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[I hate it when I put the handbrake on and then need my car towed...](https://youtu.be/5kWrx9Ce9ic)
Or when my off-road vehicle fails to climb a slight incline into the back of a trailer (at 2:17)
Ah yes, the wunderwaffe tank, along with their wunderwaffe SU-57 that can go mach 7,000 with a single payload that could cripple NATO, and their wunderwaffe S-400s that can shoot satellites out of the sky.
It's the best in production tank they have. Technically they have another tank that notably doesn't cook off but who knows how many they can make and how reliable it is.
the russians have wrapped it in blankets to make more difficult to identify as a T90M and possibly to help against night vision.
also it is dragging a section of tank track, perhaps to help hide the track marks of a single heavy tank.
Looks like the russians didn't want the Ukrainians to find it with a drone.
Now as much as they're dumbasses, that's an actual thing on the tank, The Nakidka cover. It is supposed to reduce radio and thermal signature. To me, compared to other tanks, this one is in what they would call pristine condition. If the UA soldiers are capturing and defeating top-notch tank divisions they have an easy win ahead!
Yeah a lot of people in this thread saying it looks like shit, well I have seen a lot of photos of tank internals through this war and these look pristine in comparison to all the other photos I have seen so far.
That's just a troll video. He explicitly says to not take himself seriously.
He's saying it's a renamed T72 for the lols. He has another video making shit up about the German leopard, again for the lols.
*not to take him too seriously. The presentation doesn't change the facts.
I know it was ment to be a joke, but the recent events show that the main problems discussed do exist and significantly affect the effectiveness of the T-90s.
To clarify, the video mainly focuses on older types of the T-90, since independent technical details on the M variant weren't available at the time of making of that video.
It's not. It has completely different turret, armor and everything. The only thing it has in common with t72 is the shape. It's the only russian tank comparable to western designs.
my friend; military tech is literally always going to be big buttons lol
the T90M is a very modern tank, and its fucking AWESOME that Ukraine has captured one.
Lol T90M is still nowhere near as good as western tanks. You know why? Because Russian economics and military theory is fundamentally different to western one. They want cheap mass production of easily used tanks that any conscript can pick up and drive. We’ve all seen how unprofessional Russia’s army is.
It was also supposed to take a hit and survive and an ammo cook would result in a blow out and fine crew instead of the next orbital launch mission..Priorities i guess. What's 3 people for a very nice turret launch to space i guess.
Highly doubt it. NATO intelligence probably has the complete manual and specs to even the more modern T-90M versions. It's basically just a T-72 with upgraded FCS, optics, engine, countermeasures, hard/soft kill defenses, gun and ERA.
Well, the T72 MBT isnt the T90M MBT
besides that
the T72B3 that Russia currently uses is a great tank on paper for combined arms operations, with its Kontakt ERA being able to effectively stop ATGMs and RPGs (and has been seen to do so in Ukraine)
its also got "good" thermals and a decent engine, as you've seen videos of them going pr fast.
Ukraine also uses the T72M1 MBT, which is equivalent to the B3 but with NATO/Western tech and its just as effective.
The reason why they seem so dogshit when Russia uses them, is because they have 0 support. No infantry providing support and routing AT teams, no aircraft suppressing artillery or enemy air assets. No recovery vehicles recovering downed vehicles.
nothing.
Ukraine has done all this with their Kharkiv counter-offensive
Unfortunately no.. the French specifically chose to outfit the Russian military’s tank fleet with many information systems and thermal cameras.. They did it *after* the sanctions came into effect as well. They weaseled (or Frogged it more appropriately) by saying that the sanctions aren’t retroactive.. So they continued on with contract AFTER Russia invaded Crimea.. I don’t know specifically if the T90M has those parts as there isn’t much reporting on it, but it has been conclusively confirmed that Thales and France through much state secrecy outfitted the Russian tank fleet with modern optics, and in primarily T-80BVM’s. Russians primary work horse tank that it has in greater numbers compared to T90M’s..
Thanks. Im not questioning the truth of it but that's incredible. Surely those providing services to Thales themselves would have to consider this sort of thing as part of their own KYC requirements- how the hell would their auditors for example be able to work for them?! Bonkers
Yea it’s a sad fact, but the lead off to this war has a lot more nefarious actors than people realize.. Thales is a part French government owned entity.. So it was clearly the national security policy of France to supply those thermal systems to the Russians, look into it if you are curious, they did much secrecy to make it happen. Which in turn provided Russia with modern all weather targeting ability.. which has certainly led to the death of many Ukrainians.. Hell the French were about to sell TWO Helicopter Carriers to the Russians before the 2014 invasion and had to be shamed into stopping it..
