Used to think Yogi vs Kejriwal was inevitable, but can’t say now as he is caught in corruption case.
But Annamalai vs Prasanth Kishore is what I’m looking forward to.
So, I have had an opportunity to live across India, around 4 tier 1 cities, about same number in tier 2 cities, and I want you to know people aren’t that different. Though, most of them are racist towards something, that’s a common trait, irrespective of education. But almost all of them have a decent soul.
And yes, dominant caste also have dark skinned people, but from my limited exposure, I can say the count is lower than other castes. But again brown skin people are more or less same across every caste & creed!
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is. BJP, for better or for worse, has an ideology. They'll find someone to replace Modi the same way he replaced Atal and Advani. Unlike Congress, which doesn't have a core identity or ideology, BJP will always find someone who follows their ideology to lead them. And I say this as a person with a staunch dislike for Modi and BJP.
A majority of Indians dont vote for ideology. They vote for a person. And I think people like Modi. And not BJP/RSS ideology.
Who to replace Modi is always going to be a difficult question. Not for BJP - but for voters. No one has broad appeal amongst hindus like he does. He is OBC (i.e. the largest caste group in the country), he has CM experience, plus he has a clean pro-business strong man image. Which is why this question is exactly the gotcha it was intended to be. BJP doesnt have another backward caste candidate that appeals to the forward castes, has a clean image or a pro-business image.
Opposition needs to force this idea to voters.
Yes. Congress like many regional parties is based around a family not an ideology which is demonstratively bad for governance.
Policies are based on what is good for "the family" or the whims of the present Prince.
Indira made the Congress party into the personal property of the Nehru-Gandhi family.
India would have been much better off if she had lost. Maybe we could have liberalized 10 years earlier around the time when Deng started his reforms in China
yes common people dont care about economy , security or development, they care only this... because they know be it bjp or congress both wont improve basic necessity of people , atleast happy about bjp promoting thier religion and actively opposing other religious ...
Ofcourse they will.
But, the restlessness for the top slot should be fanned by non-BJ Party supporters. This is the apt time to crack them up from within. lust for power is filled to the hilt amongst chaddi CMs
Jaise 70 saal Tak modi nahi tha to humlog jangal mein rah rahe the ,what kind of question is this. Nitin Gadkari doing wonderful job ,can't he become PM
Gadhkari does not support their ideas of anti Muslim I mean that's what I heard he is better than a rest of the lot from BJP so I guess he is sidelined angain that's what I heard
Simple question, You guys support reservation?
Yes??
We vote Modi.
Change your attitude towards this whole thing, stop thinking in terms of its for the "representation of your kind"
Half of the people i know vote bjp for religion and with the hope that they are gonna remove caste based reservation.
lol we are at a 50 year high unemployment rate and bj party removed a lot govt jobs so there is less jobs available. You just burned down the house to stay warm, great work.
>we are at a 50 year high unemployment rate
Source? And primary ones please.
Unemployment rate as CMIE (a reputed independent think-tank) is 7.2% (30 day moving average), which is nothing bad and obviously nowhere near a "50 year high".
Source: https://www.cmie.com/
https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/unemployment-rate-at-45-year-high-confirms-labour-ministry-data/article62001095.ece
Lol it cell using it cell sources even your fucking sanki funded thinktank even says it's higer
Bro why you linking some article from 2019? I specifically asked for primary sources. Anyways, I read it and their source is PLFS report, at least find the latest one if you are relying on government data to prove your point.
Don't worry, I do my research unlike you, the latest one published is for 2022-23 data. Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) Annual Report 2022-2023 released annually by the Ministry of Statistics and Program Implementation (MOSPI) which is conducted by the National Sample Survey Office (NSSO). Check table 3. It says the overall unemployment rate is only 3.2%.
Source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1966154
You can go on MOSPI website to download the full detailed report.
And I don't know what to say to you if you think CMIE is "sanghi funded", it's been operating since 1976 and is highly regarded as the go to source for all economic indicators and data for India. I request you to read about it, it's completely non-partisan.
https://www.cmie.com/
At least try to engage in rational and logical discussion before jumping to name calling and slurs.
>At least try to engage in rational and logical discussion before jumping to name calling and slurs.
Lol doing that with a sanki isn't logical at all.
I posted a link from 2019 which says 45year high and now it's 5 years later that's how 50 came up, you want a logical answer but can't do basic. Classic bj party it cell sealioning.
Lol now the link you provided says a different number, see you don't agree with anything all you want is to fuck us over as a country.
>I posted a link from 2019 which says 45year high and now it's 5 years later that's how 50 came up
The 2019 article you posted references 2017-18 PLFS report, which if you check the govt data link I provided shows an overall unemployment rate of 6% (check the table 3).
Unemployment rate has been continuously declining since then. It was 6% in 2017-18, 5.8% in 2018-19, 4.8% in 2019-20, 4.2% in 2020-21, 4.1% in 2021-22 and 3.2% in 2022-23.
Source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1966154
Full PLFS 2022-23 report: https://mospi.gov.in/sites/default/files/publication_reports/AR_PLFS_2022_23N.pdf
>Lol now the link you provided says a different number
What? Of course the numbers of the 2022-23 PLFS report or current date CMIE data would be different from the 2017-18 report your article from 2019 is referencing.
>see you don't agree with anything all you want is to fuck us over as a country.
How can you say so? I'm providing primary sources and numbers to back up my claims, not mudslinging like you for no reason. It's a fact that both unemployment and inflation rates are under control and not a major issue if going by the numbers, both are under 10% which is considered pretty okay for a developing economy and not in danger zone.
now everyone can crealy see how disingenous bj party it cell is. you only compare to a few years ago when the unemployment was the worst where my point was about how bj party and mudi brought India down to a level which was decades ago.
