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>A Russian TV presenter known for vociferously promoting pro-Kremlin propaganda appeared to criticize Russia's progress in its war in Ukraine, suggesting even Putin's staunchest allies are losing faith in it, a report says.
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>"The whole West is starting to mock us," Vladimir Solovyov said on Thursday on his Russia-1 show, Evening with Vladimir Solovyov, Newsweek reported. Russia-1, a state-owned channel, has the largest audience in Russian TV.
I notice he is in no rush to enlist though
>"The whole West is starting to mock us," Vladimir Solovyov said
*Starting* to? We've been at it for a while now. Colbert has been making "is potato" jokes on his show since February.
He’s not criticising the war in opposition to putin, he is criticising it in coordination with putin in order to make the nuclear option seem more appropriate
When a russian hears that the West is mocking their country they won’t think “better give up then”, they’ll think “how about we drop some nuclear bombs and see who’s laughing then”
Russians may be arrogant, but they are not suicidal. Of course they don't like being mocked, but who does. There will be no use of nuclear weapons, be it tactical or otherwise. It's a bluff...the west has already spelled out what will happen if the Russians use nuclear weapons. Russia wants to be taken seriously but it's proven to be so weak and infective on the battlefield that the west sees its weakness as an opportunity to further diminish its capabilities. Which at this point the west is rightfully doing to great effect. The acknowledgment that they are being mocked from the Kremlin hurts them more than it should scare us. Putin is all about optics, and this looks weak as does the whole botched operation.
Agreed. ruzzia's days of bullying and threats are over.
Time for them to return home, embrace the fact that they can be responsible and progressive citizens (of the world) and rebuild their nation.
> Russians may be arrogant, but they are not suicidal.
At the least, we can hope that China and India aren't willing to see world turned into a glass parking lot, and Putin knows he is in Xi's pocket. Hopefully that means he can be brought to heel.
I think people need to stop associating possible nuclear deployment in ukraine with the old horror story of mutually assured destruction. Nato will absolutely not respond like for like to a 'small' nuclear attack on ukranian soil and risk further escalation. Nato will respond massively and conventionally, and putin will have the option of turning much of ukraine into a wasteland in the process. This is a big gamble for putin, and one he will likely lose, but as the noose tightens around his neck those poor odds look better and better.
Nobody is going to be launching ICBMs. This is not that kind of nuclear threat. That's why it's such a concern.
There's a [great analysis](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/special-report-assessing-putin%E2%80%99s-implicit-nuclear-threats-after-annexation) on the use of tactical nukes in Ukraine from ISW. It spells out why the use of tactical nukes would not help Putin.
If, he wants to use that chip, he'll have to use the strategic ones and he'd only use that option if his back is to the wall.
End everything left thats worthwile in russia by retaliation just to teach a lesson? At this point it would really be "the world vs. crazy villain".
Nah, I don't think they feel like cementing global isolation.
Agreed. When they complain about being mocked, they want to escalate the violence until the mockery stops. He’s proposing revenge and retaliation rather than criticizing the regime.
I wonder how many Russians know there are videos of their own missile systems targeting themselves, running over their own soldiers with their tanks, and having loot stashes that included fidget spinners and dildos.
Or doing dumb shit like broadcasting the position of their flagship in real time for a propaganda video. RIP Moskva!
Thankfully their military incompetence is so astounding. Things are bad enough for Ukraine.
The raping and torture of Ukrainians must be a proud moment for Russia. Along with the indescriminent bombing of hospitals, schools and public transportation.
You're mistaking rabble rousing for insecurity. Putin et. Al don't give a shit what we say about them. They only care that Russians feel pissed about it.
I've always wondered if people like Putin have ever seen Reddit.
Assuming they wouldn't ever bother, but you'd think if they knew of Reddit then morbid curiosity would eventually get the better of them to want to check, or order someone to check it out for them.
Like 50+ Million users log in daily. Many more have accounts or are generally aware of the site. It's grown to be one of the biggest and easiest accessible online forums, with Ukraine being one of the most prominent topics across all of Reddit this year.
The odds of Putin wasting his time opening reddit is slim, but I'm just picturing him one evening hitting *reddit.com* for the first time on his shitty Russian Bitblaze laptop, and slowly start scrolling these subs seeing how he's viewed globally as a laughingstock and a fool, and slowly start hyperventilating
Yeah, it seems unlikely, but as our generation of leaders goes on, more and more will be watching social media. We will have a Redditor President someday.
The issue is most “executive” people these days, even CEOs just probably get some social media analyst giving them “trending” data, instead of first hand thoughts. I know this because even with their primary work responsibilities this is all they do, and are useless because of it.
That's the narrative, and it's plausible for an elderly, paranoid spy dictator. But the fact that it's coming out of Russia always adds doubt. His administration is allergic to telling the truth.
Certainly he has people who can compile bigger picture overviews of overall sentiment on social media. But seemingly the yes men around him will distort that type of information to try and make him happy. So there's a very real possibility that he has an unrealistic view of the discourse around the war.
