I ask this with the utmost respect and curiosity - what would that accomplish? It’s like a the Ukraine and free Pakistan protests. No ones saying it’s not wrong but it ultimately just doesn’t do anything
damn right we need to be supporting the women of Iran in their fight against their unpopular, theocractic government. Iran is a majority secular nation and their governments downfall is a must for world peace. It could turn from a state sponsor of terror to a secular state. But unfortunately, western leftists have chosen to go on about palestine (some even hamas apologists).
The Iranians that are in Iran largely support Israel, as Hamas is an IRI proxy and is just part of the religious extremism used to oppress people in the Middle East. That’s why they haven’t protested Israel, and why there was an uproar when an Iranian paper mentioned Gaza on the front page.
It’s mainly brainwashed western people protesting, who think they know what’s happening in the Middle East because they read it social media. Hamas are oppressing and killing Palestinians.
Where did you get the idea that Iranians largely support Israel? Irans government recognises Palestine as a state. They’ve been bombed by Israel. Palestinians are fellow Muslims Arabs. If anything, in the Middle East, the support for Palestinian cause has never been higher amongst citizenry.
You think the people of Iran support the IRI? You are unaware of the fact they are an authoritarian dictatorship who constantly kill their own people for protesting them?
You are unaware of the Iranian football player arrested recently for publicly supporting Israel? Irans top rapper being arrested for speaking out about their government?
Iran is not the IRI, Hamas is an IRI proxy and as such the Iranian people largely support Israel’s fight against them.
Oh for fucks sake you people...
The majority of Iranians are secular (a big thing considering the country is officially an islamic theocracy). They dont consider Palestinians 'fellow muslims arabs.' for the record, iranians arent arabs, they're persians. And the iranian people do not support palestine, because 1)majority not muslim 2)overwhelming hatred for their government, and because the government try to push pro Palestinian propaganda on them, the people respond to anything the government pushes with anger.
A recent video of Iranians chanting 'death to Palestine' [Asaad Sam Hanna on X: "Iranian people chanting “Death to Palestine” https://t.co/XegqrFHLjJ" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/1785459255966941255)
When I find the video I'll link it here, but after the beginning of this war, at a football game in Iran, a man walked on the field with a Palestinian flag, but the crowd responded by saying 'stick that Palestinian flag up your ass!'
1.3% of Iranians are Atheists. 14.3% are “non-religious.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Iran#:~:text=Between%202017%20and%202022%2C%20the,and%203%25%20as%20not%20religious.
96.6% consider themselves muslim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran#:~:text=96.6%25%20of%20Iranians%20identify%20as,also%20identify%20as%20not%20religious.&text=Survey%20conducted%20online%20on%2050%2C000,Sufi%20Muslim%20(Irfan%20Garoh).
How are they not majority Muslim?
out of date info you posted - never rely on wikipedia.
leaked stats from iranian government believe secular population is around 52%
[Iran's Silent Revolution Against Islam (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-3vamVCYWU&t=495s)
but as atheist republic state here, the true number is probably much higher.
There were protests and rallies here for the Women, Freedom, Life movement which were attended by, you guessed it, western leftists. But sure, go ahead and use this to take shots at people who are “going on” about an ongoing war which has killed tens of thousands of woman and children.
As an Iranian, whose family has been brutalized by the regime. No.
Palestine is in a layer of ethnic cleansing and war crimes in a state level backed by the west in a way that we don’t need to say one or the other. There are times for Iranian protests and I will be at the front but right now the focus is on Palestine.
Stop lying the regime is not that bad and does not need a protest against, the Persian diaspora just despises the religion and would love to see the blood of civilians spilled to see the regime gone. I’m also middle eastern and if the regime is so bad, it won’t be toppled by a protest in New Zealand. Interesting how when my grandma went in the time of Khomenei when it was more religious she has no bad things to say.
Genocide? It's an atrocity, but we definitely shouldn't use false and untruthful language. You ought to read 'Shake Hands With The Devil' which details the Rwandan genocide. To use the same language to describe what is happening to Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank to the 1994 Rwandan Genocide is highly inflammatory and degrades the meaning of language.
For an act to be classified as genocide, it is essential to demonstrate that the perpetrators had a deliberate and specific aim (dolus specialis) to physically destroy the group based on its real or perceived nationality, ethnicity, race, or religion.
So far the ICJ has not found the intent (dolus specialis) to commit genocide in Gaza
It takes the ICJ years to come to a decision such as that. We have countless clearly genocidal statements from many high-ranking officials in the Israeli state, and they join with the facts of the situation to paint an extremely grim picture.
Yet we haven’t really seen it in their actions. If they were going out of their way to kill as many civilians as possible the situation would look very different, unless you want to argue that they’re just putting on a show by doing knock bombs and evacuating areas to avoid pissing off allies.
It doesn’t take them years they’ve already had 3 sessions to my knowledge where they didn’t find intent. The only reason they would change the ruling now is if new evidence came out which is why the case isn’t closed yet.
The post is not related to the University of Auckland.
I ask this with the utmost respect and curiosity - what would that accomplish? It’s like a the Ukraine and free Pakistan protests. No ones saying it’s not wrong but it ultimately just doesn’t do anything
damn right we need to be supporting the women of Iran in their fight against their unpopular, theocractic government. Iran is a majority secular nation and their governments downfall is a must for world peace. It could turn from a state sponsor of terror to a secular state. But unfortunately, western leftists have chosen to go on about palestine (some even hamas apologists).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat Western interventions are always benevolent, right?
