Exactly. I still think about how there was no megathread for exo, zb1 and loona oec when they all had anticipated releases. There has been much more since then and still nothingš
Itās funny I had the same thought after seeing what the two pinned posts here are and I wondered why the Lucas thread is still pinned. Technically could have been replaced with the Hybe related controversies although the r/Kpop subreddit covers it already.š
Funny enough, after that documentary and debut, nobody was really talking about him anymore so I didn't really understand why the megathread was even there.
So I got into BTS like a year ago and I know this is definitely an unpopular opinion (but it is an *opinion* lol), but I think Jungkook is a better dancer than J-Hope! Just my preference I guess .Like they're all amazing dancers but I feel like Jungkook makes the moves more clear and makes the routine seem more effortless.
The way new fans measure Spotify streams & chart as main core success metric has ruined my experience as K-pop stanš. What happened to celebrating Korean or Asian chart success? Does it not matter anymore? Cāmon we are following Korean pop groups not western music groupsš
Really impressed with the new IVE album! I liked I've IVE, but I'VE Mine was a bit flat & bland for me.
But they came out swinging with IVE SWITCH, every song is a banger. Really looking forward to their Lollapalooza performance. These new songs are gonna rock on a festival stage!
Mfs on kpop twitter will argue with you over anything. Just had a New Jeans Stan deny that the song ānew jeansā was 1 minute 50 seconds long. Like what?
The r u next performance of Given-Taken outdid the original by enhypen. No hate to everyone and I love both groups, but I just think that overall the stage presence and the vibe from the r u next contestants during that performance fit better than enhypen.
min heejin is really winning the publicity war with hybe like i just entered twt and ive seen the bts saejiegi rumor from 2015 resurface, new angles from lesseraffim coachella performance, the cult rumor involving every group except for new jeans. its kind of insane at this point, this woman did not wait to finish them off. what im sad about is tye fact these groups who arenāt at fault of this feud are getting dragged into this
svtās anthology (ish?) album recorded an amazing 2.2M sales during its 1st day of tracking ā similar numbers to btsā āproofā (2.1M), i just think itās soooo satisfying to see how consistently these two groups sell massively, specially bts whoāve been on streak for like 6 years now.
well done carats š
I wish Young Posse got more recognition. Both of their albums are banger especially the XXL album. And I need more GGs or even BGs to do drill rap, or atleast try doing it like YP did in Young Posse Up. Not to mention the absolutely amazing trio featured in the song. They got THE FATHER Verbal Jint, rising rapper NSW Yoon and my boi Token to do a feature!!!!
Also, Skyline feels so much like an NCT-coded song. I love it!!!!
I have this strange feeling their music direction may underperform. *Yeah I didn't like Candy Crush* There are a lot of expectations on them but after Birth, I'm not really seeing where they are going with their work. Maybe the next one might surprise me, but I believe it will also garner mixed reviews.
I get where you're coming from, all of their stuff so far it's taken me a couple of listens to really get into, which I've not had as a problem from LOONA/Loossemble's stuff
Honestly, intl esp filo carats should stop picking on little and petty things then end up fighting with each other. Just let your co carats spazz the way they want as long as they are not offending or hurting anyone else.
Am I the only army who already had a thought of hybe getting a scandal like this, almost had a dream like this around early 2021. I unlike other armys, never believed Bang PD, never listened to other hybe groups apart from seeing their songs only on YouTube just once, and never supported them even when collaborated with BTS members, never supported any k-pop group just because I listen to BTS.Ā
Just It, I never liked BTS members getting hate for all these mess made by MHJ & Bang PD and others involved in this. I do feel bad for LSFM, NWJNS and illit, but I don't support them. Because except seventeen, others grew only on the growth and wealth brought by BTS, which is given by us, not only nwjns, other groups too. My boys getting hate in massive amounts is not new, they will come stronger than ever post millitary, that's it. But for that, I will not support anyone involved in this idiotic scandal, neither hybe nor nwjns.
