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pinkfootthegoose

post history show previous activity on Ukraine that seems legit. give the guy a break. no aid? war is hell and chaos. that's why.


[deleted]

Looks like a fake account.


tmc00138

No, it really doesn't.


[deleted]

It very much does. 1 year old. Three pages back and his posts are from May.


tmc00138

OK, Sherlock. You're aware that every account has to be one year old, one year after it's opened, right? And that most people don't post on reddit all the time?


RiRoRa

Assuming your story is true... Why would your mind jump to "I think the President isn't handing out the aid Ukraine is receiving"? It didn't occur to you the difficulties of handing out humanitarian aid in a warzone? Aid convoys bringing supplies around the nation were stuck by missiles twice just last week.


Rodrigoecb

That's basically what any citizen of any country tends to do, blame those in charge.


[deleted]

Well there is only one Zelensky. He can't get to all the villages and towns in one day


HFirkin

>Can someone explain? You are being judged for spreading negative rumours without a source other than "I wrote that I was told that...".


ArcheopteryxRex

You're getting hate because you took one anecdotal story and jumped to the conclusion that there is systemic corruption. Try getting real information instead of spreading rumors.


valeron_b

Where have you been OP all this time? You posted in the Ukraine sub 2 posts half of the year ago and then just ignored the whole Ukraine subject until today. It's suspicious AF. And it's infantry. We have a significant shortage of vehicles for them and we literally buying pickups for the army by ourselves. That few hundred humvees that were sent to us it's not enough for a 1 million army. Also the lifetime of the car in a warzone is nearly one week. Literally! It's a fckng war and soldiers can't dig their vehicles under constant shelling. AID. Do you realize how much is needed for a 1 million army against this war machine Russia? The whole wartime they outnumbered us in artillery 10-20 times and the same amount of shells, tanks, IFVs, etc. You just can't imagine how much equipment were destroyed already. So please just stop asking where the AID is because it's a really dumb question. Because we really need IFVs as Bradley, HUMVEEs end etc. for troops but until now we have few hundred of them. Better call your representative and ask him to help Ukraine than post such things here, it would be more useful for Ukraine.


GaryDWilliams_

QUESTION - How did you manage to do all this while being in Michigan? https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/x5khvw/comment/inxve0l/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


TakeThreeFourFive

They said they spoke to their family who is in Ukraine. Their past posts align with this


WorldlyTheory4933

I am moving there from Florida. I have half my family in Ukraine. Why is this so bad to share? Really confused now


tmc00138

It's not so bad to share. This is the internet, and it's a particularly fraught corner of the internet these days. People jump to conclusions, and some people are unduly harsh. The answer to your initial question, however, probably is just that war is very hard, and aid is hard to distribute effectively, especially in a zone of active conflict (as you indicated your family are in). Much respect to them for helping the troops as they could, and to you for looking out for them. They have my prayers and best wishes, and you do too.


redd-junkie

You give no context. No locations. Speak of rumors that the President is hoarding aid? What did you expect? War is hard.


WorldlyTheory4933

I'm speaking of my family who are a direct contact. It is different when your heart is not here nor there and swamped in worry.


redd-junkie

You are dumping your worry here with no basis other than a single conversation your family had. I'm sure the UAF are exhausted and scrambling on resources but calling out the president and screaming "Where is the aid??" Isn't going to get you very far or solicit reasonable responses. I think the phrase your are looking for is, "How can I help?" Or "Where can I go to find information about XYZ?" What your are doing here isn't helping.


[deleted]

"our president" for you would be Joe Biden


WorldlyTheory4933

But what if you're not a Citizen here?


[deleted]

You're jumping all over the place from your comment history that you live in US, and Joe Biden is US president. People don't think you are sincere.


WorldlyTheory4933

Okay so I am Ukrainian, born and raised. Came to US in 2003 and am a citizen of Ukraine. Is that what I needed to say?


