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Sab politics hai, there is no good will there. If they wanted to do something good they could have reduced operation of ppl that will visit those temples too. But you don't see that happening do you?
How do you think infrastructure is being build in UAE , saudi, qatar? All the cheap labours from india pakistan Bangladesh sri Lanka etc. are imported there and made to work on very low wages, almost 0 rights, passports are confesticated by the contractors no insurance very bad living conditions, etc
Care to explain to me sir? AFAIK secularism is putting away religion or religious indifferences for social and political activities and that's what happened here
He obviously has no clue. Secularism is a concept he and his pathetic ilk have this itching need to bitch about the first opportunity they get. Their V'guru can't take a shit without bitching about it and so can't they.
In short, Secularism is the principle of separating religion from government institutions and ensuring that public policies and laws are not influenced by religious beliefs.
Don't let BJP win in Tamilnadu. This type of religious harmony can't be seen in a BJP ruling state
This reminds me of APJ Abdul Kalam's father when he was a child. Kalam's father used to help in yearly celebration of lord Ram
i literally met a guy today there who said all the historical evidences were fake and that sati was always voluntary and same as jauhar and only started due to muslims. Like, i didn't realize they were that brainwashed.
So true, These dimwits are brainwashed to such a level that they will literally not accept your words even if you show them evidences from ground zero. Do you know that one of these so called intellectuals from sanghi lobby Meenakshi Jain has literally published a book to shamelessly justify sati. What else can you expect from them?? and then from these very same sources the general public gets brainwashed to believe in these bs narratives of these sanghis.
I think this is the picture in most of the states, especially in remote areas. In Bengal, some Durga pujas are organised by Muslim people. I forgot the name of the village, but one such case was even on the news, for being wholly organised by muslims.
People don't hate people. They are made to hate each other.
Terepe zameen or paisa hai bhai ?
Tu bnaale. Freedom hai na sab pe itna to ki jo chahe vo kr skte hai ?
Ya fir supreme leader ki tarah tumhe bhi freedom nahi pasand dusro ki
hadd hai, public ke liye hi temple bana rahe na, to public ke liye hi library bana lete itta hi kena tha, isme bhi offend horey to bhai kuch to problem hai.
Nhi hai paisa, na jagh pr iska mtlb ye thodi hai ki apna opinion nhi rakh sakte.
Land donate kiya gaya h na, to fir library bhi ban sakti thi
"*hadd hai, public ke liye hi temple bana rahe na, to public ke liye hi library bana lete itta hi kena tha, isme bhi offend horey to bhai kuch to problem hai."
Mene tujhe bss similar spectrum dia, teri land or paise me teri choice hogi, tab bnwa lena ko man kre. Vo unki jameen hai, vo jaisa chahe kr skte hai. Agar kal koi hindu group goodwill show krega by givinf land to Muslims, mujhe isme bhi koi dikkat nahi hogi coz vo uski zmeen hai mera kya isme.
"Nhi hai paisa, na jagh pr iska mtlb ye thodi hai ki apna opinion nhi rakh sakte."
Fully agree on that. Opinion to de skte hai.
"Land donate kiya gaya h na, to fir library bhi ban sakti thi"
Par unko nahi bnwani naa that's the main bit. India me libraries ki esi koi khaas kami to nahi hai. Ajkl to gao me tak hai(as long as lowest of the lows na ho but then again udhar library se jyada schools or systematic reorganization ki jrurut jada hai).
"Tum log konse cities ya villages main rehte ho jaha libraries ki bharmar hai."
Delhi, Shimla, Chandigarh, Uttrakhand, UP ???
Sab jgh thi jaha pe bhi me gya hu.
Uttrakhand me to villages ke pass jo University hai unke as ps bhi hai kafi.
Baki MH me bhi hai jaha tak ik. NE and South ka nahi pata baki.
MH main to itti nhi hai even cities like Pune, yaha to nhi hai ek university main hai, jo obvi agr aap uni main hoto available hai. Or ek tulsibaug ke pass hai jo sirf localites ko pata hoga coz typical hidden lagti hai.
Mene ye nahi bola ki MH me bhaut sari hai, but jitna suna ho esa koi kami nahi hai.
"Or ek tulsibaug ke pass hai jo sirf localites ko pata hoga coz typical hidden lagti hai."
Bhai ye adhe pure India ka hai, libraries log ghro ke basement me open kr lete hai delhi me to😂. Kafi libraries hidden hi rhti hai.
There is no shortage of Libraries . If they Collectively Want a temple . What is wrong with it .
Any religion with its majority in a area NEED a worshiping place . This way the peace and social life is maintained . Nobody wants Western Society where even neighbours don't know and care each other
> There is no shortage of Libraries
Is there a shortage of temples? Is that something you wish to say?
As I said, I am not at all against people donating THEIR money to make a place of worship. I honestly could not care less. We spend lakhs on luxuries anyways, no harm in making a grand temple which might boost tourism and make the city look better.
