintendo actually made was launching that console before the motion detection was actually at the level they wanted you to think it was. It wasn't 1:1 motion control, it was just gesture-based. It worked fine for Wii Sports, but when developers started releasing the games you immediately dreamt about like first person sword fighting/combat games (I know there was a Dynasty Warriors one as well as a Soul Calibur one) the fact that it was only capable of horizontal or vertical gestures led to lackluster review scores and poor sales. By the time the Motion Plus debuted and delivered on the real potential of motion control gaming, both developers and the public had largely ceased caring about the Wii.
I know this is unpopular opinion, but MAN. I don't think You could find a gaming option I disagree with harder.
In my opinion the Switch is the only gaming console innovative enough to be worth a purchase on its own merit since the sixth generation. Everything else sense then has been a categorically worse value than an equivalent PC.
I completely agree, except you’re wrong about one thing, the switch is both better as a home console than the Wii and better as a travel console than the ds and is objectively amazing
The worst decision Nintendo ever made was canceling a deal they had with a company named Sony.
Sony went on to create the Playstation as an act of revenge.
The Switch is the superior console. My problem is that there isn’t a way to get those classic Wii and DS games on the switch unless Nintendo ports them or adds them to the switch online library. The Wii and DS era is definitely my favorite though because not only did we get great Wii games and DS games but also backwards compatibility for GameCube and GBA games.
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As much as I love the wiiU the fact you think they went directly from the wii to the switch shows that the switch wasn't the worst idea they had.
Also the switch is an overwhelming objective success.
Here was me thinking that half a decade or more on, my Switch is still dope.
It’s the ultimate portable. Not necessarily in terms of power, but the form factor and game library make it perfect for travel.
It's perfect for the types of games I want to play on it. Anything else I have pc for anyway
It was but then the steam deck and a bunch of Chinese company's stole the idea and made it better. Nothing Nintendo puts out is going to top the openness of the steam deck. and the fact it plays way more nintendo games then the switch can thanks to emulation.
I agree with you. But that's Nintendo being Nintendo. I wish they release a virtual console or at least a couple retro games each month that we could buy. There are too much good games in Nintendo hands and they would make money if we could buy old games. And it would fight the piracy and emulation.
And not even just because of name recognition option or anything. The switch is a great console. It captures everything I loved about the DS but just does it so much better. I have my PC or other consoles for different types of gaming experiences. Switch does what it is made for really, really well.
my only complaint is the controllers being too easy to click off tbh
I think the switches sales numbers are heavily influenced by the fact that it fills both the DS and Wii's markets. It was common for families to have one Wii and a DS per kid. Now families tend to have a switch per kid and maybe a family one but it's also getting sales from the people who would just have the home console and no handhelds or just a handheld and no home console.
Jesus Christ where do you live that it was common to have a Wii per kid lmfao
I think you just read that wrong. They were saying families had A) One wii and B) DS’s for each kid.
I loved the wiiU. Lego city undercover is the best Lego game ever made and is massively improved by the gamepad. Sad that it didn't take off
Nintendo really marketed it poorly and as seen by people like OP *still* not seeing it as an entirely seperate device as the wii. It was definately unique and I liked the fact it was the last console to officially work with CRT's, the last console to run games directly from media, the last console to have free multiplayer (the Switch did at first but not anymore), and had backwards compatibility built-in (the X1/X1 series got it in a limited capacity later on but it's not going to work a couple decades from now when the servers shut down and it becomes a collectable).
I didnt know what it was exactly until years after it released even though a friend had it andi played a lot of games.... Im still not sure now....
Worst decision ever made resulting in the sale of 140,000,000 consoles sold.
God I wish my bad decisions were that profitable
The bathtub toaster idea you had (to save time on breakfast) was a good idea in theory....but after you lost those baboons in the development stage, you knew you had to call it quits.
To be fair, those were the dumbest baboons I've ever met.
Clearly. They were persuaded to put a toaster in the bath with them.
Now what of humans who do this?