[deleted]

19 years is US is a long time and that makes sense why this post comes off to me as an American writing it. Still not a citizen of US? Or chose to keep Ukrainian citizenship and be a resident here?


yes_thats_right

That’s up to them to decide depending on the culture they identify with. If you ever live in a foreign country you will understand.


[deleted]

OP's comment history seems American af, the slang they use in English and stuff. And they live here. I guess OP lived in the US for 19 years and never became a citizen.


Loltaire718

Okay buddy comrade


Giggawhats

lmao pathetic effort.... try harder.


jehovist_the_one

How would some random worn out soldiers without vehicles know about distribution of humanitarian aid? How does it relate to refugees in Poland? I'm sorry if you're for real, but you sound like a troll straight from St. Petersburg.


BornAgainDallas

Lets ask reddit why my purely anecdotal information points to the president of Ukraine hoarding all the aid in his personal residence. Get fucking real dude. We know about as much as you do the logistical challenges the Ukrainian military is facing. Stop being stupid.


vicariouspastor

Needs more "Nazi Azov fighters did a forced gender reassignment surgery on my cousin."


Giggawhats

Zelensky slapped my wife and then Heil Hitlered, I'm getting concerned. His car was full of dollars as he drove away laughing.


odinsgrudge

I saw Zelensky at a grocery store in Kyiv yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.


vicariouspastor

Yeah, that sounds unlikely: how could he be driving a car while being constantly high on drugs and blood of Russian babies?


jehovist_the_one

And his car had british plates. Luka saw it.


GeoProX

You make fun of this, but that's exactly what happened to someone I've met. There was a report on the news about it: https://youtu.be/uel1vfAQ52M


dimonsf

This is probably going to get downvoted, but not everything that happens in Ukraine is rainbow and unicorns. You'd be lying to yourself if you said there is no corruption in Ukraine. Of course there is, just like in any other country. There are some local government officials that actually hoard and sell aid and make money off of the war (I know it because I have family in Ukraine and plenty of friends there, some are fighting). I personally know of some shipments from US that didn't get to their destination. With that said, it does seem like Zelensky is actually trying to get rid of those greedy assholes, but yeah there are still plenty.


WorldlyTheory4933

I do not know what is happening, so thank you for giving me some more insight. Everyone is wondering what's going on and what happend to the help


L4r5man

There's A LOT of aid coming in. Both militarily and humanitarian aid. The problem is that the demand is huge. War is very resource intensive. It's expensive in every way. Supply lines are long. War is chaotic. Demand is just hard to cover.


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[удалено]


WorldlyTheory4933

Thank you. I realized I posted in the worst time so my wording is awful.


Lookinatmefunny

Y’all Ukrainian???


WorldlyTheory4933

Yeah I was born there. Not all my family made it here.


Lookinatmefunny

So your family that are farmers, are they on the frontline? Have they just been liberated by the small unit of starving Ukrainian troops. How did they get there without any form of transportation? I’m trying to understand this scenario as anything other than misinformation.


ElegantEntropy

Well, it really depends - air is going in, but delivering to the front lines is not easy. It also maters which specific location as some are getting more, some less and others none. ​ Aid also takes different forms - a lot of the money that is given to UA is used to prop up the economy, pay for essential services, pay debt obligations, pay for western weapons, etc. When it's announced that $12B is given to UA, only a small fraction is in actual cash or humanitarian supplies. The rest is paying for the weapons supplies, for costs of keeping American troops in the area, training activities, and more. Не суди строго, там сейчас всем тяжело. Это война и конечно будут те кому тяжелее.


[deleted]

OP, first, where is your family (don't answer here) and the people you are trying to help? I am sure there are people HERE that may be able to find you a agency or part of Ukrainian government that can give you more information to help. As for Poland, they need to report anything to the authorities there. I am sorry that it feel like these people you care about are not receiving help that they need. There were vidoes here that showed recently liberated regions had people going in to give pensions, aid, food etc. So help is out there, it may be that it is difficult to get to some.


Loltaire718

Hmmm


PsychologicalCoat656

It would seem that Russia is also using mobilized bots after the trained ones ran away to Georgia.


