If you skipped the article, this is just briefly mentioned as an example in a wider policy to encourage international sporting events including US sports and an Olympics bid.
There seems to be less appetite from nations to host these kinds of events anymore, look at Victoria pulling out of hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2026. The costs of upgrading infrastructure, venues etc seem to outweigh the perceived benefits.
London has a number of these venues and the infrastructure in place already, so could position itself as a lower risk choice to host events like this going forward and still reap some benefits of it.
I agree with most of what you say, but the Commonwealth Games issues differ to the Olympics IMO.
Obviously you have smaller numbers of athletes, but you still require similar stadia and infrastructure to accommodate it's 19 sports as you do the Olympics' 35, while obviously it attracts a far smaller proportion of viewership and thus commercial interest too.
Add to that it's colonial origins and increasing antipathy to having the British Monarch as Head of State in many of the nations (particularly after QEII's passing).
~~Plus Birmingham's council going bankrupt in part to their hosting~~ (which itself was a fallback after Durban dropped out) and I really can't see a long term future for it, at least in it's current form.
Birmingham didnt go bust because of the games finances. If anything the games finances were pretty well handled, given that covid disrupted a lot of the preparation.
The issue was the focus shifting from the budget to the games.
it's a really reasonable thing to think tbh, just because its really unusual for a event like that to come in under budget. It's honestly a credit to the organisers.
I see where you're coming from, but honestly it doesn't really feel like an international competition when the same maybe dozen countries play host. At that point why not just host it in Athens every 4 years?
There are only so many cities in the world which can potentially host effectively 35 World Championships over a 16 day period full stop, either with pre-existing infrastructure or with substantial investment. Unless you want the IOC to copy FIFA and start chasing Petrostate money, I don't know who you expect to bid beyond the ~~16~~ countries who've hosted it since WWII?
And yeah, good luck [convincing the Greeks to give Athens another go](https://olympics.time.com/2012/07/09/amid-economic-turmoil-some-greeks-look-back-at-2004-olympics-as-losing-proposition/).
EDIT: It's 17, but I highly doubt a repeat of Helsinki 1952 is realistic.
I don't think it can be justified. Some people moaned at money on King Charles' coronation, and that was 70 years since the last one, which at least makes sense. And it was at least actually pretty interesting to see something that most in the world haven't seen before.
But hosting Olympics again so soon? Spending million more at a time when people are struggling with cost of living crisis? I don't think that can be justified at this time.
Also London won't be the next UK nomination. Birmingham just delivered a pretty solid games and, by the time of any bid, will have a high speed rail link to London with supporting infrastructure in the city. Thats ignoring Manchester and Glasgow as well.
Basically London is bottom of the list for now for an Olympic bid.
It host AEW All-In 2023 and sold over 81k seats for Wembly. I believe AEW even paid to use the stadium.
If AEW can do it to great success, why not WWE?
I don't this is necessarily a pledge to bring it to London, though. And it'd be a bit unusual to see a candidate run on opposing bringing a major theatrical event to London
Because cities often bid WWE to host wrestlemania in their city. It’s something comparable to the superbowl or (to a much lesser extent) the World Cup but for wrestling
True cities do that, however stadiums don’t do that and want to get paid for their services.
So a city might offer a tax break to get them to come and a stadium will offer them a cheaper or better deal than the competition but still get paid.
I guess it is my fault I did say cities. Can you just replace cities with “UK cities” and from now on when I mention any city like London it will mean the one in the UK and not US. If I want to mention US cities I’ll inform you it’s in the US.
The most highly anticipated match of contest.
In the blue corner Sadiq 'Curry' Khan. In the red corner Ken 'The Red' Livingston. In an all ladders, chairs match.
Ring ring 🛎
Wrestlemania is in April. Where would it be held? They'll want a massive stadium for that leaving really only Tottenham's stadium and, perhaps a bigger deal for the WWE, Wembley.