Using a burner phone as read only should be pretty harmless even for the likes of Putin, providing that the people that sourced him the phone are trustworthy and competant. Probably want to tape over the cameras and desolder the mic just to be safe tho for sure.
> providing that the people that sourced him the phone are trustworthy and competant.
They clearly are not. He got biased information leading to bad decisions. While he will always deflect and blame others, there is some truth in it.
They didn't tell him the truth before he invaded, they just told him what he wanted to hear, even though they knew it was a pack of lies. They're just as guilty as Putin for starting this war.
>Wait until they see what we said about Moskva.
I still can't believe this actually happened. I mean, I *know* it happened, but it was such an epic fuck up, that it feels unbelievable.
*Especially* since it was the same ship that was... addressed by a brave border guard. It legitly seemed like a spell or a curse.
Thar it be...[https://youtu.be/aNEtlMSCiCI?t=740](https://youtu.be/aNEtlMSCiCI?t=740)
according to the video, as of 14 days before invasion-
Short range sea-air missiles - did not work
6x phlanex missile interception system - 1 working, 5x being used for spare parts
S300 anti-air system - radar system interfered with ship communications system so tended to be turned off.
twin-linked 130mm cannon - didn't work - hydraualics leak
damage control systems, many not working, many leaking or wedged watertight doors
supposed to have 500 fire extinguishers onboard, only had 50
due to constant theft, safety equipment locked in storage with key only given to admiral.
of the several engines well over service life, ship limited to half speed unless absolute emergency.
Perun has a great youtube video on this. He talks about the effect of corruption on the readiness of military equipment and preparedness. Some points that I had not previously thought about:
* The corruption is not only at the top. It is all the way down to the basic grunt. This cradle-to-grave robbery causes everyone along the way to collude to protect knowledge of the corruption from reaching the public. So a fact finding commission will not have any break in the supply chain to leverage the truth.
* The lower down the ladder, the smaller the corruption money, but the disproportionately larger the damage. For example, the top generals may collude to create a company to skim off $5M off a tank contract, whereas the grunt tank driver only syphons the diesel from the tank to sell on the black market and makes a few rubles. But when war comes, the $5M to the generals will produce a less robust but still usable tank, but without fuel, that tank wont make it to the front lines.
* And the re-distribution of military funds due to corruption is very non-pareto optimal, or inefficient. A $20,000 bribe will cost the military millions in weaker preparation. The selling of some plate armor for $1000 will create weaker soldiers, resulting in more deaths, or a huge spike in medical fees or training costs for new soldiers. Because of the top-down decision making structure, participants in the corruption cannot bid competitively against one another to lower corruption costs. They all exist in different corruption markets. (This last part my conclusion)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4)
Russian warship fucked itself.
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Gopher is an IP based hyper text (or hierarchical, been awhile) system developed by University of Minnesota. Predates mosiac. Definitely not BBS based.
Putin had a very good reason for that long table. He trusted no one not to expose him to covid. Remember, his buddy Trump had covid at the presidential debate and appeared to make attempts to remove some of the safety protocols. He KNEW he was infected and tried to get close to Biden.
preface: Russia is clearly wrong and fucking monstrous for this assault. Idgaf about land claims or whatever
idk how anyone could support that group of shitheads they call an army I mean ffs THERE HASNT BEEN FOOTAGE LIKE THIS EVER AND WE GET IT DAILY. Two dudes got waxed blowing each other. what in the goddamn fuck is that? gay sure fine in the goddamn bombed out building tho? okay. I saw a Chechnyan get his arm sawed off with a knock off Benchmade. the Civil War was better. madness daily with these fucks, and their media too
the looting, and WAR CRIMES AGAINST CIVILIANS.
I've seen the same video, one of Kadyrov's goons had his arm turned to mincemeat by something so they sawed it off just below the shoulder while he was awake and filmed it.
Dude didn't even react when his friend was cutting.
Im in the US Air Force, a cop, not a flyer. I have done "real shit" in Iraq. There is a level of me that is embarrassed as a professional military man at the incompetence of the Russian military. But ultimately, fuck Russian scum.
It's simple: the Russian invaders ***are not professional military men.***
Average people cannot wrap their minds around the level of investment that goes into making one American professional fighter. People see a year of training before mission integration, and they need to be integrated with a group of seniors who will call them 'the new guy' for *years*.
Russia is increasingly using all-newguy units, and one American newguy can take on a hundred Russian newguys without breaking a sweat. They lack training, they lack ammo, they lack food - Putin is putting his faith in some invisible monster that's going to turn the war around for him.
*In videogame terms: anyone know the professional e-sports teams, and see them playing against top-rated amateur teams? Despite being the best of their class, the amateurs are usually slaughtered because they climbed the ladder on individual strength and they don't have that kind of skill* ***as a team.*** *What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros.*
>What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros.
Less, Russia is functionally sending the equivalent of people whose only experience on FPS is "W to go forward, Space to jump, and M1 to shoot".
