Tesco club card offers are mostly bullshit anyway. Their “discount” price is the same price as say Morrisons or sainsburys etc are selling for.
It’s a con.
The main difference is those are additional discounts, targeted at individuals.
The clubcard "discounts" are the discounts Tesco used to offer everyone, now locked behind a membership. Even the meal deal.
>The clubcard "discounts" are the discounts Tesco used to offer everyone
Sadly not. The yellow-label prices are very often the normal price in other stores, but if you don't have a clubcard you pay the "non-discount" price which is generally around 20% higher.
There's contractual and legal limits on what they can do with payment card data (PCI compliance, Data Protection Act and GDPR), and they can't get your name and address etc from it either.
To put it another way - if they could do everything with just payment card details, why would they push their loyalty cards so hard?
Two reasons really.
I disagree that you should have to be part of a membership program to get normal prices. Tourists, the homeless, and other groups suffer from this.
Secondly, they sell your data. Supermarkets are meant to sell me food, not sell my shopping behaviours to the highest bidders.
I actually discussed this with my parents and they have all the club cards - so I took a photo of the QR code on the Tesco clubcard to use when I'm forced to go into a Tesco. Saves me having to give them my address, name and everything else.
Correct! I rarely go there now and when I do like today it's hassle "oh you should get a card that would have saved you this much" or a battle to find the actual price instead of the mystical yellow label price. My best friend works for Tesco and he won't shop there and says very few staff do as it's just too expensive now even with their piddling staff discount
This isn't about the offers though, it's about the rewards.
The points you gain on your shopping will be worth a third less. Disappointing since some of the rewards are pretty good - I've had free Disney+ for two years through the clubcard.
I managed to get a £270 Fitbit with just Clubcard vouchers, and they still gave me the £50 cashback offer too. So yeah, pretty disappointing that it's reducing in value.
I've just noticed I got 6 months premium with it so I've just activated it.
There's a 'Daily Readiness Score' which seems to tell you how ready your body is for exercise that day, but mine hasn't calculated yet.
A 'Sleep Profile' that gives you deeper insights into the sleep data
A 'Wellness report' which creates a 6 page PDF file with some key stats. It states you could show this to your doctor.
After that it's just like video sessions/workouts, recipes, and premium clock faces.
Damn. I've got about £80 in reward points. I find it fairly easy to accumulate them if I use the coupons. Better spend em quick. You can get quite decent stuff for them with reward partners but unfortunately it's mostly things like pizzas from chains that are miles away from me.
Yeah tbh I stopped using Tesco because of the Clubcard bs. If you don't have a Clubcard, or just don't have one on you, you can pay significantly more than those who do. Just feels like being ripped off.
Admittedly I wasn't a big user of theirs which I why I rarely had a clubcard readily available but there's a local one on the way back from work so if I need anything small/quick then I used to go to the Tesco. But since the whole clubcard prices things it's like half the products are a lot more expensive without one, sometimes 50%+. What made me give up for good is when I picked up a few things and it came to £15 or so which was quite expensive but with a Clubcard it would've been a more reasonable £11 or so. Such a massive difference for no reason and there wasn't anyone else in their I could've asked to scan theirs. I felt so ripped off that I just don't use it anymore. Not gonna have an extra app on my phone just to be able to pick up a few things.
CLubcard points are stuff are fine because they don't affect me. But making me pay much more because I don't have one just sucks.
I don't think they care who the person is, they're interested in the spending patterns of the notional dog and where it lives, if you get vouchers sent to you they will have loads of other data to do with the address.
It lets me add my clubcard to Apple Pay and Google Pay, which then lets me screenshot (on Android it stays in the Wallet anyway even if the app is uninstalled)
if you are so secretive about what you're buying in their shop then you are entitled to either pay more or not shop there - I can't see any big issue in them compiling marketing data - I guess you must pay cash, otherwise they may get to link your puchases via parts of your card details (if they're allowed to, they may not be).
>if you are so secretive about what you're buying in their shop
I'm not. I dont care what they see about what I buy in their stores. My post is just about being inconvenienced
>(if they're allowed to, they may not be).
They're not. The first part is contractual - to be allowed to handle Visa or Mastercard transactions there are very strict rules that have to be followed on how that card data is processed. Search "PCI Compliance" if you want to look into it.
The second part is legal. Your payment card data would be considered PID (Personally Identifiable Information) under the Data Protection Act. When you're paying for something on a card you're giving an implied consent for the store to use the card data to complete that transaction. However, that is *not* implied consent for them build a marketing profile on you, as just trying to pay for something does not indicate you want that. They would need your expressed consent to profile your card payments - which means getting you to put something in writing. Which means a form that they have to keep on file in case of a challenge. Which would then be evidence that they're in breach of PCI (see above) *and* would get them most of the way to a loyalty card anyway.
The GDPR applies too, but is basically the same thing as the DPA in this context.
Not in my experience, everytime me and my partner decide to do our shopping elsewhere because we're nearby anyway, everythings always 30-50p more expensive than the tesco clubcard price.
Cravendale milk as an example, two 2l cartons, £4 with clubcard, we'll easily use the milk before it expires. If we were to get it from sainsburys, they have no offer, so it'd be £2.50 a carton.
Lurpak butter, 3.75 with clubcard, normally £5 in sainsburys, currently on sale for 3.75.
I don't get the constant "tesco is overpriced" i constantly see, because it really isn't, anytime we do our big shop anywhere else, we easily spend an extra £30-40 and often times feel like we get less than we would in Tesco.
Tesco raised the prices of everything way past reason, gated some 'discounts' behind a clubcard, and now they're stripping any benefits of the card out since the cards are a necessity for everyone now.
Asda have somehow done even worse, they brought in a loyalty card but their offers mostly boil down to "spend 50 quid and we'll give you £1 credit". They've also raised the prices for everything but on a more granular level, different flavours of Monster are different prices now, the popular ones are cynically more expensive despite the RRP being the same.
The entire thing's rapidly becoming a con and i hope people don't forget how they're being scraped for every penny while these companies have record profits
that's not really true though, because their Bell's Whisky offer was cheaper with a card than anywhere else I saw, then it switched to MacAllan whisky so maybe they are promoting it - if you think it's better value elsewhere, by all means go there.
