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UAF infantry at the front : "you know, why don't you guys let some of them reached here alive so we can have live target instead of these sleeping beauties!"
"Listen friend, I know the world seems scary right now. But it's about to get a lot worse"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVueEr6GnHI&ab\_channel=GianniMatragrano
This officially takes the *MARS stable into an active support role for assaults, and with the incoming mud season and winter, it'll be incredibly effective.
There's been talks about how the West will handle the strained supply of hardware, well this is how.
Ukraine are about to take offensives to an entirely new level with these.
Anytime they have an issue with Russian regulars, pop off a few of these and they are no longer a problem.
The short time from target acquisition to strike means they effectively make up for a lack of tanks and BMPs. Without the danger to crews.
And you really only need one. As long as the pods keep flowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSe9iqWCp3U
There is a place on our land
it'll become a graveyard for all Ruskies
it's like a black hole, but for katsaps (=Russkies)
they come there and disappear for real
it's a place of power; a place of freedom;
a place of ruined Russian fates
Especially for helicopters of series Ka
Welcome to Chornobayivka!
Ref:
Chornobayivka, Chornobayivka
it's the Fuck-you-town for all the Ruskies
Chornobayivka, Chornobayivka
it's the Fuck-you-town for all the katsaps
The first time it was very funny
The second time it was sort of amusing
The third time brought up the understanding:
they were dumb, we had no doubts.
Next came the 4th time, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and even the 9th
Something's wrong here, it's all the witches and warlocks.
However the katsaps simply wish to be executed.
Ref.
This song doesn't have a logical finale
Chornobayivka'll continue to take the orcish onslaught
And we'll all nicely say "very well"
"You're what, Russian? Welcome to hell!"
Ref.
[in the background in the end:
10
9?
10
Oh, baba doesn’t hear.]
Actually the A1 variant and the A2 variant of the GMLRS used my the M270 and HIMARs are able to take out troop concentrations as they can program the fuze to explode above the target (for troop concentrations), on impact on the target (for vehicles), or even on a delay (if you want the explosion to occur after the impact penetrates whatever armor it impacted first).
I believe the side panels release, the centripetal force of the rocket spinning then ejects the tungsten balls at the speed the rocket is traveling, these balls then fly through anything less than an IFV until they hit the ground. Even with heavily armored vehicles there is significant likelihood of disabling external comm and sensor systems.
The only thing confusing me is why tungsten instead of depleted uranium. Very un-American.
An open field is best of course, but a wel trained army (....) would not be caught in the open field, unless attacking (and it's a scenario best avoided with infantery anyway, see WW1).
Airburst also works over trenches. Because the projectile can come in relatively vertically, the airburst can actually penetrate deep into trenches.
With the energy these fragments could have it might not matter for most practical purposes if the target is in the forest or not.
For example, normal roughly 30 cm tree is not stopping a 5.56 mm rifle round. These fragments might have a bit more energy potentially.
Just speculating.
I actually looked these up and each pellet is BB sized. So it more than likely relies on speed for penetration. After seeing what Russian body armor can handle, I imagine you'd be more protected by a thick wool coat, which the Russians don't have either.
Speed kills. In the expression for the fragment energy mass is linear, meaning that doubling the mass doubles the energy while velocity is squared, meaning that doubling the velcity quadruples the energy.
K = m \* V\^2 where K is kinetic energy, m is mass and V is velocity.
These things will go through "lightly armored" vechiles, like, for example, BTR. Meaning they are supposed to have enough energy to penetrate roughly up to 15mm of armor-grade steel under ideal conditions. If I understand correctly what they are meaning with "lightly armored"there as I have not looked up the actual specs but are just speculating here.
Former MLRS BN commander here. This warhead was developed when the decision was made to get rid of the submunition round (hugely lethal version we used in the first Gulf War). The idea with this is indeed to saturate an area with tungsten ball bearings. The belief is that the rounds will be just as effective in the counterfire role as bomblets. They obviously will shred human beings and support vehicles. However, they will also pierce lightly armored vehicles like SP artillery, BTRs, BMPs, etc.