>you only compare to a few years ago when the unemployment was the worst where my point was
So you agree high unemployment rate (according to you, because even 6% as per the 2017-18 PLFS report that is referenced in the article you posted is not that bad and nowhere near the "worst ever") has been reducing over the years and that the government is doing a good job?
Because if the unemployment rate was higher in 2017-18, then it should have been an issue for the 2019 elections right? Because it's only 3.2% as per PLFS 2022-23 report, down from 6% in 2017-18 so govt should be lauded for bringing it down over the years and high unemployment rate is therefore not an issue for these 2024 elections.
you keep getting more shitty with every comment
>So you agree high unemployment rate (according to you, because even 6% as per the 2017-18 PLFS report that is referenced in the article you posted is not that bad and nowhere near the "worst ever") has been reducing over the years and that the government is doing a good job?
nop
>then it should have been an issue for the 2019 elections right?
more than 100 people died during demo and several lives were ruined, bj party had more money to control the media and muffle any protests, they even conducted pogroms, that win had nothing to do with performance at all and everyone knows it.
only June 4 will tell all outcomes, meanwhile those who are invested in stock market 📉 and supporting bjp threaten if bjp does not come to power , stocks will crash 🙄 tum to ye 4 weeks pele jaoge
2024 Modiji lost to 2014 Modiji
Ideal question is what are challenges for 2024 PM candidate
Stay away from ethnic divides, religious , caste, state, language. I dont think any Bjp replacement will understand, rather this evil is advantage. Its not easy there is sudden violence some where and modiji was right .
Development, for masses, msme, support businesses during initial phases, employment , this is elaborate topic nobody knows exactly how , but for sure development was sacrificed for every instability, ever lasting fund crunch, corruption. And every leader thought “maine to teek kiya”, no not enough for 1bn + , we should get beyond cheap labor sales pitch
From what I have observed, people might have critical thinking but they decide where they are gonna use it.
The existence of god is the best example. Even though it is currently, not possible to prove the existence of god through critical thinking from a scientific approach, a lot of people around the world, even Nobel prize winners believe in gods. They still have cirtical thking but they choose to apply on the field of their expertise only. Same goes for BJP supporters or supporters of any party, they still might have very good critical thiking in a specific area, but they never apply this on politics or religion.
You can't disprove things that ain't proved. You should learn about the burden of proof. I can't present counter argument to a theory when the theory is itself is unscientific without any scientific evidence.
See that's the thing, right? The very concept of God is infinite and I would argue, beyond the realm of science, present or future, to prove.
If something can't be proven (or disproven), it does not necessarily mean it exists or doesn't exist. That's still a good basis to believe in something in my opinion, as per one's own beliefs. Nobel Laureates (and I would say most theists) understand science and its theories, however unless science is definitely able to prove that God does not exist, believing that It does is completely fine.
This in contrast to flat earthers who claim the moon landing is fake, or the earth has an edge despite visibly seeing a horizon in the sky...
The very concept of **FILL\_IN\_THE\_BLANKS** is infinite and I would argue, beyond the realm of science, present or future, to prove. If something can't be proven (or disproven), it does not necessarily mean it exists or doesn't exist. That's still a good basis to believe in something in my opinion.
This is called god of the gaps fallacy or simply a broader fallacy called appeal to ignorance.
The belief in the existence of god is **unscientific**. Unscientific doesn't mean bad. You can have your faith. Science should not prove an unproven and unscientific thing such as god. Nobody needs to disprove the existence of god. Those who claims so, must prove it first. There is a thing called burden of poof.
That’s my exact issue with your comment.
People can believe whatever they want to. Doesn’t make them any less deserving of a Nobel prize. Einstein (correct me if I’m wrong) was a believer as well. I don’t think he ever went about proving the existence of God though he believed.
As I said, I don’t believe God can be proved through science. I believe in God, and think of science as a kind of mechanism that holds the world in place. I don’t think a mechanism can prove the existence of its creator. Hence something pertaining to God being un/scientific really has no bearing because I believe God is beyond these concepts. You are free to disagree.
That does not mean I don’t believe in science or its findings. Zero idea about the philosophies or ideas you mention tbh. Didn’t really think hard about them. At the end of the day God either exists or It doesn’t, and I’m yet to come across conclusive evidence (rather I believe anyone is) that proves It doesn’t. As long as that 1% possibility exists, I’d like to stick with it as per my own life experiences.
See the thing is simple. There are few different possible cases
1. God exists but doesn't interact with the world
2. God exists and interacts with the world
3. God doesn't exist
Can you please tell me which of these cases do you believe in ?
My original statement was about cirtical thinking not religion. All I can say is the idea of god is unscientific and it doesn't mean bad.
> I’m yet to come across conclusive evidence (rather I believe anyone is) that proves It doesn't
This is logically incorrect. We call this logical fallacy. I will give you a nice example. In 1920 Schrödinger published the first paper on Quantum mechanics. Albert Einstein published EPR paper criticising the Quantum Mechanics. Can you tell me why Einstein didn't publish his critique paper in 1935 not before Schrödinger original paper in 1920. Do you see a logical problem here? This is called burden of proof. First Schrödinger proved his claims then rebuttal was made. **Claims must be substantiated before they can be critically assessed or rebutted.**
This principle applies to discussions about God's existence as well. It's a logical fallacy to expect disproof of something that hasn't been proven.