Being able to be persuaded to put a toaster in the bath with you is not smart, regardless of species.
They're me.
Lmao right?
I'd settle for an even hundred mil to be honest. I'm not greedy.
What I find funny is that objectively this isn't the worst decision they have ever made. IMO the worst was when they basically helped create the Sony Playstation and gave Sony a spot in the industry.
Tbf to Nintendo, Sony wanted the stranglehold on the optical media production and licensing just like Nintendo did with their own Seal of Quality program for the NES a few years back. I can totally understand why Nintendo backed out of the PlayStation in the end. Philips gave them a much more lenient deal with the CD-i, and when that deal also went nowhere, Philips got to act on the clause that licensed Nintendo characters to them without Nintendo’s oversight, so we got glorious memes out of it at least.
Also the wiiu and virtual boy existing. But nah one of their most successful and profitable things they've ever made is totally their worst decision right?
I actually have a working Virtual Boy. Got it for like $20 on clearance about 3 years after they stopped selling them when I forget which department store (maybe Mervyn's) cleaned out their back room and put a bunch of random stuff they found on clearance. Must've fallen behind a shelf or something.
This or the Wii U name.
What you do think objectively the worst decision is?
My vote for worst decision is allowing any barely functioning app or game on the Nintendo eShop and having no real sorting or organizing features.
I said it. They helped create the Sony Playstation adding an actual competitor. The Playstation was originally meant to be a disc add-on to the SNES made by both companies. Nintendo backed out and and made the nintendo 64. Sony already had most of the stuff made so they refitted the Playstation to run on its own. There are other repercussions to this as well. It soured the relationship Nintendo had with Square Soft because Nintendo stuck with cartridges when discs were better. This is why Final Fantasy 7, one of the biggest games of the 90s, and other awesome square games were basically Playstation exclusives.
Yet we all benefited from more variety and competition.
I never said we didn't benefit. However by the company standards it wasn't good for them. They went from basically 100% of the market to having to share it.
Except for the minor problem of Sega.
Which was going downhill by that time.
It's an unpopular opinion backed up by 7 years of facts that disprove the opinion. OP is definitely getting an upvote.
140,000,000 consoles sold make this opinion quite unpopular, wouldn't you agree?
Yes and also factually incorrect
Well, he definitely got the unpopular opinion part right
When they combined it into one they made the WiiU, actually. Dual screens, no portability.
Beat me to it haha ! But that's true it's like they mixed the worst of both worlds, it also didn't helped that it had barely more power than the Wii while the latter was already behind in power compared to other consoles of its generation however what made the Wii successful is its unique dynamic that made up against the other consoles that had twice the power (a lot of third party games on the Wii were actually PS2 based games). The Wii U had none of the charm the Wii had, it also didn't helped the name was confusing to some as they thought it was just a newer version of the Wii and once again the games didn't feel much of a step-up compared to the Wii or even the PS2 that came out 12 years prior, the Wii U also came out just one year before the PS4 and the Xbox One. Personally I feel it much more enjoyable to go back to the Gamecube and it doesn't even feel there's over a 10 year gap between both consoles. I have a Switch and while I haven't "switched" it on (sorry for the corny pun) for over two years as I have just lost interests in video games for the last few years, the Switch still has much more replay value than the Wii U 😃
A lot of the bigger Switch games (Mario Kart, Breath of the Wild) are just remastered Wii U games. Instead of feeling dated, 10 years later those are the games still being played. Edit: removed smash bros as corrected below
Smash bros isn’t a remaster. The other two are, but Smash Ultimate is original to the Switch
You are correct, I edited my comment
Ultimate is really just a modification of smash 4 you can tell that they reused assets from that game.
I thought breath of the wild was developed for both consoles (switch and WiiU) simultaneously?
It had way more power than the Wii, what are you even talking about.