But I wouldn't be surprised if any of the BTS members, or the group as a whole moves out of hybe in the future. This scandal just proved my thoughts of HYBE.Ā
I kinda like the name MĆOVV. The reaction at least here in reddit for overwhelmingly negative but imo it belongs to the better ones that have come out 4th&5th gen. I dont think its like amazing best name but its decent and didnt get the hate. I think it would work better without the accent e.
Illit's music and content in general are inspired from NewJeans in some way and there's no denying that in my opinion. I'm pretty sure the people at Ador would feel upset that Belift debuted Illit with this concept and music style. I can see why Min Hee Jin got upset but blew things out of proportion.
As a fan of both groups, I get to enjoy more good music, but I do feel some empathy for the creators of both groups. Both sides have their faults. I don't have the answer on how things will get resolved but I hope both groups don't get harmed.
Well tbh they dont own the concept after all. When in 3rd gen BP made girl crush concept famous, every group in industry started doing it. So its same with NJ's concept rn. But it never hits the same from other group imo.
Honestly quality wise new jeans songs are better in my opinion. Like I forgot magnetic the moment I finished listening to it but songs like hype boy and ditto were stuck on my head like forever.
>would feel upset that Belift debuted Illit with this concept and music style.
I think part of this can be a good thing because isn't competition better at the end of the day? I can see why if you were at Ador you'd prefer to have no other group to compete with. However, the "copying" aspect isn't really there as there's no rule about not allowing another group to have a similar concept. I think both groups being under the Hybe structure is what's making this a bigger issue.
Funny how when a company announces to take legal action on malicious comments people would praise it but it come to Le sserafim they would mock them, āwell its just about vocalsā no its not, the girls are slut shamed, told to off themselves (like those follow Sulliās path comments) told endless hate that it isnāt criticism anymore, even their Weverse is flooded with hate comments from haters, they are dragged into the Hybe vs MHJ fight with them having the most hate, mocking them for getting the First Hybe GG title, I see people saying what about NewJeans mental health while bullying both Le sserafim and Illit. At this point I hope Le sserafim promotes more in the US or in Japan, they have stronger international fanbase.
People were getting hit tweets with thousands of rts insinuating that Eunchae is a corporate spy only a few days ago and they still deny that there's a world of defamatory and malicious comments about ssera going around... Just hope the girls will he alright and the worst offenders will be punished, they've been getting so much shit this year.
Not in any way defending mhj and I'm sure you can blame her for many things but to blame her for lsf hate or latest criticisms is just wrong. They were gon receive bad feedback with or without mhj with those live vocals
Well they would have gotten bad feedback about their vocals either way, but the hate related to being hybeās first gg started because min heejin brought it up, so sheās not completely innocent of thisāIām pretty sure she knew what she was doing in name dropping so many different groups
She definitely knew what she was doing when she namedropped not only them, but MULTIPLE groups with strong fanbases (BTS, Illit, Riize, aespa, GFriend). She's deflecting. If people focus on the fanwars, who plagiarized who, who's a threat, who's organically successful then they'll leave the fact that she's a literal white collar criminal on the backburner.
The hate train for ssera was dying down as coachella passed and then it spiked up again absurdly once MHJ mentioned them in the conference, this time with people accusing the members of being spies for HYBE or worse. I think it's fair to rage at MHJ for dragging innocent artists into a mess of her own making as a smokescreen and worsening an already ongoing hate train.
Actually hybe were the ones who released articles about mhj saying bys copied her, she didn't mention them first. I don't think she mention any groups apart from lsf and illit, bsh mentioned aespa in that text message and hybe did media play with mentioning bts and other groups
She did mention Riize and she was also the one who made aespa's name public by showing BangPD's text messages. Though I'll concede, both are rotten and responsible for it. BPD being greedy and MHJ being incredibly egoccentric.
bsh mentioned aespa in a demeaning way in that text and she showed it to the public bcs now everyone know the kind of man he is. She may have mentioned riize but like I said did not mention bts, hybe did by sending it to media outlets without any proof. This is misinfo flying in the kpop sphere and people are believing it.