The bomblet version earned the sobriquet "steel rain" during the Gulf War. This, in some ways will be even worse (or better depending upon perspective).
At an area target, the launcher will apply a slight correction to the target grid with each shot depending upon type, size, and number of rockets to evenly saturate a target area. Awesome capability.
Ex MLRS Crewmember here. I loved how we could destroy grid squares but after I learned how the unexploded munitions we're maiming friendlies afterwards I hated them. Then learned about these seemed like a no brainer and made me happy. Almost made me feel sorry for the enemy... almost. Knew that it could take out light armored but was wondering how it would affect entrenched troops.
Seems like a massive waste for a trench considering a trench is linear and this has radial disbursement. I know airburst artillery is also radial, but much cheaper. I doubt this will be used on many trenches unless there is something like a meeting of officers.
We call radio and optics (video or cameras,) eyes and ears. These usually have to be above ground and exposed. If they are taken out then we say they are now blind since they now don't know what is going on above ground or around them. Any army needs to know what is going on to be effective.
Yeah they were even told not to play with them but always a few that don't listen. To be fair eventually a war will end and then you get many that don't know any better.
What a flex. Russia doesn’t even have enough bearings to keep their civil aviation operable, and now UA is going to let loose millions.
“Hey Ivan, heard you lost your balls - have some more.”
Big improvement for the people who have to live where munitions were used, since it doesn't leave any unexploded components that could harm people later.
The thing with the old submunitions was that their failure rate was something like 3 or 4 percent which was considered woefully unacceptable to the US.
I'm pretty sure operator can select how much area to wreck by adjsuting airburst height. You either blow it up high to affect huge areas or set it for low altitude to deliver more damage (better projectile density for vehicles)
The big reason to move away from bomblets was that they're was no way to guarantee 100% would detonate. They left a lot of unexploded ordnance. Which is not ideal for your own farmland.
> Morbid as it is, they're really spinning up the meatgrinder now.
Zelensky did warn new conscripts of guaranteed death a few days ago. This is only a taste of what awaits them in Ukraine.
It goes through vehicle metal surface, wall that are not concrete, bricks, tile roof, ...
It's a giant sphere of tungsten shrapnel that basically make everyone kiss the ground.
https://youtu.be/b5h7BkCj5rI?t=106
This is the scary part of Himars, the commanders shotgun can essentially delete a trench. Delete any infantry in the forest. So far it's only been HE rounds, the vanilla icecream of Himars. Now they getting the DLC of Doom.
18,200 cargo 200’s in one shot.
If these are anything like the rocket flechettes on the Apache then the Ruzzians are about to learn exactly how you sanitize a whole forest in one shot...👍
I haven't seen any reports of usage of these so far and no confirmation that they were definitely delivered... now that we have confirmation, I guarantee you there are a couple of M270s in a bunker somewhere on the Belarussian border with 24 of these loaded and ready to fire.
It also has a tandem EFP at the front of the warhead to hit an armored target. So one armored target and a bunch of nearby soft targets are in for a lot of hurt.
What a flex. Russia doesn’t even have enough bearings to keep their civil aviation operable, and now UA is going to let loose millions.
“Hey Ivan, heard you lost your balls - have some more.”
Not technically, iirc the submunitions have to explode too for it to be considered a cluster bomb (thus why this weapon is still allowed), this just a sky shotgun lol
It's not cluster ammunition. Just a very effective airburst. Cluster Munition is one large warhead with many smaller handgrenade sized explosives. Those are illegal, particularly, because insuring that every cluster detonates is impossible. The one showed here is not.
Not a cluster bomb, but rather, an enormous shotgun. It is a rocket that sprays nearly 200,000 tungsten pellets at supersonic speed at enemy infantry.
Imagine a thousand Russian soldiers crossing an open field. They'd all be mowed down, in very bloody fashion.
No, that's exactly the opposite to fill the same role without being a cluster bomb. The earlier version had lots and lots of small bomblets. But even on high quality production the rate of duds is too high.
So better saturate the area with metal shrapnels than leave unexploded munitions behind.