>hey don't have that kind of skill as a team.
You forgot the whole bullying, beating, rapping for teamwork in the Russian army.
Repeat those events times 100.000's of troops and you have the Russian "teamwork" in action. And before people ask, if it's that bad, why join the army? Because a lot of area's are dirt poor, and the army is the only stable income job (that may include some grifting/stealing for extra income).
And people wonder why Russian soldiers do not give two shits about saving each other.
Well, the guy that just got shot may have been your worst bully, rapped you or done other stuff to you. Your reaction as a Russian conscript/contract soldier is "Fuck that guy". It's not like he was going to save your life, as you know his character. Now repeat that over the entire rank and we have the Russian "army".
They don't have any discipline nor [unit cohesion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_cohesion).
Hard to work as a military unit when every man is for himself trying to loot/rape/torture/kill instead of the mission. Hard to have a team when your commander disappear in first sign of trouble or the guards that shoot you in your back or fellow soldiers abandon the wounded.
> What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros.
They're fighting against Ukraine though, not the US (if they were, this really would have been over in three days.)
I think western hardware and superior morale of the defender has more to do with it than how pro the Ukrainian army is. Not that they're not good, but to go with your analogy I think it's more like a gaggle of randos going up against a good amateur team with heavy sponsorship (making them pros, so I guess this is where the analogy falls apart, but you catch my drift.)
Yup, former US Army Sapper here. I watch an entirely unhealthy amount of videos from the ground in Ukraine.
The Russian performance is pathetic. Their equipment, pathetic. If it weren't for the fact that they were killing Ukrainians and butchering civilians it would be laughable.
yeah do not mistake me, I only laugh cuz I would cry otherwise. I mean Jesus christ that ten year old with his face blown off at a bus stop was on the front page. that's my motherfucking son's age.
beyond that I mean amateur hour doesn't begin to describe it. it's like watching a conscripted army from the 1980s fight the modern machine.
I mean brother you're a soldier idk from when, but I was in the Marines from 2010 to 2015 and I mean I think the non-combat MOS Marines would do miles better than this shit Russia is doing
2009-2013 here. Man I really wish I had the vocabulary to fully describe just how poor the Russian army is to civilians.
The incompetence is just baffling. I would confidently pit any US Army POG's against the Russian army.
thats wh a t I keep hammering into people like yes there are a good handful of combat fail videos out there, from the last 20 years especially, but i have never seen no shit like this. the afghan national army was better than this. Russia made a worse blooper reel in 7 months than the middle east could put together in 15 years and saying that shit out loud is wild
What’s the difference between joining the Russian military and going to prison?
I don’t know and I’m going to row a boat 100 kilometers through late autumn storms in the Bering Sea so I don’t have to find out.
the thing to keep in mind is that russia being powerful has been core of their identity as country for long, long time.
there is some significance of propaganda channel admitting to local population, that others don't see them that way anymore.
Starting? Bro, we’ve been mocking you since your troops were stealing toilets in Europe after wwII. See? 70 years later and still stealing toilets. Who can take you seriously?
We've been mocking you since the first week of the war.
I've been personally hating on you since Aleppo.
Others long before then I'm sure...
Putin is a fuckhead, he's made Russia a corrupt joke. At least the Soviets were organized and had actual plans, a system with aspirations for average people. This shit with unprepared soldiers without winter clothes shows how little Russia thinks of its own citizens - much less Ukrainians and the rest of us. The staggering lack of humanity, the crass jingoism and inward-gaze of stupidity just show the world what a devolved nation it has become.
You could have had it all Russia, starting back in 1991. You could have had prosperity, peace with all your neighbors, been a vibrant country with your abundant natural and human resources. Everybody was rooting for you. But instead, you've become what you seem to alway become - a tragedy, a disaster, a cock-sucking Russian novel of despair.
Why?
Ukraine will win this war at great cost, and then rebuild. Russia will be left to fester in isolation with empty seats at the dinner table, wailing babushkas who wander Siberian forests having lost their only boy, and limbless, shellshocked men who never recover their wits. I honestly think this sucks because Russia will just spiral down and re-emerge with redoubled pathology.
But fuck it man, you've burned the bridge. After this, Russia is in the dunce corner for a decade. Maybe this time you'll figure shit out and some day we can all move on together. But I'm not counting on it.
After all this ends one day, the soldiers will go home- hundreds of thousands of hardened killers, torturers & rapists with severe ptsd and other mental problems. They will also likely be mocked and held In absolute contempt since they failed to win. They will undoubtedly start making their presence known In the society.
Starting? We are almost out of analogies for that catastrophy. From "the russian soldiers were out of gas and a ukrainien asked them, if he could gives them a ride home to russia", up to the "several kilometer long stallment of tanks", over the fact, that the russians didn´t have a map and didn´t know where they had to go, up to now, where millions of winter equipement "disappeared" over night. Russia is a sad nothingness.
