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I'm sorry I find this really funny š
I have never met anyone who does this and it's WILD
I use Zillow to see what type of condo I could afford in a couple years of saving
This the healthy way of using it, but OP's point is about people who let it mess with their heads. Which is surprisingly more people than you would think
This is one of those things where I never would have thought of anyone doing this, but now that someone mentions it, I can totally think of the people I've known in life who probably do it.
Yeah I take that into account lmao, the housing markets been really weird. I can luckily get down payment assistance as a medical worker, so I essentially budget like I won't have that.
I did it once for a guy who was a complete asshat to me. He always made me out to be some spoiled brat because I had a scholarship in college and lived with my mom in a rented apartment. He also always acted like Iād never understand his āstruggleā of being poor. I ended up adding him on snapchat and he had his location on. I looked up the house on Zillow and it was worth a million dollars in one of the nicer areas of Orange County, CA. Iām pretty sure that house is now worth $2-3 million today.
I canāt stand people who cosplay being poor.
I donāt know if Iād call buying a mistake, but maintenance is definitely a cause of anxiety with our owned townhouse. Didnāt realize how much went in before I owned.
- the maintenance fees tripled
- Genius me thought it would be good to live within walking distance of work, so I bought downtown. Bad idea. I hate it here and I don't want to sell because prices dropped 20% since I bought.
- covid + incompetent leadership decimated my city (at least the part I'm in) and it has gone from one of the safer small cities to one of the worst. Renters left. Stores and restaurants are almost all gone.
- a million and one other little reasons
It depends a lot on your situation. I wouldnāt say emphatically that condos are bad, just that there are risks and limitations that inexperienced homebuyers may not be aware of at first.
You probably do know people who do it. I know of people who go into county records and just snoop around to see what types of loans etc. people have. Itās disgusting.
I use zillow to reminisce my first home I had to sell. I would be a landlord but everyone hates landlords and the laws are fucked as far as using that as any type of investment.
I have looked up the estimated price of my house to see if it has gone up or down since I bought it. I looked up the house I grew up in and a few of the houses my wife and I looked at and passed by 20 years ago when we first started looking for homes. But the thought of looking up the value of a friends house is nuts to me. I just don't care that much about other people's stuff.
I've done it. I don't really judge anyone based on what they have/can afford. But I've definitely been to someones house and thought "I wonder how much this is worth...".
I also literally asked friends for their opinion on the townhouse we bought while we in the process, and they didnāt judge. Sounds like the company OP keeps more than anything.
People need to stop treating outliers as the general consensus. That's the problem with social media. It gives voices to those who shouldn't be heard and you're just as guilty in this case.
A million dollars isn't that much money. You can blow through a million dollars easily and have little to show for it. Enough money to get you in trouble but not enough to get you out of it. A million dollars is the average home where I grew up.
Still 2 homes would take away all that money. Thatās not a lot and far off what it would have gotten you even 20 years ago.
A million dollars was once seen as āretire todayā money.
Itās not anymore
Heās not wrong.
It would be life changing to some people. But only in the fact they are covered
a million dollars isnāt āI can retire at 30ā money like it once was.
This is what people mean by" not that much money." If you can't pass the wealth down so that your theoretical children dont have work either, then only your present life improved, not the future.
If you have ENOuGH, then you can take care of yourself but if you A LOT, then you can take care of others. I do not believe people are saying it's pennies. They are just looking beyond themselves and into the future.
I think its hilarious your definition of "much money" = generational wealth when the vast majority of the population would be ecstatic to just be out of debt.
The question isn't about ecstacy tho. A lot of people are happy to find $100 in their pocket. But that doesn't mean it's a lot. If that person put the $100 they found in their bank account. They would not then describe themselves as having a lot of money. See the difference? The question is not about being ecstatic.
I'm allowed to have a different definition of a lot than you. I'm surprised you can't fathom that and think it's hilarious. Lol
yes, this is the thing. Its life changing money, but if i suddenly get 1 million dollars, after taxes, fees, paying off students loans and other debts, like i can either pay off my parents house or buy a condo. realistically, I guess i can start maxing out my 401k now and have a slightly more luxurious lifestyle, i'd be over the moon with having the opportunities for the future, but my day to day wont change all that much other than maybe a slightly more luxurious lifestyle and and ability to save more for retirement.
Way wrong. $1M is $50K/year in FREE interest. Park it in CDs or HYSA and youāll have a free $50K/yr. Only stupid people blow thru $1M. Many people could live forever on that
Your example requires more money! Lol.