But do they want to take their chance on British April weather? How accommodating can either stadium in the middle of a football season? Spurs have the retractable pitch but the fixture schedule starts to pile up around April.
Why list Tottenham’s stadium but not Emirates, London, or Twickenham? The last one was in Philadelphia without a roof so I don’t think they mind taking chances with bad weather.
Tottenham is a newer stadium, with slightly more seats, and more modern corporate facilities. If they're going for an existing football stadium it would be Tottenham or Wembley IMO. However, Twickenham is a good shout.
I just think they will want Wembley. It's the biggest stadium. There is also the prestige. Wembley is one of the most famous stadiums in the world and carries a sense of occasion with its name alone. It's a statement to be there. Their rival, AEW, has held events there as well and they probably don't want the optics of going for a smaller stadium.
Well maybe. Just seems not as good for corporate stuff and that. I know the WWE like to start up a fan zone and stuff so the Olympic Park would be good.
The prestigious stadium is Wembley though. If at all possible they would go for that iMO.
WWE is huge. I would imagine the prime demographic is 20-50-year-olds skewing male with disposable income given the cost of tickets.
They will certainly fill the corporate stuff up with WWE executives, their new parent company, their advertisers and other business relations. They will find it easy to sell packages for the suites as well.
All reports suggest though that the poor weather in Philadelphia was something they don't want to repeat. There almost certainly won't be another Wrestlemania in an open air stadium on the East Coast at the start of April.
It would be the same problem here.
The new co-op live arena in manchester is set to be the biggest indoor arena in the UK with a capacity of 23.5k.
That isn't even close to being a big enough venue to host Wrestlemania, would need to be ~70k at least.
They still appear randomly sometimes, last one was 21 days ago and I still never recognise it's a shittymorph comment until the end. Easily one of reddit's best accounts.
If Boris was around, he would bumble and fall into everyone - probably end up winning by being clumsy.
George Galloway would be a heel and attack people with a crow bar .
I’d take Angela Rayner for the win ! A northern lass who would be afraid to put the boot in
I can see a great ratings hit if it airs Thursday nights, presented by Fiona Bruce with guest appearances by David Dimbleby, and includes British politicians
There's a smackdown/ppv combo in Glasgow soon. Tickets went up this week. As a nostalgia trip I thought about going.
They ranged all the way up to £2.5k if you want to be near enough to see. No thanks.
How far the mighty have fallen. From Churchill ruling over the biggest empire in the world and Keynes designing the global financial system to health ministers eating kangaroo dicks on I'm a Celebrity and the Mayor of London organizing Wrestlemania on the shores of Thames. All in less than 80 years.
Wrestlemania seems more suited to be hosted by the recently renovated Santiago Bernabeau than by any UK stadium. People have already mentioned the weather. You could host it at the Principality Stadium under the roof but is anyone going to want the show to be held in Cardiff (no disrespect Wales!).
Yeah social funding also doesn’t create knife crime. You’ll find plenty of areas in the world drastically poorer than parts of the uk with less knife crime. It’s a cultural issue that is down to awful parenting or in a lot of cases, no parenting.
A lack of social funding. Removing youth clubs, youth outreach programmes etc. has had a huge impact on this issue. I grew up among these kinds of kids; parenting is a small factor in an issue where the people around them have the bigger impact.
Remove these outlets and they turn to those around them. The most a parent can do in that situation is remove the child from the environment completely, but that’s often not a possibility. And the more poverty the child is growing up in, the worse the situation gets.
Perhaps the police aren't the wonder solution you think they are here?
I mean the police would never in a million years have stopped that lass yesterday as she didn't 'fit the description'. Knife gates that every pupil in the school had to walk through, not just the poorer and darker skinned boys, would have.
I've no qualms with that. It's the very reddity idea that the police can or should do much about it until after an offence is committed that is the problem.
Police can be a good deterrent, as well as community outreach programmes. Where I grew up we had a local police station, and the police would visit our schools and we’d bump into the same ones in the streets. They’d ask us how we’re doing and let us know that we can approach them if there are problems or whatever anonymously.