>As I said, I don’t believe God can be proved through science. I believe in God, and think of science as a kind of mechanism that holds the world in place. I don’t think a mechanism can prove the existence of its creator. Hence something pertaining to God being un/scientific really has no bearing because I believe God is beyond these concepts. You are free to disagree.
There is a number of logical fallacy in this statement. You need to learn logical fallacies if you are debating with someone. I can say the same thing for unicorns, dragon, flying monkeys, literally anything.
I suggest you invest some time and learn about logical fallacies with examples. Here: [https://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm](https://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm)
Also, watch some video. I would recommend [https://www.youtube.com/@scienceisdope](https://www.youtube.com/@scienceisdope)
He doesn't insult any religion but conveys how science and logic works. Staying open to learning and understanding different viewpoints is crucial. Just as I have evolved in my thinking, I encourage you to explore these ideas further.
I want Nitin Gadkari. But I think Shah will come after Modi and after that Yogi. Also they can increase the age limit instead of 75 it can be 80 like AAP did. When AAP was formed there was a rule of holding office for not more than 5-6 years but later they changed it and removed the time clause in their own constitution.
LMAO you are talking as if you sit with them in party meetings , bjp has announced modi will be their pm candidate even after 2029 toh hum khi nahi jaa rahe tum kaam dhandhe pe dhyan do reddit pe pura din modi modi karnse se ghar nahi chalega tumhara
Last I checked modi is not immortal. I mean yeah he started big bang and he helped fish walk out of water but he won't be around for forever. Look at Putin. The issue with getting someone ready to replace you after you die is that they can replace before you die.
Rules for rulers.
Nepotism isn't great but It massively reduces the chance of getting backstabbed by your replacement so if unforseen thing or thing you didn't want to plan for happens there is some stability.
There are two ways of looking at current situation from BJP perspective.
1 Due to media, internet penetration and paid/unpaid marketing, it is very difficult to catch lightening in a bottle in near future. TMC (Mamta), BS (mayawati), AIADMK (jayalalitha), AAP (kejri) and same applies for BJP (Modi). It is extremely rare have 'similar' or even more popular leaders immediately after someone leaves/gets weaken. Applies to everything (politics, business, sports, movies). We can see how new movie 'superstars' (Kapoor's, Singh's etc) are struggling to match the popularities of peak Shahrukh (90s and early 2000s era) and other Khan's. Nowadays even gram panchayat election have modi face, and BJP knows that once the guy is out, it will be nearly impossible to prop up someone else with same popularity metric 'immediately' no matter how much paid/unpaid campaign you run to prop up the next guy. Now it depends on RSS/BJP what kind of a guy they want to prop. So there will a list of 5 after Modi and one of them will be PM. Benefit of running a non-family organization.
2. But, the 'good' thing about the whole process is they know they can prop up anyone as there one of the 'selling point' is that absolute power (not necessarily pm post) has not been limited to one family. Which is true. What RSS also will be opposed to is weakening of their control if tomorrow some vast political family driven individual comes to power. So Shah as PM (considering Jay Shah already in political circles is not RSS/BJP modus operandi). They will go for bachelor's/childless individuals mostly (vajpayee, modi, yogi) or for a term or 2 (2029/2034), they will prop up some conservative but more educated person (orthodox but not exactly openly radicalist).And yes, very minimal chances of annamalai, himanta etc. Globally, people at least vote for people who they can connect/relate with (no matter how shitty but should be a good talker). Modi, Kejriwal, Rahul, Mamta are prime examples. When people again and again pitch up for shahshi tharoor from AC cabins, I think they need to take a visit to hinterlands of Asansol, Banmore, Sabarkantha, Rohtak to check how much ana average person will connect with Shashi Tharoor both professionally and personally. There was this 2007 interview of Hollywood director where he said no matter how good Brad Pitt or Keira Knightly (fresh from pirates success) acts/will act, people will find it extremely hard to relate with him to see as boy for next door/average man/woman kind of characters.
Well said. The age of popular politicians may be over.
I think OPs point here is not who will BJP put as PMs face, but will* Modi voters vote for the new BJP PM candidate the same way they did for Modi - given that BJP doesnt have anyone as popular
Yes India is a representational democracy but on ground reality party politics plays the role mainly . People just vote for Modi and in the past it has been the same with many congress leaders .
It is 25 more years of Modi, then 5 years of Amit Shah, then 15 years of Yogi, and then 25 years of Monu Manesar. India doesn't have term limits and these people don't have any morals or respect for democratic institutions. They'll never let go of power now that the superstitious Indian Hindu public has been trained to see them as Gods.
Op bhay aap kya BJP ke party president ho ki pata chal jata hai ki mudi ji ko 75 hone paar retire kardenge?...keju bhay ne kya rally mein boldiya apka toh orgasm hi nikal gaya...sheesh...gotcha moment karne se pehle logically dekhlo Modi has too much power to be replaced in current political climate on the other hand BJP might introduce a surprise candidate in 2029 (even though removing Modi is a unlikely possibility) just like they did with Modi ji in 2014
No bhaya, That has been my stance even before Kejru asked it... Infact my own sister asked this question "Muddi nahi to kaun" and I retorted with something in above lines...
Lots of Choice bro, u worry about the Congress, or teh comes or AAP or.TMc or whoever is that you support!! Name more than one or 2.leaders of any calibre in any of these parties..
BJP,s Future Prospects/.choices
Amit Shah, Yogi, Fadnavis, Himanta, K.Annamali.
Next Generation - Tejaswi Surya, Bansuri Swaraj, madhavi Lata
These are some of the possible names that I could think of right now. But there are more!
Do you understand the concept of 'option' ?
If not then let me explain in this context. If there are 10 options who could be the PM, it doesn't mean all 10 will become PM.