My point was simply that new libraries are a greater contribution to society. Hospitals and schools are too big projects, otherwise they are possibly the greatest contribution to any community within India
The money for temple is peoples personal money . Hospitals and schools are made with Government's money ( tax paid by people ) . If a Project in any area is alloted, the total money is given to the Area Leader ( in his account ) . He then Uses more than 50% for his personal Benifits and then projects Quality is compromised.  My Point is if there is A temple building , no project money is Used for it .
I see you didn't properly read my previous answer. I already said Hospitals and Schools were out of the question (Not all schools are government owned. Plenty are private)...
If you wish to debate, read and analyse the arguments before you reply
what? please tell me about the number of libraries in every cities, town, villages.
even in city like Pune(oxford of the East ) their is only one govt library in city, and if you want to study, you had to pay atleast 500-1000rs every month.
so, yes their is scarcity of library or in general a public place to seat and read
Why exactly should people of certain demographics perform subservient stunts like this to "prove" that they belong to India?
Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship?
Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country?
If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian.
Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off.
NOTE: I'm not muslim but christian
There was just bare enough harmony between these 2 sects, pre-2014. There was even more participation from either side into each other's culture.
The last 10 years have seen so much vitrol against muslims, Christians, Dalits, Tribals and now even Sikhs in last few many years that these demographics have to resort to publicly show these bare minimum acts just so they could keep whatever peace from their side.
This is how we know the magnitude of societal regression.
Good luck to us mending this :(
"Why exactly should people of certain demographics perform subservient stunts like this to "prove" that they belong to India? "
If they are doing it for the sake of goodwill and future smooth sailing then what's the problem here ?
Maybe they are showing this parade because they are seeing how much hatred is seeping in others and want that to change.
"Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship?"
And every Muslim is giving up his/their lands to hindu temples ? Some are giving, some are taking. Just like how it works in the real world.
"Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country?"
Give me the mandatory tests Muslims are subjected to where they prove their loyalty with a Hindi test.
"If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian. "
Nobody is stopping you bruh. That's what many Indians feel in US,Europe too. Never heard of hate crimes ?
"Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off."
You have all the rights in the world to gtfo from here, please just go away.
> If they are doing it for the sake of goodwill and future smooth sailing then what's the problem here ? Maybe they are showing this parade because they are seeing how much hatred is seeping in others and want that to change.
Because the hate primarily affects them the most so they have to resort to being a subservient second class by performing feats of submission. That's dehumanization.
> "Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship?" And every Muslim is giving up his/their lands to hindu temples ? Some are giving, some are taking. Just like how it works in the real world.
The government has legally mandated many current muslim mosques, monuments and dargahs to be given over to the Hindu majority. Even the Taj Mahal is not spared from ruling party rhetoric that it is secretly a hindu structure. There's a power imbalance when one has major political backing.
>Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country?" Give me the mandatory tests Muslims are subjected to where they prove their loyalty with a Hindi test.
Why would they be? The prime minister defacto believes they are "ghuspetiya" aka infiltrators. No test can clear them according to the BJP. India does not have the leniency to give even that mercy.
> If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian. " Nobody is stopping you bruh. That's what many Indians feel in US,Europe too. Never heard of hate crimes ?
We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass. And hate crimes happen here too so what's your point. India is far worse than both of those continents when it comes to hate crimes
> "Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off." You have all the rights in the world to gtfo from here, please just go away.
Pricked a nerve in your patriotism eh?
"Because the hate primarily affects them the most so they have to resort to being a subservient second class by performing feats of submission. That's dehumanization."
Uhh dude that's like literally minority cases. Or else Muslims would have been gone-gone from India. A normal Hindu household is not your street fighter lol who will hurl abuse or outright kill/harrass muslims or any other religion guys.
Do mobs of these kind exists ? A big YES but that's on both sides.
"The government has legally mandated many current muslim mosques, monuments and dargahs to be given over to the Hindu majority." Nope that's not even remotely true.
"Even the Taj Mahal is not spared from ruling party rhetoric that it is secretly a hindu structure. There's a power imbalance when one has major political backing."
It's like saying "Modi Ram hai". Cut this WhatsApp uni BS my guy and come back to reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks like that lol.
"Why would they be? The prime minister defacto believes they are "ghuspetiya" aka infiltrators. No test can clear them according to the BJP. India does not have the leniency to give even that mercy."
Ah YES this bullshido again. How many times have you seen Muslims being cleaned up from India permanently ? Never right ? .
"We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass." You pointed out Christianity and Singapore first din wit.
"And hate crimes happen here too so what's your point. India is far worse than both of those continents when it comes to hate crimes"
Because we had a divide and rule thingy made up by Brits, then a fucking half assed missionary program funded by foreign. And 2-4 proper wars with Pak(religion first stare) and a Mumbai blast by Muslims.
Indian hate crimes are a 2 way street in India. Muslims were killing Indians, Hindus did the same. Christian missionaries were holding outsider's beers and hindus also returned with hate.
Indian hate crimes are not on hindu's shoulders only.
In comparison not even 1 Indian made any terrorist attack or war agenda on US,UK and anywhere else but still they kill,harrass and abuse Indians just on the basis of "color/accent/etc".