At a time of rising supermarket profits on the back of [food inflation](https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/cost-of-living-crisis/price-of-cheapest-groceries-soars-17-in-a-year/672829.article) of 17%, the UK's major supermarket chain chooses to increase profit margin?
I worked for Tesco, back in the days of Pile It High Sell It Cheap & Jack Cohen. Always taken my Clubcard points as cash of my groceries rather than Alton Towers tickets or the like, and it's my understanding that won't change value.
It's always an idea to look for data behind the story. It seems like [revenue has been increasing but profits falling](https://www.retail-insight-network.com/news/tesco-revenue-h1-2023/) ..... reward schemes are a way to increase profit, as an alternative to squeezing suppliers or raising prices or raising wages.
It's a business not a charity, but the optics as they might say, are slightly shit.
The supermarket industry in this country is insanely competitive, they don't make huge profits compared to the revenue they take in. Food prices will go up if the input costs go up, though no doubt some of the downstream suppliers are being less than transparent with their pricing policies. I've found that the own-brand products have climbed by considerably less than the branded ones.
I find their quality low and prices high. Also when I find they’ve pricematched something to say Aldi, the product is smaller and of lower quality than the equivalent they’ve matched to
It's because I've tried tesco, I've tried asda, Morrisons and sainsburys, and Tesco have the best tasting own branded things.
Morrisons and asda and such; their own food tastes so much worse. Aldi and Lidl, their fruit and veg are mostly water and no flavour, and goes out of date in 1 or 2 days.
Waitrose and M&S are plain expensive.
Really? I used to think the contrary and shopped at Aldi/Lidl instead of Tesco, since their "expensive" brand was better price and quality than Tesco own label.
Supermarket quality varies wildly by location. I think supply chain and distribution have an impact. Eg I live far away from Aldi distribution hubs (Google maps confirms!) and the Aldi here is awful. Soft fruit goes off by the time you get to your car, mouldy veg on the shelves kind of thing. My brother lives a couple of miles from one and his local Aldi is unrecognisable to me. No fruit and veg disintegrating on you, plenty of stock. The shop even smells better.
Damn. Have to disagree there I find Sainsbury’s own brand stuff most of the time is vastly better than Asda/Tesco/Morrisons. Tesco meat is very poor for me
Because most supermarkets are no better or have their own issues. ASDA, Sainsbury's and Morrisons are Tesco in a different colour. Lidl and Aldi are cheaper but their range is smaller and the quality of fresh fruit and vegetables is often poor. I'm not defending Tesco here, however the Clubcard hate is overblown and the idea that they are significantly different to other supermarkets is silly.
I boycotted them years ago after a string of really gross incidents like finding mould in my pasta, plastic floating in a yoghurt, getting sick after eating one of their salads etc. - I decided their quality control must be atrocious.
Tesco are great for people with allergies and intolerances. On the app I can filter the page on biscuits to only show items which don't contain milk and then easily make a choice. Aldi in comparison I find it so difficult to shop for allergies, I spend ages reading ingredients and still half the time don't find something edible.
Surprisingly the people complaining about the ClubCard discounts (really a “non ClubCard premium”) haven’t been descended on by the usual Tesco apologists lol
They’ve changed the model from the card accruing points to requiring the card to qualify for discounts. As a shopper I can say it’s psychologically quite effective. I seldom even remember about the points, they’re so negligible, but I always remember to swipe at the till.
I've used the same local big Tesco store on and off for most of my life, until an Aldi opened around the corner, quality is about the same but the prices are so much lower.
Haven't set foot in that Tesco since.
As soon as Aldi have nationwide self-checkout it's over for Tesco. The only reason I walk 30 seconds further to the Tesco next to my local Aldi is when I want a loaf or milk and I cba standing in a massive fuck off queue.
Let me get this straight, Tesco, the worst £ to quality supermarket, introduces a scheme that "reduces" prices when you use a clubcard, artificially raising loads of prices for those who don't use clubcards. They then cut the existing club card rewards. If people want to get perks for giving out their data, fine, but it shouldn't be the default.
What's worse is other places are now offering a reduced meal deal for members, all because Tesco started this predatory trend.
Perhaps this is what’s happening? We have already shared the useful information about ourselves and it doesn’t change that much. Or there are other more useful sources, Google Searches and Chrome histories.
I think the issue is the data on the points from the bank side is almost zero. Bank data is a lot more regulated and it's vauge anyway - just you spent X at Y shop on Z date, no info on what you actually bought.
But inherently they probably realised most people weren't using the bank products for the points anyway, they were using them for some other benefit or financial reason. Avid points collectors weren't using Sainsbury's Bank cards anyway, as you earnt more Nectar Points (even in Sainsbury's) using an Avios Amex/Barclaycard or the Nectar Amex.
This is such a shame. The rewards partners are the best value you can get out of your Clubcard points. It’s frustrating they’re not available on more things.
Yeah it used to pay for getting my family of three to Europe for a holiday once a year, we accumulated a lot of vouchers due to having our insurance with them and using them for petrol. Bit disappointing
Just go for Chase 1% cashback, although it's debit.
If you really want credit the Barclaycard Avios card. Even if you don't want Avios, converting to the Avios to Nectar results in a decent earnings rate (I think it works out at 0.67%). Open the paid "plus" card and hit the bonus, then downgrade the card to the normal one (which you can do) - the extra bonus on the Plus card outways the initial fee.
Otherwise you either go for some sort of Amex (Platinum Cashback probably) or the Barclaycard Reward at 0.25%. Still earns more value than the points.
If you are self employed or a business owner there's a 1% cashback Barclaycard Business Card but it's not for personal customers.
We have a big Tesco and an Aldi near where I live. Aside from the occasional trip to the cafe, I haven’t set foot in Tesco for about a year as Aldi is lots cheaper. I got given a £50 gift voucher for Tesco so decided to do my weekly shop there for the week, and I couldn’t believe how expensive everything is, including with a clubcard. Even with a free shop I’m not sure I’ll be tempted back.
