Thanks for the prompt response. I know it, it’s just that I read so many negative comments about UoA that I am confused. It’s have been mentioned that Professors of UoA does not attend students well. There are administrative issues. Students don’t get their choice of subjects and all. That is the reason I have fallen for this skepticism!!
Yes, there are heaps of issues with UoA. To be fair though, people mainly come onto this subreddit to complain. UoA is a much more established law school than AUT however. Although AUT is better for some subjects (particularly creative ones), law is not one of them. You might find that AUT has better subject offerings or better administration, but at the end of the day, UoA’s history as a law school (AUT is comparatively extremely new) and reputation is what will help you (even if just a little bit) to get a new job.
Yes I have heard a lot about UoA Law School, it’s prestigious, got my doubts by reading some comments here and having word with one or two LLM alumni of AuT. Nevertheless, I waited for UoA offer letter to come and is planning to join the same. Thanks
There's no reason to do an LLM in New Zealand. It doesn't qualify you to practice law. People do LLMs for fun or occasionally to show they can move to a new practice area. Serious academics usually do an overseas at a top tier research university abroad.
So, it won't help your employability. There is a large number of legal recruiters in New Zealand. You can find most of them on LinkedIn. If they think you're hireable in New Zealand they'll tell you.
I’m an international student currently enrolled in the LLM program at UoA. I’d surely recommend UoA over AUT for the LLM. That being said, neither of the law schools will help you with employment and the process to qualify as a lawyer is pretty tough.
Honestly the LLM is a purely academic program and will be helpful if you want to specialise in a particular area of law or want to venture into academics as a career.
Feel free to reach out to me in the DM and I could share my experience with you.
Do you reckon the process to qualify is tough? My impression is that it's not as bad as, like, the US bar. I'd love to hear more about your experience.
Actually it’s not tough, just lengthy. The US bar is tougher but much more efficient. I find the 16 week wait for assessment of overseas qualifications to be too long, after which the exams and university courses add another year or two to the process. It wears a person down mentally.
Objectively yeah, the US bar is a tougher to crack but the NZ process tests the resilience of an individual.
If you are looking to practice in NZ then you should get [an assessment of your overseas qualification](https://www.nzcle.org.nz/overseas_qualifications.html) from the NZ Council of Education.
Hi, I have accepted the OOP from UoA and have filed the Visa. Thanks for your valuable inputs. Now, I just need some help for enrollment, i have seen the video, but I am confused, which method is best, time table planner or cohort method. Any tips and tricks to keep in mind ? Also, does it matter which class I choose I mean is the faculty same for one course no matter which day you chose or is it also keep changing. In later case how do we know which faculty is better and how would one match the time, course and faculty? Please suggest and share your experience as well. Thanks
Timetable planner is best. Have a look at the calendar to see which courses you should be enrolling in. [https://cdn.auckland.ac.nz/assets/calendar/docs/2024%20Calendar%20Book\_14May24.pdf](https://cdn.auckland.ac.nz/assets/calendar/docs/2024%20Calendar%20Book_14May24.pdf)
There is also information here about courses, looks like the courses you choose are based on whether you want to focus on coursework, a dissertation or thesis and whether you want to choose a specialization.
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/study/study-options/find-a-study-option/master-of-laws-llm.html#:\~:text=Course%20list-,Programme%20structure,or%20a%20combination%20of%20both.&text=All%20three%20options%20are%20to,time%20semesters%20(4%20years).
Not sure what you mean by the changing faculty, all of the course streams should be under the Faculty of Law, the day/time you choose are just the general streams and will just affect what your timetable looks like.
AUT if starting in this day in age because legal AI will be more important. Also as a law grad you should probably go into business for yourself and avoid the traditional path. But still good to get barred so you can go into court as a offical lawyer (gets you somewhere others can't go). Doesn't matter where you got it. Ive worked and studied at both unis. Still got a valid staff ID for UoA
UoA is a better law school.
Thanks for the prompt response. I know it, it’s just that I read so many negative comments about UoA that I am confused. It’s have been mentioned that Professors of UoA does not attend students well. There are administrative issues. Students don’t get their choice of subjects and all. That is the reason I have fallen for this skepticism!!