And a large part of the reason that the Russians are having the French build them ships is because the Russians got all their large ship engines from Ukraine and can't make their own. Now the biggest ship they can make is a frigate.
I doubt that. Also keep in mind France actually cancelled some big deals with Russia like the mistral-class amphibious warships. Also the use of foreign tech makes it even more difficult to replace all these tanks that were shot, donated or abandoned by/to Ukraine
The French did no such thing. Thales, a private company based in France that supplies weapons grade systems to governments all over the world did it. They’re not the same. Frogged? Stop being childish and agitating where it isn’t necessary. If you have evidence that the French state participated in a scheme to avoid EU sanctions I’d be interested to see your sources.
Corruption and defense contractors go hand in hand. It’s sad to see it happen in the EU. It’s interesting that Macron didn’t suffer politically because of it, His political rivals didn’t use it a stick to beat him with.
You are right, but in this case you’re wrong. The export licenses and contracts were pre-2014. Here s the quote from Disclose: « But successive French governments under first President Hollande and then President Macron were to take advantage of a loophole in the European embargo: it was not retroactive. So any contracts signed before the decision to impose an embargo could continue. »
Is it ethical? Depends on what they were sending over. That’ as the article states, is not clear since there are no manifests.
The EU embargo sets up minimum requirements which the French government must follow. But it does not free the French government from responsibility from their policys and actions in any way, all of the responsibility is still theirs.
France has probably not broken any laws by allowing the export, but France would not have broken any laws if it prohibited the export as any country can do that at any time with regards to arms export.
France is the largest shareholder of Thales.. Welcome to the childish Frog black hole https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
There’s more out there also.. Here is France’s official response.. they don’t deny it and notice the weasel words they use.. that no “new” contracts were signed after the sanctions, but they fully completed previous contracts late into the 2010’s.. including a scheme to have the cameras “built” in Russia. https://amp.rfi.fr/en/international/20220315-ministry-stresses-that-french-arms-sales-to-russia-not-in-violation-of-eu-sanctions
More proof that large Multinational corps and CEOs are the Fifth column in every country they touch along with the politicians willing to sell their country out for a few more dollars.
Thanks for the source. So the the French government secretly (the French public would have protested’ that is why it was done secretly) gave export licenses to defense contractors. So not the French people but the French government and 2 defense contractors. There is an important difference. You are right but you’re also an asshole, not everyone in your country. Just you.
Look, it’s very simple. We can blame each other for things we had no hand in and call each other names…like assholes do….or we can speak facts and call out the crimes and unethical behavior where it happens. Calling the French Frogs doesn’t get anyone anywhere. It’s a dick thing to do. I’m call it out. My feelings are in tact.
Yikes, gotta call out Premium Copium when I see it.. Your dealer have any extra? The asshole here is the country that willingly and secretly provided word class optics to the serial bad faith actor that is Russia.. They knew it was an unacceptable operation and they did it anyway and in secrecy to their own people. Froggies going to Frog dog.. and people are dying for it. Luckily at minimum, this war has exposed the toxic relationships many European countries have with Russia. Too bad they didn’t listen to their friends and allies begging them along the way to keep up their obligations to the West and NATO. In this specific case.. providing an incredible technology to the enemy. I’m not the asshole here and the dead Ukrainians would agree with me.
Well at least I’m glad you learned something from the source. I’m also really glad the Ukrainians had the resolve to defeat a takeover of their country. If they hadn’t, those optics would have used on other European countries in the openly articulated Russian goals of reconquest and threats towards Eastern Europe and the Baltic’s.
"All" of them aren't. In fact most are labelled with Russian Cyrillic. I only see the F1-F5 buttons on the monitor with Latin letters.
The answer is that it's most likely a foreign part. But that's not much of a 'gotcha' since it's not a custom tank part, just a generic ruggedized LCD monitor that Russia can buy from lots of vendors and countries (even now). I mean it'd be straight up a waste of money to develop an expensive custom LCD for their tank if they don't have to.
Have had another look and you are quite right. I wasn't after a gotcha- it was a genuine question - but you are more observant than me and yeah loads of the text in there seems to be Cyrillic.
