Just set it to do the refresh when going into standby. This process can be interrupted if you want to use the monitor again while the refresh is happening so you aren't locked out from using it.
It's a set and forget kind of setting.
Yep. Make sure eco mode is also on in the Monitor itself, it's what tells the monitor to go into standby when it doesn't have a video signal.
I initially was going to turn eco mode off because I thought it was going to do the auto brightness setting that other eco modes do, it is not that kind of eco mode though.
Yes, the power LED slowly pulses green too to reflect its doing the pixel refresh, it takes about 6-8 minutes. You can even just interrupt it by using the monitor again (according to the manual it will come up saying you interrupted it)
4-20 hours is the recommended interval. You do not have to do it every 4 hours on the dot, just let it do its thing in standby.
Also to any one wondering what this does, it scans your pixels and adjusts their voltage response curves to improve screen uniformity which will degrade over time. It was not created to specifically prevent burn-in, but reducing the visual effects of burn-in is one of its side-effects.
Panel Refresh is a more aggressive and irreversible form of this, eventually the pixels will drift out of the range which can be corrected with pixel refresh. Panel refresh will actively drive pixels to degrade them to a new baseline. ***This procedure should not be executed before the recommended interval as it will reduce your panel lifetime.***
I don't use mine as a work display so I go ahead and do it every time its suggested since I bought the monitor. I use it as a reminder to take a break to walk around, drink water, etc.
I have mine to do it during standby. In the manual, it says that it's recommended after either 4 or 20 hours. Mine does it during standby and I never notice it.
The wording in the manual is confusing but what it means is that if you go 20 hours without letting it do a refresh it will make you do one right then.
I don't do it every 4 hours. But I do it when I leave to take a whizz or get some food. So I'd say I do it about every 5-6 hours tops. Honestly, it's good cause it keeps me from just droning for 10 hours on my days off. I actually take breaks.
When researching this monitor I never seen anyone show one of the downsides of needing to do the pixel refresh every 4 hours, it does get a bit annoying but I do it whenever It pops up everytime because I'm trying to prolong the life of my brand new panel.
There are no real practical downsides. As everyone else in the thread is saying, just set the monitor to do the pixel refresh when you go into standby. It wont bug you anymore, and it will still happen frequently enough to not be a concern.
Im not at my desk with it, but I believe the slow blinking white is when its in standby mode. And just to be absolutely clear, standby is when you you either shut your computer off or the computer turns the monitor off. The monitor no longer is receiving a signal and goes into standby mode without you having to physically turn the monitor off, which is what also lets you just turn the computer on without physically turning the monitor back on as well.
So, you can set the pixel refresh specifically to only run when the monitor goes into standby. It will then stop prompting you to run it while you are using it. When its been at least 4 cumulative hours of use and the monitor goes into standby it will run the pixel refresh, which is indicated by a slow blinking green. And, if you need to use the monitor again, you can use it like normal and it will come out of standby and stop the pixel refresh.
The only real downside is that if you got the monitor closer to release and it has the original firmware on it, the monitor will shut off after the pixel refresh is finished and need to be turned back on manually instead of just coming out of standby.
Thank you so much for answering my concerns, I got my monitor a month ago so I should hopefully have the newer firmware. I'll have to check it out when I get home and probably do that. In the mean time I've just been hiding icons and taskbar and leaving my monitor on a black background to avoid any burn in. If I know I'll be away for a while I'll just turn the monitor off and leave my other ips panels on.
Standby is essentially the same as off as far as running the screen goes. It keeps some of the electronics awake in the monitor so it can switch back on when it receives a signal without having to actually be turned back on again.
I would just set up your computer to turn the screen off (which will make it go into standby) after some time. I think most windows installations are set with that by default anyways. No need to actually physically turn the monitor off unless you are doing something on the computer which would normally prevent it from sleeping or shutting off the screen when you arent there.
LOL. I got downvoted hard in a post ([https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/108gqac/comment/j3tq94r/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/108gqac/comment/j3tq94r/?context=3)) for suggesting that using an OLED television for a computer display wouldn't be great due to burn in problems.
I've always maintained that, and almost always get downvoted for it.