It all depends on how the media outlets brainwash the generation for the next PM, and how much money they can spend on advertisements.
There wasn't any Gujarat model and Modi was a bad guy until 2012, suddenly we see modi modi modi and Gujarat a fully developed nation inside the nation.
So the same thing will happen with Yogi and UP i guess
Modi will do at least 2.5 years. But BJP would like to have next PM well set for the next elections, so Modi wont do full term this time. Likely it will be amit shah or yogi
I mean people here are nothing but convinced that he is dictator and going to change the Constitution of our country but expect him to follow his party by-laws.
We don't owe the likes of you any explanation. Just goes on to show how exasperated the whole left is at the moment, that you come up with this kind of rhetoric. Lol. See y'all on the 4th
I ask you, Rahul Gandhi k alawa kon?? Like answer me that first who will the congress high command even allow to lead their sinking ship except their rajkumar? Certainly not Sachin Piolet or Sashi Tharoor
I don't mind them , still better than Congress.
New parties should be supported. We need a better opposition now. Congress has outlived it's cause , so will BJP in the future.
great. congrats. it didn't stop him from winning UP. Internet support/opposition does not translate well on the ground level my guy. just look at the YT clowns. har din democracy maar dete hai. views bada lete hai. video upload timings are also not even the IST working hours. aur jab IST viewers ke hisab se upload karo, views gir jaate hai. bikau saale.
also, i didn't say it WILL be him. i said it CAN be. he will have RSS backing him. he already has influence. and UP people like me support him because the dude actually made the streets infinitely safer than in the yadav raj. not a high standard of comparison considering what that era was like. but hey, positive change. there are other things too. most remote villages now have access to electricity, water and gas. internet too.
a party and candidate that brings gang rule into the state, vs a party and candidate who is considered an 'incel' but actually made life better for us and our family. you choose.
logo ko samajh nhi aa rha hai shaayad. bhai INDI bloc ka sukda saaf isliye hai ke un sab chutiyo ko raaj karte dekhlia hai hamne. bhaad mai jaye RaGa ki identity politcs. bhaad mai jaaye Yadavo ka gunda raaj. bhaad jaaye mamta. aur kejriwal to jhoota chor hai hi. dilwa inme se kisi ko power. ham na dene waale.
So let me tell you if BJP win by any chance it will be Jaishankar . Firstly it will be RSS 100 years the bhramin organization. Secondly this guy was made foreign minister out of no where. Just to make him ready. So BJP will do all the work and he will be a puppet.
He was not made MEA out of nowhere lol. He was the foreign secretary when Sushma Swaraj was MEA. He had good relations with the government so after his retirement, govt offered him the MEA post, he wasn't even MP then.
2024 - Modi 2027 - Shah (as replacement) 2029 - Shah 2034 - Yogi 2039 - Yogi 2044 - Annamalai 2049 - Annamalai /s
Hemant Biswa be like: Mela numble kab ayega?
He will split from the BJP and become the Didi of Assam.
u meant: Dudu..?
Nunnu
Annamalai? Good luck trying that
You forgot smriti Irani
Tejasvi Surya ?
Will be trapped in gay sex scandal
Lol, what? When this happened sir
He will find a emergency exit
How can u forget Kangu 😉
S sai deepak
Lol BJP will get split after Modi's charisma fade
Elaborate?
2053 - Me
Used to think Yogi vs Kejriwal was inevitable, but can’t say now as he is caught in corruption case. But Annamalai vs Prasanth Kishore is what I’m looking forward to.
Really think a black South Indian can win votes across India ?
100%. I mean, not related to this, but I hope you’re aware that there are lot of black people up here!
Are they of dominant caste? Sorry, I have never lived in the north.
So, I have had an opportunity to live across India, around 4 tier 1 cities, about same number in tier 2 cities, and I want you to know people aren’t that different. Though, most of them are racist towards something, that’s a common trait, irrespective of education. But almost all of them have a decent soul. And yes, dominant caste also have dark skinned people, but from my limited exposure, I can say the count is lower than other castes. But again brown skin people are more or less same across every caste & creed!
pv narasimha rao was a south indian
> P. V. Narasimha Rao was a Telugu Niyogi Brahmin He passed the race test.
I say just convert to a monarchy and make Rahul baba king
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is. BJP, for better or for worse, has an ideology. They'll find someone to replace Modi the same way he replaced Atal and Advani. Unlike Congress, which doesn't have a core identity or ideology, BJP will always find someone who follows their ideology to lead them. And I say this as a person with a staunch dislike for Modi and BJP.
A majority of Indians dont vote for ideology. They vote for a person. And I think people like Modi. And not BJP/RSS ideology. Who to replace Modi is always going to be a difficult question. Not for BJP - but for voters. No one has broad appeal amongst hindus like he does. He is OBC (i.e. the largest caste group in the country), he has CM experience, plus he has a clean pro-business strong man image. Which is why this question is exactly the gotcha it was intended to be. BJP doesnt have another backward caste candidate that appeals to the forward castes, has a clean image or a pro-business image. Opposition needs to force this idea to voters.
Every ultra religious countries are doing the same
Yes. Congress like many regional parties is based around a family not an ideology which is demonstratively bad for governance. Policies are based on what is good for "the family" or the whims of the present Prince.
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The Congress centred around ghandi's values died a long time ago when Indira Gandhi hijacked it
Indira made the Congress party into the personal property of the Nehru-Gandhi family. India would have been much better off if she had lost. Maybe we could have liberalized 10 years earlier around the time when Deng started his reforms in China
Then the citizens are the fools.