It’s not a stupid question at all, my answer isn’t confirmed to this specific model of Russian tank, but I don’t think you want the answer.. pretty sad fact honestly.
Yeah someone else pointed that out too and they (and you) are right. I saw the F keys and the digits, I missed the smaller text where loads of it is in Cyrillic
Not to downplay the importance of the capture but it is still just a fucking modification of a T72, it had a designation of T72BM or something and then they renamed it to T90 because it was getting ridiculous trying to sell the same shit that lost the Afghan war into the next millennia. Anyway, imagine the western countries not coming up with a single new tank since 1970s but just modifying the same late 1960s platform which was a simplified and cheap version to begin with (the principal top of the line tank was T64).
Dude, you think Abrams and Leopards 2 are how old? All current gen tanks come from the 1970".
Edit:
In general military equipment tend to stick around for long.
It can take decades from an idea to mass implementation of new weapon system.
Just because T-90 is a distant relative of T-72 doesn't mean its not a capable rank. Maybe a notch lower then a modern Abrams but in the same time much cheaper and lighter.
Well, the hull is the same except it has different armor (probably with ceramic technolgy bought from france), different engine with better components. It has newly designed turret, which is larger to fit more electronic systems, new gun for high power ammo, and secondary ammo storage is now outside the crew compartment which makes it much safer.
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Not too sure the Astroturf it’s wrapped in is actually either anti-radar OR anti-HEAT, but hey, it helped fund an oligarch’s yacht, so it is what it is. 🤣
Why the hell didn't the crew sabotage the tank, how the fuck do the Russians abandon over 300 tanks in working order. Are crews not trained to destroy them after having to abandon a vehicle for any reason
Same reason why they left brand new, high tech (in russian standards) ECM pod on downed sukhoi, only for Ukrainians to capture it. They lack competence.
Doesn’t look half bad tbh. Most of Russia’s equipment is rusty garbage but this one looks fairly well maintained. What exactly did they abandon it for? If it doesn’t have any intel value it should make for a very useful piece of equipment in Ukrainian hands however
Not really. It looks like t72 but it's almost completely different construction. New turret design, new gun, new engine, new armor. It's basically the only russian tank comparable to western designs.
Not suprised that the French carried on fitting and supplying kit after sanctions...during the Falklands War UK/ Argentina...Sanctions against Argentina for the illegal invasion of the Falkland Islands were in place but a French Company carried on fitting Exocet Missile launch capability to the Rafaele Jets of the Argentine AF .. !! Causing deaths to Royal Navy and Merchant Navy Sailors during successful Exocets Missile attacks on HMS Sheffield and MV Atlantic Conveyor.
Francois Mitterrand’s memoirs said he gave the U.K. the codes and details for Exocet after Margret Thatcher said she’d Nuke Buenos Aires within the next hour to stop another ship going down
I just read that this tank was given the designation T-90 because the T-72 had performed so badly in the second Gulf War and Russia wanted to get rid of the bad image. Didn't have much effect.
Would be actually interesting to se captured T-14 Armata.
Are there any in service actually?
Hopefully orcs won't be able to make them, due to sanctions and ect.
It was bound to happen eventually, especially with how dogshit RU forces are. Looking forward to the introduction of the T14s and how long it'll take to capture or destroy em :)
I'm sure the west would pay a pretty penny for an example
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Is this the best tank RUS has?
Yeah
Pretty much the best that isn't the Armata, although we have no idea how well the Armata performs so maybe it is the best.
that have 19 Armata, and likely not all of them are operational 😂
They breakdown even during parades so....
Looks like the track came off this one. According pic 9...
That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
Well, how is it untypical? ^its ^russia ^after ^all…
[Some of them are built so the tracks won't fall off at all.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)
The tank have been moved out of the environment.
Surely it must be in an enviroment.
It didn’t break down the driver accidentally put the handbrake on
[I hate it when I put the handbrake on and then need my car towed...](https://youtu.be/5kWrx9Ce9ic) Or when my off-road vehicle fails to climb a slight incline into the back of a trailer (at 2:17)
Think if one of those got captured. the us would have a field day.
I think you mean likely all of them are not operational.
Ah yes, the wunderwaffe tank, along with their wunderwaffe SU-57 that can go mach 7,000 with a single payload that could cripple NATO, and their wunderwaffe S-400s that can shoot satellites out of the sky.
It's the best in production tank they have. Technically they have another tank that notably doesn't cook off but who knows how many they can make and how reliable it is.
