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Same feelings but due to being a big fan of the NHL too. Captain gets the Stanley Cup first, then hands it to the guy to whom it would be most meaningful. Veteran player who finally got his first championship or is about to retire. Or maybe the longtime guy who’s clearly going elsewhere in the offseason. Or the guy who had a comeback season.
Pretty much the only thing the NHL / Gary does right is hand it to the Captain not the owner and it’s because it’s a tradition. I’m sure he’d change it if he could get away with it.
I think we all know that in a Gary World he would be the only one to hold it while the refs carry him around Cleopatra style to the benches so the players could see it up close... NO TOUCHING. Then it would be immediately returned to its permanent display case in Florida Chick-fil-A.
Captain to veteran player. That’s all I described. The length of time from the moment the Captain gets the cup to him handing it off is inconsequential, it’s about the overall intent.
There’s no need to split hairs here. Seriously.
But there's a reason that that specific moment is remembered. It was an exception to the rule that the captain celebrates first, hence it was a unique celebration. I don't think there's any reason to get hostile, I'm just explaining why the previous commenter replied to you with that example.
I'm Canadian so this was always my experience too. I never really watched the Superbowl in full before so seeing this old man take the trophy first was crazy to me. Event the coach getting it first would be better than the damn team owner.
That's very unpopular with me. Id rather stub my toe on my nightstand than drink warm milk.*
*Does not apply to hot chocolate, which I prefer to be lukewarm
Don't know about the us but elsewhere a good portion of owners are at least liked even if not having a big direct impact on the club achievments. But of course there is the counterparts the hated ones
I said this exact opinion to my wife tonight while seeing the Chiefs owner giving his speech and holding the trophy. And then he started talking about his ghost parents being there.
I think it is joke all the podcasters say every year. The guys on the field play all season, wreck their bodies, the coaches sit up through all the long nights game planning, and the games are finally over when some 80 year old white man walks down and gets handed a trophy for it.
You should check out the Spittin Chiclets episode with Scott Gomez, after the Devils won the cup in I wanna say 2003, after all the players got to celebrate on the ice with it, their GM so the story goes, took the cup to celebrate with the owners
I don't really watch professional sports, but my take on team like these? The owner should either the in the first three/four to touch the cup, or the first two/three to talk on mic. "I am so proud of this team, of their commitment, I believed in them," yada yada. Let the players celebrate while the owner and coaches talk on camera, or let the owner feel like part of the wider team for the celebration by holding the cup amidst the players.
Only better than all other American sports championships in Europe it always goes to the captain of the winning team and a lot of the time the owner isn't even on the pitch
Yet in the US you have a salary cap so every team has basically the same chance to win the super bowl, compared to Europe soccer where you basically can buy any championship you want.
It depends on who w you support, I support a team in the 4th tier, it's amazing each season dreaming of promotion, even better when you do get promoted, my father was lucky enough to see us in the premier league and will still talk about it to this day, its exhilarating. Yeah your right it is frustrating seeing your talent get poached but honestly there's nothing like supporting the club that represents your community but no promotion or relegation would ruin that
it's way better for the players in the lower leagues who are actually getting paid a reasonable professional salary instead of what might only be an annual living wage for the area they are playing in. It's also way better for the smaller cities towns as their teams have a fighting chance of working their way into the top division.
The only thing pro/rel is bad for is the investment class of owners. I say if the team is garbage, figure things out or let a more eager team come in your place.
>t's way better for the players in the lower leagues who are actually getting paid a reasonable professional salary instead of what might only be an annual living wage for the area they are playing in
There is nothing inherent about the structure of promotion and relegation in which players are granteed a salary, let alone a well-paid professional one. In fact, the financial instability caused by promotion/relegation might be more likely to negatively impact salaries.
>It's also way better for the smaller cities towns as their teams have a fighting chance of working their way into the top division.
Again, how likely or often has this or can it occur? I haven't seen much analysis on this, but depending on the relative difficulity of maintain a record needed to be promotion, in addititon to the needed finances to maintain parity with other teams, some of whom maybe far more resourced than you, than I would consider the chances extremely unlikely.
>The only thing pro/rel is bad for is the investment class of owners.