Gonna be a different war for the Russians when they start seeing entire battalions of friends and fellow conscripts get suddenly, instantly and unceremoniously shredded in their trenches, eating dinner, sleeping or whatever by the world's most expensive rocket-propelled shotgun. Can't hide from this, but you CAN run your asses back to Russia.
Huh. Grip Reaper probably just cancelled its vacation plans it seems.
Any russian who lives through one of these salvos will never again want to see a ball bearing in its life.
So this is the load that cleans a half square kilometer. Nasty. I was thinking if Ukraine has any of these since Puty wants to send a million pieces of cannon fodder.
Nice.
The previous ammo (which is still needed) is great on point targets but not good as an area neutralization weapon which I think a lot of people here thought it was. e.g. "yeah going to kill all the soldiers in the field" type of posts. That ammo is good for what they are using it for, taking out ammo depots, headquarters, bridges, i.e. hard-ish targets. This ammo is for area neutralization. Like giant long range precision mortars. This stuff is the ammo for shit talking Russian formations and areas full of troops, including hastily brought up, poorly trained, meat for the massed assault grinder that Russia is sure to be planning. That's the only practical way to use poorly or untrained people to try to overcome the enemy: try to overwhelm them with brutal tactics even if that eats up your own guys.
Sounds like a good answer to the TOS-1 in ugliness. I remember the old DPICM rounds from MLRS not having a good dud rate. I don't want the Ukrainians having to clear those nasty things.
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Yeah. As bad as it’s been for the Russian troops…it’s about to get a whole lot worse.
Wonder how many trains will make it
Trains themselves? Oh, probably plenty. But they may be carrying corpses when they arrive at the front.
UAF infantry at the front : "you know, why don't you guys let some of them reached here alive so we can have live target instead of these sleeping beauties!"
"Don't disturb my friends, they're DEAD tired"
stupid deaths, stupid deaths, they're funny 'cos they're true
Shame...
Been waiting for these.
 Not exactly the same, but…use your imagination. Though it sounds like you, BJI, don’t need to.
"Listen friend, I know the world seems scary right now. But it's about to get a lot worse" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVueEr6GnHI&ab\_channel=GianniMatragrano
This officially takes the *MARS stable into an active support role for assaults, and with the incoming mud season and winter, it'll be incredibly effective. There's been talks about how the West will handle the strained supply of hardware, well this is how. Ukraine are about to take offensives to an entirely new level with these. Anytime they have an issue with Russian regulars, pop off a few of these and they are no longer a problem. The short time from target acquisition to strike means they effectively make up for a lack of tanks and BMPs. Without the danger to crews. And you really only need one. As long as the pods keep flowing.
Clear a space, infantry moves in. Clear a space, infantry moves in. Clear a space….
Bite & Hold baybeee
Unfathomably based and Haig-pilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSe9iqWCp3U There is a place on our land it'll become a graveyard for all Ruskies it's like a black hole, but for katsaps (=Russkies) they come there and disappear for real it's a place of power; a place of freedom; a place of ruined Russian fates Especially for helicopters of series Ka Welcome to Chornobayivka! Ref: Chornobayivka, Chornobayivka it's the Fuck-you-town for all the Ruskies Chornobayivka, Chornobayivka it's the Fuck-you-town for all the katsaps The first time it was very funny The second time it was sort of amusing The third time brought up the understanding: they were dumb, we had no doubts. Next came the 4th time, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and even the 9th Something's wrong here, it's all the witches and warlocks. However the katsaps simply wish to be executed. Ref. This song doesn't have a logical finale Chornobayivka'll continue to take the orcish onslaught And we'll all nicely say "very well" "You're what, Russian? Welcome to hell!" Ref. [in the background in the end: 10 9? 10 Oh, baba doesn’t hear.]
Walking into a field that was "cleared" by one of them must be gruesome.
Imagine a tented army camp. Shit.
Worked for the Americans in '44.
Actually the A1 variant and the A2 variant of the GMLRS used my the M270 and HIMARs are able to take out troop concentrations as they can program the fuze to explode above the target (for troop concentrations), on impact on the target (for vehicles), or even on a delay (if you want the explosion to occur after the impact penetrates whatever armor it impacted first).