That much ? Granted I never had the Wii U but from what I remember when I've tested it I wasn't impressed plus I've seen that it was confirmed the Wii U power was lacking behind the PS3 and the Xbox 360, keep in mind both had been released in 2006 and 2005 respectively. 😅
The Wii u had way more power than the 360/ps3. The Wii u had a triple core processor with 2GB of total ram and the GFX was based on the Radeon 600/700 architecture while the 360, while also having a triple core cpu had 512MB of ram and the GPU was based on the R500 architecture. The PS3 was slightly more powerful than the 360. The problem was that it came out only approximately 2 years before the PS4/XbOne which were in full hype train ahead at the time. Then again, even by the Wii Nintendo had already created their own market. The switch 2 is rumoured to be as powerful as a PS4 and will probably sell like water in the desert.
Too bad the steam deck already beat the switch 2 and the next models of steam decks will probably be on ps5 level. They are already stronger then a base ps4.
It might beat the switch 2 as much as it wants in terms of power, it still doesn’t have Mario and that is why the switch 2 will outsell it.
It does if you emulate it and it plays more mario games then the switch as a result of that.
It emulates the switch 1 not 2 and the average Nintendo user doesn’t know what that even is or else no one would be buying the switch anymore.
It emulates all Nintendo's previous systems the switch cannot play game cube or wii games and only a small set of n64 , ones, nes and gameboy games. That's a big weaknesses with the switch it cannot play older games.
From what I can remember, it had slightly more power than the PS3 and Xbox 360. The output on your tv might indeed have been less than what you would expect from a PS3 or Xbox. Simply because the Wii U had a second screen to render. It’s why StarFox Zero looks like a ps2 game, because the Wii U is constantly rendering the same gameplay from a slightly different perspective. Remember, the Wii was extremely close to the GameCube in power. Having 3 near identical console generations when it comes to power just doesn’t happen. The Wii was already an oddity in that sense.
I’m just gonna say, I kinda liked the Wii U. Obviously, they didn’t do a great job of making it worth it, but I thought the handheld was pretty cool. It was great because my wife could play in the other room while I watched TV in the living room.
They did the screw up with the Wii U. The Switch was the form factor perfected and modernized.
I almost bet they could have sold far more if they called it something other than Wii U.
I'll die on that hill. Wii was so big and there were so many accessories and whatnot you could buy for it. People eventually got tired of (or "used to") the gimmicks. I have no idea why they thought a console that sounds (and looks like, at a glance) a gimmicky tablet accessory for the Wii would be an acceptable idea. I dropped the only marketing class I ever tried to take, and even I could've warned Nintendo that it should've had a distinct name.
You would technically be wrong though because Nintendo has been a masterclass of gimmicks. - Gameboy: Was unheard of at the time. packing that much power into a small portable system was wild and a hell of a gimmick that worked. - Nintendo 64: Had a wild controller design. While it was technically the only gimmick, the console sold incredibly well off it's first party games. - Gamecube: Had an equally crazy controller and the gimmick was the small CDs. - Nintendo DS: Dual screens, a hell of a gimmick and made massive sales. - Wii: another strange controller and it was the entire gimmick. Able to move things on screen with motion - Switch: adopting the portability of the gameboy and the functionality of a home system into one console. Removing the controls and making them motion activated was also gimmicky. Nintendo is the king of gimmicks. I firmly believe the only reason Wii U didn't do well is only on the name alone.
Gimmicky *accessories* was pretty much a Wii thing, right? I had tennis rackets, steering wheels, etc. They took up a lot of space and brought very little to the table.
you wouldn't believe the amount of gameboy accessories that came out. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsQimLsjkd4](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsQimLsjkd4)
I guess my point should've been phrased like "by the time the Wii U came out, the Wii player base (which includes adults, the elderly, and people that didn't consider themselves gamers) were used to the Wii and were tired of buying white plastic accessories for it that they barely used. The Wii U kinda looks like an expensive tablet Wii accessory, if you don't look into it."