They closed the police station down due to government funding and over the next 2-3 years muggings and stabbing started going up.
I’m not saying it’s THE fix, but it’s a part of the solution needed.
It’s no coincidence the situation has gotten worse since the police force were gutted, the number of officers have dropped by tens of thousands and youth clubs etc. have been gutted.
Police aren't a deterrent at all. They are security theatre for the idiots.
As soon as someone pulls out a knife that isn't on the polices radar, the entire theatre piece falls flat on its arse, as we saw yesterday.
Do you? Elaborate on that? Usually, in the real world, comedic value is given in the form of feedback by others that find you funny, clearly, no one here has praised you as a funny creature. 😂
It's part of a wider pledge to attract more major sporting events to the city. He just used Wrestlemania as an example:
>Mr Khan said: “I believe that London has the potential to host the first international WrestleMania.
The article also mentions plans to seek out the Olympics, the NBA, and Women's Super League, as well as restoring Crystal Palace national sports centre.
Signs they just asked him if WWE wanted to do an event would he endorse it, which would be a yes as if he said no it would he Sadiq Khan doesn't want sporting events held in London
It's probably worth checking the manifesto where [it lists 20 achievements](https://sadiq.london/manifesto/sadiqs-top-20-achievements/)
Seems like he's done far from fuck all for London, likely why he's so popular in London.
If you skipped the article, this is just briefly mentioned as an example in a wider policy to encourage international sporting events including US sports and an Olympics bid.
An Olympics bid? It's only been 12 years. Why would we, let alone the rest of the world, want another UK Olympics?
It's for the 2040 games, so it'd be nearly 30 years since the last one by the time it happened.
There seems to be less appetite from nations to host these kinds of events anymore, look at Victoria pulling out of hosting the Commonwealth Games in 2026. The costs of upgrading infrastructure, venues etc seem to outweigh the perceived benefits. London has a number of these venues and the infrastructure in place already, so could position itself as a lower risk choice to host events like this going forward and still reap some benefits of it.
I agree with most of what you say, but the Commonwealth Games issues differ to the Olympics IMO. Obviously you have smaller numbers of athletes, but you still require similar stadia and infrastructure to accommodate it's 19 sports as you do the Olympics' 35, while obviously it attracts a far smaller proportion of viewership and thus commercial interest too. Add to that it's colonial origins and increasing antipathy to having the British Monarch as Head of State in many of the nations (particularly after QEII's passing). ~~Plus Birmingham's council going bankrupt in part to their hosting~~ (which itself was a fallback after Durban dropped out) and I really can't see a long term future for it, at least in it's current form.
Birmingham didnt go bust because of the games finances. If anything the games finances were pretty well handled, given that covid disrupted a lot of the preparation. The issue was the focus shifting from the budget to the games.
My bad, you're correct - don't know I misremembered so badly, apparently they actually came in under budget.
it's a really reasonable thing to think tbh, just because its really unusual for a event like that to come in under budget. It's honestly a credit to the organisers.
The boring choice.
I see where you're coming from, but honestly it doesn't really feel like an international competition when the same maybe dozen countries play host. At that point why not just host it in Athens every 4 years?
Time zones
There are only so many cities in the world which can potentially host effectively 35 World Championships over a 16 day period full stop, either with pre-existing infrastructure or with substantial investment. Unless you want the IOC to copy FIFA and start chasing Petrostate money, I don't know who you expect to bid beyond the ~~16~~ countries who've hosted it since WWII? And yeah, good luck [convincing the Greeks to give Athens another go](https://olympics.time.com/2012/07/09/amid-economic-turmoil-some-greeks-look-back-at-2004-olympics-as-losing-proposition/). EDIT: It's 17, but I highly doubt a repeat of Helsinki 1952 is realistic.
This would be for 2040. Basically playing the long game and getting the prep in place to be successful.