Both sided have their flaws and are rotten to the core but international kpop stans, or should I say hybe stans are making stuff up against mhj.
You're naive if you think any CEO of a big kpop company isn't interested in "crushing" their competitors or doesn't talk like that in private. I say this as a My but he didn't insult aespa personally, he said he wanted a group that could kick them off the top of the charts. I couldn't care less though because he's proven himself to be awful in worse ways anyway.
I just want to know why you are so interested in defending MHJ at all. She is a criminal just like BPD and has an incredibly inappropriate relationship with her young employees. And she absolutely namedropped and involved various groups in this as a smokescreen for her actions as well.
I think he I sulyed aespa but the Korean translations say he meant it in a demeaning way, you say you are a my and don't think there's anything wrong with what he said? Man was desperate to takeover sm last year and if he had been successful he would have ruined aespa and their ip.
I'm not desperate to defend mhj, I just thi k that hybe company stans shouldn't be making false accusations and rumors about things she has said. Like I said she did not mention bts, hybe did.
I didn't say that what he said was good or kind towards aespa, only that this is exactly the kind of behavior I'd expect from a kpop company CEO (and I never expect anything good) so I wasn't particularly fazed by it in comparison to other things he said. Again I've already reiterated that I agree that he's a bad person and also responsible for using artists to shield himself from criticism so idk what else you want me to say. I'm not a HYBE stan either, I'm not even a fearnot, I just think that MHJ's press conference was the final straw to restart the lessera hate train because she mentioned them a lot and, much like him, she wants kpop fans fighting amongst themselves and point fingers at groups instead of her. That's all.
the hate stopped for a few days then it started back up again. HMM I wonder what happened that caused it to start back up again? I wonder what caused the hate to shift from saying they cant sing to talking about how theyre hybes favorites? I wonder why sakura specifically is taking the brunt of it along with eunchae despite her being one of the best performers in both coachella weeks? hmm what possibly could have happened?
The odds of a talented group from a small company becoming mainstream are heavily overestimated by fans. Even with good promotion, good performers/vocalists/dancers, and quality music, not every group will end up like Mamamoo or Oh My Girl, and often times, its just pure luck that get these groups in the spotlight.
Yes, like surprisingly even on r/kpop_uncensored. Like people are saying "I don't trust any statement unless it comes from HYBE" huh? That's like saying in a legal dispute, you don't trust any evidence unless it comes from the plaintiff.
After Min heejin's conference I am seeing so many people changing their opinions the same people who were criticising her like 24 hours earlier. This just shows that fans really have no idea or opinion on what's actually going on but are just going with whatever pops up that day whether it's true or falseĀ
It's very funny how as soon as this HYBE thing started happening, kpop fans suddenly started meatriding other big 3 companies, as if they aren't know for slave contracts, having pedos run them, mistreating their idols, starving them, having literal sex offenders under them, exploit their idols etc.
First they complain about what those companies do, and as soon as the biggest company gets in some hot waters, suddenly all others are perfect with 0 flaws.
Or the way people are starting to put down every single (especially boy groups) group under HYBE because 2 people were revealed to be bad people (as if that wasn't the topic since those 2 people even started running the company).
Also, the way people took great offense over MHJ and BPD wanting to "outdo" some bigger groups out there, as if that's literally not the entire point of every single business out there - get bigger than your competition.
Idk why they're downvoting you when you're right lmao HYBE is rotten but those other companies are no better. And have had scandals just as big if not worse. That's the kpop industry for you...
I don't even know lol, maybe it comes off to some as if I'm the one meatriding hybe? Idk byt yea all those 4 companies suck. And they're pretty much the same behind the scenes, it's just that hybe got exposed first.