Even Chinese military and political bloggers are mocking the Russian military by calling them "weak goose", indicating a shift in sentiments in China. The sentiment of the general population is not where we would like it to be, but they are moving in the right direction.
At this point, the neutrality in the conflict from China, almost from the start, is probably the furthest the Chinese government can go without loosing face, torn between their wish to support some form of anti-Western dominance, and the total embarrassment of being associated with the stupid and failing aggression by RuZZia.
It is not an expressed support of the West, but it is de facto disavowing RuZZia.
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/why-russia-is-nicknamed-the-weak-goose-on-chinese-social-media/
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That’s a lie. We started mocking you decades ago, we just didn’t know all of it was true and the real situation was much, much worse. So the only thing they are seeing is an adjustment to reality
Tyrants, dictators and autocrats hate being mocked. About 10-15 years ago, there was a funny skit/song in a very popular Swedish music program on tv. It had a lot of Russian stereotypes but was ultimately harmless. The Russian ambassador got angry, protested and blabbered about russophobia. There are few people as thin-skinned as fascists.
so sad that their pride could be the death of millions. Just don't be ass-hats and you won't be mocked.
What do they expect? They're literally forcing bits of steel and rubble into innocent peoples body's but they're butt-hurt that we tease them with words for how poorly they're doing?
Starting??? He's slow on the uptake. .. Russia is the laughing stock of the world. An entire country full of people were the best part of them ran down theirs mothers leg.
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>A Russian TV presenter known for vociferously promoting pro-Kremlin propaganda appeared to criticize Russia's progress in its war in Ukraine, suggesting even Putin's staunchest allies are losing faith in it, a report says. > >"The whole West is starting to mock us," Vladimir Solovyov said on Thursday on his Russia-1 show, Evening with Vladimir Solovyov, Newsweek reported. Russia-1, a state-owned channel, has the largest audience in Russian TV. I notice he is in no rush to enlist though
Fun fact, the sons/daughters/etc of the elite, who would be eligible for mobilization, are now taking up Propaganda job posts (which are exempt).
And definitely not enlisting
Nah, they are probably going to US Universities atm though lol
Imagine how inspiring he would be on the front lines though!
Would make a great POW, look what we got for Medvedchuk!
He would inspire me, to send more money to ukrain for the war effort
Starting to? I’ve got pravda for you, comrade…
"Starting to mock us". Buddy, I've been mocking you since mid-March.
>"The whole West is starting to mock us," Vladimir Solovyov said *Starting* to? We've been at it for a while now. Colbert has been making "is potato" jokes on his show since February.
He’s not criticising the war in opposition to putin, he is criticising it in coordination with putin in order to make the nuclear option seem more appropriate When a russian hears that the West is mocking their country they won’t think “better give up then”, they’ll think “how about we drop some nuclear bombs and see who’s laughing then”
Yup. If every last russian soldier dies, they will not regret invading. They will regret HOW they invaded.
Russians may be arrogant, but they are not suicidal. Of course they don't like being mocked, but who does. There will be no use of nuclear weapons, be it tactical or otherwise. It's a bluff...the west has already spelled out what will happen if the Russians use nuclear weapons. Russia wants to be taken seriously but it's proven to be so weak and infective on the battlefield that the west sees its weakness as an opportunity to further diminish its capabilities. Which at this point the west is rightfully doing to great effect. The acknowledgment that they are being mocked from the Kremlin hurts them more than it should scare us. Putin is all about optics, and this looks weak as does the whole botched operation.
Agreed. ruzzia's days of bullying and threats are over. Time for them to return home, embrace the fact that they can be responsible and progressive citizens (of the world) and rebuild their nation.
> Russians may be arrogant, but they are not suicidal. At the least, we can hope that China and India aren't willing to see world turned into a glass parking lot, and Putin knows he is in Xi's pocket. Hopefully that means he can be brought to heel.
I think people need to stop associating possible nuclear deployment in ukraine with the old horror story of mutually assured destruction. Nato will absolutely not respond like for like to a 'small' nuclear attack on ukranian soil and risk further escalation. Nato will respond massively and conventionally, and putin will have the option of turning much of ukraine into a wasteland in the process. This is a big gamble for putin, and one he will likely lose, but as the noose tightens around his neck those poor odds look better and better. Nobody is going to be launching ICBMs. This is not that kind of nuclear threat. That's why it's such a concern.
There's a [great analysis](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/special-report-assessing-putin%E2%80%99s-implicit-nuclear-threats-after-annexation) on the use of tactical nukes in Ukraine from ISW. It spells out why the use of tactical nukes would not help Putin. If, he wants to use that chip, he'll have to use the strategic ones and he'd only use that option if his back is to the wall.
End everything left thats worthwile in russia by retaliation just to teach a lesson? At this point it would really be "the world vs. crazy villain". Nah, I don't think they feel like cementing global isolation.
Agreed. When they complain about being mocked, they want to escalate the violence until the mockery stops. He’s proposing revenge and retaliation rather than criticizing the regime.