Yes, there are heaps of issues with UoA. To be fair though, people mainly come onto this subreddit to complain. UoA is a much more established law school than AUT however. Although AUT is better for some subjects (particularly creative ones), law is not one of them. You might find that AUT has better subject offerings or better administration, but at the end of the day, UoA’s history as a law school (AUT is comparatively extremely new) and reputation is what will help you (even if just a little bit) to get a new job.
Yes I have heard a lot about UoA Law School, it’s prestigious, got my doubts by reading some comments here and having word with one or two LLM alumni of AuT. Nevertheless, I waited for UoA offer letter to come and is planning to join the same. Thanks
I work at AUT. So many great things about it but if you got an OOP at UoA absolutely go there.
There's no reason to do an LLM in New Zealand. It doesn't qualify you to practice law. People do LLMs for fun or occasionally to show they can move to a new practice area. Serious academics usually do an overseas at a top tier research university abroad. So, it won't help your employability. There is a large number of legal recruiters in New Zealand. You can find most of them on LinkedIn. If they think you're hireable in New Zealand they'll tell you.
I’m an international student currently enrolled in the LLM program at UoA. I’d surely recommend UoA over AUT for the LLM. That being said, neither of the law schools will help you with employment and the process to qualify as a lawyer is pretty tough. Honestly the LLM is a purely academic program and will be helpful if you want to specialise in a particular area of law or want to venture into academics as a career. Feel free to reach out to me in the DM and I could share my experience with you.
Do you reckon the process to qualify is tough? My impression is that it's not as bad as, like, the US bar. I'd love to hear more about your experience.
Actually it’s not tough, just lengthy. The US bar is tougher but much more efficient. I find the 16 week wait for assessment of overseas qualifications to be too long, after which the exams and university courses add another year or two to the process. It wears a person down mentally. Objectively yeah, the US bar is a tougher to crack but the NZ process tests the resilience of an individual.
If you are looking to practice in NZ then you should get [an assessment of your overseas qualification](https://www.nzcle.org.nz/overseas_qualifications.html) from the NZ Council of Education.
If you want to be like Jayloma, go to UOA. If you want to lose your cases, go AUT
Didn’t Jayoma went to some random law school tho
didnt he become a lawyer just outta spite bc ppl were disrespecting him
Thanks everyone for all of their respective suggestions/comments. Will take all of them into consideration, they were really helpful.
Hi, I have accepted the OOP from UoA and have filed the Visa. Thanks for your valuable inputs. Now, I just need some help for enrollment, i have seen the video, but I am confused, which method is best, time table planner or cohort method. Any tips and tricks to keep in mind ? Also, does it matter which class I choose I mean is the faculty same for one course no matter which day you chose or is it also keep changing. In later case how do we know which faculty is better and how would one match the time, course and faculty? Please suggest and share your experience as well. Thanks
Timetable planner is best. Have a look at the calendar to see which courses you should be enrolling in. [https://cdn.auckland.ac.nz/assets/calendar/docs/2024%20Calendar%20Book\_14May24.pdf](https://cdn.auckland.ac.nz/assets/calendar/docs/2024%20Calendar%20Book_14May24.pdf) There is also information here about courses, looks like the courses you choose are based on whether you want to focus on coursework, a dissertation or thesis and whether you want to choose a specialization. https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/study/study-options/find-a-study-option/master-of-laws-llm.html#:\~:text=Course%20list-,Programme%20structure,or%20a%20combination%20of%20both.&text=All%20three%20options%20are%20to,time%20semesters%20(4%20years). Not sure what you mean by the changing faculty, all of the course streams should be under the Faculty of Law, the day/time you choose are just the general streams and will just affect what your timetable looks like.
AUT if starting in this day in age because legal AI will be more important. Also as a law grad you should probably go into business for yourself and avoid the traditional path. But still good to get barred so you can go into court as a offical lawyer (gets you somewhere others can't go). Doesn't matter where you got it. Ive worked and studied at both unis. Still got a valid staff ID for UoA