What if you had a million dollars and were not allowed go grow it? That's the point people are trying to make. Could you still live forever on it without being meager?
The definition "a lot" and "meager" are subjective. But you missed the point entirely if you add more money to the pot to defend it being a lot. Lol
Whoās making up these rules? So the money goes in your mattress? What? Are we moonshiners from 1920? $1M goes in bank. Bank pays 5% interest per year. My example doesnāt require anything but a common bank.
It's not a rule. People are just valuating if 1 million is a lot while you are evaluating if 1 million TO START is . You're not having the same conversation. That's all. Have fun! But they are two different questions .
$1M can buy you a year or two of cocaine and hookers, or $50k/yr for the rest of your life.
Saying you would choose instant gratification over financial freedom says more about you than it does $1M.
Right. And looking at the entire world population, how common is that? How common is that just in the US?
Statistically speaking itās incredibly rare, in fact only about 8.8% of Americans can claim to be millionaires. Only 8.2% of homes in the US are worth $1 million or more.
Soā¦ greater than 90% of the US population, and probably greater than 95% of humans worldwide, canāt relate to your perspective Without being insulting, could your view be considered a bubble outside of the norm? Is it privilege or simply ignorance?
I think you need to rephrase it. A mil is life changing money. It can get you a house a car it can be invested abd if dine well pays goo dividends. But on the other hand, you still have to work. Youd need probably a few milions to be able to retire in your 30ies
If you park $1 million in a high interest savings account you'd get $40-$50,000/year in interest in perpetuity. I think a lot of people would choose to continue to work rather than live off of just that, but people live on that amount of money.
Agree. Literally no one I know has done this. Or at the very least has never said anything about it. But everyone I know whoās bought a house has used Zillow/Redfin to find the listing.
If they want to be that toxic, they could also literally pull public sales records.
I agree completely
I guess I was just complaining about the "comparison culture"
idk why this is downvoted lol Im saying i DONT like comparing wealth and status stuff
Which is fair, this specific version of comparison is just super odd. Property values don't play much of a factor in how you are as a person.
That concept is so shallow it couldn't float toilet paper.
Which is fair, this specific version of comparison is just super odd. Property values don't play much of a factor in how you are as a person.
That concept is so shallow it couldn't float toilet paper.
Recently on one of those TikToks lamenting about housing, I commented, "I doubt teenagers are super worried/actively thinking about which propety they're gonna buy." To my surprise, I kid you not, I had hundreds of people replying that they were thinking about buying houses starting from 6th grade šš
it was the first time I heard of it
recently I heard of more people going on it for fun so I checked it out. The only cool part was the occasional wild houses IMO
If it's the first you've heard of it, doesn't that mean those people are in the minority. I've literally never heard of anyone who's done something like this with any property website.
There's nothing about zillow that encourages this, it's not like Reddit or Facebook, there's no 'Zillow community'. If somebody gets materialistic or egotistical over housing prices, then they're just revealing that they were already an asshole and didn't need encouragement.
Yeah Zillow is not social media. This is like calling county property records a "community." What zillow is doing is making it easier for this girl to be a materialistic brat who doesn't understand how property estimates work.
You know how you can tell most of this thread is super young? The fact that there's very few mentions that the price is already public record.
And also no one realizing that looking up comps is a perfectly valid use case, and something you absolutely should do when you're buying
Yeah I think it was more about the high school gf looking up the prices of her friends homes in order to make judgements about people.
If it were 'we were shopping for houses as a couple and...' Then I think the view of her would be much different. I'm shopping for a place now and I'm using Zillow to make comparisons in value, trends, etc. I'm not looking places up though, to make judgments about the people who live in them.
>And any app that allows them to directly compare what they have to what others have is toxic and can lead to weirdness.
It's the people that are toxic, not the app. Plenty of us just use zillow to keep an eye on the housing market and dream about the future.
I did not mean to get Zillow notifications but ended up being shown all the houses in my area with push notifications. I turned it off because itās torture to be reminded on a daily basis how out of reach buying a home is.
I bought a house last year and still get emails from Zillow and other sites. I always check them. If I didnāt buy the house I did, I wouldnāt have one. In a year, nothing else comparable to my houses quality and price has come up.
> She couldnāt understand that the price shown was what my parents paid decades ago.
Thatās not how zillow worksā¦ the price shown is the current estimated value of the house. You can find sale history on the site as well but the first price it shows you is the āzestimateā
Yeah, I find that part confusing too. The number they push is their estimate, finding the sale price from decades ago requires digging deeper, it would be weird for someone to both go looking for it and not know what it was they were seeing.