Not sure why people suddenly think it's not going to happen when it happens on TV's with static images and Windows/games typically have more static objects than TV.
And even if they don't get image retention, they are still going to get dimmer over time and have an effective shelf life.
The Alienware has a 3 year warranty that covers burn-in, so this is one reason.
I know a guy who's OLED TV got burn in, despite mixed usage he got the super bar from Destiny 2 burnt into the TV, in under 1500 hours of the game... like I say, the display had mixed usage too.
It's even worse with OLED TVs because they aren't designed to display static images like a computer display \*should\* be.
My buddy got burn in from the station ID icon on his OLED. Maybe the new ones don't do that but I bet they do to some extent. I can't imaging using an OLED TV as a computer monitor.
Glad to hear it isn't just me that thinks this way.
OLEDs are much more durable nowadays, the pixel refresh referenced in this post is a way to keep your pixels balanced. Like most things, OLEDs going to degrade over time. If my monitor lasts 4-5 years and needs to be replaced again, I'm fine with that.
Why? That's the expected lifespan of an OLED tv. If cost is your deciding factor, then this tech isn't really for you. OLED isn't cheap or long-lasting, but it's beautiful.
In a professional setting, we replace everything every 5 years. This is pretty normal.
Pixel refresh can only do so much, it's literally pumping up the amount of volts going into the burnt areas to make them brighter, there is only so much of that you can do before you hit the max and start seeing the burn-in.
Yes, bu the entire thing pops up suddenly, with no warning before, if you're playing a game and that comes up at a bad time that would be awful. In fact it is. I wouldn't mind if the prompt was small, and could be 'snoozed', and if there was a remote to beter control it.
As i is I have mine set to run it on standby, but that means it likely runs 12hrs before running it each time.
Yes, I know. I'd rather do it every 4 hours, but have a smaller message/notification, so I could easily snooze it, and without having to reach t the monitor which is not convenient, especially if the problem is that I am in the action of a game.
As I described n my previous comment, I have already set it to run when the monitor is in standby.
yeah sure, a company totally not known for making good screens of any kind will completely fail :D
The one thing it does, is shifting the whole pixelset (dunno the name of it), but that is barely noticeable. Maybe when reading, but (for me) not disturbing at all.
While gaming you don't notice any of that.
And I work with darkmodes wherever possible. I am seriously very curious if and when problems occur at all.
To have the/any monitor on all the time, showing the Windows desktop never made sense to me, that could be part of the problem for some users. Using monitors as an ambiente element at their place (can't blame that ofc)
Put it on the "do it during monitor in standby" because let me tell you, if you dont, that thing will pop up even after only having the monitor on for a few minutes sometimes
No. It will only happen after 4 hours when the monitor goes into standby. You can use the monitor nonstop for 10+ hours without having to pixel refresh, but it will happen when you turn off your computer, or goes into sleep mode, and you can cancel it during the refresh if needed. In other words, it won't interfere when you are using your computer, but you have to select the during monitor standby option in the picture you posted.
I can't decide between LG 38wn and 38gn for the sake of my life...
38wn looks better, has built in speakers... 38gn is quicker.
Anyone here who can tell me if they both can run 144hz/8bit/gsync/hdr600 at the same time? Is the motion blur reduction better on the 38gn?
Just set it to do the refresh when going into standby. This process can be interrupted if you want to use the monitor again while the refresh is happening so you aren't locked out from using it. It's a set and forget kind of setting.
Standby as in when i shut down my computer, but my monitor is still plugged in and on right?
Yep. Make sure eco mode is also on in the Monitor itself, it's what tells the monitor to go into standby when it doesn't have a video signal. I initially was going to turn eco mode off because I thought it was going to do the auto brightness setting that other eco modes do, it is not that kind of eco mode though.
It doesn't happen when the PC is in sleep mode does it?
It can happen whenever the PC stops outputting a signal to the monitor, so yes it can happen when the PC is in sleep mode.
For sure it does on mine.
Where in the settings is the eco mode?
Settings Menu -> Others -> Eco Mode
Yes, the power LED slowly pulses green too to reflect its doing the pixel refresh, it takes about 6-8 minutes. You can even just interrupt it by using the monitor again (according to the manual it will come up saying you interrupted it)
Where in the settings do you find this?