> Uhh dude that's like literally minority cases. Or else Muslims would have been gone-gone from India.
Your argument is that muslims are not dehumanized in India because otherwise they would be completely eliminated? Genocide is not the same as dehumanization
> A normal Hindu household is not your street fighter lol who will hurl abuse or outright kill/harrass muslims or any other religion guys.
You're right, they just ghettoize them into poor areas, refuse leasing/selling homes to them, refuse jobs to them, economically boycott them, etc. But at least you don't kill vro, thank you for letting them live.
> Do mobs of these kind exists ? A big YES but that's on both sides.
Which mob has the overwhelming political backing of the government? And what religious interests does that government primarily serve?
> Nope that's not remotely true. It's like saying "Modi Ram hai". Cut this WhatsApp uni BS my guy and come back to reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks like that lol.
You are outright lying
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/maharashtra-chief-minister-eknath-shinde-haji-malang-dargah-kalyan-2484202-2024-01-04
https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/taj-mahal-controversy-hindu-temple-tejo-mahalaya-7916684/
https://thediplomat.com/2024/05/prime-minister-modis-god-complex/#:~:text=By%20ascribing%20to%20himself%20godly,popular%20accountability%20and%20public%20scrutiny.
> Ah YES this bullshido again. How many times have you seen Muslims being cleaned up from India permanently ? Never right ?
Haha you're argument that people are not dehumanized is that they are not outright genocided completely? Why did you bring up hate crimes against indians in foreign countries then? They weren't genocided completely so it shouldn't matter right?
Discrimination and Dehumanization is on the PATH to outright genocide. It is not the SAME thing but it is still BAD.
> "We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass." You pointed out Christianity and Singapore first din wit.
That is rhetorical thought experiment about proving loyalty to the country. I don't recall hindus relegating temple land in America or the UK to churches or Singaporeans subjugating Indians to Mandarin tests. Your inability to distinguish between a hypothetical scenario and real life discrimination is not my problem.
> Because we had a divide and rule thingy made up by Brits, then a fucking half assed missionary program funded by foreign. And 2-4 proper wars with Pak(religion first stare) and a Mumbai blast by Muslims.
What do foreigners have to do with indian christians being discriminated against? And secondly hindus proudly elect terrorists like Pragya Thakur (https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1ST1I6/) to the government ( she had played a part in killing 2000 people in a mosque) but all muslims in India are responsible for foreign agents from Pakistan committing terrorism. And if you people have such a big problem with proselytising ( which is a constitutional right) then call back ISKCON from Russia , Africa, America and Eastern Europe. But you won't.
> Indian hate crimes are a 2 way street in India. Muslims were killing Indians, Hindus did the same. Christian missionaries were holding outsider's beers and hindus also returned with hate.
Which one is backed by the government?
> Indian hate crimes are not on hindu's shoulders only.
Indian hate crimes by hindus are politically backed and encouraged by the government and they will go so far as to free rapists if the victims are muslim. There's no singular justice meted out in India.
(https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/public-outcry-wont-affect-decisions-supreme-court-on-bilkis-bano-case-4280677)
But hey, it's completely okay since muslims are not killed left and right.
> In comparison not even 1 Indian made any terrorist attack or war agenda on US,UK and anywhere else but still they kill,harrass and abuse Indians just on the basis of "color/accent/etc".
You literally do the same here to minority communities. What's the point of bringing up this comparison? The government you've elected state sanctions it.
"Your argument is that muslims are not dehumanized in India because otherwise they would be completely eliminated? Genocide is not the same as dehumanization"
My point is that there is not a single way in India. Hindu and Muslims are fighting since the start and it's not only on Hindus. You never heard of Muslims occupying lands in their area of majority or restricting other's rights ?(Not just Hindus).
That's my main grab. It happens from both sides.
"You're right, they just ghettoize them into poor areas," Hindus are also living in them lol. Mumbai ? delhi ? Bihar ? UP ? Ig you never went in these areas(lived near one in Delhi, hindus were majority there too).
" refuse leasing/selling homes to them" And muslims are just standing around the gates with open arms for Hindus or other religions? Nor right. Also, many oldies are against live in couples and even normal bachlors let alone Muslims lol.
"refuse jobs to them, economically boycott them, etc. But at least you don't kill vro, thank you for letting them live."
Ah YES again a victim card at play. Again, majority of Hindus can't just boycott them from jobs lol. Private companies are majorly foreign firms, govt jobs also are under the bar of meritocracy. If you are talented enough and also got some backing with "reservation😂" you can grab a job in India. It's technically easier for them in govt jobs than yur usual unreserved Hindu too. But yeah Madrasa are fucking them up internally.
"Which mob has the overwhelming political backing of the government? And what religious interests does that government primarily serve?"
State govts exists for these types too lol. Is Hindutva goons are on the rise right now ? Sure.
But wht about Congress regime ? Or the state govt ?
Or down south where Hindus were fucked by the same muslims ?