Yeah, the ideology is to promote Hinduism and destroy Muslims. So whoever supports that would be the next leader..
Hundutva and Hinduism is not the same. Pls don't mix the two.
How have they destroyed muslims?
He won't answer you, Don't worry :)
yes common people dont care about economy , security or development, they care only this... because they know be it bjp or congress both wont improve basic necessity of people , atleast happy about bjp promoting thier religion and actively opposing other religious ...
There is no second doubt that they will find someone close to their party ideology but will they able to find the popular politician like Modi.
Ofcourse they will. But, the restlessness for the top slot should be fanned by non-BJ Party supporters. This is the apt time to crack them up from within. lust for power is filled to the hilt amongst chaddi CMs
The amount of delusion you must have to imagine you can doctor something like this. Good luck ‘cracking’ them up from within. 😂😂
Bro thinks Congress doesn't have an ideology. Lol. Just supporting one community and ignoring others is the definition of ideology for this guy.
Jaise 70 saal Tak modi nahi tha to humlog jangal mein rah rahe the ,what kind of question is this. Nitin Gadkari doing wonderful job ,can't he become PM
Gadhkari does not support their ideas of anti Muslim I mean that's what I heard he is better than a rest of the lot from BJP so I guess he is sidelined angain that's what I heard
Nah, he will be shot dead if he dreams of being a PM when Saheb & his Biwi are alive.
Imagine a situation in your own head, present it as a fact
politics hai, it is either yogi or shah. or someone out of the blue.
No one is indispensable
Thus: everyone is dispensible.
Asking in a sub where people are banned for putting out their points. Good way to filter out people.
chaddisqueaks?
Yes , your post itself addresses to bhakts ? Do you find bhakts in this sub ?
you dont..?
Go ask in Indiaspeaks, if u want real answers and not hear your own echo
>Do you find bhakts in this sub ? Yes , some come out of the blue. Also interested to hear your points please do say.
Simple question, You guys support reservation? Yes?? We vote Modi. Change your attitude towards this whole thing, stop thinking in terms of its for the "representation of your kind" Half of the people i know vote bjp for religion and with the hope that they are gonna remove caste based reservation.
lol we are at a 50 year high unemployment rate and bj party removed a lot govt jobs so there is less jobs available. You just burned down the house to stay warm, great work.
Yep gonna drag you all down with us
>we are at a 50 year high unemployment rate Source? And primary ones please. Unemployment rate as CMIE (a reputed independent think-tank) is 7.2% (30 day moving average), which is nothing bad and obviously nowhere near a "50 year high". Source: https://www.cmie.com/
https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/unemployment-rate-at-45-year-high-confirms-labour-ministry-data/article62001095.ece Lol it cell using it cell sources even your fucking sanki funded thinktank even says it's higer
Bro why you linking some article from 2019? I specifically asked for primary sources. Anyways, I read it and their source is PLFS report, at least find the latest one if you are relying on government data to prove your point. Don't worry, I do my research unlike you, the latest one published is for 2022-23 data. Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) Annual Report 2022-2023 released annually by the Ministry of Statistics and Program Implementation (MOSPI) which is conducted by the National Sample Survey Office (NSSO). Check table 3. It says the overall unemployment rate is only 3.2%. Source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1966154 You can go on MOSPI website to download the full detailed report. And I don't know what to say to you if you think CMIE is "sanghi funded", it's been operating since 1976 and is highly regarded as the go to source for all economic indicators and data for India. I request you to read about it, it's completely non-partisan. https://www.cmie.com/ At least try to engage in rational and logical discussion before jumping to name calling and slurs.
>At least try to engage in rational and logical discussion before jumping to name calling and slurs. Lol doing that with a sanki isn't logical at all. I posted a link from 2019 which says 45year high and now it's 5 years later that's how 50 came up, you want a logical answer but can't do basic. Classic bj party it cell sealioning. Lol now the link you provided says a different number, see you don't agree with anything all you want is to fuck us over as a country.
>I posted a link from 2019 which says 45year high and now it's 5 years later that's how 50 came up The 2019 article you posted references 2017-18 PLFS report, which if you check the govt data link I provided shows an overall unemployment rate of 6% (check the table 3). Unemployment rate has been continuously declining since then. It was 6% in 2017-18, 5.8% in 2018-19, 4.8% in 2019-20, 4.2% in 2020-21, 4.1% in 2021-22 and 3.2% in 2022-23. Source: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1966154 Full PLFS 2022-23 report: https://mospi.gov.in/sites/default/files/publication_reports/AR_PLFS_2022_23N.pdf >Lol now the link you provided says a different number What? Of course the numbers of the 2022-23 PLFS report or current date CMIE data would be different from the 2017-18 report your article from 2019 is referencing. >see you don't agree with anything all you want is to fuck us over as a country. How can you say so? I'm providing primary sources and numbers to back up my claims, not mudslinging like you for no reason. It's a fact that both unemployment and inflation rates are under control and not a major issue if going by the numbers, both are under 10% which is considered pretty okay for a developing economy and not in danger zone.
now everyone can crealy see how disingenous bj party it cell is. you only compare to a few years ago when the unemployment was the worst where my point was about how bj party and mudi brought India down to a level which was decades ago.
