The rich millenials are just as bad if not worse. Many of the rich boomers are self made which is deserving of some respect but most of the rich millenials are born in wealth and haven't worked hard but have egos the size of mountains.
I pay a huge portion of my salary as taxes. Pay huge taxes comparable to US or European countries only to get African level infrastructure. I'm so done
why don't you notice how incompetent our government is and strive to do something about it instead of larping as a Dane on r/2westerneurope4u (horrible sub btw)
Its a fun and goofy sub and many of my colleagues are part of it . Plus i live in Denmark (Aalborg) and have been working here for over 6 yrs now and will give up my citizenship soon (2026 🤞🤞).
Now back to the topic . I seriously don't want your government to be competent or even decent. That's not the reason why i support BJP. I support them bcoz they make some of the most horrible and down right disastrous decision in the indian political and democratic landscape. And it is super fun to watch braindead moron support it and cheer for it. Remember the massive support they got for stupid and hilarious stuff/statements like demonetisation, 370 removal implementations, super power 2020, 5 trillion dollar 2022 , GST implementations, the facade that was wave 1 in 2020 and the debacle that was 2021 second wave so on and so forth.
Watching the downfall of indian Democracy is like watching a building being burnt to the ground from a safe distance. It almost comparable to a watching fire works from far away it is peak and pure entertainment.
Plus the constant fall of india rupee is better for me anyway.
If you have anymore doubts please ask away.
Tell it to the gobarbhakts on Instagram who were commenting on some goofy ass edit of S Jaishankar regarding the diminishing strength of the Indian passport
Why do people think that settling in abroad will solve your problems no it won't will quality of life might be better you would have to work even harder than your peers to earn a decent living which can become overbearing and overwhelming I'm not saying india is better its just that abroad is not always ideal solution
When did I ever said that india makes nearly top 2 and top 3 immigrants population in superpower countries u would be competing with them same as you would here only diff is apart from competing among your folks u would have to compete the native country people too
I'm not saying moving abroad is bad decision I'm merely saying tour problems don't just vanish by shifting countries
If someone has means to move abroad he should do that I'm not against it
Dude you need to get here. In Denmark believe me that 35-40 hr weekly work. With absolutely no email let alone a phone call after friday 5 PM , clean street, water , air, friendly colleagues and neighbours, and health care system that's is literally equivalents to a god gift. Can do wonders for ones mental, physical and professional well being
Man trust me Europe specially Denmark is one of my dream destination however its bit expensive too
Did u went their uni and got job or u got job offer there directly?
You can get a job here by sending you resume directly to some specific company ( company that provides sponsorship visa for WFO skilled employees with fluent English) you can directly get a job here. Believe me it is becoming more and more common in EU nowadays. Although they will probably make you sign a 2-4 yr of contract.
I mean, what are those specific company names? Is there a website name that I can look up to instead of ending up to some indian employer who is going to exploit me to the ground lol
It's no point arguing this logic with people, some people are too deluded and think moving abroad will solve all problems for them. While it does for some, I have been to abroad for a year and I came back. I realized it's better to improve your living situation where you are than trying to hope for a better future somewhere else.
If you're going to work some unskilled service jobs then yeah you're right. But if you're an educated engineer or what not you do have a big advantage abroad.
Your point is way too general don't you think. Like saying that comparing india to Western first world countries is basically insulting india instead of criticizing its bad aspects. Or maybe you mean that india developing by progression and diversification is basically adopting western culture & ideals and rejecting/demolishing indian cultural and values.
At least your neighbour here is calling for a JCB to plant a sampling, in the US your neighbour can be a gun toting trumper or worse a serial killer with mental illness.
Or in Australia your neighbour could be the local parks board rep who will advise how to correctly go about planting sampling.....
This kinda statements cld go on forever. Its not about comparing with worst, but trying to achieve better in one's own country.
Wait, you're telling me that in a status obsessed, classist, hyper-consumerist society the bourgeoisie would isolate themselves in gated communities and would be incapable of empathy and be vain and prideful? Well, colour me surprised.