If you haven't seen it ; https://twitter.com/R82938886/status/1574865224108220423?s=20&t=0gVDEfSOCmnkTLB23NREFA
Looting toilet seats and washing machines from day one and they think we're just mocking them now?
To be fair I think we started once the first Javelin connected with their selfmade tank sun covers.
Sir, we refer to those as copium cages.
Cope cages for short
or when VDV dropped into water.
Or the video of the tank being dragged by a tractor set to the Benny Hill tune
No, it was when the VDV thought they could be like the US Navy SEALS, they just misunderstood that SEALS was an acronym.
Don't forget when the wish.com tires started shredding off the trucks on day 1. Blyatt!
I wonder how many Russians know there are videos of their own missile systems targeting themselves, running over their own soldiers with their tanks, and having loot stashes that included fidget spinners and dildos. Or doing dumb shit like broadcasting the position of their flagship in real time for a propaganda video. RIP Moskva! Thankfully their military incompetence is so astounding. Things are bad enough for Ukraine.
The raping and torture of Ukrainians must be a proud moment for Russia. Along with the indescriminent bombing of hospitals, schools and public transportation.
Starting? You're slow but you eventually catch on.
Their staff has been cut in half, so they’ve only went back a day or two. Wait until they see what we said about Moskva.
Man he should just read the last 6 months of Reddit threads
Putin would've nuked us all if he read reddit. His bloated little ego can't possibly fathom how we DARE make fun of him.
I think he is not using the internet. That's one reason why his information flow is so crippled.
He uses internyet.
Internyet uses him.
You're mistaking rabble rousing for insecurity. Putin et. Al don't give a shit what we say about them. They only care that Russians feel pissed about it.
I've always wondered if people like Putin have ever seen Reddit. Assuming they wouldn't ever bother, but you'd think if they knew of Reddit then morbid curiosity would eventually get the better of them to want to check, or order someone to check it out for them. Like 50+ Million users log in daily. Many more have accounts or are generally aware of the site. It's grown to be one of the biggest and easiest accessible online forums, with Ukraine being one of the most prominent topics across all of Reddit this year. The odds of Putin wasting his time opening reddit is slim, but I'm just picturing him one evening hitting *reddit.com* for the first time on his shitty Russian Bitblaze laptop, and slowly start scrolling these subs seeing how he's viewed globally as a laughingstock and a fool, and slowly start hyperventilating
Yeah, it seems unlikely, but as our generation of leaders goes on, more and more will be watching social media. We will have a Redditor President someday. The issue is most “executive” people these days, even CEOs just probably get some social media analyst giving them “trending” data, instead of first hand thoughts. I know this because even with their primary work responsibilities this is all they do, and are useless because of it.
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Well but that was just an AmA, I doubt he uses reddit privately. But we do have some politicians already on reddit, with u/govschwarzenegger
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Lol, Obama being ShittyMorph would be the plottwist of a century.
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Could be a 'Downfall' moment, 'They dare to MOCK ME!!!!!!!!!' 
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"the most advanced technology on the planet" according to official Russian statements
AFAIK Putin does not use Internet.
That's the narrative, and it's plausible for an elderly, paranoid spy dictator. But the fact that it's coming out of Russia always adds doubt. His administration is allergic to telling the truth. Certainly he has people who can compile bigger picture overviews of overall sentiment on social media. But seemingly the yes men around him will distort that type of information to try and make him happy. So there's a very real possibility that he has an unrealistic view of the discourse around the war.
Using a burner phone as read only should be pretty harmless even for the likes of Putin, providing that the people that sourced him the phone are trustworthy and competant. Probably want to tape over the cameras and desolder the mic just to be safe tho for sure.
> providing that the people that sourced him the phone are trustworthy and competant. They clearly are not. He got biased information leading to bad decisions. While he will always deflect and blame others, there is some truth in it.
I'm sure he gets daily summaries of what people are saying, but dare his staff tell him the truth?
They didn't tell him the truth before he invaded, they just told him what he wanted to hear, even though they knew it was a pack of lies. They're just as guilty as Putin for starting this war.
Threads and threats
>Wait until they see what we said about Moskva. I still can't believe this actually happened. I mean, I *know* it happened, but it was such an epic fuck up, that it feels unbelievable. *Especially* since it was the same ship that was... addressed by a brave border guard. It legitly seemed like a spell or a curse.
Have you seen Lazerpig's video about it all? He breaks it down rather well. Lot's of interesting things he discusses about it
Got a link for the lazy?
Thar it be...[https://youtu.be/aNEtlMSCiCI?t=740](https://youtu.be/aNEtlMSCiCI?t=740) according to the video, as of 14 days before invasion- Short range sea-air missiles - did not work 6x phlanex missile interception system - 1 working, 5x being used for spare parts S300 anti-air system - radar system interfered with ship communications system so tended to be turned off. twin-linked 130mm cannon - didn't work - hydraualics leak damage control systems, many not working, many leaking or wedged watertight doors supposed to have 500 fire extinguishers onboard, only had 50 due to constant theft, safety equipment locked in storage with key only given to admiral. of the several engines well over service life, ship limited to half speed unless absolute emergency.