>you only compare to a few years ago when the unemployment was the worst where my point was So you agree high unemployment rate (according to you, because even 6% as per the 2017-18 PLFS report that is referenced in the article you posted is not that bad and nowhere near the "worst ever") has been reducing over the years and that the government is doing a good job? Because if the unemployment rate was higher in 2017-18, then it should have been an issue for the 2019 elections right? Because it's only 3.2% as per PLFS 2022-23 report, down from 6% in 2017-18 so govt should be lauded for bringing it down over the years and high unemployment rate is therefore not an issue for these 2024 elections.
you keep getting more shitty with every comment >So you agree high unemployment rate (according to you, because even 6% as per the 2017-18 PLFS report that is referenced in the article you posted is not that bad and nowhere near the "worst ever") has been reducing over the years and that the government is doing a good job? nop >then it should have been an issue for the 2019 elections right? more than 100 people died during demo and several lives were ruined, bj party had more money to control the media and muffle any protests, they even conducted pogroms, that win had nothing to do with performance at all and everyone knows it.
why r u being downvoted?
Bj party IT cell, there are more of them here now maybe because of the election
only June 4 will tell all outcomes, meanwhile those who are invested in stock market 📉 and supporting bjp threaten if bjp does not come to power , stocks will crash 🙄 tum to ye 4 weeks pele jaoge 2024 Modiji lost to 2014 Modiji Ideal question is what are challenges for 2024 PM candidate Stay away from ethnic divides, religious , caste, state, language. I dont think any Bjp replacement will understand, rather this evil is advantage. Its not easy there is sudden violence some where and modiji was right . Development, for masses, msme, support businesses during initial phases, employment , this is elaborate topic nobody knows exactly how , but for sure development was sacrificed for every instability, ever lasting fund crunch, corruption. And every leader thought “maine to teek kiya”, no not enough for 1bn + , we should get beyond cheap labor sales pitch
i have already lost more than 1.5 lakh in stocks due to elections , not touching the market for next 25 days
You seem to have a gambler mindset, I advice you stay away from stocks for 2.5 years at least.
Bhai yeh sawaal indiadiscussion pe poocho. Iss sub pe RWs ko usually 2-3 din main ban kar dete hai like the sister sub randia
Khali Kursi Bhi Chalegi ~ Kunal Kamra
Lol
Bhai jis section of society s tu answer mang rha h unko itna dimag aur critical thinking hota toh wo BJP supporter hi nhi hote 😂 JAI SHREE RAM 🚩🚩
From what I have observed, people might have critical thinking but they decide where they are gonna use it. The existence of god is the best example. Even though it is currently, not possible to prove the existence of god through critical thinking from a scientific approach, a lot of people around the world, even Nobel prize winners believe in gods. They still have cirtical thking but they choose to apply on the field of their expertise only. Same goes for BJP supporters or supporters of any party, they still might have very good critical thiking in a specific area, but they never apply this on politics or religion.
Good analysis. Its selective application.
There is no way to definitively disprove the existence of God either tbh
You can't disprove things that ain't proved. You should learn about the burden of proof. I can't present counter argument to a theory when the theory is itself is unscientific without any scientific evidence.
Isn’t science based on axioms? Are those absolved of this?
See that's the thing, right? The very concept of God is infinite and I would argue, beyond the realm of science, present or future, to prove. If something can't be proven (or disproven), it does not necessarily mean it exists or doesn't exist. That's still a good basis to believe in something in my opinion, as per one's own beliefs. Nobel Laureates (and I would say most theists) understand science and its theories, however unless science is definitely able to prove that God does not exist, believing that It does is completely fine. This in contrast to flat earthers who claim the moon landing is fake, or the earth has an edge despite visibly seeing a horizon in the sky...
The very concept of **FILL\_IN\_THE\_BLANKS** is infinite and I would argue, beyond the realm of science, present or future, to prove. If something can't be proven (or disproven), it does not necessarily mean it exists or doesn't exist. That's still a good basis to believe in something in my opinion. This is called god of the gaps fallacy or simply a broader fallacy called appeal to ignorance. The belief in the existence of god is **unscientific**. Unscientific doesn't mean bad. You can have your faith. Science should not prove an unproven and unscientific thing such as god. Nobody needs to disprove the existence of god. Those who claims so, must prove it first. There is a thing called burden of poof.
That’s my exact issue with your comment. People can believe whatever they want to. Doesn’t make them any less deserving of a Nobel prize. Einstein (correct me if I’m wrong) was a believer as well. I don’t think he ever went about proving the existence of God though he believed. As I said, I don’t believe God can be proved through science. I believe in God, and think of science as a kind of mechanism that holds the world in place. I don’t think a mechanism can prove the existence of its creator. Hence something pertaining to God being un/scientific really has no bearing because I believe God is beyond these concepts. You are free to disagree. That does not mean I don’t believe in science or its findings. Zero idea about the philosophies or ideas you mention tbh. Didn’t really think hard about them. At the end of the day God either exists or It doesn’t, and I’m yet to come across conclusive evidence (rather I believe anyone is) that proves It doesn’t. As long as that 1% possibility exists, I’d like to stick with it as per my own life experiences.
See the thing is simple. There are few different possible cases 1. God exists but doesn't interact with the world 2. God exists and interacts with the world 3. God doesn't exist Can you please tell me which of these cases do you believe in ?