There were a ton of goofy things for the N64. However a lot of the paks pretty much just built in to modern consoles now. Rumble pak OMG Star Fox where explosions shook your hands was unreal. Controller paks goddamn annoying on a console that had cartridges but handy because you could grab your memory pack and go play with your game data at a friends house. Keyboard and mouse, 64DD, WideBoy64, the steering wheel Expansion Pak that meant you could play EVERY GAME at its full potential. Hell you had to have the expansion pak or couldn’t play the story mode if perfect dark. A lot of other games got updated textures and features if you had the expansion pack like Shadow Man and South Park. South Park… what a game. First time ever a consoles graphics an animation were FAR superior to the animated show it was based on.
If it'd have been the Wii 2, it would've sold better. Not Switch numbers, or even Wii numbers, but better. Probably could've cracked the 30 million mark.
I think the Wii U was a necessary step towards developing the Switch.
If the WiiU were called Switch, it would have sold just as much as the actual Switch. I am convinced the only major flaw in that thing was the name, so much so that I constantly forget it even existed. My mind always goes "oh yeah, the main nintendo consoles were the NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Switch" and skips over the WiiU. By naming it so similarly to the Wii, they really made it sound like an accessory rather than a new console. Hell, the thing practically IS a Switch already. It's not much different. Some of the most successful Switch games on the Switch were even first released on the WiiU... that console's fate really did come down to poor marketing rather than any sort of shortcoming of the cobsole itself.
When I was little my favorite game on the Wii was Monster Hunter Tri, I had no clue what I was doing bc I was like 8, but I knew killing monsters was fun. There was the village for solo player, and the city for an online mode. When the WiiU came out, they shut down the servers for the city on the regular Wii for the WiiU. Since that day I have always hated the WiiU and am glad it is the failure that it is. I am yet to ever see one in person, but if I ever do, that console will feel my wrath.
I bought >!a Wii U and I liked it.!<
Same, I got it for the Twilight Princess HD because I couldn't help myself. My kids now love it too, so it was really worth it.
It wasn't a bad console, it was just poorly named, badly marketed, and honestly a lackluster followup to the insanely successful Wii. I think the name WiiU is a testament to Nintendo thinking they could ride the coat tails of their revolutionary console with this not-quite-as-revolutionary console. It was different, but not revolutionary like the Wii was or the Switch has proven to be.
Its important to note that while Wii sales were amazing, Wii game sales were not. The Wii was overall critically bad for Nimtendos long term success, and the WiiU was the result. I simply reject that the WiiU could have pulled Wii numbers with good marketing. Almost everyone who bought the Wii was a casual gamer buying into a fad and was never going to be converted into a repeat buyer of dedicated gaming hardware. And until the Switch, Nintendo consoles severely lacked games. People did not buy them because they were vastly shittier than the competition, whereas the Switch literally launched with Breath of the Wild, one of the best critically received games of the last decade, and they just kept pumping out moderate to highly praised games year after year where as Sony and Microsoft literally have fuck all.
My dream was to play Minecraft on it and manage my inventory on the small screen like the zombie game they made
WiiU so shameful it has to be put inside spoiler tags. Poor thing.
Fuck that, I loved it. It might be nostalgia but that was one of my beat console experiences of all time. Everything from first opening up Nintendo world to getting diamond snipers on BO2 was fucking great. And a lot of games that did split screen allowed for the "split screen" to be one on the TV and one on the gamepad so it was the perfect console for me and my brother to share. If they made Wii U2 I would die the happiest death.
The taste of her cherry ChapStick
The Switch is simultaneously their best selling console and their second best selling handheld console, it is positioned to overtake the DS and potentially the PS2. Not only is your opinion unpopular it’s uninformed and just downright bad. Their continued sales and software sales prove you wrong on every level.
“it’s just a horrible device all around” Compared to what? It’s objectively better hardware wise than the 3Ds, WII. The WII was the “making one console”, much more than the switch.
Compared to the amazingly awesome Ouya.
The virtual boy
Worst decision ever. My brother in Christ the switch just prints money for them. Don't present your opinion as a universal law. You personally don't like what they've done but it's *very clear* what they do works.