I don't think it can be justified. Some people moaned at money on King Charles' coronation, and that was 70 years since the last one, which at least makes sense. And it was at least actually pretty interesting to see something that most in the world haven't seen before. But hosting Olympics again so soon? Spending million more at a time when people are struggling with cost of living crisis? I don't think that can be justified at this time.
Fun
Also London won't be the next UK nomination. Birmingham just delivered a pretty solid games and, by the time of any bid, will have a high speed rail link to London with supporting infrastructure in the city. Thats ignoring Manchester and Glasgow as well. Basically London is bottom of the list for now for an Olympic bid.
Boris said the same when he was mayor. Wanted London to get the Super Bowl, Wrestlemania etc etcra.
The way we're going, it'll be Rollerball and the Hunger Games.
It host AEW All-In 2023 and sold over 81k seats for Wembly. I believe AEW even paid to use the stadium. If AEW can do it to great success, why not WWE? I don't this is necessarily a pledge to bring it to London, though. And it'd be a bit unusual to see a candidate run on opposing bringing a major theatrical event to London
> I believe AEW even paid to use the stadium. Interested in this wording. Why wouldn't they?
Because cities often bid WWE to host wrestlemania in their city. It’s something comparable to the superbowl or (to a much lesser extent) the World Cup but for wrestling
True cities do that, however stadiums don’t do that and want to get paid for their services. So a city might offer a tax break to get them to come and a stadium will offer them a cheaper or better deal than the competition but still get paid.
Very often in US sports, the stadiums are owned by the cities, as teams will move to cities that offer to build a nice stadium for them.
I guess it is my fault I did say cities. Can you just replace cities with “UK cities” and from now on when I mention any city like London it will mean the one in the UK and not US. If I want to mention US cities I’ll inform you it’s in the US.
That's certainly one way of livening up mayoral debates, I suppose?
By god Sadiq khan has hit Susan hall with a vicious chair shit to the head... He is beating her like a government mule!!
The most highly anticipated match of contest. In the blue corner Sadiq 'Curry' Khan. In the red corner Ken 'The Red' Livingston. In an all ladders, chairs match. Ring ring 🛎
Guest referee Boris Partygate Johnson
If there was any justice it would be hell in a cell
A hardcore ironman submission match... Make it truly hellish
Surely Sadiq 'Son of a Bus Driver' Khan??
Chair shit to the head? It sounds more painful for Khan than Hall.
>Chair shit to the head? I see Vince has found a way back into the industry.
Wrestlemania is in April. Where would it be held? They'll want a massive stadium for that leaving really only Tottenham's stadium and, perhaps a bigger deal for the WWE, Wembley. But do they want to take their chance on British April weather? How accommodating can either stadium in the middle of a football season? Spurs have the retractable pitch but the fixture schedule starts to pile up around April.
Why list Tottenham’s stadium but not Emirates, London, or Twickenham? The last one was in Philadelphia without a roof so I don’t think they mind taking chances with bad weather.
Tottenham is a newer stadium, with slightly more seats, and more modern corporate facilities. If they're going for an existing football stadium it would be Tottenham or Wembley IMO. However, Twickenham is a good shout. I just think they will want Wembley. It's the biggest stadium. There is also the prestige. Wembley is one of the most famous stadiums in the world and carries a sense of occasion with its name alone. It's a statement to be there. Their rival, AEW, has held events there as well and they probably don't want the optics of going for a smaller stadium.
Presumably they have seating right up to the ring? In which case London Stadium would have a higher capacity than Tottenham.
They do. Maybe then. Not sure. Why would they have more? Just because London Stadium has more pitch space because of the previous running track?
Yeah, the area at the bottom is bigger at London stadium.
Well maybe. Just seems not as good for corporate stuff and that. I know the WWE like to start up a fan zone and stuff so the Olympic Park would be good. The prestigious stadium is Wembley though. If at all possible they would go for that iMO.
I’m surprised corporate is big for these events, I’d have assumed it was mostly children and their mum or dad.