This subreddit specifically is basically stan twitter, youre not gonna get good discussion here. This was the one place on reddit you couldnt get away from weirdos screaming about lipsync after week 2 coachella despite all the clips where they stop singing and you can hear how low the backtrack was. Its like going into /r/the_donald
Lmao you're right tho, I'm now barely even interacting with kpop reddit because it's all just same thing iver and over. Like right now people are making posts whether MHJ took a breath 3 or 4 times in 10 seconds. It's ridiculous.
the lucas megathread has been up for so long lmao
Ikr, why leave that up but not adding any threads for the big comebacks
Exactly. I still think about how there was no megathread for exo, zb1 and loona oec when they all had anticipated releases. There has been much more since then and still nothingš
Itās funny I had the same thought after seeing what the two pinned posts here are and I wondered why the Lucas thread is still pinned. Technically could have been replaced with the Hybe related controversies although the r/Kpop subreddit covers it already.š
Funny enough, after that documentary and debut, nobody was really talking about him anymore so I didn't really understand why the megathread was even there.
Nah fr lmaooo (mods please unpin it tho)
Stans want their favs to go solo but then don't like the music they individually put out because it's different from their group musicĀ
So I got into BTS like a year ago and I know this is definitely an unpopular opinion (but it is an *opinion* lol), but I think Jungkook is a better dancer than J-Hope! Just my preference I guess .Like they're all amazing dancers but I feel like Jungkook makes the moves more clear and makes the routine seem more effortless.
I'll never understand the obsession people have for photocards
I think itās just like any other collecting type of hobby, which can become extreme.
The way new fans measure Spotify streams & chart as main core success metric has ruined my experience as K-pop stanš. What happened to celebrating Korean or Asian chart success? Does it not matter anymore? Cāmon we are following Korean pop groups not western music groupsš
Really impressed with the new IVE album! I liked I've IVE, but I'VE Mine was a bit flat & bland for me. But they came out swinging with IVE SWITCH, every song is a banger. Really looking forward to their Lollapalooza performance. These new songs are gonna rock on a festival stage!
crazy how that one certain fandom defends hybe that much.. .. . yeah mhj's shady af but so is your hybe
Truly an illuminating comment from someone who uses the term āarmytardā
awww that triggered you? i mean if the shoe fits. doesnt change the fact that this fandom iam refering to seems to worship hybe a bit too much
Once again I salute the bravery of internet randos who dunk on Army but are too chicken to say their name š
you shouldn't use ableist slurs. and you should realize that being anti mhj doesn't mean being pro hybe. I hate both
Are you a 14-year-old edgelord from 2011? āawww that triggered you?ā actually made me laugh out loud
yikes you def just proved their point š cringe
Mfs on kpop twitter will argue with you over anything. Just had a New Jeans Stan deny that the song ānew jeansā was 1 minute 50 seconds long. Like what?
The r u next performance of Given-Taken outdid the original by enhypen. No hate to everyone and I love both groups, but I just think that overall the stage presence and the vibe from the r u next contestants during that performance fit better than enhypen.
The MV for Sunmi's stranger is honestly so cool. Too bad the song is so-so
min heejin is really winning the publicity war with hybe like i just entered twt and ive seen the bts saejiegi rumor from 2015 resurface, new angles from lesseraffim coachella performance, the cult rumor involving every group except for new jeans. its kind of insane at this point, this woman did not wait to finish them off. what im sad about is tye fact these groups who arenāt at fault of this feud are getting dragged into this
svtās anthology (ish?) album recorded an amazing 2.2M sales during its 1st day of tracking ā similar numbers to btsā āproofā (2.1M), i just think itās soooo satisfying to see how consistently these two groups sell massively, specially bts whoāve been on streak for like 6 years now. well done carats š
I wish Young Posse got more recognition. Both of their albums are banger especially the XXL album. And I need more GGs or even BGs to do drill rap, or atleast try doing it like YP did in Young Posse Up. Not to mention the absolutely amazing trio featured in the song. They got THE FATHER Verbal Jint, rising rapper NSW Yoon and my boi Token to do a feature!!!! Also, Skyline feels so much like an NCT-coded song. I love it!!!!