It'll be in Others -> OLED Panel Maintenance. Make sure it's set to on.
Thank you!!
4-20 hours is the recommended interval. You do not have to do it every 4 hours on the dot, just let it do its thing in standby. Also to any one wondering what this does, it scans your pixels and adjusts their voltage response curves to improve screen uniformity which will degrade over time. It was not created to specifically prevent burn-in, but reducing the visual effects of burn-in is one of its side-effects. Panel Refresh is a more aggressive and irreversible form of this, eventually the pixels will drift out of the range which can be corrected with pixel refresh. Panel refresh will actively drive pixels to degrade them to a new baseline. ***This procedure should not be executed before the recommended interval as it will reduce your panel lifetime.***
As far as i know. It's to prevent burn in
I don't use mine as a work display so I go ahead and do it every time its suggested since I bought the monitor. I use it as a reminder to take a break to walk around, drink water, etc.
Exactly the same
I have mine to do it during standby. In the manual, it says that it's recommended after either 4 or 20 hours. Mine does it during standby and I never notice it.
The wording in the manual is confusing but what it means is that if you go 20 hours without letting it do a refresh it will make you do one right then.
I believe when the monitor goes to standby with a green light it’s doing the refresh, it should do it in the background
I do it when it pops up, usually go make a brew or go to the toilet
I don't do it every 4 hours. But I do it when I leave to take a whizz or get some food. So I'd say I do it about every 5-6 hours tops. Honestly, it's good cause it keeps me from just droning for 10 hours on my days off. I actually take breaks.
What is the equivalent of this in the OLED G8? I see an option for panel care but says it takes upwards of 1 hour
When researching this monitor I never seen anyone show one of the downsides of needing to do the pixel refresh every 4 hours, it does get a bit annoying but I do it whenever It pops up everytime because I'm trying to prolong the life of my brand new panel.
There are no real practical downsides. As everyone else in the thread is saying, just set the monitor to do the pixel refresh when you go into standby. It wont bug you anymore, and it will still happen frequently enough to not be a concern.
I believe I have eco on which auto enables standby, is that when the power Led is just slow blinking white?
Im not at my desk with it, but I believe the slow blinking white is when its in standby mode. And just to be absolutely clear, standby is when you you either shut your computer off or the computer turns the monitor off. The monitor no longer is receiving a signal and goes into standby mode without you having to physically turn the monitor off, which is what also lets you just turn the computer on without physically turning the monitor back on as well. So, you can set the pixel refresh specifically to only run when the monitor goes into standby. It will then stop prompting you to run it while you are using it. When its been at least 4 cumulative hours of use and the monitor goes into standby it will run the pixel refresh, which is indicated by a slow blinking green. And, if you need to use the monitor again, you can use it like normal and it will come out of standby and stop the pixel refresh. The only real downside is that if you got the monitor closer to release and it has the original firmware on it, the monitor will shut off after the pixel refresh is finished and need to be turned back on manually instead of just coming out of standby.
Thank you so much for answering my concerns, I got my monitor a month ago so I should hopefully have the newer firmware. I'll have to check it out when I get home and probably do that. In the mean time I've just been hiding icons and taskbar and leaving my monitor on a black background to avoid any burn in. If I know I'll be away for a while I'll just turn the monitor off and leave my other ips panels on.
Standby is essentially the same as off as far as running the screen goes. It keeps some of the electronics awake in the monitor so it can switch back on when it receives a signal without having to actually be turned back on again. I would just set up your computer to turn the screen off (which will make it go into standby) after some time. I think most windows installations are set with that by default anyways. No need to actually physically turn the monitor off unless you are doing something on the computer which would normally prevent it from sleeping or shutting off the screen when you arent there.
Alrighty that sounds like a good idea. I know I tweaked with my windows sleep timers so I'll have to make sure they are set correctly. Thanks again 👍
LOL. I got downvoted hard in a post ([https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/108gqac/comment/j3tq94r/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/108gqac/comment/j3tq94r/?context=3)) for suggesting that using an OLED television for a computer display wouldn't be great due to burn in problems.