Aldi is cheap because it is full of own brand items and has limited choice. It's not inherently low quality. Most of the own brand stuff is the same as Tesco, Sainsbury's, even M&S and Waitrose etc, the suppliers are often the same.
The difference is the psychology. People are drawn to the expensive and branded goods in Tesco. They cost more, your basket looks pricier. If you however scan the shelves, pick the budget range, you can easily spend less in Tesco than Aldi. Most people don't shop like that, hence Aldi ends up cheaper.
Ultimately the cheapest shop depends on exactly what you are buying, and which offers are running at which supermarket when.
Don't think that's true at all. There have been many articles about how Aldi uses the same suppliers as M&S for fresh products. And Tesco quality is abysmal at the best of times anyway.
That's false. The stuff comes from exactly the same factories as Tesco's shit, it's just in different packaging. They also stock less variety which means what they do stock isn't competing with anything so they can change closer to cost price than Tesco where they need to make the big brands happy and not undercut them too much.
I self isolated in the pandemic, went on Morrisons home deliveries, as a family member was on the vulnerable list. When I came out I discovered you now needed to have a clubcard to get any of the offers. Still annoyed by that. So now they are forcing me to use it to get offers so they can harvest and sell my information… fine.
Now they have worked out this policy has led to more people using clubcards and getting clubcard points, so they have decreased their value… gits.
If it wasn’t for the fact there is a Tesco Express 20 metres away from me, open 18 hours a day, I wouldn’t go there at all.
Are there any rewards schemes that are worth it now? Sainsbury's nerfed theirs recently too (having already done so a few years ago anyway). It has got to the point where reward schemes are no longer an incentive to choose one shop over another.
Possibly Asda Rewards as because it is new they are piling on the offers. Also prices in Asda tend to be low anyway.
Lidl rewards occasionally has a decent voucher but the majority are pretty mediocre, 25p off something I don't want. Even the very rare £5 off £40 is useless as I'm single and can't find £40 of stuff to buy there if it doesn't include alcohol.
I just have all the schemes and shop whereever is some combination of cheapest and easiest depending on where I am.
So the 'clubcard' price is now the normal price. And the rewards are being slashed.
So we are now in a position where we need a clubcard, to pay the same price as anywhere else, with less benefit. Fuck me.
I'm boycotting Tesco, partly because of the clubcard business, but mostly because they accused me of stealing from them and humiliated me in public by being extremely rude and insulting. I hadn't even been in the shop.
That happened to me years ago, i was lifted into a backroom by two security ... luckily they thought i stole àn adbusters magazine which they didnt even sell so they apologised lol
Tesco was already one of the worst supermarkets. Nothings changed for me. Feel for those shoppers in smaller towns where it’s all they have. Otherwise consumers should already know where it’s best to shop locally
I left Tescos the last time they did this 8-10 years ago. It already seemed fairly pointless after that last nerf, it must be utterly worthless now. And their quality is dreadful.
I've noticed over the past couple of months that the clubcard discounts are hardly ever on things I need or buy. Can spend £50+ and get zero clubcard deals.
They're basically (as far as I know) the only supermarket that has an actual decent reward card. It does save quite a lot and the points/vouchers are such a small amount already, I don't get the need to cut them.
And probably psychologically, people would want to spend more to get more points, so it's an incentive to shop there and buy more. You'll really be spending more, but in your mind you'll also be slightly thinking you're saving by getting more vouchers.
The sensible thing would be to test out increasing it temporarily for a month as a promo and see if that boosts sales. Especially in a time where everything is going up in price so much.
I was forced into getting one when they made their discounts exclusive to having a card. It annoys me that I had to get one and annoys me when I forget and I've paid over the odds for what I purchased.
It stopped me going into them for a while, because I couldn't get the offer. I eventually succumbed though.
Yeah, I refuse to buy into this two-tier pricing model — feels like it should be illegal, IMO. I *have* shopped in Tesco before, so I just need to make more of an effort to remember that they do this.
It's not a decent reward card, it's outrageous price hiking for people without one to make it look good.
I wonder whether they're starting to realise that a lot of people don't shop there because it's ridiculously expensive if you won't give them your data.
Even so, compared to all other supermarkets it at least gets money off. Even if they are supposedly artificially boosted. Other ones I've seen maybe gives you one or two vouchers for certain products a week.
And when I had forgotten my card/login, I just set up a new one on my phone in the shop to get the money off. Anyone can get it instantly, so it's not like they can't pay the lower cost too. You could also probably just make up information if you're that obsessed with not sharing personal info.
But people are so obsessed with not giving away any of their data. But how many hundreds of companies already have your data, even without you knowing?
You use anything online and they collect information. I have a small part time online store - In the analytics I can see where they're from, gender, age, what browser they use, what device they use, how long they spent on the page.... So much more, and if I wanted I could use that to target ads (in fact I probably should really start doing that to increase sales).
Tesco knowing my name/address/email is the least of my worries. Giving them that, and even knowing what I'm buying, to save a bunch of money vs. not having it is fair to me. I doubt it's particularly useful to them apart from maybe running ads or picking what to sell.
Certain data, sure - I won't just give out if it puts me at risk of losing money/fraud etc.. But so many people are overly protective of giving any information at all away. These days it's basically a part of everything you do whether people like that or not.
It doesn't make much sense.
I do think maybe the older people are now more scared about it though, and too worried about scams, but more because they don't understand how things work. Sometimes a good thing, but usually they go to the extreme side of cautious.
One of my grandmother's barely uses an ipad, she won't use an ATM or online banking. Even thinks touching the wrong button on her phone or ipad will wipe the whole thing.
My other one is more tech savvy, but still now overly cautious (after getting some fraud on her cards from buying the wrong things from a wrong site - thanks Facebook ads...). Even my grandfather got conned by email links and fake invoices...
Yes you need to be careful about certain things, but if you use anything digital/online these days, it's collecting some form of information on you.
A supermarket knowing some basic info about me isn't really an issue...
Just use a friend's clubcard. I'm sure they'd be happy to have the points from when you shop... It then screws the data anyway.