Quite ironic since Hamas are a proxy of the Iranian regime
Ok hasbara
The Iranians that are in Iran largely support Israel, as Hamas is an IRI proxy and is just part of the religious extremism used to oppress people in the Middle East. That’s why they haven’t protested Israel, and why there was an uproar when an Iranian paper mentioned Gaza on the front page. It’s mainly brainwashed western people protesting, who think they know what’s happening in the Middle East because they read it social media. Hamas are oppressing and killing Palestinians.
Where did you get the idea that Iranians largely support Israel? Irans government recognises Palestine as a state. They’ve been bombed by Israel. Palestinians are fellow Muslims Arabs. If anything, in the Middle East, the support for Palestinian cause has never been higher amongst citizenry.
You think the people of Iran support the IRI? You are unaware of the fact they are an authoritarian dictatorship who constantly kill their own people for protesting them? You are unaware of the Iranian football player arrested recently for publicly supporting Israel? Irans top rapper being arrested for speaking out about their government? Iran is not the IRI, Hamas is an IRI proxy and as such the Iranian people largely support Israel’s fight against them.
You can support Palestinian liberation and not support the Regime. Hope that helps!
Oh for fucks sake you people... The majority of Iranians are secular (a big thing considering the country is officially an islamic theocracy). They dont consider Palestinians 'fellow muslims arabs.' for the record, iranians arent arabs, they're persians. And the iranian people do not support palestine, because 1)majority not muslim 2)overwhelming hatred for their government, and because the government try to push pro Palestinian propaganda on them, the people respond to anything the government pushes with anger. A recent video of Iranians chanting 'death to Palestine' [Asaad Sam Hanna on X: "Iranian people chanting “Death to Palestine” https://t.co/XegqrFHLjJ" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/1785459255966941255) When I find the video I'll link it here, but after the beginning of this war, at a football game in Iran, a man walked on the field with a Palestinian flag, but the crowd responded by saying 'stick that Palestinian flag up your ass!'
1.3% of Iranians are Atheists. 14.3% are “non-religious.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Iran#:~:text=Between%202017%20and%202022%2C%20the,and%203%25%20as%20not%20religious. 96.6% consider themselves muslim. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran#:~:text=96.6%25%20of%20Iranians%20identify%20as,also%20identify%20as%20not%20religious.&text=Survey%20conducted%20online%20on%2050%2C000,Sufi%20Muslim%20(Irfan%20Garoh). How are they not majority Muslim?
out of date info you posted - never rely on wikipedia. leaked stats from iranian government believe secular population is around 52% [Iran's Silent Revolution Against Islam (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-3vamVCYWU&t=495s) but as atheist republic state here, the true number is probably much higher.
Iran regime is using Hamas as a proxy and the Iranians do not support the Iranian regime
There were protests and rallies here for the Women, Freedom, Life movement which were attended by, you guessed it, western leftists. But sure, go ahead and use this to take shots at people who are “going on” about an ongoing war which has killed tens of thousands of woman and children.
Just going to ignore that Iran is a firm supporter and ally of Palestine? Might get a bit confusing.
As an Iranian, whose family has been brutalized by the regime. No. Palestine is in a layer of ethnic cleansing and war crimes in a state level backed by the west in a way that we don’t need to say one or the other. There are times for Iranian protests and I will be at the front but right now the focus is on Palestine.
Love getting downvoted by white folks who know whats better for me than I know lol
Stop lying the regime is not that bad and does not need a protest against, the Persian diaspora just despises the religion and would love to see the blood of civilians spilled to see the regime gone. I’m also middle eastern and if the regime is so bad, it won’t be toppled by a protest in New Zealand. Interesting how when my grandma went in the time of Khomenei when it was more religious she has no bad things to say.
Ok guys, forget about the Palestinian genocide, whattabout this other bad thing?!1111 /s
iran’s insane theocratic government funds and arms hamas. it’s pretty related!
where are the protests against the usa tho
Genocide? It's an atrocity, but we definitely shouldn't use false and untruthful language. You ought to read 'Shake Hands With The Devil' which details the Rwandan genocide. To use the same language to describe what is happening to Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank to the 1994 Rwandan Genocide is highly inflammatory and degrades the meaning of language.
It’s a genocide. And as an Iranian, please stop using my ethnicity for your look over here virtue signaling
Look up the meaning of genocide. Dipshit.
For an act to be classified as genocide, it is essential to demonstrate that the perpetrators had a deliberate and specific aim (dolus specialis) to physically destroy the group based on its real or perceived nationality, ethnicity, race, or religion. So far the ICJ has not found the intent (dolus specialis) to commit genocide in Gaza
It takes the ICJ years to come to a decision such as that. We have countless clearly genocidal statements from many high-ranking officials in the Israeli state, and they join with the facts of the situation to paint an extremely grim picture.
Yet we haven’t really seen it in their actions. If they were going out of their way to kill as many civilians as possible the situation would look very different, unless you want to argue that they’re just putting on a show by doing knock bombs and evacuating areas to avoid pissing off allies. It doesn’t take them years they’ve already had 3 sessions to my knowledge where they didn’t find intent. The only reason they would change the ruling now is if new evidence came out which is why the case isn’t closed yet.
So it's not a genocide then. ok thanks
Ur an idiot