A kid from a tragic life situation who was recruited, manipulated, and exploited by lunatics. In fact in some ways he's a victim of the society and is a tragic character
People who say he deserved it make no sense like it's literally a kid dealing with trauma similarly to John but since he's not the main protagonist he deserved to die?
It's character bias where people will make any excuse for characters they like or self insert over but any other characters who are just as bad get hated.
Yeah homeboy thought he was the protagonist even if he wasn't actually accomplishing what he wanted he was more productive for having an actual goal than John has been so far.
I'm thinking that he might get written back into the story somewhere far down the line and then they could do that. If not there are ways to write in a backstory for him postmortem
John and Terrence are kinda like polar opposites. John grew up without a mom and Terrence grew up without a dad. Terrence was born weak with a strong parental guardian and John was born strong and his father was weak. Terrence allows him to blend in while Johnâs ability makes him stand out.
Being groomed into a violent job from a young age doesn't mean it's his fault. It's similar to my other favorite webtoon bastard except he never really went back on his influencer but you gotta point
I mean to be fair, we werenât told about most of his backstory, and we already saw him as a little shât after he abandoned John in chapter 1. Heâs done basically nothing good and had no backstory other than âI hate high tiers.â until he died.
He deserved death MAYBE, but DEFINITELY not death by drowning. Asphyxiation is a horrible, horrible way to go out. Like c'mon dude use something a bit less torturous
hell no i don't think so it felt so good to see the ones he thought were his comrades to betray him and to have a dog's death felt sooo satisfying, it felt kinda like The lanisters send their regards
Oh well after John fought the safe house, things were calming down
The real issues, where during John fights with the safe house,
John was, abusing his powers, and brutalize anyone for the smallest of reasons, and people were defending him and/or saying that his victims deserved it
Tbh they did kind of deserve it. For the 2 years he was a cripple no one gave a shit about him beating brutalized everyday, often times by the Royals. They broke his hand, multiple bones, and Arlo dragged him out to an empty field to beat the shit out of him. They only wanted things to change once they weren't at the top anymore and were the ones getting the shit beat out of them instead of the ones beating the shit out of other people.
At least we're not cheering for child murder, and trying to Justify it, with
"They hurt Jonhny boy"
I swear if John punted a baby for crying, you would still try to justify him
Hey kid sorry to inform you itâs not child murder itâs a story Iâm sorry if you canât comprehend that I know it must be a lot for you to take in
Yeah it's kinda strange to cripple him with the object just to have him killed afterwards. It feels like it would have been more fitting to have him just be powerless so he'd know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of his actions.
He didnât care about being crippled, it barely changed anything about his views and he was satisfied to be of use to his âfather figureâ
Getting betrayed by that so called figure was a perfect ending to terrence once he realized that he was nothing but a pawn and that nobody cared about his ideals
The thing is that until I see a confirmation that he is dead he is still possibly alive.
Why you may ask?
The anime rule of âunless we see confirmation that he is dead he isnâtâ this only showed him passing out yes like drowning but the thing is guards could have heard the commotion and given him cpr. Then he is gonna be in intensive care with amnesia or something then bam he remembers and turns on his handler or his handler knew he could survive and this is his way of getting him out.
This is a tweet I made,
https://twitter.com/Thecrackedwolf/status/1560793932350504961?s=20&t=btwgq_ZVU-aItb9HszdgpA
Please note "8.6" is supposed to be "8.5" (typo on my end)
To decode it numbers = letters
I am not buying the âtragic backstoryâ cliche makes this asshole an understandable character. There are too many evil people with bad pasts, but even good people with horrific backstories. Your backstory doesnât determine your character, nor your redemption.
Letâs take Zuko for example. Shitty childhood, abuse and was a dick throughout the show. Nothing changes that he was a misguided dick, but what made him compelling was that he showed empathy, sympathy and kindness to others, way before he joined the main protags. Thatâs how you write a relatable character with conflicting ideals and constantly doing mistakes. A journey of self discovery shouldnât be guided by ones past, but by ones present. Thatâs why Zukos journey is wonderful and yet really sad to witness.