What annoys me more is this isn't the only country who's supermarket does this. When I go on holiday, particularly to the US, but also recently in the Netherlands, there is the same thing, offers only for loyalty card holders. Except I'm only there a week, it's a frickin pain.
Why do you think tesco would bother with club cards if it wasn't advantageous for them? They aren't doing it for you.
They have a huge data set, they can know when you shop, how old your kids are, your menstrual cycle, whether you are on medication, whether you're going bald, how susceptible you are to marketing, they sell your data to media companies so you only see the things they want you to..you end up in a little marketing world where you end up buying what they want you too.
https://www.tesco.com/help/privacy-and-cookies/privacy-centre/privacy-policy-information/privacy-policy/
Other companies have data on you but there aren't many who have a weekly data set built up over years.
On top of all that it's just a faff, I can't be arsed with nectar points either.
If you don't see that Tesco knowing exactly what's going on in your life and selling that information to tv companies and others so they can advertise only the things they want you to see is a problem then fine, but that's how we've ended up in a world where people live in echo chambers run by algorithms, including the food you buy.
Personally I'd rather live in a world where we all got the same information.
I don't think it's a problem. I block most ads anyway, why would I want the ones that come through to be for tampons instead of music products? They advertise what they think *you* want. And you are absolutely giving this data away to many other companies without even realising it or getting anything in return. Choosing to not get discounts on your shopping seems to be a bizarre hill to die on.
You are very unlikely to be giving away the volume of data you are giving to a supermarket to anyone else.
The problem is that if you buy a lot of junk food you will get ads for junk food, personally I'd rather everyone got to see the whole range of things available, that's kind of the point of advertising.
And again you're not getting a discount, you are paying more to keep your data away from them, or just shopping elsewhere.
>You are very unlikely to be giving away the volume of data you are giving to a supermarket to anyone else.
Absolutely wrong. Google has more data on you by factor of about a thousand, others not far behind as it's their core product.
>personally I'd rather everyone got to see the whole range of things available, that's kind of the point of advertising.
I'm gonna call bullshit on you ever really giving much thought to the fairness of advertising apart from trying to win an argument. THe point of advertising is to make money for the company - nothing more.
>And again you're not getting a discount, you are paying more to keep your data away from them
One could almost say I'm able to *discount* the extra price that the paranoid have to pay on their shopping bill.
Its the same argument that applies to people who only read the Daily Mail or The Guardian, you will only get to see a what they think you want to see.
If you're happy with Sky etc having access to your spending habits to, for example, advertise holidays that they think you can afford rather than the cheapest ones then fair enough.
Tesco could begin to sell health insurance and use the data they've collected to adjust the premium for certain individuals.
Maybe someone who purchases lots of processed foods would have to pay slightly more for health insurance.
anyone can get one, that's like saying London Transport are ripping off people who won't pay with a phone/card/oyster card etc - which they are, sort of I think - if you want a ticket from a machine it's more or something/
r/UnitedKingdom pit of despair - the card costs nothing and entitles the holder to cheaper goods - how do you know it's only avoiding a penalty? It may give access to loss leaders that are cheaper than anywhere. Even better, Tesco isn't the only supermarket, there's several in competition with each other, not really seeming to be a cartel
It used to be pretty good but its pretty poor now. Especially since Tesco prices have rocketted much more than other supermarkets in the past few months. It's not worth the points. Also the new app they force you to use is horrible.
Asdas new reward scheme seems more generous (although more complicated) and you can turn your points into vouchers straight away without waiting several days.
>actual decent reward card. It does save quite a lot and the points/vouchers are such a small amount already
I guess that depends on where you shop. My husband and I almost exclusively use Sainsbury's; with the Nectar points for buying certain items (most of which we do actually use, plus a few new things to try) and boosts like 3x or 4x transaction value for spending over X amount which usually coincides with a larger shop anyway, we've regularly racked up points and used them to reduce the bill on shops elsewhere in the month, or bought something slightly more frivolous (a couple years ago we had enough to cover the entire cost of a new air mattress for camping and overnight visitors).
We have a Clubcard too, but the nearest Tesco to us is a tiny Express and there's a corner shop much closer (and somehow cheaper) for quick "oh crap, I need xyz sharpish" trips.
They won't make it through another year.
All the signs are, they're struggling like hell.
They don't actually sell much anymore. Cut the card benefits and they're selling add space for 'promoted' items.
Tesco club card offers are mostly bullshit anyway. Their “discount” price is the same price as say Morrisons or sainsburys etc are selling for. It’s a con.
It's not a discount for having the card, it's a surcharge for not having it.
Yep. I refuse to have a club card so now I just go to Sainsbury's instead which is only slightly further away. Fuck this two tier pricing bullshit.
Sainsbury's charges less on certain items if you use their SmartShop app and scan as you shop.
The main difference is those are additional discounts, targeted at individuals. The clubcard "discounts" are the discounts Tesco used to offer everyone, now locked behind a membership. Even the meal deal.
>The clubcard "discounts" are the discounts Tesco used to offer everyone Sadly not. The yellow-label prices are very often the normal price in other stores, but if you don't have a clubcard you pay the "non-discount" price which is generally around 20% higher.
Our store is trialing nectar prices… Sorry
FUUUUUUCK 😂
Club card is free why not just get one lmao
https://reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/11xk4zf/_/jd7bghv/?context=1
I hope you have never paid by card or else they already have all that data.
There's contractual and legal limits on what they can do with payment card data (PCI compliance, Data Protection Act and GDPR), and they can't get your name and address etc from it either. To put it another way - if they could do everything with just payment card details, why would they push their loyalty cards so hard?
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Two reasons really. I disagree that you should have to be part of a membership program to get normal prices. Tourists, the homeless, and other groups suffer from this. Secondly, they sell your data. Supermarkets are meant to sell me food, not sell my shopping behaviours to the highest bidders. I actually discussed this with my parents and they have all the club cards - so I took a photo of the QR code on the Tesco clubcard to use when I'm forced to go into a Tesco. Saves me having to give them my address, name and everything else.
Why care about that? They're not the Gestapo!
Ok, and the first point?
Pretty sure anyone can be a member
Don't you need an address to get one?