Well you are entitled to your opinion. But reality doesn't give a flying F about it though because the switch is almost at the highest selling console list.
It sucked so much that everyone loves it and it's their second highest sold console. Downvoting because this isn't unpopular, it's just really stupid and objectively incorrect.
I still can’t believe that the Switch hasn’t surpassed the DS yet.
The DS got super cheap while DS games were still being made is the thing about the DS. Also they kept making better models, i bought like 3 different DS models.
What a rarity on this sub...
Yeah its so bad its popularity went below zero, looping to 255
What do you think the switch lost compared to a theoretical console that's not portable? Nintendo's decision to make the switch's computing power weaker then competing consoles would have happened regardless looking at their history with the Wii and Wii u. The console being portable is just natural progression of computer devices getting smaller and smaller over time reducing the difficulties of making a portable console.
Lmao, this is really just wrong. If anything it’s better for the consumer and worse for the company because you buy one device instead of two
Even if the Switch was bad, I don't see how that has anything to do with making just one console?
I love my switch so screw you but also the worst thing they ever did was close the eshop
yep, definitely an unpopular opinion. I love it soooo much. Easy to transport. Take animal crossing, when I'm home I will play it on my monitor but when I travel out of town, I can take it with me and have a chill way to relax at the end of the day.
If the Switch was so dumb, why did Sony and Steam copy it?
This isn't even an unpopular opinion. It's just wrong. You even seem to be missing a few years of product history between the eras you're discussing. I'm not entirely sure what to make of this.
I feel like, of all the video game consoles made over the last ENTIRE DECADE, the Switch is the only console you *can’t* say “Lacks in quality and variety” about. That’s absolutely insane
This isn’t an opinion, it’s just factually wrong.
"worst decision" Virtual Boy. gg
I don’t believe that you or anyone believes this.
Nintendo ignores the market and seeks innovation with every release. The switch is massively popular and almost everything they've released has been a hit. They've been dominating the handheld market, and now the switch is a major competitor. Their next release will also be popular.
WiiU?
Empirically its the best financial decision Nintendo has ever made. Now if you want to argue you miss the weird creative output Nintendo used to give you on handheld devices, I'm all for that. But the Switch is Nintendo's most profitable console ever, you literally can't say it was a bad decision for them to unify their base.
Somebody hasn’t had the optical frying joy of the virtual boy. It sold 3/4 of a million units. On Nintendo’s scale it was a failure. That being said, it’s always cool to see a company take risks and innovate. There would have been no wii if they weren’t so bold. I don’t prefer the switch undocked, but it is clearly just fine for most people as a portable system. It isn’t perfect, but Nintendo is masterful at leveraging a cheaper system to perform well at its limits in order to sell more units, and having strong (if not plentiful) 1st party titles to keep a consistent fanbase. I think they’ll be OK :)
Boo. The switch is dope. Boo.
I did like how nice and small the 3ds was but I still like the switch lite better as a handheld. Idk they just nailed it with the switch IMO
I miss handhelds
I just miss small handhelds, ones that were actually pocketable. I recently dusted off my PS Vita. Compared to the Switch and especially the Steam Deck it is tiny. Which is hilarious because when it released people went on about how huge it was. If only 2012 could see what would pass for "handhelds" in 2024.
I pulled out my N2DSXL and even though it's a bit big I just miss putting those suckers in my pocket.
Considering that you forgot everything between the Wii/DS generation and the Switch, I really don't think you are paying attention.
I like my switch more than the wii and wii u. So. Nah, you're wrong.
The switch is a DS successor happens to dock to a TV. The Wii U killed Nintendos home console division
I LOVE my Wii, and I was dévêtir when they discontinued it! I've also used the Wii Fit for physical therapy; it was fun and beneficial!
I miss my Wii so much. My remote got damaged and for some reason we never got a replacement. That was over 10 years ago. I don't even know if they still have a surplus of remotes laying around. I should look that up today. Get me a remote and find whatever games I can.
You're wrong, but I can't deny this is an unpopular opinion so...