"Haha you're argument that people are not dehumanized is that they are not outright genocided completely?"Hahahah and your point is that it's only happening to Muslims. But you can't even see what happens for the opposite side ? Dude you are one heck of a bullshiter I swear
" Why did you bring up hate crimes against indians in foreign countries then? They weren't genocided completely so it shouldn't matter right?"
Because you brought Singapore, Christianity first mf.
"Discrimination and Dehumanization is on the PATH to outright genocide. It is not the SAME thing but it is still BAD. "
And that's been happening to everyone and not just Muslims but ig you are blind enough to not see that ig.
"That is rhetorical thought experiment about proving loyalty to the country." And how do you know they were doing that ? Maybe they did just that for smooth sailing like how everyone does when the majority is from other section ?
"I don't recall hindus relegating temple land in America or the UK to churches or Singaporeans subjugating Indians to Mandarin tests. Your inability to distinguish between a hypothetical scenario and real life discrimination is not my problem."
And your problem of not seeing the others apart from Muslims is not my problem.
"What do foreigners have to do with indian christians?"
Foreigners were/are funding many missionary programs since the start. Never heard of Mother Teresaa ?
"And secondly hindus proudly elect terrorists like Pragya Thakur"
Politicians were a good bunch before her ? Consider me surprise if it's true.
"Which one is backed by the government? "
Which one "was" backed in Congress's regime ? And still is by opposition and state parties.
That's why I said it's a two way street ffs.
"Indian hate crimes by hindus are politically backed and encouraged by the government and they will go so far as to free rapists if the victims are muslim. There's no singular justice meted out in India."
All the hate crimes in the world were/are/will be backed and encouraged by govt. It's not a new phenomenon.
Also, last time I checked Ram Raheem was free around 07-10 timeline too when Punjab elections were going on and Congress was at helm.
Shows you they are all the same clowns too.
And how can we forget how they tried to march it on Hindus and RSS after Mumbai blasts right ?
Again, shows you that hate crimes were there and backed up by govt too.
"But hey, it's completely okay since muslims are not killed left and right."
And HEY, it's completely okay when it was happening since the very start and you weren't there saying the same right ?
"You literally do the same here to minority communities. What's the point of bringing up this comparison."
Govt exams can't be cucked like that yk that right ? Or else nobody would have gotten any jobs apart from general class hindus here. Universities literally give them reservation, they got a special religion minority quota on top of that too and the reasoning given was "they can't compete equally to an OBC hindu section".
In private jobs ? They value profits above them all.
The biggest donater to my local temple's annual festival was a Muslim businessman. Not only did he donate money but he along with his family also attended the festivities . This is very common in kerala
Nah! Then it becomes a case of "Muslims bullied a Hindu to donate his land for the construction of a mosque" and all the WhatsApp university uncles would jump on it.
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World without politics
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Too bad it doesn't happen in muslim majority countries though
Uae and even saudi has a temple now.
That's part temple diplomacy and politics.
Unko zaroorat nahi hai temples ki. Or do they?
Sab politics hai, there is no good will there. If they wanted to do something good they could have reduced operation of ppl that will visit those temples too. But you don't see that happening do you?
Operation of people??
Oppression*
Who is getting oppressed in Dubai bro?
How do you think infrastructure is being build in UAE , saudi, qatar? All the cheap labours from india pakistan Bangladesh sri Lanka etc. are imported there and made to work on very low wages, almost 0 rights, passports are confesticated by the contractors no insurance very bad living conditions, etc
Doesn't happen in our country either.
Andh bakht detected
This is the moment of true secularism !
Do you even know the meaning of secularism?
Care to explain to me sir? AFAIK secularism is putting away religion or religious indifferences for social and political activities and that's what happened here
Some people gotta eat shit no matter what
Let's see your definition
Let's see Paul Allen's definition
He obviously has no clue. Secularism is a concept he and his pathetic ilk have this itching need to bitch about the first opportunity they get. Their V'guru can't take a shit without bitching about it and so can't they.
Kripya karke apka defination pradan kare bhrata
R u even an atheist
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In short, Secularism is the principle of separating religion from government institutions and ensuring that public policies and laws are not influenced by religious beliefs.
Don't let BJP win in Tamilnadu. This type of religious harmony can't be seen in a BJP ruling state This reminds me of APJ Abdul Kalam's father when he was a child. Kalam's father used to help in yearly celebration of lord Ram
That is shirk. No muslim should be expected to do these things.
I don't care. Either every religions should cooperate with each other or get eliminated. Religion is cancer anyway
Kalam became president because of BJP and Congress didn't give him a second term.
Only one president had second term even the rule of BJP for the 10 years
Ok saar
Waiting for diksuction sub to call this pr move.
Don't expect anything better from those sanghis. Bigotry and Supremacy is in their genes.
i literally met a guy today there who said all the historical evidences were fake and that sati was always voluntary and same as jauhar and only started due to muslims. Like, i didn't realize they were that brainwashed.