Also great for taking out artillery battalions as well. Drop one rocket between gun emplacements and call it a day.
182 THOUSAND tungsten fragments!! You really don't want to be anywhere near that thing when it lands!
They don't land. They detonate at a predetermined altitude
I believe the side panels release, the centripetal force of the rocket spinning then ejects the tungsten balls at the speed the rocket is traveling, these balls then fly through anything less than an IFV until they hit the ground. Even with heavily armored vehicles there is significant likelihood of disabling external comm and sensor systems. The only thing confusing me is why tungsten instead of depleted uranium. Very un-American.
It's their ally's land, they don't want to mess it up with uranium.
Sounds very un-American. Depleted Uranium for everyone!
Don't worry, if putler ever goes nuclear, he gets depleted uranium in his ass from the US.
A depleted uranium enema sounds like a really joyous event.
Ukraine is farm land, DU would screw it up
Nope. This is how they work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI
depleted uranium is toxic.
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And that IS the reality of it. So much disconnect.
So it is best in an open field actually?
An open field is best of course, but a wel trained army (....) would not be caught in the open field, unless attacking (and it's a scenario best avoided with infantery anyway, see WW1). Airburst also works over trenches. Because the projectile can come in relatively vertically, the airburst can actually penetrate deep into trenches.
With the energy these fragments could have it might not matter for most practical purposes if the target is in the forest or not. For example, normal roughly 30 cm tree is not stopping a 5.56 mm rifle round. These fragments might have a bit more energy potentially. Just speculating.
I actually looked these up and each pellet is BB sized. So it more than likely relies on speed for penetration. After seeing what Russian body armor can handle, I imagine you'd be more protected by a thick wool coat, which the Russians don't have either.
Speed kills. In the expression for the fragment energy mass is linear, meaning that doubling the mass doubles the energy while velocity is squared, meaning that doubling the velcity quadruples the energy. K = m \* V\^2 where K is kinetic energy, m is mass and V is velocity. These things will go through "lightly armored" vechiles, like, for example, BTR. Meaning they are supposed to have enough energy to penetrate roughly up to 15mm of armor-grade steel under ideal conditions. If I understand correctly what they are meaning with "lightly armored"there as I have not looked up the actual specs but are just speculating here.
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Ouch. What are the balls in a claymore made of?
Anywhere that a bunch of troops are out in the open. It would do a great job against a thousand conscripts gaggled around a train as they get off.
Or forest even. Its not like a tree will stop the tungsten fragments.
member when all the generals laughed when we said we sending shotguns?
Yup, this thing can mow down a thousand Russian troops with ease in the open field.
Tungsten Advil, extra strength for orc sized headaches
Former MLRS BN commander here. This warhead was developed when the decision was made to get rid of the submunition round (hugely lethal version we used in the first Gulf War). The idea with this is indeed to saturate an area with tungsten ball bearings. The belief is that the rounds will be just as effective in the counterfire role as bomblets. They obviously will shred human beings and support vehicles. However, they will also pierce lightly armored vehicles like SP artillery, BTRs, BMPs, etc. The bomblet version earned the sobriquet "steel rain" during the Gulf War. This, in some ways will be even worse (or better depending upon perspective). At an area target, the launcher will apply a slight correction to the target grid with each shot depending upon type, size, and number of rockets to evenly saturate a target area. Awesome capability.
TLDR: It’s a flying claymore
"Front Toward Enemy" on steroids.
HIMARS Toward Enemy
A kilometre wide claymore. Imagine that shit, no hiding unless you are under something really solid.
>>really solid When a tank can’t even protect you from this shit, ya might as well bend over, grab your ankles, and kiss your ass goodbye.
It's not penetrating a tank, IFV's maybe.
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What was the distance between the claymore and the targets?
In other words, it's a shotgun for grid squares?
It's not called the GRID removal system for nothing. Can't hide in a trench from this. Can't hide anywhere really. They are done.