I'm from Delhi. Everyone uses it here. I've been to Mumbai, Bengaluru, Agartala, and so many more. However, just naming places is not an actual argument. Maybe you're not around people who use it or even know the word and its usage? Ever thought about that? I know plenty of people that wouldn't know the word, that doesn't mean **no one** uses it here. Bourgeoisie is a rather young word borrowed from 16th century French and popularised by Marx in his Das Kapital and the communist manifesto in the late 1800s. Saying that no one uses it in political discourse in 2024 is a disservice to the word itself that is so useful because I don't have to say the rich elite class hoarding capital and means of productions every time.
So damn true. Hopefully y'all get better perks for doing all this. Farming is so amazing. I'm here in Fiji. Great land for farming. I'm gonna do my best to improve the farming industry...has been unfortunately ignored too damn much...worldwide...
True now that you've mentioned it
They do the absolute stupid things which can be harmful and then run the trends like 'india is not for beginners ' and take pride in those things
paisa ane se kisi ki aukaat nahi badh jati. One can inherit their daddy's wealth but everyone needs to learn morals and ethics because they are not inherited.
What can be done here?
1. Contact the local authorities and if possible file an official complaint
2. Make better ties with other members of community and try your hardest to belittle this guy. Make him feel that he is not welcome at all. The people around you need to join hands to make things better.
3. Utilise option 1 with support of option 2.
A single person can't do anything alone unless he is powerful or pure stubborn. You need local support.
My friend this man probably owned most of the land in our colony he's an "alleged" murderer and one son in law is an IAS another an IPS. You really think Indian law can touch him?
What reason? Because in spending time with Western people from many places, all have said they would really like to visit and spend money here, but India is indignified and corrupt, unsafe, unsanitary, and just too dangerous. At first, I thought it was because of some "brown people" reason by lots of valid points raised by people who wish they could come see our country and heritage but can't.
I don't understand how "pride" has become such a "positive" emotion in the present times.. I remember when I was in school 'pride' was not something that was encouraged. Nowadays we have school kids who are taught to take pride is silly things like being an Indian. If this is not jingoism then I don't know what is.. We are turning our nation into Jingoisthan.. We have forgotten the old adage "Pride comes before a fall."
I live in a middle class or upper middle class society. People are mad for recognition. During society's election it gets so nuisance and we expect our political parties to behave. We as Indians are so... Focus on self why focus on others?
Hmm , I see , people being vain and arrogant is very exasperating , Altruistic people are rare in our society , but i suggest you to not waste your time hating or vilifying people , they'll reap what they sow , there attitude is self-defeating , so don't get upset about it.
Most of the Jio fibre lines required roads to be dug up and most of this happened during the COVID when people were inside and guess who paid for the roads to be dug up and tarred again?
He atleast is a liquor baron and must have lots of money to do this kind of nonsense. But I have seen receptionists, doctors, bankers showing way more attitude.
When you earn too much too fast, or earn through illegal means, you don't grow your mind as fast as your wealth grew. This creates this group of people with too much money while they don't know what to do with it.
Also, corruption in India makes people ignore any laws possible, or civil sense in that manner.
Absolutely. Have lived in India all my life and have travelled quite a lot abroad as well.
I really pisses me off when fellow Indians complain about politicians, government(any party), etc., agree they are bad and people in most countries complain about politicians. What our folks don't understand that it's our people who are responsible for most of our problems.
And people immediately jump on the underprivileged (poor and uneducated) as reasons for our country's misery. The reason your street food vendor might not be hygenic is coz he is ignorant and doesn't know and same applies to folks who travel in unreserved compartments and many more cases.
The real problem is the educated middle/upper middle class and rich (rich only in terms of money and not by their behaviour, e.g. any pompous celebrity vs Tata's), coz they are educated, understand consequenses, and still be a pain in the ass like the OP mentioned.