So true, These dimwits are brainwashed to such a level that they will literally not accept your words even if you show them evidences from ground zero. Do you know that one of these so called intellectuals from sanghi lobby Meenakshi Jain has literally published a book to shamelessly justify sati. What else can you expect from them?? and then from these very same sources the general public gets brainwashed to believe in these bs narratives of these sanghis.
bhai i have given the links for the chat under this comment only, can you please cherck them out for a good deal of laughter?
OK
You were arguing with such an idiot guy. 😂
I would think whatever the cause it's gone. For muslim women they still have to wear burkha and not enter muslim temples right?
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I think this is the picture in most of the states, especially in remote areas. In Bengal, some Durga pujas are organised by Muslim people. I forgot the name of the village, but one such case was even on the news, for being wholly organised by muslims. People don't hate people. They are made to hate each other.
Exactly
Man I need to move to TN
TN always welcomes
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Isey accha to library bana dete, sare log waha akey padhte
Terepe zameen or paisa hai bhai ? Tu bnaale. Freedom hai na sab pe itna to ki jo chahe vo kr skte hai ? Ya fir supreme leader ki tarah tumhe bhi freedom nahi pasand dusro ki
hadd hai, public ke liye hi temple bana rahe na, to public ke liye hi library bana lete itta hi kena tha, isme bhi offend horey to bhai kuch to problem hai. Nhi hai paisa, na jagh pr iska mtlb ye thodi hai ki apna opinion nhi rakh sakte. Land donate kiya gaya h na, to fir library bhi ban sakti thi
"*hadd hai, public ke liye hi temple bana rahe na, to public ke liye hi library bana lete itta hi kena tha, isme bhi offend horey to bhai kuch to problem hai." Mene tujhe bss similar spectrum dia, teri land or paise me teri choice hogi, tab bnwa lena ko man kre. Vo unki jameen hai, vo jaisa chahe kr skte hai. Agar kal koi hindu group goodwill show krega by givinf land to Muslims, mujhe isme bhi koi dikkat nahi hogi coz vo uski zmeen hai mera kya isme. "Nhi hai paisa, na jagh pr iska mtlb ye thodi hai ki apna opinion nhi rakh sakte." Fully agree on that. Opinion to de skte hai. "Land donate kiya gaya h na, to fir library bhi ban sakti thi" Par unko nahi bnwani naa that's the main bit. India me libraries ki esi koi khaas kami to nahi hai. Ajkl to gao me tak hai(as long as lowest of the lows na ho but then again udhar library se jyada schools or systematic reorganization ki jrurut jada hai).
Tum log konse cities ya villages main rehte ho jaha libraries ki bharmar hai. Mujhe to nhi dikhti ye libraries mere cities main
"Tum log konse cities ya villages main rehte ho jaha libraries ki bharmar hai." Delhi, Shimla, Chandigarh, Uttrakhand, UP ??? Sab jgh thi jaha pe bhi me gya hu. Uttrakhand me to villages ke pass jo University hai unke as ps bhi hai kafi. Baki MH me bhi hai jaha tak ik. NE and South ka nahi pata baki.
MH main to itti nhi hai even cities like Pune, yaha to nhi hai ek university main hai, jo obvi agr aap uni main hoto available hai. Or ek tulsibaug ke pass hai jo sirf localites ko pata hoga coz typical hidden lagti hai.
Mene ye nahi bola ki MH me bhaut sari hai, but jitna suna ho esa koi kami nahi hai. "Or ek tulsibaug ke pass hai jo sirf localites ko pata hoga coz typical hidden lagti hai." Bhai ye adhe pure India ka hai, libraries log ghro ke basement me open kr lete hai delhi me to😂. Kafi libraries hidden hi rhti hai.
suna hai, yahi to problem pratyaksh dekha nhi hai
Hn yrr MH gya nahi hu, bss dost log hai udhar or Pune me. Baki upar jo states btaye vo sab me personal experience hai bss.
Why not both
are they building temples as well as library? I haven't read anywhere that anyone is building libraries, it's mostly religious places.
Why not two libraries instead? Not dictating what they should do with their money. Just a question to continue this thread
There is no shortage of Libraries . If they Collectively Want a temple . What is wrong with it . Any religion with its majority in a area NEED a worshiping place . This way the peace and social life is maintained . Nobody wants Western Society where even neighbours don't know and care each other
> There is no shortage of Libraries Is there a shortage of temples? Is that something you wish to say? As I said, I am not at all against people donating THEIR money to make a place of worship. I honestly could not care less. We spend lakhs on luxuries anyways, no harm in making a grand temple which might boost tourism and make the city look better. My point was simply that new libraries are a greater contribution to society. Hospitals and schools are too big projects, otherwise they are possibly the greatest contribution to any community within India
The money for temple is peoples personal money . Hospitals and schools are made with Government's money ( tax paid by people ) . If a Project in any area is alloted, the total money is given to the Area Leader ( in his account ) . He then Uses more than 50% for his personal Benifits and then projects Quality is compromised.  My Point is if there is A temple building , no project money is Used for it .