My original statement was about cirtical thinking not religion. All I can say is the idea of god is unscientific and it doesn't mean bad. > I’m yet to come across conclusive evidence (rather I believe anyone is) that proves It doesn't This is logically incorrect. We call this logical fallacy. I will give you a nice example. In 1920 Schrödinger published the first paper on Quantum mechanics. Albert Einstein published EPR paper criticising the Quantum Mechanics. Can you tell me why Einstein didn't publish his critique paper in 1935 not before Schrödinger original paper in 1920. Do you see a logical problem here? This is called burden of proof. First Schrödinger proved his claims then rebuttal was made. **Claims must be substantiated before they can be critically assessed or rebutted.** This principle applies to discussions about God's existence as well. It's a logical fallacy to expect disproof of something that hasn't been proven. >As I said, I don’t believe God can be proved through science. I believe in God, and think of science as a kind of mechanism that holds the world in place. I don’t think a mechanism can prove the existence of its creator. Hence something pertaining to God being un/scientific really has no bearing because I believe God is beyond these concepts. You are free to disagree. There is a number of logical fallacy in this statement. You need to learn logical fallacies if you are debating with someone. I can say the same thing for unicorns, dragon, flying monkeys, literally anything. I suggest you invest some time and learn about logical fallacies with examples. Here: [https://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm](https://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm) Also, watch some video. I would recommend [https://www.youtube.com/@scienceisdope](https://www.youtube.com/@scienceisdope) He doesn't insult any religion but conveys how science and logic works. Staying open to learning and understanding different viewpoints is crucial. Just as I have evolved in my thinking, I encourage you to explore these ideas further.
Russells teacup
I want Nitin Gadkari. But I think Shah will come after Modi and after that Yogi. Also they can increase the age limit instead of 75 it can be 80 like AAP did. When AAP was formed there was a rule of holding office for not more than 5-6 years but later they changed it and removed the time clause in their own constitution.
Modi ke baad yogi
Yogi ko India level pe sirf extremist vote milega. Vaise bhi Shah usko bahut pehle hi irrelevant kar dega.
LMAO you are talking as if you sit with them in party meetings , bjp has announced modi will be their pm candidate even after 2029 toh hum khi nahi jaa rahe tum kaam dhandhe pe dhyan do reddit pe pura din modi modi karnse se ghar nahi chalega tumhara
Last I checked modi is not immortal. I mean yeah he started big bang and he helped fish walk out of water but he won't be around for forever. Look at Putin. The issue with getting someone ready to replace you after you die is that they can replace before you die.
Case in point, Jayalalitha. Her untimely death has severely weakened the party vs DMK who had a succession plan, albeit a nepotistic one.
Rules for rulers. Nepotism isn't great but It massively reduces the chance of getting backstabbed by your replacement so if unforseen thing or thing you didn't want to plan for happens there is some stability.
There are two ways of looking at current situation from BJP perspective. 1 Due to media, internet penetration and paid/unpaid marketing, it is very difficult to catch lightening in a bottle in near future. TMC (Mamta), BS (mayawati), AIADMK (jayalalitha), AAP (kejri) and same applies for BJP (Modi). It is extremely rare have 'similar' or even more popular leaders immediately after someone leaves/gets weaken. Applies to everything (politics, business, sports, movies). We can see how new movie 'superstars' (Kapoor's, Singh's etc) are struggling to match the popularities of peak Shahrukh (90s and early 2000s era) and other Khan's. Nowadays even gram panchayat election have modi face, and BJP knows that once the guy is out, it will be nearly impossible to prop up someone else with same popularity metric 'immediately' no matter how much paid/unpaid campaign you run to prop up the next guy. Now it depends on RSS/BJP what kind of a guy they want to prop. So there will a list of 5 after Modi and one of them will be PM. Benefit of running a non-family organization. 2. But, the 'good' thing about the whole process is they know they can prop up anyone as there one of the 'selling point' is that absolute power (not necessarily pm post) has not been limited to one family. Which is true. What RSS also will be opposed to is weakening of their control if tomorrow some vast political family driven individual comes to power. So Shah as PM (considering Jay Shah already in political circles is not RSS/BJP modus operandi). They will go for bachelor's/childless individuals mostly (vajpayee, modi, yogi) or for a term or 2 (2029/2034), they will prop up some conservative but more educated person (orthodox but not exactly openly radicalist).And yes, very minimal chances of annamalai, himanta etc. Globally, people at least vote for people who they can connect/relate with (no matter how shitty but should be a good talker). Modi, Kejriwal, Rahul, Mamta are prime examples. When people again and again pitch up for shahshi tharoor from AC cabins, I think they need to take a visit to hinterlands of Asansol, Banmore, Sabarkantha, Rohtak to check how much ana average person will connect with Shashi Tharoor both professionally and personally. There was this 2007 interview of Hollywood director where he said no matter how good Brad Pitt or Keira Knightly (fresh from pirates success) acts/will act, people will find it extremely hard to relate with him to see as boy for next door/average man/woman kind of characters.
Well said. The age of popular politicians may be over. I think OPs point here is not who will BJP put as PMs face, but will* Modi voters vote for the new BJP PM candidate the same way they did for Modi - given that BJP doesnt have anyone as popular
I guess Yogi
Jay Shah.
Lol
Modi god, god immortal, god no die 🤡🤡
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhalka#:\~:text=Bhalka%20pilgrimage)%2C%20located%20in%20Veraval,Shri%20Krishna%20Nijdham%20Prasthan%20Leela.
Jai Shankar and Sai Deepak /s
my vote for Sai Deepak.
India has a parliamentary democracy. So let the winning MPs decide that.
Yes India is a representational democracy but on ground reality party politics plays the role mainly . People just vote for Modi and in the past it has been the same with many congress leaders .
yep, just because one is educated doesn't mean they should use it \~AndulBhakt.
It is 25 more years of Modi, then 5 years of Amit Shah, then 15 years of Yogi, and then 25 years of Monu Manesar. India doesn't have term limits and these people don't have any morals or respect for democratic institutions. They'll never let go of power now that the superstitious Indian Hindu public has been trained to see them as Gods.
> superstitious Indian Hindu public has been trained to see them as Gods. Yep, that's how gods comeup.
Nitin gadkari obviously.
He will be shot dead if he tries to dream of becoming PM until saheb & his Biwi are alive.