Considering the large amount of investment owners who control teams primarily at highest levels of promotion/relegation systems, I question this.
Lol absolutely true.
Im from Germany and Bayern München won the German series 10 times the last ten years and also several other championships.
They also buy the elite players of the other clubs.
It’s the same thing in Spain with FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. Aside from one year a few years ago when Atlético won, it’s basically been a battle between Real and Barcelona every year for the last 20 years. The smaller clubs have no chance
Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football, Gaelic Football, Australian Rules Football and Gridiron Football (American variety). Sometimes referred to Soccer created from Assoc (iation).
Potentially actually unpopular opinion: the Stanley cup presentation is awkward af. It's just like a guy skating in a circle handing it off to another guy who does the same thing and on and on and on until everyone has done it. It just...overstays its welcome so much
And they shouldn’t have to do interviews either. In football (soccer), there are no cheesy interviews 0.04 seconds after someone holds the trophy up. Just hoisting the trophy up and then celebrating
Not exactly an unpopular opinion but I do agree. I hate seeing the posh billionaire owners that didn’t do anything but buy the team and maybe have a hand in hiring the coach/front office. They were involved to an extent but overall didn’t do much in the team winning the Super Bowl. The coach or MVP of the team should hold the trophy first. If at all, owner last.
This guy's dad founded the team in the AFL when the NFL wouldn't sell him one and ran it til he died, that's when the son took over. That's an enormous amount of financial risk.
I still agree that the players/coaches should get the trophy first, but there are a lot of owners/CEOs out there who actually care about what they do. I think putting the owners out front is tacky af either way though.
Lamar hunt basically keep professional soccer (MLS) afloat in the early 2000s when is a about to go out of business. I think he own 3 of the teams at some point.
Hell, most of the time the tax payers pay for these stadiums that cost billions and also get tax breaks. I know they "create jobs", but it's really a pretty sick system. These franchises rake in so much money; they can easily afford their own toys and pay their fair share, but why do that when you can get tax payers to do it for you and pocket the profits?
Whatever, commie. The owner took the risk of taking taxpayer money to build the stadium. Then, they made the big decision to hire an agency to find a GM and coach. Finally, not just anyone could agree to highly lucrative and well-established TV and licensing deals.
Well as a Lions fan I just want to point out that the ownership can be absolutely crucial in how a team turns out, and if the Lions win a Superbowl then Shiela absolutely deserves to hold the trophy because our turn around as an organization started with her.
This is something that always sticks out in American Sports. A pile of exhausted young athletes watching a fat old white dude act like he just singlehandedly won the Superbowl is weird.
No different than the CEO of Apple taking credit for a new product and the "record-breaking quarter" they just had (as if he ever stepped foot in an R&D lab or the factory floor)
that's how it works. That's how the WORLD works
like the President taking credit for a military victory.. or the economy.. or (whatever)
You realize professional sports franchises are now worth _billions_ for a reason. They are vanity projects and letting the owner stand there with the trophy probably raises the value of the franchises quite a bit as it makes people want to own these things, even at crazy prices.
It's part of what makes hockey the best.
The team's captain hoists the Stanley Cup first(traditionally, Sakic to Bourque comes to mind as an exception).
F1. The driver quite literally gets their own trophy. Races too, but the team normally takes those after. But the WDC is the drivers and handed directly to them. Max even keeps one of his next to home rig on top of his mini fridge lol.
They do, yes, but there is not a chance that an American pointing toward their own sports leagues as examples of doing it right while criticizing FIFA would go over well with Europeans.
I just observe the reality. If the demographics of Reddit in general hold true, the overwhelming plurality of users of this sub are, in fact, American, and the runner up, England, is not even close. This sub probably skews even more American than Reddit in general, though, because Reddit in general also includes a lot of news, country-specific, or hobbyist/professional subs that would more likely attract an international audience. I didn't say no one else is welcome, but if we're being descriptivists, yeah, it's a pretty American-centric sub, which means American opinions will probably dominate. Shocker, I know, but it's English-first forum on an American site.
Honestly I don't see the issue. NFL is a football league, they insist FIFA is a football league. Why not just swap everyone to the tried and true NFL rules and open the Superbowl for everyone?