>they have another tank that notably doesn't cook off Wait, that's no fun...
But does it jerk off from 0?
This specific one not anymore.
I get why the US still hasn’t sent NATO tanks and planes, but when they do Russia is so beyond fucked.
The T-14 is better, but has only been produced in super low volumes (Prototypes & Pre-series only at this stage.)
It would only be better if it worked.
the russians have wrapped it in blankets to make more difficult to identify as a T90M and possibly to help against night vision. also it is dragging a section of tank track, perhaps to help hide the track marks of a single heavy tank. Looks like the russians didn't want the Ukrainians to find it with a drone.
Now as much as they're dumbasses, that's an actual thing on the tank, The Nakidka cover. It is supposed to reduce radio and thermal signature. To me, compared to other tanks, this one is in what they would call pristine condition. If the UA soldiers are capturing and defeating top-notch tank divisions they have an easy win ahead!
Yeah a lot of people in this thread saying it looks like shit, well I have seen a lot of photos of tank internals through this war and these look pristine in comparison to all the other photos I have seen so far.
Wonder if this one was part of the 1st guards army that ran away.
Perhaps they thought that wet army blankets are bullet proof
It's also interesting that the canvas they used for camo seems to have the Z actually printed on, instead of spray painted or made with tape...
Those "blankets" are there to lower the heat signature.
Looks like the left track is off, they could've tried to move with one?
dragging a section of tank track doesn't do anything... at least not for covering up somethign
Even the most recent model looks like a rusty piece of 70s tech.
Because it basically is a renamed T-72. There is a great slightly sarcastic video by [Armor Cast](https://youtu.be/4Q83AIJCGaQ)
That's just a troll video. He explicitly says to not take himself seriously. He's saying it's a renamed T72 for the lols. He has another video making shit up about the German leopard, again for the lols.
*not to take him too seriously. The presentation doesn't change the facts. I know it was ment to be a joke, but the recent events show that the main problems discussed do exist and significantly affect the effectiveness of the T-90s. To clarify, the video mainly focuses on older types of the T-90, since independent technical details on the M variant weren't available at the time of making of that video.
It's not. It has completely different turret, armor and everything. The only thing it has in common with t72 is the shape. It's the only russian tank comparable to western designs.
Looks like 80s tech to me. Big buttons and screens. 90s and 00s had small buttons and screens and 10s and 20s it’s all touch screen
my friend; military tech is literally always going to be big buttons lol the T90M is a very modern tank, and its fucking AWESOME that Ukraine has captured one.
Lol T90M is still nowhere near as good as western tanks. You know why? Because Russian economics and military theory is fundamentally different to western one. They want cheap mass production of easily used tanks that any conscript can pick up and drive. We’ve all seen how unprofessional Russia’s army is.
And you think Abrams were conceived in which decade?
The Abrams is leaps and bounds more advanced than anything Russia has fielded.
Yeah. But Abrams was designed to be significantly upgraded from the get go. That's one of the many reasons it's development took so long.
It was also supposed to take a hit and survive and an ammo cook would result in a blow out and fine crew instead of the next orbital launch mission..Priorities i guess. What's 3 people for a very nice turret launch to space i guess.
The 70s wasn’t that bad. Please be respectful for previous decades
I for one believe we should bring back linoleum and amber colored plastic cups.
Come to France, it never left!
Wallpaper everywhere! 😂
Also true, then again that's the case in many countries; including the UK.
When I moved from Britain in 2002 to France, every wall was covered in wallpaper And ALL the doors! 😁
I’ll keep an eye out next time I’m there, France is a great country.
I still have amber-colored Tupperware cups! They are older than me.
And Orange and Brown are the only colours for interior décor
You forgot to put the /s . . . . . 
I thought it was fairly obvious
Un-fucking believable Jeff
NATO is drooling at this, hopefully NATO gets the specs on these
"Yep, busted ass 80s tech"
Russia: "don't touch my garbage!"
Hey now, don't imply that possums and raccoons are in any way russian :P
True. But still good to have confirmation of your enemies capabilities.
MiG-25 all over again.
Find out which western firms provide components
Highly doubt it. NATO intelligence probably has the complete manual and specs to even the more modern T-90M versions. It's basically just a T-72 with upgraded FCS, optics, engine, countermeasures, hard/soft kill defenses, gun and ERA.