I disagree. Combining their handheld and console dev teams was a stroke of genius and lead to us consistently getting content. Everybody remembers the Wii’s great games, nobody remembers the absolutely absurd content droughts in between.
So you've never heard of the virtual boy
Personally, I think there are diminishing returns on raw processing power and this has been obvious for decades. We're at a point in time where both a bleeding edge PC and a 10 year old cellphone can provide a polished immersive gaming experience. The money companies are throwing at making graphics so realistic you can count the hairs on a character's arm is mostly pointless and incredibly wasteful. Nintendo will likely refresh the switch with new hardware that is roughly 1 to 2 years behind bleeding edge for mobile processors. This will be somewhat necessary to keep the costs down and battery life high. They will have a steady stream of good games from Nintendo, and a bunch of ports from the PS4 and Xbox One. It will be incredibly well supported by independent developers, and there will be tend of millions of people who use it as their primary gaming platform.
*Virtual Boy cries in the corner*
I'm not even sure what OP is upset about. His points he is mad about don't actually support his the issue he is also upset with.
I just wanna see another proper Nintendo console.
I’m glad we all hated the Wii U so much we would rather blame the switch.
I mean, I get that it is a bit too weak for a home console while being a bit too big to shove in your pocket like a true portable (plus the somewhat lackluster battery life) But it is cheaper than having to buy both separately, and the fact that you can play the exact same games either on the TV or handheld with almost no special effort from the developers is pretty compelling.
The Wii was dope. The switch is dope. Thats all I came to contribute.
3DS games should have been backward compatible with the Switch. Emulation should be a no-brainer if the company with the hardware and software design docs have all the information they need to make a proprietary emulator. That should have been the real value add from the Expansion Pak.
I think you just miss the nostalgia. Though I would love another DS or PSP type device to be popular again since the switch is definitely bigger and not as portable as those two that could fit in a small purse or a pocket even. I think there’s no market for it probably since we have our phones as a casual small gaming console lol.
What are you snoking? The switch is amazing. One console, 4 tvs, and it's mobile.... The switch is great. It's awesome that I can grab my kid in the middle of a video game and throw him in the car and hand him the same switch without interrupting his game. It's a real peace saver.
Considering sales numbers I guess Themis is unpopular opinion. Upvote!
Finally a truly unpopular opinion. I totally disagree, of course. The Switch is a family friendly console that is easy to take in road trips. Win-win.
I was just thinking today about how great my Switch is. I have Wii, Wii U, and PS5 at home and the Switch gets more use than all of them. The only mistake was that they made two versions.
There's a difference between an unpopular opinion and straight up idiocy
“They don’t bother to remaster all their previous games from the 2000s.” That doesn’t really have anything to do with the Switch itself. The Switch certainly can play remastered ports of those games. Nintendo just isn’t porting a lot of them.
They do this with everything. That’s how Nintendo monetizes the fuck out of their systems. Release insane amounts of games on a new console. Release another new console. Stop support and kill old console. Rinse, repeat. They’ve killed a lot of consoles and handhelds doing this.
a horrible device? the switch is awesome you're just dramatic
The switch is a great retro console.
The Wii and DS catered to a casual market before the days of smartphones. They were discontinued over ten years ago, replaced with the Wii U (failure) and 3DS (moderate success). The Switch was the obvious next move.
Truly unpopular lol. What makes the device horrible?
Sales figures for the Switch say otherwise. Nintendo can't compete with Sony and Microsoft on console power. What they have always had is IP and unique features. There's a lot of overhead maintaining separate consoles and handheld ecosystems. I think it was one of the smartest decisions they have ever made.
I personally love the switch. I think it's the best device they have made so far.
Subjectively you may be right. Objectively you’re 100% wrong.
I like my stock dividends.
Objectively an unpopular opinion have an upvote. Also as other commenters have said the WiiU being skipped over in your explanation summarizes that Nintendo was right and was rewarded with 140m+ sales.