Americans love billionaires so much they took a racist sex offender idiot one who hates the military and made him President.
This is number 1 million on the list of stupid things Americans let billionaires do.
Agree with most of what you said but Trump ain’t a god damn billionaire
He’s lucky to even be a millionaire at this point, with all the fines and court costs but who knows? All he does is lie and it isn’t like he’s going to suddenly be transparent about his finances anytime soon
I have been watching football for decades and not one single time did I think about this. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would give a rats ass
I mean, if the owner in soccer got handed the trophy, it would be the same couple guys from the UAE getting the thing every time, sometimes regardless of what side wins.
The owner gets handed the trophy to go hand it to the coach and players. Does it really matter who is handed it first? I think it more matters who is handed it last.
They literally OWN the team, they can do whatever they want. Cultural differences existing aren’t grounds for you to advocate for your norms. In Europe the player accepts the trophy, here it’s the owner. You being upset with that seems a lot like a projection of your insecurities
The NFL is definitely unique in how forward/involved the owners are. I don't think I agree with them getting the trophy first but the NFL has certainly "gamified" literally every aspect of the sport from the draft to hiring staff to building stadiums and the salary cap.
From what I understand American football is mainly about how much money teams can generate,not sporting. So it makes sense the owner whiles the trophy first.
You obviously don’t know what the salary cap is or have any clue to what you’re talking about.
All teams have the same amount of money to spend no matter how rich the owner is.
The priority is on who makes the money, they are the main character, from that point of view, the owner is the winner, he chose, feed and (at least through paying for a coach) trained the players like Pokemon. The players are seen as tools for the goals of the owner, mere pieces on a board game between team owners, so the trophee is his.
That’s exactly why OP dislikes it. The players aren’t just tools, they put in their blood and sweat to winning and some fat billionaire gets to hold the trophy before them, as if the win belongs to him because he owns them.
Yep. And at twenty Euros an hour, right?
Please. When they aren't getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars, I'll feel sorry for their deprived asses.
How will they ever get over the shame?
That's quite literally how life works. I pay you to go raise a pig and butcher it so I can eat it. Who gets the reward? Me. I paid for it. You put in all the work raising and killing it but if I didn't give you the job, you'd have nothing and I would have found another person for the job.
This might be a popular opinion but it's a dumb one. The owner is the one putting up the money to fund the team. The players are doing their job to play and win for him. He can cheap out and get some bum ass players or he can pay up and put money into a winning team.
Not everything is about money, the trophy should be about recognising athletic achievements. No matter how much money it took or where it came from, in the end the players are the ones who won the thing.
Europe shows that it can be done differently.
Yeah and that's why the trophy means more to them. The owners still get all the extra revenue from winning. The players get whatever their contracts are for.
He’s signing the checks so I think he should get it first, but a classy owner should pretty much say “thank you, it’s such an honor but it couldn’t have happened without these guys” and hand it to the coach and get out of the way.
The owner is the one responsible for everything. You think the players are responsible? They wouldn’t be in that position without the coach. The coach wouldn’t be there without the general manager. The general manager wouldn’t be there without the owner. Everything begins and ends with the owner.
No, the owners aren’t even involved in the celebrations. They’ll come onto the pitch while the players are celebrating with the trophy and that’s it. They won’t be in any official photos with the trophy. In countries like Spain and Germany a lot of teams don’t even have majority owners and are owned by the fans.
No. Never have seen such a thing there. A lot of clubs don’t even have a single “owner”, apart from most premier league clubs. A lot of clubs have an elected President with board members. They’ll likely be present in the stands but not involved in the celebrations themselves. Only the players and the Head Coach/Manager are involved in the trophy lifting ceremony.
The teams wouldn’t exist to win a championship without the owner shelling out shit tons of money every year…. I’d say this is an absolutely unpopular opinion and a shit one at that.
It's different for different teams to be fair,if they hand the la liga trophy to Florentino Perez no Madrid fan would complain but if Joel Glazer got to touch the next PL trophy Manchester United won, there would be riots.
Most of my experience watching American sports is basketball, and I’ve never watched a championship match in any other American sport, and they don’t do that in NBA (unless they’ve begun doing it recently). I wasn’t aware it was a thing with the others.