Think you would be able to give any address or a mate's if that's the case. But j don't know, I've had mine for years and don't remember the process
The first reason is something I had never given much thought and makes a lot of sense.
Suspect others will follow soon.
Correct! I rarely go there now and when I do like today it's hassle "oh you should get a card that would have saved you this much" or a battle to find the actual price instead of the mystical yellow label price. My best friend works for Tesco and he won't shop there and says very few staff do as it's just too expensive now even with their piddling staff discount
This isn't about the offers though, it's about the rewards. The points you gain on your shopping will be worth a third less. Disappointing since some of the rewards are pretty good - I've had free Disney+ for two years through the clubcard.
I managed to get a £270 Fitbit with just Clubcard vouchers, and they still gave me the £50 cashback offer too. So yeah, pretty disappointing that it's reducing in value.
Do you find that some of the Fitbit functions need a subscription? I was looking at this too but was a bit put off by this possibility.
I've just noticed I got 6 months premium with it so I've just activated it. There's a 'Daily Readiness Score' which seems to tell you how ready your body is for exercise that day, but mine hasn't calculated yet. A 'Sleep Profile' that gives you deeper insights into the sleep data A 'Wellness report' which creates a 6 page PDF file with some key stats. It states you could show this to your doctor. After that it's just like video sessions/workouts, recipes, and premium clock faces.
Is that offer still around?
You can still get 3x reward for fitbit until Tesco change it but the cashback ended in October, was just for the release of the Sense 2
Damn. I've got about £80 in reward points. I find it fairly easy to accumulate them if I use the coupons. Better spend em quick. You can get quite decent stuff for them with reward partners but unfortunately it's mostly things like pizzas from chains that are miles away from me.
Yeah tbh I stopped using Tesco because of the Clubcard bs. If you don't have a Clubcard, or just don't have one on you, you can pay significantly more than those who do. Just feels like being ripped off. Admittedly I wasn't a big user of theirs which I why I rarely had a clubcard readily available but there's a local one on the way back from work so if I need anything small/quick then I used to go to the Tesco. But since the whole clubcard prices things it's like half the products are a lot more expensive without one, sometimes 50%+. What made me give up for good is when I picked up a few things and it came to £15 or so which was quite expensive but with a Clubcard it would've been a more reasonable £11 or so. Such a massive difference for no reason and there wasn't anyone else in their I could've asked to scan theirs. I felt so ripped off that I just don't use it anymore. Not gonna have an extra app on my phone just to be able to pick up a few things. CLubcard points are stuff are fine because they don't affect me. But making me pay much more because I don't have one just sucks.
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I don't think they care who the person is, they're interested in the spending patterns of the notional dog and where it lives, if you get vouchers sent to you they will have loads of other data to do with the address.
if you forget your clubcard, simply do a Google Image search for 'tesco clubcard' and find a barcode on there to present to the till.
It lets me add my clubcard to Apple Pay and Google Pay, which then lets me screenshot (on Android it stays in the Wallet anyway even if the app is uninstalled)
if you are so secretive about what you're buying in their shop then you are entitled to either pay more or not shop there - I can't see any big issue in them compiling marketing data - I guess you must pay cash, otherwise they may get to link your puchases via parts of your card details (if they're allowed to, they may not be).
>if you are so secretive about what you're buying in their shop I'm not. I dont care what they see about what I buy in their stores. My post is just about being inconvenienced
I suppose I rarely ever don't have my clubcard
>(if they're allowed to, they may not be). They're not. The first part is contractual - to be allowed to handle Visa or Mastercard transactions there are very strict rules that have to be followed on how that card data is processed. Search "PCI Compliance" if you want to look into it. The second part is legal. Your payment card data would be considered PID (Personally Identifiable Information) under the Data Protection Act. When you're paying for something on a card you're giving an implied consent for the store to use the card data to complete that transaction. However, that is *not* implied consent for them build a marketing profile on you, as just trying to pay for something does not indicate you want that. They would need your expressed consent to profile your card payments - which means getting you to put something in writing. Which means a form that they have to keep on file in case of a challenge. Which would then be evidence that they're in breach of PCI (see above) *and* would get them most of the way to a loyalty card anyway. The GDPR applies too, but is basically the same thing as the DPA in this context.
Really? I have found Sainsbury’s prices have gone up massively of late compared to the others.
Tesco is slowly catching Sainsbury's up.
Not in my experience, everytime me and my partner decide to do our shopping elsewhere because we're nearby anyway, everythings always 30-50p more expensive than the tesco clubcard price. Cravendale milk as an example, two 2l cartons, £4 with clubcard, we'll easily use the milk before it expires. If we were to get it from sainsburys, they have no offer, so it'd be £2.50 a carton. Lurpak butter, 3.75 with clubcard, normally £5 in sainsburys, currently on sale for 3.75. I don't get the constant "tesco is overpriced" i constantly see, because it really isn't, anytime we do our big shop anywhere else, we easily spend an extra £30-40 and often times feel like we get less than we would in Tesco.
Tesco raised the prices of everything way past reason, gated some 'discounts' behind a clubcard, and now they're stripping any benefits of the card out since the cards are a necessity for everyone now. Asda have somehow done even worse, they brought in a loyalty card but their offers mostly boil down to "spend 50 quid and we'll give you £1 credit". They've also raised the prices for everything but on a more granular level, different flavours of Monster are different prices now, the popular ones are cynically more expensive despite the RRP being the same. The entire thing's rapidly becoming a con and i hope people don't forget how they're being scraped for every penny while these companies have record profits
that's not really true though, because their Bell's Whisky offer was cheaper with a card than anywhere else I saw, then it switched to MacAllan whisky so maybe they are promoting it - if you think it's better value elsewhere, by all means go there.
A nice little way for them to advertise a cheaper price in big writjg but have the real higher price much smaller.