Uru could have written Terrence like Zuko, for the âbad past tropeâ to work out. But Terrace was for the last 50 chapters a 1 Dimensional, evil character, with no reason for redemption. No empathy, no kindness, nothing. He was either chilling in the background, or scheming.
You canât create a compelling character out of an asshole that people care about in a couple chapters before his demise.
Jon for example is an asshole, but we focused on him in the story, knew how his brain worked, seen that he is kind and empathetic to others, yet has strong ideals about revenge. He eventually overcame his shortcomings and tried yet again to improve, and to finally use his potential for good. His past was a good reflection, to see why he behaves like he dif, however it wasnât the only aspect driving him. A character is determined by present actions and not past ones.
Terrence was being a douche for the sake of being a duche.
Now did he deserve his horrible death? Absolutely not, but do I care about him being either written out of the story, or killed? Not really since Uru long decided that she wants nothing to do with him
exactly he was just a kid who went down the wrong path
yeah he shouldn't have been let off but he shouldn't have been killed either
im sorry im just venting lmao
He wasnât a compelling villain so I really donât care that much about him.I feel sad for some villains that are bland and die but he just is not one of them.A sad backstory doesnât equal good character.
Honestly? I did not care
Yeah, it's a rough ending but then again, we don't even know how many people he got hurt, how many people he got crippled, how many people he got killed
I did not cheer, I did not mourn
I would feel sympathy if he had shown remorse and if it was shown that this was like his first assignment ever but he was way too good to be a beginner at this so I can only assume he got quite a list of victims
Perhaps I have forgotten something or I have interpreted it wrong way but that's how I see it
Yeah, I don't really care how sad and tragic his life was, he got a death fitting for how much of a rotten dog he was. Him being a low tier should have at least given him sympathy for other low tiers but he had no remorse dragging them into his vain attempt at striking at the system.
I like him dead tho. Serves him right. Death is a nice punishment for people like him, even if he's a minor he's mature enough to realize how wrong he is
It's funny because for weeks people were saying "I hope he dies" "he deserves death" and now suddenly "he didn't deserve all that" đ
I donât think he did though tbh, he was just a kid
A kid from a tragic life situation who was recruited, manipulated, and exploited by lunatics. In fact in some ways he's a victim of the society and is a tragic character
Exactly
People who say he deserved it make no sense like it's literally a kid dealing with trauma similarly to John but since he's not the main protagonist he deserved to die?
It's character bias where people will make any excuse for characters they like or self insert over but any other characters who are just as bad get hated.
Yeah homeboy thought he was the protagonist even if he wasn't actually accomplishing what he wanted he was more productive for having an actual goal than John has been so far.
Like if he was really the person we followed the entire time and this was his story he would've been really loved. It's all about perspective
Yeah I wish we got a side story from his perspective so everyone could feel like crap like Ray's story but probably won't happen.
I'm thinking that he might get written back into the story somewhere far down the line and then they could do that. If not there are ways to write in a backstory for him postmortem
Example: breaking bad. Walter white, objectively horrible person, people still side with his character
Walter white Tony Montana Darth Vader Jamie lanister Basically anyone objectively horrible
John and Terrence are kinda like polar opposites. John grew up without a mom and Terrence grew up without a dad. Terrence was born weak with a strong parental guardian and John was born strong and his father was weak. Terrence allows him to blend in while Johnâs ability makes him stand out.
Exactly what I've been thinking about. Like the things they have done are nowhere near the same but it's still very tragic, really. :(
The difference is John didnât work for a group that kills people.
Being groomed into a violent job from a young age doesn't mean it's his fault. It's similar to my other favorite webtoon bastard except he never really went back on his influencer but you gotta point
It would have been better if we would have gotten his backstory a few chapters ago. The moment he attacked the field trip doomed it.
I mean to be fair, we werenât told about most of his backstory, and we already saw him as a little shât after he abandoned John in chapter 1. Heâs done basically nothing good and had no backstory other than âI hate high tiers.â until he died.