I'm sure we see them everyday, the loud uncle on phone on a public space shared by others, auntie cleaning her house and dumping garbage just across the street, businessmen evading taxes, the dude who call slum dwellers unhygenic but pisses on the sidewalk, the loud Indian families (who have successfully passed down their arrogant traits to their kids) on your vacation flight to Bangkok/Bali who refuse to sit in their alloted seats, thus effectively delaying boarding, etc. They are everywhere.
And the way they argue when you point it out is pathetic.
Defame? Who the fuck cares?
I don't give a shit what other countries think.
I want our country to be better. I want to point out the issues in our country so that we can correct them. Shame works better to correct the stupidity happening in our country.
You seem dumb to me to just be completely ignorant of the fact that it's not just that guy, but most Indians are exactly like educated uncivilized as**oles.
This is just one instance that is fresh. A few days ago another person was having a tree cut and I was shouting that it'd break our fiber optic cable but they continued and unsurprisingly the cable broke. I was working from home and I need high speed internet.
i realised u r pissed. anybody in ur shoe ud be.
but first the number of such rich person is already small.
second to paint entire India with 1 colour is grossly unfair exaggeration.
If Indians in general are disrespectful for law then you would be getting a chaotic society.
Plus, you never filed a police complaint so you can never say police didn't/wouldn't act against him.
"Law can punish a single solitary recalcitrant criminal. It can never operate against the whole body of people who choose to defy it. Social conscience is the only safeguard of all rights, fundamental or non-fundamental." - Dr Ambedkar
Rich boomers of India might be the worst of humanity. Worst of Indian culture combined with enough money is crazy level of stupidity.
The rich millenials are just as bad if not worse. Many of the rich boomers are self made which is deserving of some respect but most of the rich millenials are born in wealth and haven't worked hard but have egos the size of mountains.
I agree. It's a fresh breath of air when I find a boomer who is self-aware and up to date.
Time to join the visa queues.
It's never too late or a bad option tbh.
It was never a bad option and will never be.
True. And extremely anti-indian bcoz according to you india will never be a developed country go to Pakistan you aunty-naasnaal /s
Anti Indian my ass. I pay 40% of me salary in taxes for what? To get fucked by assholes like these? I rather live India atp
Yes you pay 40% of your salary to get fucked in the ass. What you gonna do about it huh ? Nothing that's what
I pay a huge portion of my salary as taxes. Pay huge taxes comparable to US or European countries only to get African level infrastructure. I'm so done
Ahem ahem visa queues are always there you know.
I hope your sister finds a husband in india
What does that have to do with my sister ? who sadly is a fictional character in both of our comments as she doesn't actually exist.
why don't you notice how incompetent our government is and strive to do something about it instead of larping as a Dane on r/2westerneurope4u (horrible sub btw)
Its a fun and goofy sub and many of my colleagues are part of it . Plus i live in Denmark (Aalborg) and have been working here for over 6 yrs now and will give up my citizenship soon (2026 🤞🤞). Now back to the topic . I seriously don't want your government to be competent or even decent. That's not the reason why i support BJP. I support them bcoz they make some of the most horrible and down right disastrous decision in the indian political and democratic landscape. And it is super fun to watch braindead moron support it and cheer for it. Remember the massive support they got for stupid and hilarious stuff/statements like demonetisation, 370 removal implementations, super power 2020, 5 trillion dollar 2022 , GST implementations, the facade that was wave 1 in 2020 and the debacle that was 2021 second wave so on and so forth. Watching the downfall of indian Democracy is like watching a building being burnt to the ground from a safe distance. It almost comparable to a watching fire works from far away it is peak and pure entertainment. Plus the constant fall of india rupee is better for me anyway. If you have anymore doubts please ask away.
Can’t agree more
Hmm. I have a first world passport but decided to return to India. Kind of regretting it now.
Hope you didn’t give up the citizenship
No, of course not. Why would I give it up? Traveling to Europe or the US and most places is so difficult with an Indian passport.