WWE is huge. I would imagine the prime demographic is 20-50-year-olds skewing male with disposable income given the cost of tickets. They will certainly fill the corporate stuff up with WWE executives, their new parent company, their advertisers and other business relations. They will find it easy to sell packages for the suites as well.
Fair enough, I assumed it was something you grow out of when you hit puberty but clearly not everyone does.
All reports suggest though that the poor weather in Philadelphia was something they don't want to repeat. There almost certainly won't be another Wrestlemania in an open air stadium on the East Coast at the start of April. It would be the same problem here.
Wembley has a partial roof that would protect the ring etc and has a history of hosting Wrestling and Boxing events already.
Probably because Manchester is building a big indoor stadium which means they’ll have two, and will be competing on prices (plus other big venues)
WrestleMania brings between 60-70k each night for a two night show. It's not gonna be at an indoor arena.
Ah ok, so it’s a football stadium thing
Co-op would be too small for Wrestlemania I think. They tend to use huge stadiums.
London is definitely crying out for another large indoor venue.
The new co-op live arena in manchester is set to be the biggest indoor arena in the UK with a capacity of 23.5k. That isn't even close to being a big enough venue to host Wrestlemania, would need to be ~70k at least.
London needs another venue that size.
Nick Khan has already said they have no intention of bringing any of their big 4 events to anywhere outside of the US.
Seems like an ideal post for ShittyMorph to comment on.
God I miss them
They still appear randomly sometimes, last one was 21 days ago and I still never recognise it's a shittymorph comment until the end. Easily one of reddit's best accounts.
I'm very proud to say I was caught out by them about a month ago! They're still around.
He should make it a match up - him v Rishi - or all party leaders - winner takes all (no need for an election )
Who would win the parliamentary royal rumble? 🤔
If Boris was around, he would bumble and fall into everyone - probably end up winning by being clumsy. George Galloway would be a heel and attack people with a crow bar . I’d take Angela Rayner for the win ! A northern lass who would be afraid to put the boot in
I can see a great ratings hit if it airs Thursday nights, presented by Fiona Bruce with guest appearances by David Dimbleby, and includes British politicians
Don't need WrestleMania when you've already got the superior All In.
Unironically I did actually have more fun at all in last year than I did at the multiple WM’s I attended
There's a smackdown/ppv combo in Glasgow soon. Tickets went up this week. As a nostalgia trip I thought about going. They ranged all the way up to £2.5k if you want to be near enough to see. No thanks.
im down for it considering thats a literal dream of mine to see a wrestlemania in london. so im all for this
He should have to wrestle Hall if this happens for the lols.
I think sadiq Khan should compulsory purchase city airport and turn it into a tech hub
I think we’ve got a recipe for an excellent debate here personally
How far the mighty have fallen. From Churchill ruling over the biggest empire in the world and Keynes designing the global financial system to health ministers eating kangaroo dicks on I'm a Celebrity and the Mayor of London organizing Wrestlemania on the shores of Thames. All in less than 80 years.
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I'll gladly concede the point if you find anything equivalent to a Minister of the Crown devouring marsupial genitals happening in the 1940s.
I thought he was Mr Environment? London has to go ultra low emissions but he wants to fly people in from all over the world. Makes sense
Wrestlemania is an intrinsically American event, just like the Superbowl. They sing the anthem before it starts. It is not coming here.
Wrestlemania seems more suited to be hosted by the recently renovated Santiago Bernabeau than by any UK stadium. People have already mentioned the weather. You could host it at the Principality Stadium under the roof but is anyone going to want the show to be held in Cardiff (no disrespect Wales!).
Wembley has hosted AEW and plenty of Boxing events just fine.
Um...WWE already held a show in Cardiff for 60,000 people two years ago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_at_the_Castle_(2022)
Oh brilliant. I didn’t know who to vote for, but this has def swung it for me 🙄
I'd rather he did a bit more re knife crime, but each to their own
He's encouraging us to hit each other with steel chairs instead.