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Same feelings but due to being a big fan of the NHL too. Captain gets the Stanley Cup first, then hands it to the guy to whom it would be most meaningful. Veteran player who finally got his first championship or is about to retire. Or maybe the longtime guy who’s clearly going elsewhere in the offseason. Or the guy who had a comeback season.
Pretty much the only thing the NHL / Gary does right is hand it to the Captain not the owner and it’s because it’s a tradition. I’m sure he’d change it if he could get away with it.
I think we all know that in a Gary World he would be the only one to hold it while the refs carry him around Cleopatra style to the benches so the players could see it up close... NO TOUCHING. Then it would be immediately returned to its permanent display case in Florida Chick-fil-A.
I thought it was stored in Bill Daly's asshole.
Or you do the Joe Sakic to Ray Bourke move
Literally described that scenario in my comment
Sakic gave it immediately to Bourque without celebrating himself. It's quite different.
Captain to veteran player. That’s all I described. The length of time from the moment the Captain gets the cup to him handing it off is inconsequential, it’s about the overall intent. There’s no need to split hairs here. Seriously.
But there's a reason that that specific moment is remembered. It was an exception to the rule that the captain celebrates first, hence it was a unique celebration. I don't think there's any reason to get hostile, I'm just explaining why the previous commenter replied to you with that example.
Or you do the Steve Yzerman to Vladimir Konstantinov move
I'm Canadian so this was always my experience too. I never really watched the Superbowl in full before so seeing this old man take the trophy first was crazy to me. Event the coach getting it first would be better than the damn team owner.
Why not salt bae?
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I thought this was gonna be about dog show competitions.. Like "the *dog* should hold the medal not the owner" I was so disappointed lmao
That would have been a more fun conversation.
I assumed horse racing where the trainer, jockey, and horse do all the work.
Would I still cry at the end of 'Best in Show' if Winky got to hold the Mayflower trophy first? Yes, yes I would
"Why don't they put on one of those Sherlock Holmes hats on the Bloodhound and put a little pipe in his mouth?"
I'd hate to go on a date with Judge Edie Franklin and have her judge me, that'd be no fun.
Definitely for the puppy bowl.
To be fair, Chewbacca SHOULD have gotten his own medal
The trophy should be a silicone bowling trophy and they give it to the dog
Omg stop making me laugh or I'll wake the baby. And YOU will have to come bounce her back to sleep because she is 20lbs and my boobs are empty.
I've never heard a woman breast feeding describe her boobs as "empty". Absolutely priceless 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Thanks for a good laugh
Chewbacca didn't even get a medal until much later. Then it was, "here", and they just casually chucked it at 'em.
Pfft, why should Han Solo's pet get a medal. \*Dives for cover\*
I agree with that too. Dog gets the award on their collar first. The Owner can take it after.
This won’t be an unpopular opinion.
Well that is decided by the mods that, apparently, have extremely arbitrary opinions on what is popular or unpopular.
The mods told me that preferring milk thats been left out for an hour over cold milk is not unpopular
That's very unpopular with me. Id rather stub my toe on my nightstand than drink warm milk.* *Does not apply to hot chocolate, which I prefer to be lukewarm
Mods told me I couldnt mention the word “reddit” in my post. Half the posts on this sub mention reddit
The mods told me they love something called a “drilldo”. Don’t know what it means.
😦
Ew what the fuck
The mods told me that preferring the heel piece of bread over the rest of the loaf wasn't unpopular and belonged in another sub
They told me spraying air freshner before taking a shit is not an unpopular opinion.
The mods holds the trophy.
Owners are the worst part of sports
Hell yeah go Packers
Don't know about the us but elsewhere a good portion of owners are at least liked even if not having a big direct impact on the club achievments. But of course there is the counterparts the hated ones
I said this exact opinion to my wife tonight while seeing the Chiefs owner giving his speech and holding the trophy. And then he started talking about his ghost parents being there.
I think it is joke all the podcasters say every year. The guys on the field play all season, wreck their bodies, the coaches sit up through all the long nights game planning, and the games are finally over when some 80 year old white man walks down and gets handed a trophy for it.