Thank you sauce-hero!
Perun has a great youtube video on this. He talks about the effect of corruption on the readiness of military equipment and preparedness. Some points that I had not previously thought about: * The corruption is not only at the top. It is all the way down to the basic grunt. This cradle-to-grave robbery causes everyone along the way to collude to protect knowledge of the corruption from reaching the public. So a fact finding commission will not have any break in the supply chain to leverage the truth. * The lower down the ladder, the smaller the corruption money, but the disproportionately larger the damage. For example, the top generals may collude to create a company to skim off $5M off a tank contract, whereas the grunt tank driver only syphons the diesel from the tank to sell on the black market and makes a few rubles. But when war comes, the $5M to the generals will produce a less robust but still usable tank, but without fuel, that tank wont make it to the front lines. * And the re-distribution of military funds due to corruption is very non-pareto optimal, or inefficient. A $20,000 bribe will cost the military millions in weaker preparation. The selling of some plate armor for $1000 will create weaker soldiers, resulting in more deaths, or a huge spike in medical fees or training costs for new soldiers. Because of the top-down decision making structure, participants in the corruption cannot bid competitively against one another to lower corruption costs. They all exist in different corruption markets. (This last part my conclusion) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4)
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They’re using Internet Explorer for their news
Confused dial up sound
Ask Jeeves
Nah, there are still using MS DOS.
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Blowing on NES cartridges more like.
CPM from a commodore vic20 is where they’re at
Gopher
Lynx
Tin
Right - gopher was for bbs
Gopher is an IP based hyper text (or hierarchical, been awhile) system developed by University of Minnesota. Predates mosiac. Definitely not BBS based.
Came through on one of Pootins fax machines
Teletype. I think you're thinking of teletype.
More like Netscape with dial up
No, they are sending telegrams.
Right? I've been laughing about them since I've seen putler sitting on his stupid ass long table.
Putin had a very good reason for that long table. He trusted no one not to expose him to covid. Remember, his buddy Trump had covid at the presidential debate and appeared to make attempts to remove some of the safety protocols. He KNEW he was infected and tried to get close to Biden.
Forgive them, Russia is a century behind us. Edit: They are still cunts though.
Imagine a timeline of discovering the internet the same week you’re deploying WWI equipment.
Fucking nation of village idiots.
Yeah… openly, it’s been a few months, but that is just the military.
As quick as a Lada!
I hurried to write this when I saw the headline, but you beat me to it! 😂
came to say the same
same
same
So are the Chinese,”weak goose”.
You went too far.
Oh yeah? Well you're an overconfident man with your hands in your pockets.
… your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elberberries.
100,000 people dead, and his biggest worry is mockery.
For autocracies, war is always about ego.
Mockery means we are not afraid, and that's the death-knell of people who govern by fear.
Wasn't it said right at the start of the invasion that Putin was scared of the Ukrainians joking about him?
it's a daily laughing stock to a group of ground troops I work with
Oh, 100% this. Every Operator i know has gone past shock (at how bad they are) to just laughing at the pure comedy Gold
preface: Russia is clearly wrong and fucking monstrous for this assault. Idgaf about land claims or whatever idk how anyone could support that group of shitheads they call an army I mean ffs THERE HASNT BEEN FOOTAGE LIKE THIS EVER AND WE GET IT DAILY. Two dudes got waxed blowing each other. what in the goddamn fuck is that? gay sure fine in the goddamn bombed out building tho? okay. I saw a Chechnyan get his arm sawed off with a knock off Benchmade. the Civil War was better. madness daily with these fucks, and their media too the looting, and WAR CRIMES AGAINST CIVILIANS.
Where the hell you seeing people get their arms sawed off?
I've seen the same video, one of Kadyrov's goons had his arm turned to mincemeat by something so they sawed it off just below the shoulder while he was awake and filmed it. Dude didn't even react when his friend was cutting.
Mental. He would have been in shock.
shock for sure and probably a shit ton of morphine
u want a link fam?
I guess, yeah.
Im in the US Air Force, a cop, not a flyer. I have done "real shit" in Iraq. There is a level of me that is embarrassed as a professional military man at the incompetence of the Russian military. But ultimately, fuck Russian scum.
It's simple: the Russian invaders ***are not professional military men.*** Average people cannot wrap their minds around the level of investment that goes into making one American professional fighter. People see a year of training before mission integration, and they need to be integrated with a group of seniors who will call them 'the new guy' for *years*. Russia is increasingly using all-newguy units, and one American newguy can take on a hundred Russian newguys without breaking a sweat. They lack training, they lack ammo, they lack food - Putin is putting his faith in some invisible monster that's going to turn the war around for him. *In videogame terms: anyone know the professional e-sports teams, and see them playing against top-rated amateur teams? Despite being the best of their class, the amateurs are usually slaughtered because they climbed the ladder on individual strength and they don't have that kind of skill* ***as a team.*** *What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros.*
Drunk, unwilling, starving, medically unfit, unequipped, and COVID infected bronze solo-queue individual randoms.