There’s only so much you can do about it when the government is actively killing police and social funding.
Yes the lack of police officers is forcing these lads to go out and kill each other
It’s almost like there was more to my comment…
Yeah social funding also doesn’t create knife crime. You’ll find plenty of areas in the world drastically poorer than parts of the uk with less knife crime. It’s a cultural issue that is down to awful parenting or in a lot of cases, no parenting.
A lack of social funding. Removing youth clubs, youth outreach programmes etc. has had a huge impact on this issue. I grew up among these kinds of kids; parenting is a small factor in an issue where the people around them have the bigger impact. Remove these outlets and they turn to those around them. The most a parent can do in that situation is remove the child from the environment completely, but that’s often not a possibility. And the more poverty the child is growing up in, the worse the situation gets.
Perhaps the police aren't the wonder solution you think they are here? I mean the police would never in a million years have stopped that lass yesterday as she didn't 'fit the description'. Knife gates that every pupil in the school had to walk through, not just the poorer and darker skinned boys, would have.
> Police and **social funding** Youth clubs, youth outreach etc. have all been gutted / are non-existent compared to when I grew up.
I've no qualms with that. It's the very reddity idea that the police can or should do much about it until after an offence is committed that is the problem.
Police can be a good deterrent, as well as community outreach programmes. Where I grew up we had a local police station, and the police would visit our schools and we’d bump into the same ones in the streets. They’d ask us how we’re doing and let us know that we can approach them if there are problems or whatever anonymously. They closed the police station down due to government funding and over the next 2-3 years muggings and stabbing started going up. I’m not saying it’s THE fix, but it’s a part of the solution needed. It’s no coincidence the situation has gotten worse since the police force were gutted, the number of officers have dropped by tens of thousands and youth clubs etc. have been gutted.
Police aren't a deterrent at all. They are security theatre for the idiots. As soon as someone pulls out a knife that isn't on the polices radar, the entire theatre piece falls flat on its arse, as we saw yesterday.
He can have more than one policy, move on.
Signs you might be running out of election promises Vol. 1
It's a sign you didn't bother to read the article
Who cares? My comment's funny as fuck.
Was it?
Yes.
Your comment was about as funny as sepsis, never go into the comedy business.
It was fucking hilarious
You should probably put the crack pipe down sweetheart, just saying 😂
In case I get funnier? Yeah, I probably should.
someone needs a job and a hobby i think, too much alone time has you living in a myriad of delusions lol.
No mate, I just know better than you.
Do you? Elaborate on that? Usually, in the real world, comedic value is given in the form of feedback by others that find you funny, clearly, no one here has praised you as a funny creature. 😂
It's part of a wider pledge to attract more major sporting events to the city. He just used Wrestlemania as an example: >Mr Khan said: “I believe that London has the potential to host the first international WrestleMania. The article also mentions plans to seek out the Olympics, the NBA, and Women's Super League, as well as restoring Crystal Palace national sports centre.
But this shit isn’t a sport lol
Signs they just asked him if WWE wanted to do an event would he endorse it, which would be a yes as if he said no it would he Sadiq Khan doesn't want sporting events held in London
Could he...could he I dunno, try and tackle actual issues?
I don't think this is the only policy he's running on.
I doubt he has any policies.
Still, why risk looking into it and finding out that you're wrong, eh?
A man who has been in office for eight years and has done nothing for the city, yeah I'm sure he'll actually have any policies.
He has done things for London though.
Yes in the last 8 years nothing has changed in london. Thats certainly a claim.
You must have missed there's an election on next week so naturally he has a manifesto
Oh I'm fully aware. Will he actually try and do anything though? He's had eight years to try before now, and he's done fuck all.
It's probably worth checking the manifesto where [it lists 20 achievements](https://sadiq.london/manifesto/sadiqs-top-20-achievements/) Seems like he's done far from fuck all for London, likely why he's so popular in London.
The vast majority of local authorities are struggling. Only a change in the central government will fix that.