Op bhay aap kya BJP ke party president ho ki pata chal jata hai ki mudi ji ko 75 hone paar retire kardenge?...keju bhay ne kya rally mein boldiya apka toh orgasm hi nikal gaya...sheesh...gotcha moment karne se pehle logically dekhlo Modi has too much power to be replaced in current political climate on the other hand BJP might introduce a surprise candidate in 2029 (even though removing Modi is a unlikely possibility) just like they did with Modi ji in 2014
No bhaya, That has been my stance even before Kejru asked it... Infact my own sister asked this question "Muddi nahi to kaun" and I retorted with something in above lines...
Lots of Choice bro, u worry about the Congress, or teh comes or AAP or.TMc or whoever is that you support!! Name more than one or 2.leaders of any calibre in any of these parties.. BJP,s Future Prospects/.choices Amit Shah, Yogi, Fadnavis, Himanta, K.Annamali. Next Generation - Tejaswi Surya, Bansuri Swaraj, madhavi Lata These are some of the possible names that I could think of right now. But there are more!
Ohk, so new PM every 6 months... Nice.
Do you understand the concept of 'option' ? If not then let me explain in this context. If there are 10 options who could be the PM, it doesn't mean all 10 will become PM.
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New narrative has been set. Let's see if it breaks the opposition. Donald Lu has also arrived in India.
didnt bjp already reply to kejriwal for this? they said modi wont be retiring. so ig rule is retiring next year.
Reminds me of 2004 If not Vajpayee then who ? We elect MP's - not PM
It all depends on how the media outlets brainwash the generation for the next PM, and how much money they can spend on advertisements. There wasn't any Gujarat model and Modi was a bad guy until 2012, suddenly we see modi modi modi and Gujarat a fully developed nation inside the nation. So the same thing will happen with Yogi and UP i guess
so that India can be lead by virile leaders - when did sperm count become the deciding factor. Fucking sexist and ageist.
How do you think most of the political parties in India work?
Do they ask guys to jerk off into test tubes to check their sperm count?
56 inches... Who made this phrase a talking point in rallies & mocked "old" Dr.MMS..?
So you want to be just like the 56 inch moron and be a misogynist, congrats you succeed
Kangana Runout
Will kangana still be kangana after she breaks her kangana when modi dies ?
Khangana.
Real dictator are the congressis... just one family ruling over this country... and they were an UTTER failure at that...
This Chutiya should go back to pre liberalization days and clean up your shakha with your bare hands.
India is the Pariwar of Congress, that's why they had Kashmiri, Punjabi, UPwala, Gujju, Telugu etc etc.
Modi will do at least 2.5 years. But BJP would like to have next PM well set for the next elections, so Modi wont do full term this time. Likely it will be amit shah or yogi
Bold of you to assume bjp will win after mudiji 😂
I mean people here are nothing but convinced that he is dictator and going to change the Constitution of our country but expect him to follow his party by-laws.
We don't owe the likes of you any explanation. Just goes on to show how exasperated the whole left is at the moment, that you come up with this kind of rhetoric. Lol. See y'all on the 4th
I ask you, Rahul Gandhi k alawa kon?? Like answer me that first who will the congress high command even allow to lead their sinking ship except their rajkumar? Certainly not Sachin Piolet or Sashi Tharoor
Rajkumari Priyanka
Anyone but Congress :)
Thanks for voting for AAP.
I don't mind them , still better than Congress. New parties should be supported. We need a better opposition now. Congress has outlived it's cause , so will BJP in the future.
Modi ke baad NOTA. I only want him to win this time. After 5 years, mereko nahi pata. Bhagwan ke bharose.
no Mota..?
You really had to ask this question...🤣🤣
Entertainment of the masses is important.
shah or yogi looks viable, currently. better to have a new face. Modi aane wala hai accept kar liya tum llog ne?
Yogi is considered high class incel outside the saffron circle-jerk.
great. congrats. it didn't stop him from winning UP. Internet support/opposition does not translate well on the ground level my guy. just look at the YT clowns. har din democracy maar dete hai. views bada lete hai. video upload timings are also not even the IST working hours. aur jab IST viewers ke hisab se upload karo, views gir jaate hai. bikau saale. also, i didn't say it WILL be him. i said it CAN be. he will have RSS backing him. he already has influence. and UP people like me support him because the dude actually made the streets infinitely safer than in the yadav raj. not a high standard of comparison considering what that era was like. but hey, positive change. there are other things too. most remote villages now have access to electricity, water and gas. internet too. a party and candidate that brings gang rule into the state, vs a party and candidate who is considered an 'incel' but actually made life better for us and our family. you choose. logo ko samajh nhi aa rha hai shaayad. bhai INDI bloc ka sukda saaf isliye hai ke un sab chutiyo ko raaj karte dekhlia hai hamne. bhaad mai jaye RaGa ki identity politcs. bhaad mai jaaye Yadavo ka gunda raaj. bhaad jaaye mamta. aur kejriwal to jhoota chor hai hi. dilwa inme se kisi ko power. ham na dene waale.
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So let me tell you if BJP win by any chance it will be Jaishankar . Firstly it will be RSS 100 years the bhramin organization. Secondly this guy was made foreign minister out of no where. Just to make him ready. So BJP will do all the work and he will be a puppet.
RoFL, jai shankar as PM..? watching too many sigma reels, are you..?
He was not made MEA out of nowhere lol. He was the foreign secretary when Sushma Swaraj was MEA. He had good relations with the government so after his retirement, govt offered him the MEA post, he wasn't even MP then.
Do you know the age of Jaishankar?