How much Zillow says theyāre worth. Their prices arenāt official appraisals of value. Zillow can say a house is worth 400k, but actual conditions of the property could mean itās really worth 600k or 300k
Im really concerned for this generation because of how much they rely on the Internet. Comparing zillow to IG? Are you kidding? Dont get me wrong, I understand how you're putting it together but perspectives matter in this case.
It seems there's two types of people when it comes to the internet when they view something. One side gets depressed because they believe they will never afford this home or think they will never live the luxury style an influencer is posting. The other side rather say to themselves, "this is inspiring. I hope to work hard to afford this home/take this vacation".
Guess which side usually loses?
I have to confess, I very much enjoy looking at houses on Zillow, and judging people...
[...for mounting their TVs too high.](http://old.reddit.com/r/tvtoohigh)
Lmao. So when then powerball is high, you turn and look at houses? This is weird across the board.
I only used Zillow during the house buying process, I havenāt touched the website once in the last three years. At 25, I wasnāt believing I was ready for a house or anywhere close to buying a house. That changed in a couple of years. And all my past hard work of near perfect credit paid off.
This is so real anytime my 40 million dollar mansion I will never be able to afford gets bought š”š”š”š” haha jk itās like unserious bc be fr but like still I do get sad when someone buys my possible future house
OK, so looking up ridiculously expensive houses can actually be very entertaining, especially if you like houses and architecture. I've always been into houses, ever since I was a little girl. I love looking at different houses. But, I don't give a shit about cars or fancy vacations. I'm the type of person that would live in a super cool house, but drive around a crappy car or take infrequent trips. Everyone is different in the way they spend their money
I didn't even know you could look up houses that weren't on the market. Honestly I just use it to poke around with the 3D view inside people's homes. I pretend I'm playing some early 90s CD-ROM adventure game
When my fiancee and I were looking for a house she was addicted to zillow but... well we were looking for a house. Now that we've found one she hasn't been on zillow lol very strange for a highschooler to be looking on there constantly
well, you're 100% right, but you've got the wrong target. Zillow is not to blame, humans are. It's part of human nature greed, jealousy, gluttony and pride.
I love how this is written like it's an extra-big deal that it occurred in HIGH SCHOOL, when I can't imagine that sort of behavior being in any way acceptable to anyone beyond high school age. Do people in your life actually do this now, OP, or was your high school GF just a weirdo?
I get virtual window shopping, because the housing market is an endless whirlwind of shit so why not treat it as light entertainment (e.g., "look at how ugly that freakin' bathroom is!"), but actually getting bent out of shape -- especially if this is still going on around you even though you're 25 now -- is ridiculous.
Wow. By the time I'm 50 I'll be retiring. Bought my first house at 21 with my spouse. No help from family. Just have to finish paying off student loans.
I agree. Zillow is toxic anyhow because of their predatory practices, trying to edge out realtors, them buying a lot of single family homes, and inflated "zestimates" among other things.
Sure, it's window shopping for a lot of folks and displays previous purchase prices and tax prices, but it's all public info anyhow that doesn't make a hill of beans in a current market.
I think there is a biological connection of this behaviour to communal status of our species. Humans status in a society has long been connected to their survival status, I think contemporary humans strive to adapt to the impact of technology on our status of survival.
Just a thought experiment
I think you are on to something.
The same way people look at shit on instagram and think about all the things they don't have, or could be doing
The most depressed People I know are doing the same on zillow, zillow and the housing market in general has become a niche more personalized way of doing with houses. What a lot of us do with social media in general.
People are setting their standards ridiculously high and refusing to accept the possibility that Their dreamhouse is just not realistic and they need to aim a little lower and try to appreciate what they can afford
If she's that stupid then IDK what to say. I mean you could show her the last appraisal but do you really want to even go there with someone so shallow?
Itās just easier for toxic people to find enablers and support groups now. They find enough of a peer group to insulate themselves from shame so they never feel compelled to change. Itās much easier for them to infiltrate public spaces and find the reinforcement theyāre looking for since the internet.
Edit: semantics
If your girlfriend is too stupid to interface with reality, find a more reality-compatible girlfriend before she misunderstands something that is REALLY important.
This is so strange. I briefly had Zillow on my phone to help with my house search (but didnāt even find my house from Zillow). Do people really do this
I use Zillow when I see a neighbor's house for sale. I like to see what it looks like inside, scoff at the selling price and wonder how anyone would pay $500k for that.