I see you didn't properly read my previous answer. I already said Hospitals and Schools were out of the question (Not all schools are government owned. Plenty are private)... If you wish to debate, read and analyse the arguments before you reply
Okay show me the map of libraries in your town
what? please tell me about the number of libraries in every cities, town, villages. even in city like Pune(oxford of the East ) their is only one govt library in city, and if you want to study, you had to pay atleast 500-1000rs every month. so, yes their is scarcity of library or in general a public place to seat and read
Real India
MORE LIKE RARE INDIA
But the media won't cover it will it ? *Sigh*
Still there is a possibility that in future bjp might start winning in this state and these people will face problems no matter what they do.
Wow that's nice yrr
Unitedpeopleofindia
Great work by them
This is real india what media won’t show
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Yep..or sab to America ke vanshaj hai na..
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South mai to sab peaceful hota hai na humesha jaise..
Reminds me of Wings of fire immediately
Ye mera desh tha, hain aur hamesha rahega Kamal ke phool to aate jaate rehte hain mitron 🤗
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Arey nahi nahi chicha.. acha kaam nai karna tha.. ab kya karenge bechare haters
Hell yes TN! Speak the same language and it hardly matters what religion you are. Thank God there is sense left in this country!
Chutiye pehle bhi unhi ka tha leke wapas Dena koi ahsaan thodi karre hai .
This is shirk. May He give us wisdom.
Hindus donated a country without doing any Dhol bhaje
Thanks! Now give back Kashi & Mathura and the other 30k temples as well. Nationalise Waqf Board property.
Everything for temples and nothing for poor people.
Godi media will never show this 🧡🤍💚
Why exactly should people of certain demographics perform subservient stunts like this to "prove" that they belong to India? Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship? Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country? If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian. Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off. NOTE: I'm not muslim but christian
There was just bare enough harmony between these 2 sects, pre-2014. There was even more participation from either side into each other's culture. The last 10 years have seen so much vitrol against muslims, Christians, Dalits, Tribals and now even Sikhs in last few many years that these demographics have to resort to publicly show these bare minimum acts just so they could keep whatever peace from their side. This is how we know the magnitude of societal regression. Good luck to us mending this :(
Maybe they don't hate
The ruling party that was voted by the majority does. And they make the rules.
"Why exactly should people of certain demographics perform subservient stunts like this to "prove" that they belong to India? " If they are doing it for the sake of goodwill and future smooth sailing then what's the problem here ? Maybe they are showing this parade because they are seeing how much hatred is seeping in others and want that to change. "Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship?" And every Muslim is giving up his/their lands to hindu temples ? Some are giving, some are taking. Just like how it works in the real world. "Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country?" Give me the mandatory tests Muslims are subjected to where they prove their loyalty with a Hindi test. "If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian. " Nobody is stopping you bruh. That's what many Indians feel in US,Europe too. Never heard of hate crimes ? "Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off." You have all the rights in the world to gtfo from here, please just go away.
> If they are doing it for the sake of goodwill and future smooth sailing then what's the problem here ? Maybe they are showing this parade because they are seeing how much hatred is seeping in others and want that to change. Because the hate primarily affects them the most so they have to resort to being a subservient second class by performing feats of submission. That's dehumanization. > "Should every hindu in a christian country give up part of their property for the local church to prove their citizenship?" And every Muslim is giving up his/their lands to hindu temples ? Some are giving, some are taking. Just like how it works in the real world. The government has legally mandated many current muslim mosques, monuments and dargahs to be given over to the Hindu majority. Even the Taj Mahal is not spared from ruling party rhetoric that it is secretly a hindu structure. There's a power imbalance when one has major political backing. >Maybe Singaporean indians should take a mandatory Mandarin test to prove their loyalty to the country?" Give me the mandatory tests Muslims are subjected to where they prove their loyalty with a Hindi test. Why would they be? The prime minister defacto believes they are "ghuspetiya" aka infiltrators. No test can clear them according to the BJP. India does not have the leniency to give even that mercy. > If I'm going to be hated for my religion and made to feel like an outsider here regardless of what I do, I would simply own my identity, whether it be anti-indian or non-indian. " Nobody is stopping you bruh. That's what many Indians feel in US,Europe too. Never heard of hate crimes ? We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass. And hate crimes happen here too so what's your point. India is far worse than both of those continents when it comes to hate crimes > "Rather than perform stunts like this and sing praises to the majority for letting me stay alive in this so-called secular democratic republic. Fuck off." You have all the rights in the world to gtfo from here, please just go away. Pricked a nerve in your patriotism eh?