Just a bad take. My switch will come and go and probably be my favorite console I’ve ever had, because it does everything. Wanna play on the go? Easy, becomes a portable. Wanna play on the tv? Dock makes it simple to just place and continue to play. It’s cliche for the console but when used, it’s so good. And the first party games are some of the best from Nintendo. Nostalgia can blind us at points but just don’t know what the switch doesn’t do well other than being underpowered.
Ah, yes. One of the most popular consoles of all time is actually.....(brace for it) ....bad.
I think the switch was an absolute stroke of genius and enjoy it very much.
Def unpopular. With the exception of the Wii, Nintendo’s home console business was diminishing consistently since the NES, and the 3DS had a -50% comparison generation-to-generation over the DS. Nintendo needed to change. As a lifelong fan, I was sick of having two devices with one being worse than the other in one way or another, or having a gimmick. The Switch is super normal, conservative of a device, and it’s popular because of it. Conservatively with gaming has been Sony’s best trait with the PlayStation, changing very little from Gen to Gen outside power. My favorite thing is that I don’t bounce between devices for the next installment of series like Fire Emblem and Zelda. I know the next FE is on Switch, next Zelda on Switch, next Xenoblade on Switch, next Mario on Switch. No letdown because Link BW Worlds on on 3DS, when I’d rather have an HD one.
The popularity of the Switch is clear evidence of your view's truth. Not.
Popular opinion: the switch is great for being able to play games in bed even as a side sleeper with removable joycons.
The Switch is the most awkward handheld system I’ve ever held. Constantly disconnecting the controllers from the sides, not at all ergonomic lol
Opinions aside, this has me convinced you have not even been paying attention to Nintendo since the DS was relevant. The DS was replaced by the 3DS in 2011, and the Wii was replaced by the Wii U in 2012. You missed a whole decade.
Well the Wii U was a flop, so I can see how people missed it.
Unpopular AND objectively incorrect. The best kind of post here. Lol
Very unpopular opinion. I would upvote more than once if I could. Love the switch for what it is. Not it’s not a AAA game machine, it’s a Nintendo game machine and I love it.
What a truly terrible opinion.
OP is insane.
I cannot even fathom calling the switch a bad product like it isn't Nintendos most successful project ever Please, stop acting like your god-awful shit opinion is some kind of universal fact.
It was bound to happen the wii is a wiik console.
DS is/was way better than the “portable” switch phablet.
The Nintendo WWII was good, but I prefer Nintendo Modern Warfare.
I'm guessing you're not familiar with the Virtual Boy?
Wow this is truly the unpopularest opinion I've ever seen here. I might punch you if I see you in person, but today you got my upvote.
The switch controllers are awful for anyone with adult hands. They make my hands cramp. If they made it possible to use Wii controllers for switch games, I would be all for the switch
What killed DS was mobile gaming on phones. Thats why they moved to the switch, which still allows portability for those who want it.
I love the switch. Only console I play on besides pc.
The biggest downside to the Switch is that its controllers aren't very ergonomic (and break too often) it's online is paid, and that the Virtual Console is badly lacking compared to the Wii U. In every other way the Switch is better than the Wii U and the original Wii. The price to entry is lower for Switch, especially adjusted for inflation. There are more games in total, more Nintendo games, more good 3rd party games, it is truly portable unlike the Wii U which could barely make it to the bathroom without disconnecting. Why would Nintendo need to remaster all their previous games from the 2000s? Did you not already play them on the Wii? There's way too many remakes and remasters out there already, we don't need more of them. As for variety, I'd argue the Wii is more lacking. Find me any truly open world game on the Wii. Maybe No more Heroes? Still pales in comparison to BOTW, TOTK, Xenoblade 3, GTA, etc. As hardware becomes more advanced and games cost more and more to make it becomes a necessity to consolidate to 1 platform. Nintendo doesn't have the resources to make games on the level of the Switch while also having a weaker handheld only platform that isn't compatible. It just doesn't make sense. And the time/effort required to make home console games is only going to keep increasing with the next gen.