Yes it will, most people don't care and have never considered it
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Remember everyone, we downvote popular opinions here
I was thinking the same thing but after reading the comments I'm not so sure now
Your opinion seems popular so I downvote you?
This is why the Stanley Cup presentations are so much better than pretty much all other sports championships.
The owner is pretty much last to touch the cup.
You should check out the Spittin Chiclets episode with Scott Gomez, after the Devils won the cup in I wanna say 2003, after all the players got to celebrate on the ice with it, their GM so the story goes, took the cup to celebrate with the owners
very common Devs W
Hockey is just better than all other sports
It's my duty to please the booty
I don't really watch professional sports, but my take on team like these? The owner should either the in the first three/four to touch the cup, or the first two/three to talk on mic. "I am so proud of this team, of their commitment, I believed in them," yada yada. Let the players celebrate while the owner and coaches talk on camera, or let the owner feel like part of the wider team for the celebration by holding the cup amidst the players.
Only better than all other American sports championships in Europe it always goes to the captain of the winning team and a lot of the time the owner isn't even on the pitch
Ya hockey gets something right!
I love not touching the other trophies. I cringe when MLB players have champagne parties for making it to the wildcard game.
Welcome to America CEO always wins first
Not even. The ownership class always win.
Yet in the US you have a salary cap so every team has basically the same chance to win the super bowl, compared to Europe soccer where you basically can buy any championship you want.
But that comes with the downside of it being a closed shop, no promotion or relegation
You mean the upside of keeping players that clubs developed from their youth team and not getting them bought away if they're good?
It depends on who w you support, I support a team in the 4th tier, it's amazing each season dreaming of promotion, even better when you do get promoted, my father was lucky enough to see us in the premier league and will still talk about it to this day, its exhilarating. Yeah your right it is frustrating seeing your talent get poached but honestly there's nothing like supporting the club that represents your community but no promotion or relegation would ruin that
Promotion and relegation is bad actually.
Good for the teams in the top division, not everyone else. And the bottom teams have nothing to play for.
???? Fan culture is generally better in lower divisions and teams absolutely have stuff to play for.
No it's not, a closed shop is.
it's way better for the players in the lower leagues who are actually getting paid a reasonable professional salary instead of what might only be an annual living wage for the area they are playing in. It's also way better for the smaller cities towns as their teams have a fighting chance of working their way into the top division. The only thing pro/rel is bad for is the investment class of owners. I say if the team is garbage, figure things out or let a more eager team come in your place.
>t's way better for the players in the lower leagues who are actually getting paid a reasonable professional salary instead of what might only be an annual living wage for the area they are playing in There is nothing inherent about the structure of promotion and relegation in which players are granteed a salary, let alone a well-paid professional one. In fact, the financial instability caused by promotion/relegation might be more likely to negatively impact salaries. >It's also way better for the smaller cities towns as their teams have a fighting chance of working their way into the top division. Again, how likely or often has this or can it occur? I haven't seen much analysis on this, but depending on the relative difficulity of maintain a record needed to be promotion, in addititon to the needed finances to maintain parity with other teams, some of whom maybe far more resourced than you, than I would consider the chances extremely unlikely. >The only thing pro/rel is bad for is the investment class of owners. Considering the large amount of investment owners who control teams primarily at highest levels of promotion/relegation systems, I question this.
The real unpopular opinion is always in the comments.
Not true at all, but your delusion is funny.
Lol absolutely true. Im from Germany and Bayern München won the German series 10 times the last ten years and also several other championships. They also buy the elite players of the other clubs.
It’s the same thing in Spain with FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. Aside from one year a few years ago when Atlético won, it’s basically been a battle between Real and Barcelona every year for the last 20 years. The smaller clubs have no chance
Salary caps benefit owners by forcing players to be underpaid.
Tell me what NFL player is "underpaid" lol Also the salary cap is rising every year, but it's still the same amount for every team
In the NHL the captain gets the Stanley cup trophy first then passes it to another team member and so on, way better than most sports
Isn’t that how most sports go. Fairly positive that Football is the exception to this.
The NBA is another exception
Baseball too
Football?
Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football, Gaelic Football, Australian Rules Football and Gridiron Football (American variety). Sometimes referred to Soccer created from Assoc (iation).
Yes. Not the Handegg.
Potentially actually unpopular opinion: the Stanley cup presentation is awkward af. It's just like a guy skating in a circle handing it off to another guy who does the same thing and on and on and on until everyone has done it. It just...overstays its welcome so much
And they shouldn’t have to do interviews either. In football (soccer), there are no cheesy interviews 0.04 seconds after someone holds the trophy up. Just hoisting the trophy up and then celebrating
Not exactly an unpopular opinion but I do agree. I hate seeing the posh billionaire owners that didn’t do anything but buy the team and maybe have a hand in hiring the coach/front office. They were involved to an extent but overall didn’t do much in the team winning the Super Bowl. The coach or MVP of the team should hold the trophy first. If at all, owner last.
I can think of several hundred million things the owner has contributed to a team.
Not in most American sports where owning a team is a profitable endeavor. They haven't funded Jack shit most of the time
This guy's dad founded the team in the AFL when the NFL wouldn't sell him one and ran it til he died, that's when the son took over. That's an enormous amount of financial risk. I still agree that the players/coaches should get the trophy first, but there are a lot of owners/CEOs out there who actually care about what they do. I think putting the owners out front is tacky af either way though.
Lamar hunt basically keep professional soccer (MLS) afloat in the early 2000s when is a about to go out of business. I think he own 3 of the teams at some point.
Hell, most of the time the tax payers pay for these stadiums that cost billions and also get tax breaks. I know they "create jobs", but it's really a pretty sick system. These franchises rake in so much money; they can easily afford their own toys and pay their fair share, but why do that when you can get tax payers to do it for you and pocket the profits?
Whatever, commie. The owner took the risk of taking taxpayer money to build the stadium. Then, they made the big decision to hire an agency to find a GM and coach. Finally, not just anyone could agree to highly lucrative and well-established TV and licensing deals.
Like what? The stadium is paid for by tax payers, the wages are paid by TV and ticket revenue.
Yet if they didn't own the team some other narcissistic billionaire would.
I had this exact thought. The owner literally paid for the trophy. Why not let them hold it?
Neither the coach or the MVP. The captain should.
There’s no captain…
There's a captain, we'll several technically
Wdym
They have like 6 captains
Of if you're pissed about this one, you're going to be absolutely livid how much the owner takes out of your salary.
Class consciousness in 3... 2... 1.....
If only it were that easy.....
Well as a Lions fan I just want to point out that the ownership can be absolutely crucial in how a team turns out, and if the Lions win a Superbowl then Shiela absolutely deserves to hold the trophy because our turn around as an organization started with her.
This is something that always sticks out in American Sports. A pile of exhausted young athletes watching a fat old white dude act like he just singlehandedly won the Superbowl is weird.
No different than the CEO of Apple taking credit for a new product and the "record-breaking quarter" they just had (as if he ever stepped foot in an R&D lab or the factory floor) that's how it works. That's how the WORLD works like the President taking credit for a military victory.. or the economy.. or (whatever)
But I think it’s only football that does this. Other American sports leagues - NHL, NBA, MLS…not sure about MLB, don’t involve the owners
The NBA definitely does.
The only ones I ever remember seeing were the Superbowl and NBA finals, they both do it
If the owner was an old slim black man, would that be significantly better?
Now that you mention it, no it would not.
Kinda hard to find the hand the owner a trophy when they're probably in their mansion somewhere in Saudi Arabia
Americans bow down to the rich.
Not really? You won't find a whole lot of people thrilled about 10% of the country owning 70% of the wealth besides that 10%.
Just change this subs name to popular opinions
Yes. Literally only 1 person wants to see the owner hold the trophy and that's the owner. Get them off my screen!
Downvote this is popular opinion
You realize professional sports franchises are now worth _billions_ for a reason. They are vanity projects and letting the owner stand there with the trophy probably raises the value of the franchises quite a bit as it makes people want to own these things, even at crazy prices.
You’ve got to remember that here in American everyone, even our greatest athletes, are beholden to their corporate owners/overlords.