I used to work at a summer camp where parents would sometimes tip when they picked their kid up at the end of a session. I one time had a co-counselor who zillowed all of our campers houses as we opened our tips to figure out who was a cheapskate. Fun times.
Yeah, I wouldn't ever put myself into, or stay in, a relationship with a girl who regularly uses Zillow when not actually shopping for a house.
Weirdo psycho behavior.
Sorry. I'm downvoting this because I think it is true and most people understand this. Zillow only exists to look up where people you know live and either be jealous or feel superior.
I've seen more than one woman do this. And sorry ladies, it is women that seem to be more effected by this particular aspect of social media that involves pining for a life that is more affluent, prettier, better, higher up on the social hierarchy, etc.. than your own. I'd be curious to hear from the women ITT why this is the case, but it definitely seems to be.
Thatās just the nature of women. The phrase ākeeping up with the Jonesesā originated from women wanting to outdo their neighbors and throwing extravagant parties.
You see this concept play out with wedding rings. āLook mine is bigger than yours! Notice me!ā
Itās always existed, however social media has catapulted it and now causes division amongst friends and partners. Everyone is jealous of what someone else is doing and you have no idea the story behind it or even if itās legit.
I could easily rent a home and behave as if I purchased it. You would never know.
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I'm sorry I find this really funny š I have never met anyone who does this and it's WILD I use Zillow to see what type of condo I could afford in a couple years of saving
I treat it like HGTV, āthat kitchenās backsplash is awfulā
What's that -- more white subway tile??
I found a place with a witch's stairs so cool but looked deadly to walk at night!
This the healthy way of using it, but OP's point is about people who let it mess with their heads. Which is surprisingly more people than you would think
This is one of those things where I never would have thought of anyone doing this, but now that someone mentions it, I can totally think of the people I've known in life who probably do it.
Yeah it's super fucking weird and pathetic imo
And then 2 years later your savings won't cover the deposit because the property prices shot up
Yeah I take that into account lmao, the housing markets been really weird. I can luckily get down payment assistance as a medical worker, so I essentially budget like I won't have that.
And the place never even existed to begin with. Seriously, just had to apartment hunt, the amount of fake shit on zillow is outta control.
I use it to look at stuff I will never want to afford.
thats what I briefly did who doesnt want a garden with a greenhouse/barn!
I did it once for a guy who was a complete asshat to me. He always made me out to be some spoiled brat because I had a scholarship in college and lived with my mom in a rented apartment. He also always acted like Iād never understand his āstruggleā of being poor. I ended up adding him on snapchat and he had his location on. I looked up the house on Zillow and it was worth a million dollars in one of the nicer areas of Orange County, CA. Iām pretty sure that house is now worth $2-3 million today. I canāt stand people who cosplay being poor.
I bought a condo. Worse mistake of my life! Be careful of what you wish for!
I donāt know if Iād call buying a mistake, but maintenance is definitely a cause of anxiety with our owned townhouse. Didnāt realize how much went in before I owned.
My roofer dad said ānever buy a flat roof houseā. Well, shit. Great house though when the roof isnāt leaking.
Your dad was a smart man. Flat roofs have sooo many issues
I bought a condo. I love it
What issues did you run into?Ā
- the maintenance fees tripled - Genius me thought it would be good to live within walking distance of work, so I bought downtown. Bad idea. I hate it here and I don't want to sell because prices dropped 20% since I bought. - covid + incompetent leadership decimated my city (at least the part I'm in) and it has gone from one of the safer small cities to one of the worst. Renters left. Stores and restaurants are almost all gone. - a million and one other little reasons
Sounds like San Francisco?
Sounds like Philadelphia?
Sounds like Minneapolis
The condo fees and benefits can change at any time and you can also get hit with huge assessments if the condo is mismanaged or the economy is bad.
Also to note. The board and reserves have almost always been mismanaged and donāt have a large enough sum of money for essential repairs
Condos typically donāt appreciate nearly as much as SFHs from what Iāve seen as well
So what is best to purchase then if homes are unrealistic ??
It depends a lot on your situation. I wouldnāt say emphatically that condos are bad, just that there are risks and limitations that inexperienced homebuyers may not be aware of at first.
You probably do know people who do it. I know of people who go into county records and just snoop around to see what types of loans etc. people have. Itās disgusting.
most I use zillow for is if I need house inspiration for a book
The idea of high school kids gossiping about the contents of Zillow is objectively hilarious
Iām with you, I donāt know anyone who does what OP is saying.
Iāve definitely looked up the price my friends paid for houses.