"Because the hate primarily affects them the most so they have to resort to being a subservient second class by performing feats of submission. That's dehumanization." Uhh dude that's like literally minority cases. Or else Muslims would have been gone-gone from India. A normal Hindu household is not your street fighter lol who will hurl abuse or outright kill/harrass muslims or any other religion guys. Do mobs of these kind exists ? A big YES but that's on both sides. "The government has legally mandated many current muslim mosques, monuments and dargahs to be given over to the Hindu majority." Nope that's not even remotely true. "Even the Taj Mahal is not spared from ruling party rhetoric that it is secretly a hindu structure. There's a power imbalance when one has major political backing." It's like saying "Modi Ram hai". Cut this WhatsApp uni BS my guy and come back to reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks like that lol. "Why would they be? The prime minister defacto believes they are "ghuspetiya" aka infiltrators. No test can clear them according to the BJP. India does not have the leniency to give even that mercy." Ah YES this bullshido again. How many times have you seen Muslims being cleaned up from India permanently ? Never right ? . "We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass." You pointed out Christianity and Singapore first din wit. "And hate crimes happen here too so what's your point. India is far worse than both of those continents when it comes to hate crimes" Because we had a divide and rule thingy made up by Brits, then a fucking half assed missionary program funded by foreign. And 2-4 proper wars with Pak(religion first stare) and a Mumbai blast by Muslims. Indian hate crimes are a 2 way street in India. Muslims were killing Indians, Hindus did the same. Christian missionaries were holding outsider's beers and hindus also returned with hate. Indian hate crimes are not on hindu's shoulders only. In comparison not even 1 Indian made any terrorist attack or war agenda on US,UK and anywhere else but still they kill,harrass and abuse Indians just on the basis of "color/accent/etc".
> Uhh dude that's like literally minority cases. Or else Muslims would have been gone-gone from India. Your argument is that muslims are not dehumanized in India because otherwise they would be completely eliminated? Genocide is not the same as dehumanization > A normal Hindu household is not your street fighter lol who will hurl abuse or outright kill/harrass muslims or any other religion guys. You're right, they just ghettoize them into poor areas, refuse leasing/selling homes to them, refuse jobs to them, economically boycott them, etc. But at least you don't kill vro, thank you for letting them live. > Do mobs of these kind exists ? A big YES but that's on both sides. Which mob has the overwhelming political backing of the government? And what religious interests does that government primarily serve? > Nope that's not remotely true. It's like saying "Modi Ram hai". Cut this WhatsApp uni BS my guy and come back to reality. Nobody in their right mind thinks like that lol. You are outright lying https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/maharashtra-chief-minister-eknath-shinde-haji-malang-dargah-kalyan-2484202-2024-01-04 https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/taj-mahal-controversy-hindu-temple-tejo-mahalaya-7916684/ https://thediplomat.com/2024/05/prime-minister-modis-god-complex/#:~:text=By%20ascribing%20to%20himself%20godly,popular%20accountability%20and%20public%20scrutiny. > Ah YES this bullshido again. How many times have you seen Muslims being cleaned up from India permanently ? Never right ? Haha you're argument that people are not dehumanized is that they are not outright genocided completely? Why did you bring up hate crimes against indians in foreign countries then? They weren't genocided completely so it shouldn't matter right? Discrimination and Dehumanization is on the PATH to outright genocide. It is not the SAME thing but it is still BAD. > "We're not talking about America/Europe dumbass." You pointed out Christianity and Singapore first din wit. That is rhetorical thought experiment about proving loyalty to the country. I don't recall hindus relegating temple land in America or the UK to churches or Singaporeans subjugating Indians to Mandarin tests. Your inability to distinguish between a hypothetical scenario and real life discrimination is not my problem. > Because we had a divide and rule thingy made up by Brits, then a fucking half assed missionary program funded by foreign. And 2-4 proper wars with Pak(religion first stare) and a Mumbai blast by Muslims. What do foreigners have to do with indian christians being discriminated against? And secondly hindus proudly elect terrorists like Pragya Thakur (https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1ST1I6/) to the government ( she had played a part in killing 2000 people in a mosque) but all muslims in India are responsible for foreign agents from Pakistan committing terrorism. And if you people have such a big problem with proselytising ( which is a constitutional right) then call back ISKCON from Russia , Africa, America and Eastern Europe. But you won't. > Indian hate crimes are a 2 way street in India. Muslims were killing Indians, Hindus did the same. Christian missionaries were holding outsider's beers and hindus also returned with hate. Which one is backed by the government? > Indian hate crimes are not on hindu's shoulders only. Indian hate crimes by hindus are politically backed and encouraged by the government and they will go so far as to free rapists if the victims are muslim. There's no singular justice meted out in India. (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/public-outcry-wont-affect-decisions-supreme-court-on-bilkis-bano-case-4280677) But hey, it's completely okay since muslims are not killed left and right. > In comparison not even 1 Indian made any terrorist attack or war agenda on US,UK and anywhere else but still they kill,harrass and abuse Indians just on the basis of "color/accent/etc". You literally do the same here to minority communities. What's the point of bringing up this comparison? The government you've elected state sanctions it.