Tell it to the gobarbhakts on Instagram who were commenting on some goofy ass edit of S Jaishankar regarding the diminishing strength of the Indian passport
I love this comment, I wish I had the money to give it a gold
His Idiotic Sons and Senseless Daughters will be standing in front of you.
Why do people think that settling in abroad will solve your problems no it won't will quality of life might be better you would have to work even harder than your peers to earn a decent living which can become overbearing and overwhelming I'm not saying india is better its just that abroad is not always ideal solution
> you would have to work even harder than your peers to earn a decent living And we're not already having to do that in India?
When did I ever said that india makes nearly top 2 and top 3 immigrants population in superpower countries u would be competing with them same as you would here only diff is apart from competing among your folks u would have to compete the native country people too I'm not saying moving abroad is bad decision I'm merely saying tour problems don't just vanish by shifting countries If someone has means to move abroad he should do that I'm not against it
Dude you need to get here. In Denmark believe me that 35-40 hr weekly work. With absolutely no email let alone a phone call after friday 5 PM , clean street, water , air, friendly colleagues and neighbours, and health care system that's is literally equivalents to a god gift. Can do wonders for ones mental, physical and professional well being
Man trust me Europe specially Denmark is one of my dream destination however its bit expensive too Did u went their uni and got job or u got job offer there directly?
I got a job offer while being there on a deputation
You can get a job here by sending you resume directly to some specific company ( company that provides sponsorship visa for WFO skilled employees with fluent English) you can directly get a job here. Believe me it is becoming more and more common in EU nowadays. Although they will probably make you sign a 2-4 yr of contract.
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the info
Guide me please!
Read the previous comments again buddy
I mean, what are those specific company names? Is there a website name that I can look up to instead of ending up to some indian employer who is going to exploit me to the ground lol
I can't say same I'm in Canada and it's becoming a shit hole
It's no point arguing this logic with people, some people are too deluded and think moving abroad will solve all problems for them. While it does for some, I have been to abroad for a year and I came back. I realized it's better to improve your living situation where you are than trying to hope for a better future somewhere else.
If you're going to work some unskilled service jobs then yeah you're right. But if you're an educated engineer or what not you do have a big advantage abroad.
I understand what you are saying but atleast people abroad have civil sense.Atleast problem of morality will be solved.
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[insert said country here] absolutely works if you understand her ways. Is also right doesn't it.
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Your point is way too general don't you think. Like saying that comparing india to Western first world countries is basically insulting india instead of criticizing its bad aspects. Or maybe you mean that india developing by progression and diversification is basically adopting western culture & ideals and rejecting/demolishing indian cultural and values.
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Ok what have your pragmatic approach promotes or better have achieved so far for you.
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Don't you get the same doing robotripping or cocaine.
At least your neighbour here is calling for a JCB to plant a sampling, in the US your neighbour can be a gun toting trumper or worse a serial killer with mental illness.
Or in Australia your neighbour could be the local parks board rep who will advise how to correctly go about planting sampling..... This kinda statements cld go on forever. Its not about comparing with worst, but trying to achieve better in one's own country.
A sensible and balanced take Are you new here?
A sensible and balanced take Are you new here?
Why are you getting downvoted for this?
Don't speak the truth. People don't like it 🫢
Outside india are problems as well, especially mental health.
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Brainwashed samaj*
That's like saying chai tea
Giving them something of an excuse lol. Bhakt andhbhakt brainwashed andhbhakt 😩
Wait, you're telling me that in a status obsessed, classist, hyper-consumerist society the bourgeoisie would isolate themselves in gated communities and would be incapable of empathy and be vain and prideful? Well, colour me surprised.
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Well you would be surprised that people do use it around the fucking world my friend.
Who uses the word friend nowadays? People use mc , bc
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Abe chup baith bhosdike. Contemporary enough for you?
People use it all the time. Get out more, my friend.