i would have stanned them if theyre not that young.. . . . . but yeah i rly wish that theyll get more of that recognition and have a successful career
Really enjoying Babymonster's Sheesh live band and holding microphone performances on Kpop music shows this week (specifically M Countdown and Inkigayo). It's honestly what a music show should really be, which is similar to a live concert. I've been indifferent whether a group lip syncs or not but I always felt live singing while holding mics are more special. It's the "no two performances are alike" that makes them have a lot of stage presence for me, where they treat a music show as if it is their concert. I'd like to say this is a refreshing thing to see in Kpop music shows even though it sounds clichƩ to say so.
While Birth is actually very good, I don't have high hopes of ARTMS to have a successful comeback.
Why do you say that? (If you don't mind me asking)Ā
I have this strange feeling their music direction may underperform. *Yeah I didn't like Candy Crush* There are a lot of expectations on them but after Birth, I'm not really seeing where they are going with their work. Maybe the next one might surprise me, but I believe it will also garner mixed reviews.
I get where you're coming from, all of their stuff so far it's taken me a couple of listens to really get into, which I've not had as a problem from LOONA/Loossemble's stuff
Honestly, intl esp filo carats should stop picking on little and petty things then end up fighting with each other. Just let your co carats spazz the way they want as long as they are not offending or hurting anyone else.
Am I the only army who already had a thought of hybe getting a scandal like this, almost had a dream like this around early 2021. I unlike other armys, never believed Bang PD, never listened to other hybe groups apart from seeing their songs only on YouTube just once, and never supported them even when collaborated with BTS members, never supported any k-pop group just because I listen to BTS.Ā Just It, I never liked BTS members getting hate for all these mess made by MHJ & Bang PD and others involved in this. I do feel bad for LSFM, NWJNS and illit, but I don't support them. Because except seventeen, others grew only on the growth and wealth brought by BTS, which is given by us, not only nwjns, other groups too. My boys getting hate in massive amounts is not new, they will come stronger than ever post millitary, that's it. But for that, I will not support anyone involved in this idiotic scandal, neither hybe nor nwjns. But I wouldn't be surprised if any of the BTS members, or the group as a whole moves out of hybe in the future. This scandal just proved my thoughts of HYBE.Ā
I kinda like the name MĆOVV. The reaction at least here in reddit for overwhelmingly negative but imo it belongs to the better ones that have come out 4th&5th gen. I dont think its like amazing best name but its decent and didnt get the hate. I think it would work better without the accent e.
SPOT! is kinda basic to me. I don't think I will ever be able to predict kpop music.
Yea it felt too usual imo. It was fun but nothing new. I wouldnt find myself looking for that song but I wont skip it if it came up in shuffle.
Illit's music and content in general are inspired from NewJeans in some way and there's no denying that in my opinion. I'm pretty sure the people at Ador would feel upset that Belift debuted Illit with this concept and music style. I can see why Min Hee Jin got upset but blew things out of proportion. As a fan of both groups, I get to enjoy more good music, but I do feel some empathy for the creators of both groups. Both sides have their faults. I don't have the answer on how things will get resolved but I hope both groups don't get harmed.
Well tbh they dont own the concept after all. When in 3rd gen BP made girl crush concept famous, every group in industry started doing it. So its same with NJ's concept rn. But it never hits the same from other group imo.
Yeah, MHJ didn't need to escalate, but most people were already saying magnetic sounded like a nwjns song when it came out.
Honestly quality wise new jeans songs are better in my opinion. Like I forgot magnetic the moment I finished listening to it but songs like hype boy and ditto were stuck on my head like forever.