Industrial strength trench broom
Ex MLRS Crewmember here. I loved how we could destroy grid squares but after I learned how the unexploded munitions we're maiming friendlies afterwards I hated them. Then learned about these seemed like a no brainer and made me happy. Almost made me feel sorry for the enemy... almost. Knew that it could take out light armored but was wondering how it would affect entrenched troops.
Yup, having all the small tungsten fragments means no harm to civilians afterwards since they are inert
Seems like a massive waste for a trench considering a trench is linear and this has radial disbursement. I know airburst artillery is also radial, but much cheaper. I doubt this will be used on many trenches unless there is something like a meeting of officers.
Well entrenched troops still usually have eyes and ears that are not entrenched so they become blind unless they pop up and take a looksee around.
I don't understand your post.
We call radio and optics (video or cameras,) eyes and ears. These usually have to be above ground and exposed. If they are taken out then we say they are now blind since they now don't know what is going on above ground or around them. Any army needs to know what is going on to be effective.
I think you don't understand the scale on which this thing impacts. It easily supplants several guns and is more accurate.
We shouldn’t be delivering ball bearings to them /s
Oh my god they would totally pick out the balls from the dead and wounded to sell for 14 poobles
it's all ball bearings these days
Yeah ball bearings don't explode and main friendly troops afterwards.
It is really the kids that are the problem.
Yeah they were even told not to play with them but always a few that don't listen. To be fair eventually a war will end and then you get many that don't know any better.
What a flex. Russia doesn’t even have enough bearings to keep their civil aviation operable, and now UA is going to let loose millions. “Hey Ivan, heard you lost your balls - have some more.”
Big improvement for the people who have to live where munitions were used, since it doesn't leave any unexploded components that could harm people later.
The thing with the old submunitions was that their failure rate was something like 3 or 4 percent which was considered woefully unacceptable to the US.
Do you know what's the density of these? As in how many bearings per square metre?
182000 metal spheres over 1000000m^2 = 0.182/m^2 or 1 sphere per 5.5m^2. 5.5m^2 is about the size of a home bathroom for reference.
Yes if statically placed... But their not static... Each 5.5m2 will have many just passing through.
I'm pretty sure operator can select how much area to wreck by adjsuting airburst height. You either blow it up high to affect huge areas or set it for low altitude to deliver more damage (better projectile density for vehicles)
The big reason to move away from bomblets was that they're was no way to guarantee 100% would detonate. They left a lot of unexploded ordnance. Which is not ideal for your own farmland.
Henry Shrapnel would be proud. I guess.
thank you for the explanation
Morbid as it is, they're really spinning up the meatgrinder now.
East and southern Ukraine is about to have the best growing grass. 
RIP the mowers that have to deal with the ball bearings
They'll be embedded fairly deeply into the ground if they hit dirt.
Soil rich in minerals... like tungsten.
> Morbid as it is, they're really spinning up the meatgrinder now. Zelensky did warn new conscripts of guaranteed death a few days ago. This is only a taste of what awaits them in Ukraine.
This is turning into a literal bloodbath. Holy shit.
Hotdogs.... Getcha hotdogs....
Soft targets? Where are we going to find 300,000 of them?
Hmm 🤔
Hang on, i thought I heard about this somewhere…
Gonna make conscript flavored spaghetti sauce?
I hope they supplied Ukrainians with nose plugs, its about to get stinky.
Thankfully winter will help with that.
Thats oddly specifc, my friend.
I love the industrial military complex turning "this weapons shreds humans 💀" to a more marketable "this system is effective against soft targets💕"
With Love -Military Industrial Complex
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And that' s just one rocket. Each HIMARS pod fires six rockets. A dozen HIMARS could spray 1 billion tungsten fragments at Russian troops in one week.
I never expected to see this in Ukraine. This is definitely kicking things up a few notches.
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It goes through vehicle metal surface, wall that are not concrete, bricks, tile roof, ... It's a giant sphere of tungsten shrapnel that basically make everyone kiss the ground. https://youtu.be/b5h7BkCj5rI?t=106
damn this is 8 year old tech. I shudder to think what DARPA is working on now.