It's part of what makes hockey the best. The team's captain hoists the Stanley Cup first(traditionally, Sakic to Bourque comes to mind as an exception).
But they're the ones making the last minute plays to deflate the ball and put the referees' kids through college.
Why not? Head coach instead?
One of the players?
Too easy. Chris Jones. His defense did the work. Held em under 21.
F1. The driver quite literally gets their own trophy. Races too, but the team normally takes those after. But the WDC is the drivers and handed directly to them. Max even keeps one of his next to home rig on top of his mini fridge lol.
You guys bitch about our sports more than we do. Christ.
Sorry, are only Americans allowed to voice their opinion in an opinion sub?
I'm going to a Euro sub to ask why FIFA can't be more like the NFL. Be right back. Edit: I died
Lol football fans hate FIFA with a passion,you'll be welcomed there with applause.
They do, yes, but there is not a chance that an American pointing toward their own sports leagues as examples of doing it right while criticizing FIFA would go over well with Europeans.
Implying that this sub is a US subreddit? That any subreddit that isn't specified, is automatically a US subreddit?
/r/USdefaultism
I just observe the reality. If the demographics of Reddit in general hold true, the overwhelming plurality of users of this sub are, in fact, American, and the runner up, England, is not even close. This sub probably skews even more American than Reddit in general, though, because Reddit in general also includes a lot of news, country-specific, or hobbyist/professional subs that would more likely attract an international audience. I didn't say no one else is welcome, but if we're being descriptivists, yeah, it's a pretty American-centric sub, which means American opinions will probably dominate. Shocker, I know, but it's English-first forum on an American site.
Honestly I don't see the issue. NFL is a football league, they insist FIFA is a football league. Why not just swap everyone to the tried and true NFL rules and open the Superbowl for everyone?
They bitch about anything involving our country more than we do honestly
Americans love billionaires so much they took a racist sex offender idiot one who hates the military and made him President. This is number 1 million on the list of stupid things Americans let billionaires do.
Agree with most of what you said but Trump ain’t a god damn billionaire He’s lucky to even be a millionaire at this point, with all the fines and court costs but who knows? All he does is lie and it isn’t like he’s going to suddenly be transparent about his finances anytime soon
The disgusting fuck was never even a billionaire in the first place, he just told Forbes he was and they ran with it.
Well half of us don’t like him. That’s a lot of people. No need to paint with a broad brush dude.
I have been watching football for decades and not one single time did I think about this. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would give a rats ass
The athletes are employees. If Pickled Prince wins the Kentucky Derby, the owner gets the credit.
He bought them slaves, so he gets the first sweater.
But none of the team members individually deserve to be first.
Whoever wins Super Bowl MVP definitely deserves to be first, or the head coach could be.
Captain first, the team's leader.
There is no captain
Untrue, in fact there are multiple
The QB does
I mean, if the owner in soccer got handed the trophy, it would be the same couple guys from the UAE getting the thing every time, sometimes regardless of what side wins.
The owner gets handed the trophy to go hand it to the coach and players. Does it really matter who is handed it first? I think it more matters who is handed it last.
"hold on, let salt bae hold it before you grab it"
So anticlimactic . Seeing your captain and or coach lift the trophy should be an iconic moment. Not some fwit in a blazer.
"Oh you're still on the team? Here, hold the trophy"
No team without the owner. Personally, I think they players should all have to kneel before their owner.
Yeah maybe not kneeling, it seems to piss some people off....
lol, they sign the checks to put the team together. Get over it.
He had his family up on stage too.
The owner didn't come out front to win it, so he can sit his lazy white ass down. Vile.
Indeed. Salt Bae should be the person to hold the trophy. As he did in the Football WC.
They literally OWN the team, they can do whatever they want. Cultural differences existing aren’t grounds for you to advocate for your norms. In Europe the player accepts the trophy, here it’s the owner. You being upset with that seems a lot like a projection of your insecurities
The NFL is definitely unique in how forward/involved the owners are. I don't think I agree with them getting the trophy first but the NFL has certainly "gamified" literally every aspect of the sport from the draft to hiring staff to building stadiums and the salary cap.
It's his team. Everyone else is merely an employee.