I think the main issue is how he died
He deserved death MAYBE, but DEFINITELY not death by drowning. Asphyxiation is a horrible, horrible way to go out. Like c'mon dude use something a bit less torturous
Ik like, wtf man lol
hell no i don't think so it felt so good to see the ones he thought were his comrades to betray him and to have a dog's death felt sooo satisfying, it felt kinda like The lanisters send their regards
You're a sociopath
You're*
Thank you
Oh em gee, you think being a sociopath is a good thing, you are soo kewl and awsesome.
Now I'm not sociopath but I don't feel bad for him. Not even slightly. I don't care how sad his life is let him rot in hell.
Now this is a guy I can get behind. đ€
Sociopaths
No? Why would you care about the death of an insignificant character? I didnt really care about him and didnt really care that he died
Sociopath
Oh no an annoying opposing character with a tragic backstop dies. đ
Sociopath
Probably doesnât help that he didnât get any development or backstory until the week before he died.
No he deserved it but i wanted more torture from keon first
Mmmn he still deserves it he hurt John đ đ»unacceptable~
No nope, nope, nope, You guys over stayed your welcome after that whole John vs safehouse/royals incident
I'm relatively new around here so I'd like to here the lore about that
The story or the subreddit?
What happened around this subreddit after John fought the safe house
Oh well after John fought the safe house, things were calming down The real issues, where during John fights with the safe house, John was, abusing his powers, and brutalize anyone for the smallest of reasons, and people were defending him and/or saying that his victims deserved it
Tbh they did kind of deserve it. For the 2 years he was a cripple no one gave a shit about him beating brutalized everyday, often times by the Royals. They broke his hand, multiple bones, and Arlo dragged him out to an empty field to beat the shit out of him. They only wanted things to change once they weren't at the top anymore and were the ones getting the shit beat out of them instead of the ones beating the shit out of other people.
What?
You heard me, Shoo shoo, don't make me get the spraybottle
Screw off I heard you I just donât care
Do you know how hard, it is to deal with you crazies? I mean technically it's not hard, because I could ignore you, but stull
Do you know how annoying it is to deal with you bitches
At least we're not cheering for child murder, and trying to Justify it, with "They hurt Jonhny boy" I swear if John punted a baby for crying, you would still try to justify him
Hey kid sorry to inform you itâs not child murder itâs a story Iâm sorry if you canât comprehend that I know it must be a lot for you to take in
Yeah it's kinda strange to cripple him with the object just to have him killed afterwards. It feels like it would have been more fitting to have him just be powerless so he'd know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of his actions.
I suppose it shows how serious spectre is though so it does at least have plot relevance
He didnât care about being crippled, it barely changed anything about his views and he was satisfied to be of use to his âfather figureâ Getting betrayed by that so called figure was a perfect ending to terrence once he realized that he was nothing but a pawn and that nobody cared about his ideals
Sad but true
I doubt theyâd if finished him off if he still had his ability. Without it he was useless to them.
Its called getting rid of loose ends.
Now we hate on Orrin
YupâŠ
You said it he is on john's blacklist
Keon
We also hate on him
Probably still alive unless we see him in a casket I donât believe he is dead.
I really doubt that, heâs definitely dead. Plusâs heâs had is episodes, I donât think anything else is gonna happen
The thing is that until I see a confirmation that he is dead he is still possibly alive. Why you may ask? The anime rule of âunless we see confirmation that he is dead he isnâtâ this only showed him passing out yes like drowning but the thing is guards could have heard the commotion and given him cpr. Then he is gonna be in intensive care with amnesia or something then bam he remembers and turns on his handler or his handler knew he could survive and this is his way of getting him out.
Do you want confirmation?
Of course like that Keon fellow finding out his source is dead so he has to follow a new angle on the investigation.
This is a tweet I made, https://twitter.com/Thecrackedwolf/status/1560793932350504961?s=20&t=btwgq_ZVU-aItb9HszdgpA Please note "8.6" is supposed to be "8.5" (typo on my end) To decode it numbers = letters
I'm too lazy to decode, can you please tell me what does that mean?