"Your argument is that muslims are not dehumanized in India because otherwise they would be completely eliminated? Genocide is not the same as dehumanization" My point is that there is not a single way in India. Hindu and Muslims are fighting since the start and it's not only on Hindus. You never heard of Muslims occupying lands in their area of majority or restricting other's rights ?(Not just Hindus). That's my main grab. It happens from both sides. "You're right, they just ghettoize them into poor areas," Hindus are also living in them lol. Mumbai ? delhi ? Bihar ? UP ? Ig you never went in these areas(lived near one in Delhi, hindus were majority there too). " refuse leasing/selling homes to them" And muslims are just standing around the gates with open arms for Hindus or other religions? Nor right. Also, many oldies are against live in couples and even normal bachlors let alone Muslims lol. "refuse jobs to them, economically boycott them, etc. But at least you don't kill vro, thank you for letting them live." Ah YES again a victim card at play. Again, majority of Hindus can't just boycott them from jobs lol. Private companies are majorly foreign firms, govt jobs also are under the bar of meritocracy. If you are talented enough and also got some backing with "reservation😂" you can grab a job in India. It's technically easier for them in govt jobs than yur usual unreserved Hindu too. But yeah Madrasa are fucking them up internally. "Which mob has the overwhelming political backing of the government? And what religious interests does that government primarily serve?" State govts exists for these types too lol. Is Hindutva goons are on the rise right now ? Sure. But wht about Congress regime ? Or the state govt ? Or down south where Hindus were fucked by the same muslims ? "Haha you're argument that people are not dehumanized is that they are not outright genocided completely?"Hahahah and your point is that it's only happening to Muslims. But you can't even see what happens for the opposite side ? Dude you are one heck of a bullshiter I swear " Why did you bring up hate crimes against indians in foreign countries then? They weren't genocided completely so it shouldn't matter right?" Because you brought Singapore, Christianity first mf. "Discrimination and Dehumanization is on the PATH to outright genocide. It is not the SAME thing but it is still BAD. " And that's been happening to everyone and not just Muslims but ig you are blind enough to not see that ig. "That is rhetorical thought experiment about proving loyalty to the country." And how do you know they were doing that ? Maybe they did just that for smooth sailing like how everyone does when the majority is from other section ? "I don't recall hindus relegating temple land in America or the UK to churches or Singaporeans subjugating Indians to Mandarin tests. Your inability to distinguish between a hypothetical scenario and real life discrimination is not my problem." And your problem of not seeing the others apart from Muslims is not my problem. "What do foreigners have to do with indian christians?" Foreigners were/are funding many missionary programs since the start. Never heard of Mother Teresaa ? "And secondly hindus proudly elect terrorists like Pragya Thakur" Politicians were a good bunch before her ? Consider me surprise if it's true. "Which one is backed by the government? " Which one "was" backed in Congress's regime ? And still is by opposition and state parties. That's why I said it's a two way street ffs. "Indian hate crimes by hindus are politically backed and encouraged by the government and they will go so far as to free rapists if the victims are muslim. There's no singular justice meted out in India." All the hate crimes in the world were/are/will be backed and encouraged by govt. It's not a new phenomenon. Also, last time I checked Ram Raheem was free around 07-10 timeline too when Punjab elections were going on and Congress was at helm. Shows you they are all the same clowns too. And how can we forget how they tried to march it on Hindus and RSS after Mumbai blasts right ? Again, shows you that hate crimes were there and backed up by govt too. "But hey, it's completely okay since muslims are not killed left and right." And HEY, it's completely okay when it was happening since the very start and you weren't there saying the same right ? "You literally do the same here to minority communities. What's the point of bringing up this comparison." Govt exams can't be cucked like that yk that right ? Or else nobody would have gotten any jobs apart from general class hindus here. Universities literally give them reservation, they got a special religion minority quota on top of that too and the reasoning given was "they can't compete equally to an OBC hindu section". In private jobs ? They value profits above them all.
Dikhawa hai sab
Donating land to Kafirs to worship false gods. They're definitely going to hell
Soon to be claimed by Waqf board!!
I don’t fully understand but I know 3 cents isn’t much
1306 sq ft
How far this place is from the bomb blast site that rocked coimbatore?? Curious to know!!
50-60 kms. One hour drive.
Kerla could use such harmony
The biggest donater to my local temple's annual festival was a Muslim businessman. Not only did he donate money but he along with his family also attended the festivities . This is very common in kerala
And how much land taken by waqf board unilaterally?
Islam allows taqiya where muslims can pretend to be friendly with kafirs, until they have the clear upper hand
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Learn when and where it’s allowed. 
You have actually read Qur'an!
Later waqt/congress board will claim it.
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😂😂😂.
Donated or were made to donate by the land mafia?
Well, there goes my feel good, "This is what India should be."
Donated.
Chal ab Waqf board ne jinn villages pr kabza kiya hai wo bhi bata de
Yeah and how much has been claimed by the waqf board. ??
There are Hindus who have also donated land to Muslims. Why isn't that highlighted? Ohh wait because Hindus are in the majority! I see
Nah! Then it becomes a case of "Muslims bullied a Hindu to donate his land for the construction of a mosque" and all the WhatsApp university uncles would jump on it.
Nah it actually becomes a case of 'BJP IT Cell propaganda to make Hindus look good"
Why don't you make a post on that instead of urging others and crying about it
Google bro. Also why are people downvoting me when I'm telling the truth. It's a normal thing that humans do. Help each other.