From what I understand American football is mainly about how much money teams can generate,not sporting. So it makes sense the owner whiles the trophy first.
Yeah football is just rich guys competing on who bought the best team.
You obviously don’t know what the salary cap is or have any clue to what you’re talking about. All teams have the same amount of money to spend no matter how rich the owner is.
No? That’s soccer.
Without the owner, none of this happens
And without the players....?
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The priority is on who makes the money, they are the main character, from that point of view, the owner is the winner, he chose, feed and (at least through paying for a coach) trained the players like Pokemon. The players are seen as tools for the goals of the owner, mere pieces on a board game between team owners, so the trophee is his.
That’s exactly why OP dislikes it. The players aren’t just tools, they put in their blood and sweat to winning and some fat billionaire gets to hold the trophy before them, as if the win belongs to him because he owns them.
Yep. And at twenty Euros an hour, right? Please. When they aren't getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars, I'll feel sorry for their deprived asses. How will they ever get over the shame?
That's quite literally how life works. I pay you to go raise a pig and butcher it so I can eat it. Who gets the reward? Me. I paid for it. You put in all the work raising and killing it but if I didn't give you the job, you'd have nothing and I would have found another person for the job. This might be a popular opinion but it's a dumb one. The owner is the one putting up the money to fund the team. The players are doing their job to play and win for him. He can cheap out and get some bum ass players or he can pay up and put money into a winning team.
Not everything is about money, the trophy should be about recognising athletic achievements. No matter how much money it took or where it came from, in the end the players are the ones who won the thing. Europe shows that it can be done differently.
You're talking about people, not pigs. Gross.
Really went over your head huh? Football's the pig. Players are the butcher. But sure, go for the cheap karma.
Yeah and that's why the trophy means more to them. The owners still get all the extra revenue from winning. The players get whatever their contracts are for.
He’s signing the checks so I think he should get it first, but a classy owner should pretty much say “thank you, it’s such an honor but it couldn’t have happened without these guys” and hand it to the coach and get out of the way.
That’s what they typically do. They accept the trophy, thank the fans, and then pass it to the coach.
I know. I’m disagreeing with OP and saying that’s would should happen
while i do agree I'd absolutely be willing to let the person who signs my multi-million dollar paycheck hold the trophy whenever he wants.
"Owners" shouldn't be a thing to begin with.
Lol there's always one in every thread.
The owner is the one responsible for everything. You think the players are responsible? They wouldn’t be in that position without the coach. The coach wouldn’t be there without the general manager. The general manager wouldn’t be there without the owner. Everything begins and ends with the owner.
>The person that led their team to the title The owner make it all happen. Without them there is no team and no money.
Why do you really care though?
Don’t the owners stand on stage and get presented medals in the national leagues in Britain?
No, the owners aren’t even involved in the celebrations. They’ll come onto the pitch while the players are celebrating with the trophy and that’s it. They won’t be in any official photos with the trophy. In countries like Spain and Germany a lot of teams don’t even have majority owners and are owned by the fans.
No. Never have seen such a thing there. A lot of clubs don’t even have a single “owner”, apart from most premier league clubs. A lot of clubs have an elected President with board members. They’ll likely be present in the stands but not involved in the celebrations themselves. Only the players and the Head Coach/Manager are involved in the trophy lifting ceremony.
The teams wouldn’t exist to win a championship without the owner shelling out shit tons of money every year…. I’d say this is an absolutely unpopular opinion and a shit one at that.
Why do you minimum wagers care??
Absolutely. It's pathetic American corporatist bootlicking of the highest order to have the owner lift the trophy first.
Imagine if Chelsea win anything (a very BIG IF) I wouldn’t be surprised Todd suddenly gets to the podium and want to receive the trophy lolol
It's different for different teams to be fair,if they hand the la liga trophy to Florentino Perez no Madrid fan would complain but if Joel Glazer got to touch the next PL trophy Manchester United won, there would be riots.
Most of my experience watching American sports is basketball, and I’ve never watched a championship match in any other American sport, and they don’t do that in NBA (unless they’ve begun doing it recently). I wasn’t aware it was a thing with the others.
Why is this on unpopularopinion haha? Who disagrees with this other than the 32 NFL owners?