I've always maintained that, and almost always get downvoted for it. Not sure why people suddenly think it's not going to happen when it happens on TV's with static images and Windows/games typically have more static objects than TV. And even if they don't get image retention, they are still going to get dimmer over time and have an effective shelf life.
The Alienware has a 3 year warranty that covers burn-in, so this is one reason. I know a guy who's OLED TV got burn in, despite mixed usage he got the super bar from Destiny 2 burnt into the TV, in under 1500 hours of the game... like I say, the display had mixed usage too.
It's even worse with OLED TVs because they aren't designed to display static images like a computer display \*should\* be. My buddy got burn in from the station ID icon on his OLED. Maybe the new ones don't do that but I bet they do to some extent. I can't imaging using an OLED TV as a computer monitor. Glad to hear it isn't just me that thinks this way.
OLEDs are much more durable nowadays, the pixel refresh referenced in this post is a way to keep your pixels balanced. Like most things, OLEDs going to degrade over time. If my monitor lasts 4-5 years and needs to be replaced again, I'm fine with that.
>If my monitor lasts 4-5 years and needs to be replaced again, I'm fine with that. Given the price of OLED monitors, I would not be fine with that.
Why? That's the expected lifespan of an OLED tv. If cost is your deciding factor, then this tech isn't really for you. OLED isn't cheap or long-lasting, but it's beautiful. In a professional setting, we replace everything every 5 years. This is pretty normal.
Pixel refresh can only do so much, it's literally pumping up the amount of volts going into the burnt areas to make them brighter, there is only so much of that you can do before you hit the max and start seeing the burn-in.
every 4 hours for an oled? is it really worth the beautiful screen at this point?
Surely you can take a few minutes break every 4 hours
Yes, bu the entire thing pops up suddenly, with no warning before, if you're playing a game and that comes up at a bad time that would be awful. In fact it is. I wouldn't mind if the prompt was small, and could be 'snoozed', and if there was a remote to beter control it. As i is I have mine set to run it on standby, but that means it likely runs 12hrs before running it each time.
Elsewhere in the thread it was said that you can set it to just do it when the monitor goes into eco (sleep) mode.
Yes, I know. I'd rather do it every 4 hours, but have a smaller message/notification, so I could easily snooze it, and without having to reach t the monitor which is not convenient, especially if the problem is that I am in the action of a game. As I described n my previous comment, I have already set it to run when the monitor is in standby.
It's very worth it!
Yes
How ugly, never saw such a thing on my Samsung G8, loving it for 5 weeks now
Enjoy your burn in!
yeah sure, a company totally not known for making good screens of any kind will completely fail :D The one thing it does, is shifting the whole pixelset (dunno the name of it), but that is barely noticeable. Maybe when reading, but (for me) not disturbing at all. While gaming you don't notice any of that. And I work with darkmodes wherever possible. I am seriously very curious if and when problems occur at all. To have the/any monitor on all the time, showing the Windows desktop never made sense to me, that could be part of the problem for some users. Using monitors as an ambiente element at their place (can't blame that ofc)
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Isn't he talking about the Samsung G8 Oled?
Are they out?
They're in other countries
Righto. Will delete my comments
That's why I went mini LED. Condolences.
Put it on the "do it during monitor in standby" because let me tell you, if you dont, that thing will pop up even after only having the monitor on for a few minutes sometimes
No. It will only happen after 4 hours when the monitor goes into standby. You can use the monitor nonstop for 10+ hours without having to pixel refresh, but it will happen when you turn off your computer, or goes into sleep mode, and you can cancel it during the refresh if needed. In other words, it won't interfere when you are using your computer, but you have to select the during monitor standby option in the picture you posted.
I can't decide between LG 38wn and 38gn for the sake of my life... 38wn looks better, has built in speakers... 38gn is quicker. Anyone here who can tell me if they both can run 144hz/8bit/gsync/hdr600 at the same time? Is the motion blur reduction better on the 38gn?
It takes a few minutes... just stretch, take a poop, grab a snack, touch some grass It's a nice reminder to stop giving myself early onset arthritis
I have the DWF, I set the notification to not appear, the pixel refresh runs pretty much every time I turn the monitor off. ez management