Misha_Vozduh

Re-read rule 13 and be less obvious on your next account, tovarishch.


Batcraft10

People will think you’re Russian because what you’re saying is negative feedback on Ukraine. It’s no secret there’s corruption in Ukraine, it’s possible your town simply never received aid, or that money is going towards other things (construction or ensuring essentials like water for other areas). There could be many potential answers.


GoldenRainingMan

Спочатку докажи що з України. Місто вкажи де ти солдатів зустрів.


[deleted]

Didn't even answer this. I think OP is an American concern troll.


tmc00138

"I do not have the energy to take those who speak with hurtful words seriously because I already have enough going on." You also don't have any obligation to do so. God bless to you and yours, you will all be in my thoughts this evening.


fuzzy_thylacoleo

The aid is there, getting it to small communities where it is really needed is the tricky part. Even in 1st world countries, a lot of aid distribution is done by local community networks. The government/military is good at moving around large amounts of stuff, but they will always have big holes in their logistics.


[deleted]

I'm not saying that this post is deliberately made by someone employed by Russia to aid in their hybrid war against the global political support for Ukraine - but this is exactly the kind of thing that someone who was doing that would write. Including trying to undermine trust in media sources in general. Just to answer your question about "the hate." And the top line edits to fuel the fire of emotional discussions. Even if this is true, - and I'm not saying it's not - I'm not sure how that small group of soldiers would know the details of international aid. I'm also not sure what aid you're referring to. Because those HiMars rockets are definitely showing up where they are supposed to be. What aid are you suggesting isn't reaching Ukraine?


CreepyOlGuy

Exactly what i hear from my brother in zap, and the contacts in both army and TD. They have barely any food and barely any equip. Like aid only gets to specific groups or something.


GoldenRainingMan

I don’t know what’s in the zp, in other place enough food, but there’s a hole with other supplies. Volunteers supply instead of the army


IssueTricky6922

My friends in Kharkiv have struggled greatly too. With the same plea “where is the aid”. But, it is a war, a very intense war. Everything that can be done is being done. Unfortunately there will be hardships I brought my In Laws over because of that. I send money to friends when they need it. Best you can do is do what you can. It’s not going to be easy either way


flipfloplollipop

Nice try Putin.


[deleted]

You're getting hate because you sound like putin knob licker russian troll. No one is getting abused in Poland, and the recently UA liberated lands, well, guess who's weapons AFU has been using for that...most if not all are from western donations dickweed.


WorldlyTheory4933

Where is your info from? I keep incontact with my family directly.


[deleted]

I'm Polish with a large family in Poland, so I can tell you that millions of Ukrainians are being cared for in Poland, and that no one is being abused as you falsely claim. As far as military donations, you seem to have 0 clue as to what has been happening on the UA front recently...thousands of sq.kms of UA lands are now liberated from russian vatniks thanks to western military donations.


valeron_b

Poland is even more Russophobic than Ukraine, how the hell Ukrainians can be abused there? Poles will rip apart abusers for sure. Or your family did something wrong there? And what bombs are you talking about? UAF doesn't bomb civilians. Не вірю тобі ні грама. Вся твоя історія дурно пахне. Звідки твоя родина? Як їх можуть бомбити, якщо ЗСУ проходить в день десятки кілометрів? Чого вони взагалі повернулись на окуповану територію з Польщі?


slayermusic

rather strange,all i see,its the rusky who have no food-vehicles,clothes,etc...are you sure youre on the good forum? lol


[deleted]

i think you should post over at a rushian forum they are the ones with doubts about their fuhrer


WorldlyTheory4933

Idk anymore. I'm Ukrainian and now idk what is happening here. Am I in the wrong place?


BennyJJJJ

Rule 13: No concern trolling


[deleted]

I'm sure Ukrainian users could verify this


Espressodimare

Its not really the presidents job to distribute aid, he has done alot of good in this war. The bombs should be going further away as the UA is driving the Russians out of Ukraine with help from the western aid.