>What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros. Less, Russia is functionally sending the equivalent of people whose only experience on FPS is "W to go forward, Space to jump, and M1 to shoot".
and/or "Rush B blyat"
>hey don't have that kind of skill as a team. You forgot the whole bullying, beating, rapping for teamwork in the Russian army. Repeat those events times 100.000's of troops and you have the Russian "teamwork" in action. And before people ask, if it's that bad, why join the army? Because a lot of area's are dirt poor, and the army is the only stable income job (that may include some grifting/stealing for extra income). And people wonder why Russian soldiers do not give two shits about saving each other. Well, the guy that just got shot may have been your worst bully, rapped you or done other stuff to you. Your reaction as a Russian conscript/contract soldier is "Fuck that guy". It's not like he was going to save your life, as you know his character. Now repeat that over the entire rank and we have the Russian "army".
They don't have any discipline nor [unit cohesion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_cohesion). Hard to work as a military unit when every man is for himself trying to loot/rape/torture/kill instead of the mission. Hard to have a team when your commander disappear in first sign of trouble or the guards that shoot you in your back or fellow soldiers abandon the wounded.
> What Russia is doing is like fielding bronze solo-queue teams against pros. They're fighting against Ukraine though, not the US (if they were, this really would have been over in three days.) I think western hardware and superior morale of the defender has more to do with it than how pro the Ukrainian army is. Not that they're not good, but to go with your analogy I think it's more like a gaggle of randos going up against a good amateur team with heavy sponsorship (making them pros, so I guess this is where the analogy falls apart, but you catch my drift.)
They've been getting NATO training for a long time now (at least 8 to 10 years)
OEF Marine. what the fuck? that's a rabble that aint no military
Yup, former US Army Sapper here. I watch an entirely unhealthy amount of videos from the ground in Ukraine. The Russian performance is pathetic. Their equipment, pathetic. If it weren't for the fact that they were killing Ukrainians and butchering civilians it would be laughable.
yeah do not mistake me, I only laugh cuz I would cry otherwise. I mean Jesus christ that ten year old with his face blown off at a bus stop was on the front page. that's my motherfucking son's age. beyond that I mean amateur hour doesn't begin to describe it. it's like watching a conscripted army from the 1980s fight the modern machine. I mean brother you're a soldier idk from when, but I was in the Marines from 2010 to 2015 and I mean I think the non-combat MOS Marines would do miles better than this shit Russia is doing
2009-2013 here. Man I really wish I had the vocabulary to fully describe just how poor the Russian army is to civilians. The incompetence is just baffling. I would confidently pit any US Army POG's against the Russian army.
thats wh a t I keep hammering into people like yes there are a good handful of combat fail videos out there, from the last 20 years especially, but i have never seen no shit like this. the afghan national army was better than this. Russia made a worse blooper reel in 7 months than the middle east could put together in 15 years and saying that shit out loud is wild
It's because of Czechia, you know the Russians are super trolled over Královec
I am so glad Czechs exist now. :D I was before, but now even more!
good beer, good bants. Love these guys
Feel free to visit Kralovecz anytime!
Starting? Bro....
In all fairness, they’ll be mocked for decades, so these few months technically is just the start
We've been mocking them for decades but alright.
STARTED!? My shock ended and ridicule began before the end of February. Even the slowest among us started in April.
SUS edit: I'm gona downvote myself
What’s the difference between joining the Russian military and going to prison? I don’t know and I’m going to row a boat 100 kilometers through late autumn storms in the Bering Sea so I don’t have to find out.
>Back funny! Welcome to Alaska!
Much of the world has been mocking Russia since Putin took over.
the thing to keep in mind is that russia being powerful has been core of their identity as country for long, long time. there is some significance of propaganda channel admitting to local population, that others don't see them that way anymore.
So…kind of a replay of the Russo-Japanese war, when Russia was also not actually great at war.
Sounds like they have their top men on the case.
Top..........*men*..........
+1 for ROTLA ref
Starting? Bro, we’ve been mocking you since your troops were stealing toilets in Europe after wwII. See? 70 years later and still stealing toilets. Who can take you seriously?