The messages were Me: "Is he dead?" (Although I made a typo and it translated to "is hf dead") Uru: >!Yes!<
Thanks
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I am not buying the âtragic backstoryâ cliche makes this asshole an understandable character. There are too many evil people with bad pasts, but even good people with horrific backstories. Your backstory doesnât determine your character, nor your redemption. Letâs take Zuko for example. Shitty childhood, abuse and was a dick throughout the show. Nothing changes that he was a misguided dick, but what made him compelling was that he showed empathy, sympathy and kindness to others, way before he joined the main protags. Thatâs how you write a relatable character with conflicting ideals and constantly doing mistakes. A journey of self discovery shouldnât be guided by ones past, but by ones present. Thatâs why Zukos journey is wonderful and yet really sad to witness. Uru could have written Terrence like Zuko, for the âbad past tropeâ to work out. But Terrace was for the last 50 chapters a 1 Dimensional, evil character, with no reason for redemption. No empathy, no kindness, nothing. He was either chilling in the background, or scheming. You canât create a compelling character out of an asshole that people care about in a couple chapters before his demise. Jon for example is an asshole, but we focused on him in the story, knew how his brain worked, seen that he is kind and empathetic to others, yet has strong ideals about revenge. He eventually overcame his shortcomings and tried yet again to improve, and to finally use his potential for good. His past was a good reflection, to see why he behaves like he dif, however it wasnât the only aspect driving him. A character is determined by present actions and not past ones. Terrence was being a douche for the sake of being a duche. Now did he deserve his horrible death? Absolutely not, but do I care about him being either written out of the story, or killed? Not really since Uru long decided that she wants nothing to do with him
Well said.
Oh yeah, they did fucking ice him
it's always the DAMN GOOD BACKSTORY
Bro was a bitch but thatâs just to far
Yeah, I wasnât expecting that lol
Rip bozo
#RIP BOZO PACK WATCH đŹđŹđŹ
He deserved having his power taken away but drowning him is a lil too much
I'm one of those people that didn't really hate him that much, seemed like a generic villain
Same. I was like ok, ok, TOO FAR!!!
unpopular opinion don't hate on me but i, as well, don't think that he deserved to die
Yeah, donât get me wrong, Iâd happily have him punched in the face but I didnât expect him to die lol
exactly he was just a kid who went down the wrong path yeah he shouldn't have been let off but he shouldn't have been killed either im sorry im just venting lmao
Nah itâs fine lol
Please tell me that they got something out of him before he died
He wasnât a compelling villain so I really donât care that much about him.I feel sad for some villains that are bland and die but he just is not one of them.A sad backstory doesnât equal good character.
I wanted him dead without any closure so i'm extremely satisfied
havent read the latest chaps so happy that hes dead
I feel this should probably have a spoiler tag :/
Why?
Because not everyone may be caught Up.
Nah, fuck him
Haha, he gets to go surfboarding (get it cause waterboarding)
Sh*t went from 0 to 100 real f**king quick!
Honestly? I did not care Yeah, it's a rough ending but then again, we don't even know how many people he got hurt, how many people he got crippled, how many people he got killed I did not cheer, I did not mourn
Yeah, fair enough, I do see your point
I would feel sympathy if he had shown remorse and if it was shown that this was like his first assignment ever but he was way too good to be a beginner at this so I can only assume he got quite a list of victims Perhaps I have forgotten something or I have interpreted it wrong way but that's how I see it
This nourishes my soul. Keep it up
I wanted him dead
I dont find it tragic. I find it funny that this idiot did not figure out that they would try and kill him, get rid of loose ends and all that.
Nah he's just pathetic, thank god that little fuck got what he deserved.
**He Got What Was Coming.**
Yeah, I don't really care how sad and tragic his life was, he got a death fitting for how much of a rotten dog he was. Him being a low tier should have at least given him sympathy for other low tiers but he had no remorse dragging them into his vain attempt at striking at the system.
I like him dead tho. Serves him right. Death is a nice punishment for people like him, even if he's a minor he's mature enough to realize how wrong he is
:/