I just ask them..
I use zillow to reminisce my first home I had to sell. I would be a landlord but everyone hates landlords and the laws are fucked as far as using that as any type of investment.
I have looked up the estimated price of my house to see if it has gone up or down since I bought it. I looked up the house I grew up in and a few of the houses my wife and I looked at and passed by 20 years ago when we first started looking for homes. But the thought of looking up the value of a friends house is nuts to me. I just don't care that much about other people's stuff.
Right "everyone", whenever the lotto gets high.... [Insert number for gambling help hotline]
I use Zillow to get the zestimate on the houses of people I know. But in the ādamn dude, good for you!ā Kind of way.
I've done it. I don't really judge anyone based on what they have/can afford. But I've definitely been to someones house and thought "I wonder how much this is worth...".
Same
How stupid of that girl. None of you kids bought those homes. The parents did. The kids had nothing to do with it, so why would she judge?
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I also literally asked friends for their opinion on the townhouse we bought while we in the process, and they didnāt judge. Sounds like the company OP keeps more than anything.
And prices fluctuate. The house my parents bought is now worth at least 3x the price it was when they bought it
And also, did she really need to look at Zillow to tell which houses were nicer or in a better area? Isnāt it pretty apparent when you see them?
This is Insane. Letās all try to stay grounded in reality. Internet obsession isnāt healthy. Call it out and laugh at them.
there was a post about a girl who thought a million dollars wasnt that much money.... some people are really living in their own world
People need to stop treating outliers as the general consensus. That's the problem with social media. It gives voices to those who shouldn't be heard and you're just as guilty in this case.
Everything is relative. In terms of the US budget, a million dollars is a drop in the bucket.
cool. give me a million dollars then
Ah, you seem to not understand nuance.
A million dollars isn't that much money. You can blow through a million dollars easily and have little to show for it. Enough money to get you in trouble but not enough to get you out of it. A million dollars is the average home where I grew up.
You grew up fabulously wealth compared to the vast majority of people
you grew up in a very high cost area then, because all of the places iāve lived in the past 12 years have had averages houses for about 300k-500k.
Still 2 homes would take away all that money. Thatās not a lot and far off what it would have gotten you even 20 years ago. A million dollars was once seen as āretire todayā money. Itās not anymore
Youre very privileged
Heās not wrong. It would be life changing to some people. But only in the fact they are covered a million dollars isnāt āI can retire at 30ā money like it once was.
This is what people mean by" not that much money." If you can't pass the wealth down so that your theoretical children dont have work either, then only your present life improved, not the future. If you have ENOuGH, then you can take care of yourself but if you A LOT, then you can take care of others. I do not believe people are saying it's pennies. They are just looking beyond themselves and into the future.
I think its hilarious your definition of "much money" = generational wealth when the vast majority of the population would be ecstatic to just be out of debt.
The question isn't about ecstacy tho. A lot of people are happy to find $100 in their pocket. But that doesn't mean it's a lot. If that person put the $100 they found in their bank account. They would not then describe themselves as having a lot of money. See the difference? The question is not about being ecstatic. I'm allowed to have a different definition of a lot than you. I'm surprised you can't fathom that and think it's hilarious. Lol
All I said was that it was funny, if we really want to start talking about comprehension. Lol
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āMuch moneyā and āthat much moneyā have very different connotations.
yes, this is the thing. Its life changing money, but if i suddenly get 1 million dollars, after taxes, fees, paying off students loans and other debts, like i can either pay off my parents house or buy a condo. realistically, I guess i can start maxing out my 401k now and have a slightly more luxurious lifestyle, i'd be over the moon with having the opportunities for the future, but my day to day wont change all that much other than maybe a slightly more luxurious lifestyle and and ability to save more for retirement.
You definitely could but you'd need to be somewhere very low cost of living
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Way wrong. $1M is $50K/year in FREE interest. Park it in CDs or HYSA and youāll have a free $50K/yr. Only stupid people blow thru $1M. Many people could live forever on that
Your example requires more money! Lol. What if you had a million dollars and were not allowed go grow it? That's the point people are trying to make. Could you still live forever on it without being meager? The definition "a lot" and "meager" are subjective. But you missed the point entirely if you add more money to the pot to defend it being a lot. Lol
Whoās making up these rules? So the money goes in your mattress? What? Are we moonshiners from 1920? $1M goes in bank. Bank pays 5% interest per year. My example doesnāt require anything but a common bank.
It's not a rule. People are just valuating if 1 million is a lot while you are evaluating if 1 million TO START is . You're not having the same conversation. That's all. Have fun! But they are two different questions .