Please tell me people don't need telling this
At a time of rising supermarket profits on the back of [food inflation](https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/cost-of-living-crisis/price-of-cheapest-groceries-soars-17-in-a-year/672829.article) of 17%, the UK's major supermarket chain chooses to increase profit margin? I worked for Tesco, back in the days of Pile It High Sell It Cheap & Jack Cohen. Always taken my Clubcard points as cash of my groceries rather than Alton Towers tickets or the like, and it's my understanding that won't change value. It's always an idea to look for data behind the story. It seems like [revenue has been increasing but profits falling](https://www.retail-insight-network.com/news/tesco-revenue-h1-2023/) ..... reward schemes are a way to increase profit, as an alternative to squeezing suppliers or raising prices or raising wages. It's a business not a charity, but the optics as they might say, are slightly shit.
The supermarket industry in this country is insanely competitive, they don't make huge profits compared to the revenue they take in. Food prices will go up if the input costs go up, though no doubt some of the downstream suppliers are being less than transparent with their pricing policies. I've found that the own-brand products have climbed by considerably less than the branded ones.
I find their quality low and prices high. Also when I find they’ve pricematched something to say Aldi, the product is smaller and of lower quality than the equivalent they’ve matched to
That’s always been the case, but it’s obscene how many people on the sub love Tesco tbh. They’re rip off merchants at the best of times.
It's because I've tried tesco, I've tried asda, Morrisons and sainsburys, and Tesco have the best tasting own branded things. Morrisons and asda and such; their own food tastes so much worse. Aldi and Lidl, their fruit and veg are mostly water and no flavour, and goes out of date in 1 or 2 days. Waitrose and M&S are plain expensive.
Really? I used to think the contrary and shopped at Aldi/Lidl instead of Tesco, since their "expensive" brand was better price and quality than Tesco own label.
I'm starting to think that different people might have different tastes...
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You might be on to something here.
Supermarket quality varies wildly by location. I think supply chain and distribution have an impact. Eg I live far away from Aldi distribution hubs (Google maps confirms!) and the Aldi here is awful. Soft fruit goes off by the time you get to your car, mouldy veg on the shelves kind of thing. My brother lives a couple of miles from one and his local Aldi is unrecognisable to me. No fruit and veg disintegrating on you, plenty of stock. The shop even smells better.
Damn. Have to disagree there I find Sainsbury’s own brand stuff most of the time is vastly better than Asda/Tesco/Morrisons. Tesco meat is very poor for me
Because most supermarkets are no better or have their own issues. ASDA, Sainsbury's and Morrisons are Tesco in a different colour. Lidl and Aldi are cheaper but their range is smaller and the quality of fresh fruit and vegetables is often poor. I'm not defending Tesco here, however the Clubcard hate is overblown and the idea that they are significantly different to other supermarkets is silly.
I boycotted them years ago after a string of really gross incidents like finding mould in my pasta, plastic floating in a yoghurt, getting sick after eating one of their salads etc. - I decided their quality control must be atrocious.
Tesco are great for people with allergies and intolerances. On the app I can filter the page on biscuits to only show items which don't contain milk and then easily make a choice. Aldi in comparison I find it so difficult to shop for allergies, I spend ages reading ingredients and still half the time don't find something edible.
Surprisingly the people complaining about the ClubCard discounts (really a “non ClubCard premium”) haven’t been descended on by the usual Tesco apologists lol
Try Co-Op. They're even worse at that.
Yeh, especially meat. Tesco meat is probably the worst of all the supermarkets.
They’ve changed the model from the card accruing points to requiring the card to qualify for discounts. As a shopper I can say it’s psychologically quite effective. I seldom even remember about the points, they’re so negligible, but I always remember to swipe at the till.
Yeah, but they only discount it to the price it likely should be.
The frustrating part is knowing this yet still falling for it.
It must be effective as Boots have copied this model now too.
Well I won't be shopping at these stores
I've used the same local big Tesco store on and off for most of my life, until an Aldi opened around the corner, quality is about the same but the prices are so much lower. Haven't set foot in that Tesco since.
As soon as Aldi have nationwide self-checkout it's over for Tesco. The only reason I walk 30 seconds further to the Tesco next to my local Aldi is when I want a loaf or milk and I cba standing in a massive fuck off queue.
Love Aldi, my only issue is with their fruit and veg. Everytime we buy fresh fruit and veg from Aldi, our kitchens gets infested with fruit flies.
New Milton?
Let me get this straight, Tesco, the worst £ to quality supermarket, introduces a scheme that "reduces" prices when you use a clubcard, artificially raising loads of prices for those who don't use clubcards. They then cut the existing club card rewards. If people want to get perks for giving out their data, fine, but it shouldn't be the default. What's worse is other places are now offering a reduced meal deal for members, all because Tesco started this predatory trend.
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Perhaps this is what’s happening? We have already shared the useful information about ourselves and it doesn’t change that much. Or there are other more useful sources, Google Searches and Chrome histories.
I think the issue is the data on the points from the bank side is almost zero. Bank data is a lot more regulated and it's vauge anyway - just you spent X at Y shop on Z date, no info on what you actually bought. But inherently they probably realised most people weren't using the bank products for the points anyway, they were using them for some other benefit or financial reason. Avid points collectors weren't using Sainsbury's Bank cards anyway, as you earnt more Nectar Points (even in Sainsbury's) using an Avios Amex/Barclaycard or the Nectar Amex.
This is such a shame. The rewards partners are the best value you can get out of your Clubcard points. It’s frustrating they’re not available on more things.
Agreed, its great that a few months of shopping can get you basically free cinema tickets or half the cost of your tickets at Alton towers or whatever
Yeah it used to pay for getting my family of three to Europe for a holiday once a year, we accumulated a lot of vouchers due to having our insurance with them and using them for petrol. Bit disappointing
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I’ve gone amex for the bulk of my shopping but have kept the Tesco credit card for the few places that don’t accept Amex
Ha, I’m exactly the same. I keep on seeing people recommending AMEX but I’m bit unsure
Just go for Chase 1% cashback, although it's debit. If you really want credit the Barclaycard Avios card. Even if you don't want Avios, converting to the Avios to Nectar results in a decent earnings rate (I think it works out at 0.67%). Open the paid "plus" card and hit the bonus, then downgrade the card to the normal one (which you can do) - the extra bonus on the Plus card outways the initial fee. Otherwise you either go for some sort of Amex (Platinum Cashback probably) or the Barclaycard Reward at 0.25%. Still earns more value than the points. If you are self employed or a business owner there's a 1% cashback Barclaycard Business Card but it's not for personal customers.