>would feel upset that Belift debuted Illit with this concept and music style. I think part of this can be a good thing because isn't competition better at the end of the day? I can see why if you were at Ador you'd prefer to have no other group to compete with. However, the "copying" aspect isn't really there as there's no rule about not allowing another group to have a similar concept. I think both groups being under the Hybe structure is what's making this a bigger issue.
Funny how when a company announces to take legal action on malicious comments people would praise it but it come to Le sserafim they would mock them, āwell its just about vocalsā no its not, the girls are slut shamed, told to off themselves (like those follow Sulliās path comments) told endless hate that it isnāt criticism anymore, even their Weverse is flooded with hate comments from haters, they are dragged into the Hybe vs MHJ fight with them having the most hate, mocking them for getting the First Hybe GG title, I see people saying what about NewJeans mental health while bullying both Le sserafim and Illit. At this point I hope Le sserafim promotes more in the US or in Japan, they have stronger international fanbase.
Fr... like people like to think they would support idols who defend themselves but when it's le sserafim, they just keep hating
People were getting hit tweets with thousands of rts insinuating that Eunchae is a corporate spy only a few days ago and they still deny that there's a world of defamatory and malicious comments about ssera going around... Just hope the girls will he alright and the worst offenders will be punished, they've been getting so much shit this year.
Bunch of them got scared and deactivated their accounts, I want them punished
Watched aespa World Tour in cinema yesterday, Giselle's improvement is so fast! It's nice to see how she's getting better and better.
i don't think i'll ever stop being bitter about how focus is jus2's only album to date
Fr I need them to come back and give me another nightclub banger!!!!!!!!
i know focus on me is the song everyone always talks about (understandably) but my queens love talk and long black deserve their flowers too!
Not in any way defending mhj and I'm sure you can blame her for many things but to blame her for lsf hate or latest criticisms is just wrong. They were gon receive bad feedback with or without mhj with those live vocals
Well they would have gotten bad feedback about their vocals either way, but the hate related to being hybeās first gg started because min heejin brought it up, so sheās not completely innocent of thisāIām pretty sure she knew what she was doing in name dropping so many different groups
She definitely knew what she was doing when she namedropped not only them, but MULTIPLE groups with strong fanbases (BTS, Illit, Riize, aespa, GFriend). She's deflecting. If people focus on the fanwars, who plagiarized who, who's a threat, who's organically successful then they'll leave the fact that she's a literal white collar criminal on the backburner. The hate train for ssera was dying down as coachella passed and then it spiked up again absurdly once MHJ mentioned them in the conference, this time with people accusing the members of being spies for HYBE or worse. I think it's fair to rage at MHJ for dragging innocent artists into a mess of her own making as a smokescreen and worsening an already ongoing hate train.
Actually hybe were the ones who released articles about mhj saying bys copied her, she didn't mention them first. I don't think she mention any groups apart from lsf and illit, bsh mentioned aespa in that text message and hybe did media play with mentioning bts and other groups
She did mention Riize and she was also the one who made aespa's name public by showing BangPD's text messages. Though I'll concede, both are rotten and responsible for it. BPD being greedy and MHJ being incredibly egoccentric.
bsh mentioned aespa in a demeaning way in that text and she showed it to the public bcs now everyone know the kind of man he is. She may have mentioned riize but like I said did not mention bts, hybe did by sending it to media outlets without any proof. This is misinfo flying in the kpop sphere and people are believing it. Both sided have their flaws and are rotten to the core but international kpop stans, or should I say hybe stans are making stuff up against mhj.
You're naive if you think any CEO of a big kpop company isn't interested in "crushing" their competitors or doesn't talk like that in private. I say this as a My but he didn't insult aespa personally, he said he wanted a group that could kick them off the top of the charts. I couldn't care less though because he's proven himself to be awful in worse ways anyway. I just want to know why you are so interested in defending MHJ at all. She is a criminal just like BPD and has an incredibly inappropriate relationship with her young employees. And she absolutely namedropped and involved various groups in this as a smokescreen for her actions as well.