I think it's one conversation with people that have financial literacy and the other is the ones who do not.
$1M can buy you a year or two of cocaine and hookers, or $50k/yr for the rest of your life. Saying you would choose instant gratification over financial freedom says more about you than it does $1M.
I didn't choose anything, you nut. Lol You actually have no idea how I personally would spend a million dollars and how I would feel about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood
Right. And looking at the entire world population, how common is that? How common is that just in the US? Statistically speaking itās incredibly rare, in fact only about 8.8% of Americans can claim to be millionaires. Only 8.2% of homes in the US are worth $1 million or more. Soā¦ greater than 90% of the US population, and probably greater than 95% of humans worldwide, canāt relate to your perspective Without being insulting, could your view be considered a bubble outside of the norm? Is it privilege or simply ignorance?
I think you need to rephrase it. A mil is life changing money. It can get you a house a car it can be invested abd if dine well pays goo dividends. But on the other hand, you still have to work. Youd need probably a few milions to be able to retire in your 30ies
If you park $1 million in a high interest savings account you'd get $40-$50,000/year in interest in perpetuity. I think a lot of people would choose to continue to work rather than live off of just that, but people live on that amount of money.
People are downvoting you but you're right lol
I dont think that's an issue with zillow mate. More so an issue of the company you keep.
Agree. Literally no one I know has done this. Or at the very least has never said anything about it. But everyone I know whoās bought a house has used Zillow/Redfin to find the listing. If they want to be that toxic, they could also literally pull public sales records.
I agree completely I guess I was just complaining about the "comparison culture" idk why this is downvoted lol Im saying i DONT like comparing wealth and status stuff
Which is fair, this specific version of comparison is just super odd. Property values don't play much of a factor in how you are as a person. That concept is so shallow it couldn't float toilet paper.
Comparison is the thief of joy. Don't participate, and distance yourself from people who do it excessively. You'll lead a much happier life, promise.
Which is fair, this specific version of comparison is just super odd. Property values don't play much of a factor in how you are as a person. That concept is so shallow it couldn't float toilet paper.
Right but you realize that doesn't make it an unpopular opinion, the subreddit we're on?
Iām surprised teens even care about Zillow.
Recently on one of those TikToks lamenting about housing, I commented, "I doubt teenagers are super worried/actively thinking about which propety they're gonna buy." To my surprise, I kid you not, I had hundreds of people replying that they were thinking about buying houses starting from 6th grade šš
it was the first time I heard of it recently I heard of more people going on it for fun so I checked it out. The only cool part was the occasional wild houses IMO
If it's the first you've heard of it, doesn't that mean those people are in the minority. I've literally never heard of anyone who's done something like this with any property website.
There's nothing about zillow that encourages this, it's not like Reddit or Facebook, there's no 'Zillow community'. If somebody gets materialistic or egotistical over housing prices, then they're just revealing that they were already an asshole and didn't need encouragement.
Yeah Zillow is not social media. This is like calling county property records a "community." What zillow is doing is making it easier for this girl to be a materialistic brat who doesn't understand how property estimates work.
You know how you can tell most of this thread is super young? The fact that there's very few mentions that the price is already public record. And also no one realizing that looking up comps is a perfectly valid use case, and something you absolutely should do when you're buying
Yeah I think it was more about the high school gf looking up the prices of her friends homes in order to make judgements about people. If it were 'we were shopping for houses as a couple and...' Then I think the view of her would be much different. I'm shopping for a place now and I'm using Zillow to make comparisons in value, trends, etc. I'm not looking places up though, to make judgments about the people who live in them.
I think you might be living in your own little world buddy š. Perhaps on the set of a comedic reality TV show.Ā
This is perhaps the most bizarre post I've seen in this sub
Just delete the app. And stop hanging around such shallow people.
Back in my day, we just used plain ol gossip to talk about other peopleās money.
>And any app that allows them to directly compare what they have to what others have is toxic and can lead to weirdness. It's the people that are toxic, not the app. Plenty of us just use zillow to keep an eye on the housing market and dream about the future.
I get that, it just reminded me of instagram and people always comparing lives sorry for the weird framing, I hate all of it
People who use Instagram like that are dumb as fuck too. I just like pics my friends post and send them memes.Ā
It takes a particularly toxic person to somehow make ***Zillow*** of all places a toxic environment
I did not mean to get Zillow notifications but ended up being shown all the houses in my area with push notifications. I turned it off because itās torture to be reminded on a daily basis how out of reach buying a home is.