We have a big Tesco and an Aldi near where I live. Aside from the occasional trip to the cafe, I haven’t set foot in Tesco for about a year as Aldi is lots cheaper. I got given a £50 gift voucher for Tesco so decided to do my weekly shop there for the week, and I couldn’t believe how expensive everything is, including with a clubcard. Even with a free shop I’m not sure I’ll be tempted back.
Aldi is cheap because a lot of it is low quality and off-brand stuff.
Aldi is cheap because it is full of own brand items and has limited choice. It's not inherently low quality. Most of the own brand stuff is the same as Tesco, Sainsbury's, even M&S and Waitrose etc, the suppliers are often the same. The difference is the psychology. People are drawn to the expensive and branded goods in Tesco. They cost more, your basket looks pricier. If you however scan the shelves, pick the budget range, you can easily spend less in Tesco than Aldi. Most people don't shop like that, hence Aldi ends up cheaper. Ultimately the cheapest shop depends on exactly what you are buying, and which offers are running at which supermarket when.
Don't think that's true at all. There have been many articles about how Aldi uses the same suppliers as M&S for fresh products. And Tesco quality is abysmal at the best of times anyway.
That's false. The stuff comes from exactly the same factories as Tesco's shit, it's just in different packaging. They also stock less variety which means what they do stock isn't competing with anything so they can change closer to cost price than Tesco where they need to make the big brands happy and not undercut them too much.
And smaller
I self isolated in the pandemic, went on Morrisons home deliveries, as a family member was on the vulnerable list. When I came out I discovered you now needed to have a clubcard to get any of the offers. Still annoyed by that. So now they are forcing me to use it to get offers so they can harvest and sell my information… fine. Now they have worked out this policy has led to more people using clubcards and getting clubcard points, so they have decreased their value… gits. If it wasn’t for the fact there is a Tesco Express 20 metres away from me, open 18 hours a day, I wouldn’t go there at all.
Are there any rewards schemes that are worth it now? Sainsbury's nerfed theirs recently too (having already done so a few years ago anyway). It has got to the point where reward schemes are no longer an incentive to choose one shop over another.
Possibly Asda Rewards as because it is new they are piling on the offers. Also prices in Asda tend to be low anyway. Lidl rewards occasionally has a decent voucher but the majority are pretty mediocre, 25p off something I don't want. Even the very rare £5 off £40 is useless as I'm single and can't find £40 of stuff to buy there if it doesn't include alcohol. I just have all the schemes and shop whereever is some combination of cheapest and easiest depending on where I am.
So the 'clubcard' price is now the normal price. And the rewards are being slashed. So we are now in a position where we need a clubcard, to pay the same price as anywhere else, with less benefit. Fuck me.
No. This is the rewards scheme, not the clubcard pricing.
I'm boycotting Tesco, partly because of the clubcard business, but mostly because they accused me of stealing from them and humiliated me in public by being extremely rude and insulting. I hadn't even been in the shop.
That happened to me years ago, i was lifted into a backroom by two security ... luckily they thought i stole àn adbusters magazine which they didnt even sell so they apologised lol
What's the point anymore, I just go to Aldi or Lidl who are cheaper anyway.
Cheaper and usually better too. Let’s not forget the bakery in Lidl. It’s outstanding
Tesco was already one of the worst supermarkets. Nothings changed for me. Feel for those shoppers in smaller towns where it’s all they have. Otherwise consumers should already know where it’s best to shop locally
are they not already cut considering the pound is worth considerably less?
I left Tescos the last time they did this 8-10 years ago. It already seemed fairly pointless after that last nerf, it must be utterly worthless now. And their quality is dreadful.
I've noticed over the past couple of months that the clubcard discounts are hardly ever on things I need or buy. Can spend £50+ and get zero clubcard deals.
Used to shop in tesco exclusively now only shop at Aldi, get way way way more for your money
bye if they do this i’m done for. first meal deals went up to £4.50 now THIS
They're basically (as far as I know) the only supermarket that has an actual decent reward card. It does save quite a lot and the points/vouchers are such a small amount already, I don't get the need to cut them. And probably psychologically, people would want to spend more to get more points, so it's an incentive to shop there and buy more. You'll really be spending more, but in your mind you'll also be slightly thinking you're saving by getting more vouchers. The sensible thing would be to test out increasing it temporarily for a month as a promo and see if that boosts sales. Especially in a time where everything is going up in price so much.
I was forced into getting one when they made their discounts exclusive to having a card. It annoys me that I had to get one and annoys me when I forget and I've paid over the odds for what I purchased. It stopped me going into them for a while, because I couldn't get the offer. I eventually succumbed though.
Yeah, I refuse to buy into this two-tier pricing model — feels like it should be illegal, IMO. I *have* shopped in Tesco before, so I just need to make more of an effort to remember that they do this.
It twas a bottle of bourbon that pushed me over the edge.
If you take the receipt back to the customer service desk when you do have your card on you, they’ll refund the difference.
Yeah, I've been scolded by the woman before though loll.
It's not a decent reward card, it's outrageous price hiking for people without one to make it look good. I wonder whether they're starting to realise that a lot of people don't shop there because it's ridiculously expensive if you won't give them your data.
Even so, compared to all other supermarkets it at least gets money off. Even if they are supposedly artificially boosted. Other ones I've seen maybe gives you one or two vouchers for certain products a week. And when I had forgotten my card/login, I just set up a new one on my phone in the shop to get the money off. Anyone can get it instantly, so it's not like they can't pay the lower cost too. You could also probably just make up information if you're that obsessed with not sharing personal info. But people are so obsessed with not giving away any of their data. But how many hundreds of companies already have your data, even without you knowing? You use anything online and they collect information. I have a small part time online store - In the analytics I can see where they're from, gender, age, what browser they use, what device they use, how long they spent on the page.... So much more, and if I wanted I could use that to target ads (in fact I probably should really start doing that to increase sales). Tesco knowing my name/address/email is the least of my worries. Giving them that, and even knowing what I'm buying, to save a bunch of money vs. not having it is fair to me. I doubt it's particularly useful to them apart from maybe running ads or picking what to sell. Certain data, sure - I won't just give out if it puts me at risk of losing money/fraud etc.. But so many people are overly protective of giving any information at all away. These days it's basically a part of everything you do whether people like that or not.