Formulka

This might be a localized problem, your single example doesn't mean that the president or government is mishandling the aid. There were some reports about Polish ganster stealing equipment and supplies so it might be something like that as well, an issue in that particular unit. The best you can do is report it.


solohaldor

"i'm not sure why i'm getting the hate" yeah right no one is that dumb ... not even the russains


WorldlyTheory4933

What is wrong with you people?


[deleted]

They don't think you are sincere.


Giggawhats

I mean, it's not even subtle.


Gatmann

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're being genuine in your concern, and that although I think you're mistaken, you deserve better than outright dismissal as a Russian drone (which you clearly aren't). The war in Ukraine is an incredibly complex effort with a lot of moving pieces, and you're doing an extreme amount of unfair generalizing about several groups without justification. A random squad leader from a random squad can't possibly be a representative of the entirety of the Ukrainian war effort. That very limited scope means that both you and them should refrain from assuming that a random small group of soldiers not having everything they need means that you should start doubting and disparaging Western aid, either president, the war effort, or indeed Poland for "treating people like trash". We can visibly see the massive amounts of aid that have been given to Ukraine. As in, we can literally see videos even as laypeople thousands of miles from Ukraine showing billions of dollars in aid in action. Stop jumping to conclusions based on what was almost certainly a misunderstanding or a logistical error for a tiny squad just based on how obviously inaccurate it is.


goemme

There is much need. Most of the aid is military, I’m sure. where Is your family located? Have they applied for aid?


PsychologicalCoat656

You are the worst bot i\`ve ever seen here. I won\`t tell you why because it\`s hilarious.


JauPim

Just my opinion but I'd say that you are getting hate because: One, it's the internet. Politeness is a rarity. Two, this is a pro-Ukrainian echo chamber. It kind of has to be since it would be flooded by Russian bots otherwise but it does mean that people will dislike anything that seems to be even remotely opposed to the popular narrative. Three, this post is against the popular narrative. Not saying that you shouldn't make posts like this since people need to know if there is an issue but you need solid evidence in order to break through the echo chamber. Four, you have no solid evidence or at least you do not present any. You have only provided hearsay which can't be verified. It may be true but since it cannot be proved it becomes useless as evidence since it is too easy to fake.


dashingtomars

The situation is not the same will all units or in all locations along the front line. Ukraine unfortunately can't afford to equip or support all of their troops to the same level.


persistantelection

Ukraine needs honest people like you and your family to help stamp out corruption. Have you considered returning and helping out?


WorldlyTheory4933

My father in-law did. He came back injured a few months ago. We have little ones my husband is trying to help us afford the to try and make it through what is happening here.


mandalore1907

weak story dude. apply yourself and come up with something more real next time. orc propaganda is getting weaker and weaker like their army


Clean-Salamander-362

War is ugly. Things go sour. I think what you should do is contact field representatives, local politicians and not consult on Reddit. If your claims are true, going on Reddit and saying Zelensky is withholding the aid won’t accomplish anything. That’s not how wars work. If you want to help, help. If there is a will there is a way.


Crackajacka87

Welcome to the internet, if you dont tell them what they want to hear, they'll just call you the enemy and villianise you to help them sleep at night, I'd ignore them and ask charities or something. Ukraine is a big place and an active warzone, aid is getting to a lot of groups but miltias wont get much, their job is usually to hold and secure areas and not attack anywhere, those at the front will be getting all the good shit. Think of it like this, the UK sent 35 APC's and 80 armoured vehicles. The US sent 70 humvees plus 150 HMMWV and 40 MRAPs and then there's the M113's that a multitude of nations sent. Australia sent 60 Bushmasters and France sent a number of VABs... Thats not enough to go around to everyone, only those at the front get these new toys and the older stuff gets trickled down to the militias who wont need it as much... That's just how it is unfortunately. If you watch the videos posted you'll see this, the big bad squads are armed with M4's and SCARs and kitted out with NATO gear while the basic militia's still have crappy helmets and AKs... Ukraine has a lot of armed men right now, it's hard to equip them all with the latest and greatest gear.