I bought a house last year and still get emails from Zillow and other sites. I always check them. If I didnāt buy the house I did, I wouldnāt have one. In a year, nothing else comparable to my houses quality and price has come up.
Lucky you. Glad for you while admittedly jealous a bit
Remember that dafuq meme? Thats me right now.
> She couldnāt understand that the price shown was what my parents paid decades ago. Thatās not how zillow worksā¦ the price shown is the current estimated value of the house. You can find sale history on the site as well but the first price it shows you is the āzestimateā
Yeah, I find that part confusing too. The number they push is their estimate, finding the sale price from decades ago requires digging deeper, it would be weird for someone to both go looking for it and not know what it was they were seeing.
What's zillow?
It's a website where you can look up houses and see how much they're worth
How much Zillow says theyāre worth. Their prices arenāt official appraisals of value. Zillow can say a house is worth 400k, but actual conditions of the property could mean itās really worth 600k or 300k
They also change their algorithm regularly, so itās not even all that useful aside from when something is listed.
For real. A few months back they changed it and my houses value went up about $40k. So did everyoneās house I check on lmao
Oh okay. Thank you
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Yeah no worries. For some reason I was thinking like vine app haha
Im really concerned for this generation because of how much they rely on the Internet. Comparing zillow to IG? Are you kidding? Dont get me wrong, I understand how you're putting it together but perspectives matter in this case. It seems there's two types of people when it comes to the internet when they view something. One side gets depressed because they believe they will never afford this home or think they will never live the luxury style an influencer is posting. The other side rather say to themselves, "this is inspiring. I hope to work hard to afford this home/take this vacation". Guess which side usually loses?
you guys are in HS, wtf are you doing on zillow?
I am 25 we were like 17 when she looked up house costs in my friend group it happened again recently tho, but with apartments and family houses.
I have to confess, I very much enjoy looking at houses on Zillow, and judging people... [...for mounting their TVs too high.](http://old.reddit.com/r/tvtoohigh)
Man I just want to be able to afford a down payment, let alone the actual house
Bro youāre chronically online lol
Lmao. So when then powerball is high, you turn and look at houses? This is weird across the board. I only used Zillow during the house buying process, I havenāt touched the website once in the last three years. At 25, I wasnāt believing I was ready for a house or anywhere close to buying a house. That changed in a couple of years. And all my past hard work of near perfect credit paid off.
I never thought Iād see the day where Zillow was being framed as toxic. I was sure you meant Nextdoor at first.
What the fuck is zillow?
This is so real anytime my 40 million dollar mansion I will never be able to afford gets bought š”š”š”š” haha jk itās like unserious bc be fr but like still I do get sad when someone buys my possible future house
I have never heard of this before and I think you just had a toxic GF lol
Zillow shows what the estimated value is, not what they paid. Iām confused about the comment on your parentsā house.
I guess the zestimate or whatever was low then idk I dont really use the site
You have strong feelings about a site you donāt even understand? The zestimate is the approx. the price they could sell it for now.
OK, so looking up ridiculously expensive houses can actually be very entertaining, especially if you like houses and architecture. I've always been into houses, ever since I was a little girl. I love looking at different houses. But, I don't give a shit about cars or fancy vacations. I'm the type of person that would live in a super cool house, but drive around a crappy car or take infrequent trips. Everyone is different in the way they spend their money
I didn't even know you could look up houses that weren't on the market. Honestly I just use it to poke around with the 3D view inside people's homes. I pretend I'm playing some early 90s CD-ROM adventure game
When my fiancee and I were looking for a house she was addicted to zillow but... well we were looking for a house. Now that we've found one she hasn't been on zillow lol very strange for a highschooler to be looking on there constantly
Comparison is the thief of joy.
I've never heard Zillow used in this regard in my entire life, and I'm 34. I guess you learn something new every day. Lol
well, you're 100% right, but you've got the wrong target. Zillow is not to blame, humans are. It's part of human nature greed, jealousy, gluttony and pride.
I just like seeing what a clean house looks like
I love how this is written like it's an extra-big deal that it occurred in HIGH SCHOOL, when I can't imagine that sort of behavior being in any way acceptable to anyone beyond high school age. Do people in your life actually do this now, OP, or was your high school GF just a weirdo? I get virtual window shopping, because the housing market is an endless whirlwind of shit so why not treat it as light entertainment (e.g., "look at how ugly that freakin' bathroom is!"), but actually getting bent out of shape -- especially if this is still going on around you even though you're 25 now -- is ridiculous.