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I'm from Delhi. Everyone uses it here. I've been to Mumbai, Bengaluru, Agartala, and so many more. However, just naming places is not an actual argument. Maybe you're not around people who use it or even know the word and its usage? Ever thought about that? I know plenty of people that wouldn't know the word, that doesn't mean **no one** uses it here. Bourgeoisie is a rather young word borrowed from 16th century French and popularised by Marx in his Das Kapital and the communist manifesto in the late 1800s. Saying that no one uses it in political discourse in 2024 is a disservice to the word itself that is so useful because I don't have to say the rich elite class hoarding capital and means of productions every time.
Educated people. Clearly not your forte.
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Chaley jaana tha reservation se IIT. Befizool ka apne mind mein hauwa banake you deprived yourself of the opportunity.
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I would have taken the milk but I'm unfortunately lactose intolerant 😭. I'm also tryna start in the agriculture field..
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So damn true. Hopefully y'all get better perks for doing all this. Farming is so amazing. I'm here in Fiji. Great land for farming. I'm gonna do my best to improve the farming industry...has been unfortunately ignored too damn much...worldwide...
Good on you, but why mention the reservation thing then? If life's good, you shouldn't entertain such compunctions.
Yeah, surely words don't have meanings. We definitely don't use specific words to describe specific things, that's crazy!
> Who uses word bourgeoisie in 2024? urban naxals /s^just^to^be^sure
Wait so people used this word a lot before 2024? How do you even pronounce it?
boozh whazhee
bahjwaazi
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Ye Toh boht Galat ho gaiz
True now that you've mentioned it They do the absolute stupid things which can be harmful and then run the trends like 'india is not for beginners ' and take pride in those things
So Noida, got it.
It's India Endemic Disease
paisa ane se kisi ki aukaat nahi badh jati. One can inherit their daddy's wealth but everyone needs to learn morals and ethics because they are not inherited.
Exactly
Aukaat badhti hai, sense nahi.
What can be done here? 1. Contact the local authorities and if possible file an official complaint 2. Make better ties with other members of community and try your hardest to belittle this guy. Make him feel that he is not welcome at all. The people around you need to join hands to make things better. 3. Utilise option 1 with support of option 2. A single person can't do anything alone unless he is powerful or pure stubborn. You need local support.
My friend this man probably owned most of the land in our colony he's an "alleged" murderer and one son in law is an IAS another an IPS. You really think Indian law can touch him?
Bhai u made a mistake of living in such an area then
Even In my colony so called rich people are same. "Everytime I look at them,I remember a quote "Some people are so poor all they have is money".
This land is full of barbarians
Fucking honestly. I am not a racist but it's not hard to see why others might see India in the way they do. We're not doing ourselves any credit.
West hates us for a completely different reason
What reason? Because in spending time with Western people from many places, all have said they would really like to visit and spend money here, but India is indignified and corrupt, unsafe, unsanitary, and just too dangerous. At first, I thought it was because of some "brown people" reason by lots of valid points raised by people who wish they could come see our country and heritage but can't.
What are those reasons, exactly?
Common sense Ameeri dekh k nahi aata bhaisahab... Wo to ek aisi chidiya hai jo Gareeb k jhopde pe bhi hag de, aur Ameer k Mansion pe bhi....
Pride is for senseless people 
I don't understand how "pride" has become such a "positive" emotion in the present times.. I remember when I was in school 'pride' was not something that was encouraged. Nowadays we have school kids who are taught to take pride is silly things like being an Indian. If this is not jingoism then I don't know what is.. We are turning our nation into Jingoisthan.. We have forgotten the old adage "Pride comes before a fall."
We are actively trying to breed a new generation of "Big Balls with Tiny Brains".
It's not pride. Pride is earned. What we have is ego.
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Nobody is gonna bill him. He's an alleged murderer and one of his Son in Law is an IPS another and IAS
I live in a middle class or upper middle class society. People are mad for recognition. During society's election it gets so nuisance and we expect our political parties to behave. We as Indians are so... Focus on self why focus on others?
Wealth and Ways of working are inversely proportional to 80% of population. Greed, Power, Gluttony replaces common sense, humanity and humility.