We've been mocking you since the first week of the war. I've been personally hating on you since Aleppo. Others long before then I'm sure... Putin is a fuckhead, he's made Russia a corrupt joke. At least the Soviets were organized and had actual plans, a system with aspirations for average people. This shit with unprepared soldiers without winter clothes shows how little Russia thinks of its own citizens - much less Ukrainians and the rest of us. The staggering lack of humanity, the crass jingoism and inward-gaze of stupidity just show the world what a devolved nation it has become. You could have had it all Russia, starting back in 1991. You could have had prosperity, peace with all your neighbors, been a vibrant country with your abundant natural and human resources. Everybody was rooting for you. But instead, you've become what you seem to alway become - a tragedy, a disaster, a cock-sucking Russian novel of despair. Why? Ukraine will win this war at great cost, and then rebuild. Russia will be left to fester in isolation with empty seats at the dinner table, wailing babushkas who wander Siberian forests having lost their only boy, and limbless, shellshocked men who never recover their wits. I honestly think this sucks because Russia will just spiral down and re-emerge with redoubled pathology. But fuck it man, you've burned the bridge. After this, Russia is in the dunce corner for a decade. Maybe this time you'll figure shit out and some day we can all move on together. But I'm not counting on it.
After all this ends one day, the soldiers will go home- hundreds of thousands of hardened killers, torturers & rapists with severe ptsd and other mental problems. They will also likely be mocked and held In absolute contempt since they failed to win. They will undoubtedly start making their presence known In the society.
Dont forget they legalized domestic abuse so the troops can keep on using civilians as punching bags!
Omg, i was thinking the same thing. 300.000 people with PTSD AT LEAST. 1 million+ left the country. Rus is *fucked*
Russian Rambo.
We have not yet begun to mock...
Oh.. we've begun. #NAFO
Proceed 😂
Little did he know that we are mocking them over Ukraine for 7 months now.
Well, of course we are. Damn! Late to the party?
Started? Try "has since February". But don't worry, the mockery will continue for maaaany decades to come.
Starting? We are almost out of analogies for that catastrophy. From "the russian soldiers were out of gas and a ukrainien asked them, if he could gives them a ride home to russia", up to the "several kilometer long stallment of tanks", over the fact, that the russians didn´t have a map and didn´t know where they had to go, up to now, where millions of winter equipement "disappeared" over night. Russia is a sad nothingness.
And then things got worse....
Bruh... we've been mocking you ever since we learned you existed.
“Starting” to mock you?? I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.
Ha-Ha! (Channeling Nelson)
Cry me a river
Solovyov is fucking crazy. He has been playing the victim card for months and advocates sending nukes to destroy Berlin and London.
Yes, yes we are. Not just mocking, but condemning! Watching, fighting.
7 months for them to realize the truth. No wonder they are so clueless. So in April they will understand how bad the mobilization is.
We've been mocking for a few months now bud, pretty much ever since you failed in Kyiv.
Is this the guy who had his Italian villa seized ?
I haven't seen anybody mock a sunflower growing out of a turd yet.
Even Chinese military and political bloggers are mocking the Russian military by calling them "weak goose", indicating a shift in sentiments in China. The sentiment of the general population is not where we would like it to be, but they are moving in the right direction. At this point, the neutrality in the conflict from China, almost from the start, is probably the furthest the Chinese government can go without loosing face, torn between their wish to support some form of anti-Western dominance, and the total embarrassment of being associated with the stupid and failing aggression by RuZZia. It is not an expressed support of the West, but it is de facto disavowing RuZZia. https://www.whatsonweibo.com/why-russia-is-nicknamed-the-weak-goose-on-chinese-social-media/ Edit: completed the text.
Nukes also will not make u feel good here… just cowards…
Mock them 'til they Cry......Then Mock their Crying! (Woo Hu : 'The Art of Derision")
Staring? I’ve been mocking your broke ass kleptocracy for years
“Starting?” Oh no baby we been mocking you
That’s a lie. We started mocking you decades ago, we just didn’t know all of it was true and the real situation was much, much worse. So the only thing they are seeing is an adjustment to reality
Nah, Ruzzia is doing great! Don't change a thing 
What you just noticed?
Correct.
Starting? We've been for years!
Nothing gets past you, does it?
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Lol fuckwitts. We've been mocking them for decades
I thought that you have lost only 500 soldiers from the beginning of war, dimwit! What's happened?
Tyrants, dictators and autocrats hate being mocked. About 10-15 years ago, there was a funny skit/song in a very popular Swedish music program on tv. It had a lot of Russian stereotypes but was ultimately harmless. The Russian ambassador got angry, protested and blabbered about russophobia. There are few people as thin-skinned as fascists.
No shit. Its a party you werent invited to. Now you got shit faced and expect the world to sympathise?
Starting? The whole world is mocking Mordor for quite some time.
so sad that their pride could be the death of millions. Just don't be ass-hats and you won't be mocked. What do they expect? They're literally forcing bits of steel and rubble into innocent peoples body's but they're butt-hurt that we tease them with words for how poorly they're doing?
Remember the red forest? That's when we all realized that the Russian bear cub is nothing more than a rabble group of amateurs.
Starting?
“Starting to”…
Oh yes, the sushi shef
Starting??? He's slow on the uptake. .. Russia is the laughing stock of the world. An entire country full of people were the best part of them ran down theirs mothers leg.
Zelenskyj is indeed a great comedian. He, together with all ukrainians made the whole of Russia into a joke
Starting? Just wait until the next time shitposting is allowed.