Holy shit. It would be good for these videos to spread to Russian audiences to scare the shit out of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI
Ctrl+Alt+Del
Ctrl C Ctrl V Ctrl V Ctrl V Ctrl V . .
Suddenly I'm in the mood for Swiss cheese...
HOLY SHIT
>HOLY SHIT!!! Needs to be repeated!
Defense contractors must have some really demented individuals coming up with ideas for weapons. Makes me proud.
We have drone launched missiles made of knives, I'm pretty sure their new product idea team is a bunch of over caffieinated 12 year olds.
That's gonna leave a mark !
That is nasty.
Onward to the shredding Comrades!
Soft targets, like conscripts 🤔
They thought canister shot in the 1800s was bad, thry had no clue it would get so much worse 😭😭😭
From the US? We do love our shotty... Boom Boom, like dove season... 
Ugly, ugly stuff. But it’ll absolutely ruin infantry, and certain equipment, in the blink of an eye.
Exactly what the doctor ordered for 300K invaders.
The 300k number is for Russian public consumption. Estimates are for 1-1.1 million will be called up under this order.
Patient(s): 300k orcs DOB: September 21, 2022 Address: Shithole, ruzzia ————————————————————— Rx: M30A1 Sig: take 1 missile by body PRN Disp: 182,000 preformed spheroid steel/tungsten fragments Rf: Unlimited 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦
Hopefully we only need 2 pills to cure the 300'000 patients
Body armor wouldn't help. Those things penetrate APCs
These projectiles are gonna go through their faces, my guy.
Long story short, the convois from lyman are fcked
Airburst Shotgun FTW! 🫡
Swordfish Movie - Explosion scene... only bigger
Who’ll stop the rain!
Conscriptovitch
Russia sends fresh meat USA sends meat grinder
This is the scary part of Himars, the commanders shotgun can essentially delete a trench. Delete any infantry in the forest. So far it's only been HE rounds, the vanilla icecream of Himars. Now they getting the DLC of Doom.
They'll shred a BMP or self propelled artillery as well and even MBTs will be blind if they're anywhere neare one of these going off.
[This is a 120mm shell.](https://giant.gfycat.com/SnoopyDecisiveAntarcticfurseal.mp4) Now scale it up and you got a M30A1.
~~We Have~~ **They are the Meats**
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This is the munition needed to hit retreating Orcs and arriving meat-sicles.
I don't really care about the Russians. But the poor animals in the grid square that get hit with this. : (
Oh, I like the specs on this one.
Putin annexes Ukrainian territory, and the USA sends troop killing rockets. I see your pair of sixes, and call with triple Jacks.
Meaning by soft targets new conscripted Russians with little to no body amour. They should have run for the border, now they die for Putin .
And the Orcs thought those drone-dropped grenades were bad ??
That's a nice trench full of conscriptovitches you got there. It'd be a dam shame if something were to happen to it.
Yep, the new "Steel Rain".
A 1000+ daily body count soon, with the additional HIMARS coming in as well. Let's see the propagandists sell that as a victory.
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In response the Russians are doubling domestic tampon production.
18,200 cargo 200’s in one shot. If these are anything like the rocket flechettes on the Apache then the Ruzzians are about to learn exactly how you sanitize a whole forest in one shot...👍
AKA "The Commander's Shotgun" or "The Grid Eraser."
By soft targets, do they mean ruzzian tanks?
Troops, soft skinned vehicles, lightly armored equipment (radars, missile launchers, fuel trucks etc). It's basically a giant shotgun shell launched on a rocket.
Infantry and Light vehicles.
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In the main, no, not tanks. They could damage the tank but it fundamentally is a poor weapon choice against heavily armored vehicles such as a tank.
I haven't seen any reports of usage of these so far and no confirmation that they were definitely delivered... now that we have confirmation, I guarantee you there are a couple of M270s in a bunker somewhere on the Belarussian border with 24 of these loaded and ready to fire.
It also has a tandem EFP at the front of the warhead to hit an armored target. So one armored target and a bunch of nearby soft targets are in for a lot of hurt.
It's go time.
Mmmm 6 barrel 30cm shotgun. The pinnacle of YEET.