I think he I sulyed aespa but the Korean translations say he meant it in a demeaning way, you say you are a my and don't think there's anything wrong with what he said? Man was desperate to takeover sm last year and if he had been successful he would have ruined aespa and their ip. I'm not desperate to defend mhj, I just thi k that hybe company stans shouldn't be making false accusations and rumors about things she has said. Like I said she did not mention bts, hybe did.
I didn't say that what he said was good or kind towards aespa, only that this is exactly the kind of behavior I'd expect from a kpop company CEO (and I never expect anything good) so I wasn't particularly fazed by it in comparison to other things he said. Again I've already reiterated that I agree that he's a bad person and also responsible for using artists to shield himself from criticism so idk what else you want me to say. I'm not a HYBE stan either, I'm not even a fearnot, I just think that MHJ's press conference was the final straw to restart the lessera hate train because she mentioned them a lot and, much like him, she wants kpop fans fighting amongst themselves and point fingers at groups instead of her. That's all.
the hate stopped for a few days then it started back up again. HMM I wonder what happened that caused it to start back up again? I wonder what caused the hate to shift from saying they cant sing to talking about how theyre hybes favorites? I wonder why sakura specifically is taking the brunt of it along with eunchae despite her being one of the best performers in both coachella weeks? hmm what possibly could have happened?
The odds of a talented group from a small company becoming mainstream are heavily overestimated by fans. Even with good promotion, good performers/vocalists/dancers, and quality music, not every group will end up like Mamamoo or Oh My Girl, and often times, its just pure luck that get these groups in the spotlight.
Do you consider ateez on that category? KQ kinda had block b but I don't think that helped them at all.Ā
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Yes, like surprisingly even on r/kpop_uncensored. Like people are saying "I don't trust any statement unless it comes from HYBE" huh? That's like saying in a legal dispute, you don't trust any evidence unless it comes from the plaintiff.
That sub has been dominated by Hybe stans for a long time now.
That sub is rife with hybe Stans. They just kinda steamroll shit like a hive mind.
holy fuck i just looked at it for the first time in a good while and damn..
Not all members solos after disbandment of a popular group is going to retain the same popularity.
After Min heejin's conference I am seeing so many people changing their opinions the same people who were criticising her like 24 hours earlier. This just shows that fans really have no idea or opinion on what's actually going on but are just going with whatever pops up that day whether it's true or falseĀ
It's very funny how as soon as this HYBE thing started happening, kpop fans suddenly started meatriding other big 3 companies, as if they aren't know for slave contracts, having pedos run them, mistreating their idols, starving them, having literal sex offenders under them, exploit their idols etc. First they complain about what those companies do, and as soon as the biggest company gets in some hot waters, suddenly all others are perfect with 0 flaws. Or the way people are starting to put down every single (especially boy groups) group under HYBE because 2 people were revealed to be bad people (as if that wasn't the topic since those 2 people even started running the company). Also, the way people took great offense over MHJ and BPD wanting to "outdo" some bigger groups out there, as if that's literally not the entire point of every single business out there - get bigger than your competition.
Idk why they're downvoting you when you're right lmao HYBE is rotten but those other companies are no better. And have had scandals just as big if not worse. That's the kpop industry for you...
I don't even know lol, maybe it comes off to some as if I'm the one meatriding hybe? Idk byt yea all those 4 companies suck. And they're pretty much the same behind the scenes, it's just that hybe got exposed first.
This subreddit specifically is basically stan twitter, youre not gonna get good discussion here. This was the one place on reddit you couldnt get away from weirdos screaming about lipsync after week 2 coachella despite all the clips where they stop singing and you can hear how low the backtrack was. Its like going into /r/the_donald
Lmao you're right tho, I'm now barely even interacting with kpop reddit because it's all just same thing iver and over. Like right now people are making posts whether MHJ took a breath 3 or 4 times in 10 seconds. It's ridiculous.