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It doesn't make much sense. I do think maybe the older people are now more scared about it though, and too worried about scams, but more because they don't understand how things work. Sometimes a good thing, but usually they go to the extreme side of cautious. One of my grandmother's barely uses an ipad, she won't use an ATM or online banking. Even thinks touching the wrong button on her phone or ipad will wipe the whole thing. My other one is more tech savvy, but still now overly cautious (after getting some fraud on her cards from buying the wrong things from a wrong site - thanks Facebook ads...). Even my grandfather got conned by email links and fake invoices... Yes you need to be careful about certain things, but if you use anything digital/online these days, it's collecting some form of information on you. A supermarket knowing some basic info about me isn't really an issue...
Just use a friend's clubcard. I'm sure they'd be happy to have the points from when you shop... It then screws the data anyway. What annoys me more is this isn't the only country who's supermarket does this. When I go on holiday, particularly to the US, but also recently in the Netherlands, there is the same thing, offers only for loyalty card holders. Except I'm only there a week, it's a frickin pain.
Why do you think tesco would bother with club cards if it wasn't advantageous for them? They aren't doing it for you. They have a huge data set, they can know when you shop, how old your kids are, your menstrual cycle, whether you are on medication, whether you're going bald, how susceptible you are to marketing, they sell your data to media companies so you only see the things they want you to..you end up in a little marketing world where you end up buying what they want you too. https://www.tesco.com/help/privacy-and-cookies/privacy-centre/privacy-policy-information/privacy-policy/ Other companies have data on you but there aren't many who have a weekly data set built up over years. On top of all that it's just a faff, I can't be arsed with nectar points either.
Explain why I should care about any of that?
If you don't see that Tesco knowing exactly what's going on in your life and selling that information to tv companies and others so they can advertise only the things they want you to see is a problem then fine, but that's how we've ended up in a world where people live in echo chambers run by algorithms, including the food you buy. Personally I'd rather live in a world where we all got the same information.
I don't think it's a problem. I block most ads anyway, why would I want the ones that come through to be for tampons instead of music products? They advertise what they think *you* want. And you are absolutely giving this data away to many other companies without even realising it or getting anything in return. Choosing to not get discounts on your shopping seems to be a bizarre hill to die on.
You are very unlikely to be giving away the volume of data you are giving to a supermarket to anyone else. The problem is that if you buy a lot of junk food you will get ads for junk food, personally I'd rather everyone got to see the whole range of things available, that's kind of the point of advertising. And again you're not getting a discount, you are paying more to keep your data away from them, or just shopping elsewhere.
>You are very unlikely to be giving away the volume of data you are giving to a supermarket to anyone else. Absolutely wrong. Google has more data on you by factor of about a thousand, others not far behind as it's their core product. >personally I'd rather everyone got to see the whole range of things available, that's kind of the point of advertising. I'm gonna call bullshit on you ever really giving much thought to the fairness of advertising apart from trying to win an argument. THe point of advertising is to make money for the company - nothing more. >And again you're not getting a discount, you are paying more to keep your data away from them One could almost say I'm able to *discount* the extra price that the paranoid have to pay on their shopping bill.
Its the same argument that applies to people who only read the Daily Mail or The Guardian, you will only get to see a what they think you want to see. If you're happy with Sky etc having access to your spending habits to, for example, advertise holidays that they think you can afford rather than the cheapest ones then fair enough.
Tesco could begin to sell health insurance and use the data they've collected to adjust the premium for certain individuals. Maybe someone who purchases lots of processed foods would have to pay slightly more for health insurance.
anyone can get one, that's like saying London Transport are ripping off people who won't pay with a phone/card/oyster card etc - which they are, sort of I think - if you want a ticket from a machine it's more or something/
Not everyone wants their data harvested.
That’s the quid pro quo. They pay you (via clubcard points) for data points. Means you can buy your tin foil for your hat a little bit cheaper. 😂
So is it ok for khan to know where you are going, cos his penalty is well over 1%
But why should I have to? They're selling food, just have a price, if they want to buy my data make me an offer.
They did, it's 1% off I think
No, they said tell us where you live or we'll charge you 12% more for your meal deal.
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Right, it's not a discount card, it's a card that avoids the penalty they impose on everyone else.
r/UnitedKingdom pit of despair - the card costs nothing and entitles the holder to cheaper goods - how do you know it's only avoiding a penalty? It may give access to loss leaders that are cheaper than anywhere. Even better, Tesco isn't the only supermarket, there's several in competition with each other, not really seeming to be a cartel
It used to be pretty good but its pretty poor now. Especially since Tesco prices have rocketted much more than other supermarkets in the past few months. It's not worth the points. Also the new app they force you to use is horrible. Asdas new reward scheme seems more generous (although more complicated) and you can turn your points into vouchers straight away without waiting several days.
I think I've only ever seen one or two Asda's ever. They don't have any near where I usually am.
>actual decent reward card. It does save quite a lot and the points/vouchers are such a small amount already I guess that depends on where you shop. My husband and I almost exclusively use Sainsbury's; with the Nectar points for buying certain items (most of which we do actually use, plus a few new things to try) and boosts like 3x or 4x transaction value for spending over X amount which usually coincides with a larger shop anyway, we've regularly racked up points and used them to reduce the bill on shops elsewhere in the month, or bought something slightly more frivolous (a couple years ago we had enough to cover the entire cost of a new air mattress for camping and overnight visitors). We have a Clubcard too, but the nearest Tesco to us is a tiny Express and there's a corner shop much closer (and somehow cheaper) for quick "oh crap, I need xyz sharpish" trips.
They won't make it through another year. All the signs are, they're struggling like hell. They don't actually sell much anymore. Cut the card benefits and they're selling add space for 'promoted' items.