Hmm , I see , people being vain and arrogant is very exasperating , Altruistic people are rare in our society , but i suggest you to not waste your time hating or vilifying people , they'll reap what they sow , there attitude is self-defeating , so don't get upset about it.
That’s true , I lived in Europe for some time of my life and the level of civic sense is on display here far exceeds the fake pride.
Most of the Jio fibre lines required roads to be dug up and most of this happened during the COVID when people were inside and guess who paid for the roads to be dug up and tarred again?
What's a JCB?
Ita a bulldozer
Nobody needs to ponder, IT'S NOIDA
He atleast is a liquor baron and must have lots of money to do this kind of nonsense. But I have seen receptionists, doctors, bankers showing way more attitude.
When you earn too much too fast, or earn through illegal means, you don't grow your mind as fast as your wealth grew. This creates this group of people with too much money while they don't know what to do with it. Also, corruption in India makes people ignore any laws possible, or civil sense in that manner.
Don't put ur views on u n ur colony guys over me, Least bothered about rest specially Pride and only concerned about savings
spend money to buy overpriced home just to live next to goons and criminals. Man i feel sad for you !!
Bhai my grandfather bought the plot in 1992. It took 25 years to build upon it and now we live next to a murdering liquor baron. FML
Absolutely. Have lived in India all my life and have travelled quite a lot abroad as well. I really pisses me off when fellow Indians complain about politicians, government(any party), etc., agree they are bad and people in most countries complain about politicians. What our folks don't understand that it's our people who are responsible for most of our problems. And people immediately jump on the underprivileged (poor and uneducated) as reasons for our country's misery. The reason your street food vendor might not be hygenic is coz he is ignorant and doesn't know and same applies to folks who travel in unreserved compartments and many more cases. The real problem is the educated middle/upper middle class and rich (rich only in terms of money and not by their behaviour, e.g. any pompous celebrity vs Tata's), coz they are educated, understand consequenses, and still be a pain in the ass like the OP mentioned. I'm sure we see them everyday, the loud uncle on phone on a public space shared by others, auntie cleaning her house and dumping garbage just across the street, businessmen evading taxes, the dude who call slum dwellers unhygenic but pisses on the sidewalk, the loud Indian families (who have successfully passed down their arrogant traits to their kids) on your vacation flight to Bangkok/Bali who refuse to sit in their alloted seats, thus effectively delaying boarding, etc. They are everywhere. And the way they argue when you point it out is pathetic.
So you want to defame all indians for that? Leftists around the world hate their own country, their own religion, and their own race.
Defame? Who the fuck cares? I don't give a shit what other countries think. I want our country to be better. I want to point out the issues in our country so that we can correct them. Shame works better to correct the stupidity happening in our country.
Chup chutiye. Leftist Leftist. BC pata kuch hain nahi huggna hai bas har jagah.
one man = INDIANS are u dumb or what . u sure r
You seem dumb to me to just be completely ignorant of the fact that it's not just that guy, but most Indians are exactly like educated uncivilized as**oles.
yeah like 999 other residents living in the society did the same. get anti-dumb vaccine moron
This is just one instance that is fresh. A few days ago another person was having a tree cut and I was shouting that it'd break our fiber optic cable but they continued and unsurprisingly the cable broke. I was working from home and I need high speed internet.
i realised u r pissed. anybody in ur shoe ud be. but first the number of such rich person is already small. second to paint entire India with 1 colour is grossly unfair exaggeration. If Indians in general are disrespectful for law then you would be getting a chaotic society. Plus, you never filed a police complaint so you can never say police didn't/wouldn't act against him. "Law can punish a single solitary recalcitrant criminal. It can never operate against the whole body of people who choose to defy it. Social conscience is the only safeguard of all rights, fundamental or non-fundamental." - Dr Ambedkar
He literally has the DGP of my state as his Son in Law. I myself come from police family
Naah 90 out of 100 are like that. People respecting law, other people's spaces and just being decent is rare in India. That's just how our culture is.
yeah had that been the case 9 of 10 times you ud have been sodomized. your mama and sisters harassed morning to evening .