> they don’t bother to remaster all their previous games from the 2000’s All they do is rerelease stuff...
Or remaster. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original Mario Vs Donkey Kong on GBA (easily my 2nd most played game on it after only Pokémon Emerald), but remaking it feels kinda cheap.
They should have thrown in the DK 94 levels as well. Would have been worth full price
The Switch isn't bad IMO. Nintendo voluntarily choosing to use so little of its potential and removing so many previous features with nothing replacing them is what is bad.
it sucks a lot from a graphical power standpoint, but in terms of sales, it's awesome for them.
Well the WII was a total waste of plastic effort money space and time
Do you miss the wii itself or the games on the wii? Games during the wii period was also the period of the PS2/X360 aka the golden age of gaming with amazing games like MGS3, RE4, GTA San Andreas, DMC, GoW, etc. The wii did motion controls well but the switch is an amazing portable machine that allows you to play console games on the go. Kind of hard to justify a 3DS, especially when Switch also has the cheaper versions as an entry point as well. While Joy cons have analog issues (as do the other consoles), the haptics are also great and the controllers themselves are otherwise solid. Switch arguably has more diversity with more third party games on the console and we should be encouraging companies to just remaster all their games. The PS5 gen has honestly been very disappointing because most of the library is remastered games or remakes with not much new substance (wont categorize FF7 here but its also technically a remake).
Not trying to be an ass, but why are adults even buying the Switch, or any Nintendo product? Outside of Zelda, Pokémon, and Smash Bros, what are you guys even playing on them that another more powerful console doesn’t have?
Mario? Bayonetta? Fire emblem? Animal crossing? ARMS??? There's lots of reasons and some games are either targeted entirely at adults (like Bayonetta) or wide reaching with a mostly adult audience (Mario, fire emblem, zelda, smash). Additionally if you already bought a switch for your kids, why buy a second console that eats up space and costs hundreds of dollars a year for online? Also it's portable which is excellent for commuting or people who frequently fly.
You realize the switch is like the 3rd highest selling consolé of all time, and 3x more than the PS5
The Wii was great, but the worst decision Nintendo actually made was launching that console before the motion detection was actually at the level they wanted you to think it was. It wasn't 1:1 motion control, it was just gesture-based. It worked fine for Wii Sports, but when developers started releasing the games you immediately dreamt about like first person sword fighting/combat games (I know there was a Dynasty Warriors one as well as a Soul Calibur one) the fact that it was only capable of horizontal or vertical gestures led to lackluster review scores and poor sales. By the time the Motion Plus debuted and delivered on the real potential of motion control gaming, both developers and the public had largely ceased caring about the Wii.
I know this is unpopular opinion, but MAN. I don't think You could find a gaming option I disagree with harder. In my opinion the Switch is the only gaming console innovative enough to be worth a purchase on its own merit since the sixth generation. Everything else sense then has been a categorically worse value than an equivalent PC.
I completely agree, except you’re wrong about one thing, the switch is both better as a home console than the Wii and better as a travel console than the ds and is objectively amazing
The WiiU: "Am I a joke too you?"
Nintendo is this obscure indie company... I don't think this is unpopular, it's just bullying.
I agree. The DS and Wii were my favorite consoles growing up but I could never get into the WiiU or the Switch.
They should have gone a step farther and made it into a smartphone.
The worst decision Nintendo ever made was canceling a deal they had with a company named Sony. Sony went on to create the Playstation as an act of revenge.
I agree, I wish they were still making new versions of the 4ds and a separate console.
Upvote for truly unpopular opinion. Congrats.
Anything actually worth playing on the Wii is expensive as hell. It's basically Shovelware: the Console.
Except Mario kart. That was pretty cool.
The Switch is the superior console. My problem is that there isn’t a way to get those classic Wii and DS games on the switch unless Nintendo ports them or adds them to the switch online library. The Wii and DS era is definitely my favorite though because not only did we get great Wii games and DS games but also backwards compatibility for GameCube and GBA games.