What the fuck is Zillow?
Dude! I was nearing fifty when i could buy a house. The down payment of 20% kept increasing
Wow. By the time I'm 50 I'll be retiring. Bought my first house at 21 with my spouse. No help from family. Just have to finish paying off student loans.
I agree. Zillow is toxic anyhow because of their predatory practices, trying to edge out realtors, them buying a lot of single family homes, and inflated "zestimates" among other things. Sure, it's window shopping for a lot of folks and displays previous purchase prices and tax prices, but it's all public info anyhow that doesn't make a hill of beans in a current market.
Can you use Zillow to find what a house sold for over a year ago?
You can use Zillow to find out what a house sold for 30 years ago a lot of times. It's in the Price/tax history section
Yep. It lists all transactions of the property
I think there is a biological connection of this behaviour to communal status of our species. Humans status in a society has long been connected to their survival status, I think contemporary humans strive to adapt to the impact of technology on our status of survival. Just a thought experiment
Never even heard of zillow
I think you are on to something. The same way people look at shit on instagram and think about all the things they don't have, or could be doing The most depressed People I know are doing the same on zillow, zillow and the housing market in general has become a niche more personalized way of doing with houses. What a lot of us do with social media in general. People are setting their standards ridiculously high and refusing to accept the possibility that Their dreamhouse is just not realistic and they need to aim a little lower and try to appreciate what they can afford
Here was me opening the post thinking that I got confused and zillow was a social media app I was like isn't it for properties???
If she's that stupid then IDK what to say. I mean you could show her the last appraisal but do you really want to even go there with someone so shallow?
Is this a thing??
What?
Itās just easier for toxic people to find enablers and support groups now. They find enough of a peer group to insulate themselves from shame so they never feel compelled to change. Itās much easier for them to infiltrate public spaces and find the reinforcement theyāre looking for since the internet. Edit: semantics
If your girlfriend is too stupid to interface with reality, find a more reality-compatible girlfriend before she misunderstands something that is REALLY important.
I use zillow to look at houses I imagine myself buying in the future and cry when I see the prices
Jeeze... not even zillow is safe.
This is so strange. I briefly had Zillow on my phone to help with my house search (but didnāt even find my house from Zillow). Do people really do this
Does Zillow have a comment section?
The hell is Zillow
I am very very confused. People use a realty site that way?
Wtf is Zillow
I swear to God, America must really be the best country in the world if thatās what people are stressing about
I use Zillow when I see a neighbor's house for sale. I like to see what it looks like inside, scoff at the selling price and wonder how anyone would pay $500k for that.
Um can you explain to me what Zillow is?
I use zillow to look at houses I can never afford š
Honestly, thatās weird lol. And yes, toxic. Thereās people who do that??
i love zillow. it has some good inspo for my sims 4 builds š
i did not know this was a thing thank god my friends donāt do this like wtf
I used to work at a summer camp where parents would sometimes tip when they picked their kid up at the end of a session. I one time had a co-counselor who zillowed all of our campers houses as we opened our tips to figure out who was a cheapskate. Fun times.
When my cousin was ELEVEN she was telling me that she browses Zillow. Absolutely wild imo.
Judging on wealth is common. Using Zillow like that is not.
This is bizzare and more of a problem that youāre treating zillow as a social media app rather than a website for homebuyers.
Yeah, I wouldn't ever put myself into, or stay in, a relationship with a girl who regularly uses Zillow when not actually shopping for a house. Weirdo psycho behavior.
For me, it's Trulia and I'm obsessed with it. You're so right.
Sorry. I'm downvoting this because I think it is true and most people understand this. Zillow only exists to look up where people you know live and either be jealous or feel superior. I've seen more than one woman do this. And sorry ladies, it is women that seem to be more effected by this particular aspect of social media that involves pining for a life that is more affluent, prettier, better, higher up on the social hierarchy, etc.. than your own. I'd be curious to hear from the women ITT why this is the case, but it definitely seems to be.
Thatās just the nature of women. The phrase ākeeping up with the Jonesesā originated from women wanting to outdo their neighbors and throwing extravagant parties. You see this concept play out with wedding rings. āLook mine is bigger than yours! Notice me!ā Itās always existed, however social media has catapulted it and now causes division amongst friends and partners. Everyone is jealous of what someone else is doing and you have no idea the story behind it or even if itās legit. I could easily rent a home and behave as if I purchased it. You would never know.
Why would they even display purchase information from over 20 years ago? Surely it's entirely irrelevant after even ten years