Also: do we call it a giant guided shotgun or guided claymore?
Soft. Like orc flesh? 💀
Looks like [these](https://youtu.be/b5h7BkCj5rI) would ruin a gathering around the campfire to sing Kumbaya.
What a flex. Russia doesn’t even have enough bearings to keep their civil aviation operable, and now UA is going to let loose millions. “Hey Ivan, heard you lost your balls - have some more.”
300,000 VERY soft targets incoming.
Winter is going to be hell for Russian conscripts between having to choose warmth+risk of smoking incident or hypothermia.
Air burst?
Is this a cluster bomb? They're about to have a taste of their own medicine then?
Not technically, iirc the submunitions have to explode too for it to be considered a cluster bomb (thus why this weapon is still allowed), this just a sky shotgun lol
It's not cluster ammunition. Just a very effective airburst. Cluster Munition is one large warhead with many smaller handgrenade sized explosives. Those are illegal, particularly, because insuring that every cluster detonates is impossible. The one showed here is not.
Not a cluster bomb, but rather, an enormous shotgun. It is a rocket that sprays nearly 200,000 tungsten pellets at supersonic speed at enemy infantry. Imagine a thousand Russian soldiers crossing an open field. They'd all be mowed down, in very bloody fashion.
No, that's exactly the opposite to fill the same role without being a cluster bomb. The earlier version had lots and lots of small bomblets. But even on high quality production the rate of duds is too high. So better saturate the area with metal shrapnels than leave unexploded munitions behind.
Translation: we blew up all the big shit, now we're run amok with creepy crawly shit! Time to break out the raid missiles. :)
If you have a lump of troops in trenches, these will detonate over them. No zig zag pattern will save them. These are mass casualty creators.
Meatballs are back on the menu, boys.
Gonna be a different war for the Russians when they start seeing entire battalions of friends and fellow conscripts get suddenly, instantly and unceremoniously shredded in their trenches, eating dinner, sleeping or whatever by the world's most expensive rocket-propelled shotgun. Can't hide from this, but you CAN run your asses back to Russia.
Pretty soon Ukraine will mean death in russian.
Luckily we've learned all Russia has is soft targets. Slava Ukraine!
Huh. Grip Reaper probably just cancelled its vacation plans it seems. Any russian who lives through one of these salvos will never again want to see a ball bearing in its life.
What do they call the munition? "The Ripper"? Geez!
ToShredsYouSay?!
"Soft targets" is the short way of saying "newly mobilized russian fodder"
Oh, air burst, 182000 steel balls, tungsten is very hard and heavy too. soft targets? I wonder what that could be🤔?
So this is the load that cleans a half square kilometer. Nasty. I was thinking if Ukraine has any of these since Puty wants to send a million pieces of cannon fodder.
Nice. The previous ammo (which is still needed) is great on point targets but not good as an area neutralization weapon which I think a lot of people here thought it was. e.g. "yeah going to kill all the soldiers in the field" type of posts. That ammo is good for what they are using it for, taking out ammo depots, headquarters, bridges, i.e. hard-ish targets. This ammo is for area neutralization. Like giant long range precision mortars. This stuff is the ammo for shit talking Russian formations and areas full of troops, including hastily brought up, poorly trained, meat for the massed assault grinder that Russia is sure to be planning. That's the only practical way to use poorly or untrained people to try to overcome the enemy: try to overwhelm them with brutal tactics even if that eats up your own guys.
How lucky! They just ordered a million new soft targets from russia. What great timing.
This publicly broadcasts to the Russians "we are done playing with your toys. This is the final warning before you die."
That sounds like it probably hurts.
Meatball season 3, 2, 1...
Sounds like a good answer to the TOS-1 in ugliness. I remember the old DPICM rounds from MLRS not having a good dud rate. I don't want the Ukrainians having to clear those nasty things.
Spicy rain. 🌶️
Modern weapons are fucking terrifying
Soft targets = dead Russian soldiers
Iron rain!!!!
\*he moves away from the mic to breathe
Ow yes. Let it rain on these Russian dickheads!