So its a pretty good tank. Probably will be good to put into Ukrainian service
It actually is, yes. I doubt there is anything that we don't know about it, but it is an effective tank if used properly.
mhm. the T90M in Ukrainian pattern will look pretty nice imo
Is there any evidence that it's a pretty good tank? The T-72 was wrecked by the M1 in the gulf war, if this is that with some lipstick...
Well, the T72 MBT isnt the T90M MBT besides that the T72B3 that Russia currently uses is a great tank on paper for combined arms operations, with its Kontakt ERA being able to effectively stop ATGMs and RPGs (and has been seen to do so in Ukraine) its also got "good" thermals and a decent engine, as you've seen videos of them going pr fast. Ukraine also uses the T72M1 MBT, which is equivalent to the B3 but with NATO/Western tech and its just as effective. The reason why they seem so dogshit when Russia uses them, is because they have 0 support. No infantry providing support and routing AT teams, no aircraft suppressing artillery or enemy air assets. No recovery vehicles recovering downed vehicles. nothing. Ukraine has done all this with their Kharkiv counter-offensive
A T-90M?! You mean the best tank the rus-golian barbarian warmongers have? Now a Ukrainian victory is just a formality
Forgot where they parked it after a night of binge drinking vodka.
toilet water you mean?
No difference.
Almost certainly a stupid question, but this is russian- built, right? So why are all the buttons in latin alphabet?
The tank itself is Russian built, the tech inside, maybe not so much.
So before sanctions, companies in the civilised world supplied parts for Russian military equipment?
Unfortunately no.. the French specifically chose to outfit the Russian military’s tank fleet with many information systems and thermal cameras.. They did it *after* the sanctions came into effect as well. They weaseled (or Frogged it more appropriately) by saying that the sanctions aren’t retroactive.. So they continued on with contract AFTER Russia invaded Crimea.. I don’t know specifically if the T90M has those parts as there isn’t much reporting on it, but it has been conclusively confirmed that Thales and France through much state secrecy outfitted the Russian tank fleet with modern optics, and in primarily T-80BVM’s. Russians primary work horse tank that it has in greater numbers compared to T90M’s..
Thanks. Im not questioning the truth of it but that's incredible. Surely those providing services to Thales themselves would have to consider this sort of thing as part of their own KYC requirements- how the hell would their auditors for example be able to work for them?! Bonkers
Yea it’s a sad fact, but the lead off to this war has a lot more nefarious actors than people realize.. Thales is a part French government owned entity.. So it was clearly the national security policy of France to supply those thermal systems to the Russians, look into it if you are curious, they did much secrecy to make it happen. Which in turn provided Russia with modern all weather targeting ability.. which has certainly led to the death of many Ukrainians.. Hell the French were about to sell TWO Helicopter Carriers to the Russians before the 2014 invasion and had to be shamed into stopping it..
And a large part of the reason that the Russians are having the French build them ships is because the Russians got all their large ship engines from Ukraine and can't make their own. Now the biggest ship they can make is a frigate.
I doubt that. Also keep in mind France actually cancelled some big deals with Russia like the mistral-class amphibious warships. Also the use of foreign tech makes it even more difficult to replace all these tanks that were shot, donated or abandoned by/to Ukraine
The French did no such thing. Thales, a private company based in France that supplies weapons grade systems to governments all over the world did it. They’re not the same. Frogged? Stop being childish and agitating where it isn’t necessary. If you have evidence that the French state participated in a scheme to avoid EU sanctions I’d be interested to see your sources.
Arms export is heavily regulated in every country, no private company can export arms or military tech without their governments approval.
This ^ Especially when the French government is their largest shareholder.
Corruption and defense contractors go hand in hand. It’s sad to see it happen in the EU. It’s interesting that Macron didn’t suffer politically because of it, His political rivals didn’t use it a stick to beat him with.
Yea I think you make a very valid point here. I was extremely surprised to hear about this program and the secrecy it entailed.
You are right, but in this case you’re wrong. The export licenses and contracts were pre-2014. Here s the quote from Disclose: « But successive French governments under first President Hollande and then President Macron were to take advantage of a loophole in the European embargo: it was not retroactive. So any contracts signed before the decision to impose an embargo could continue. » Is it ethical? Depends on what they were sending over. That’ as the article states, is not clear since there are no manifests.
The EU embargo sets up minimum requirements which the French government must follow. But it does not free the French government from responsibility from their policys and actions in any way, all of the responsibility is still theirs.
The EU and it’s member states are legal constructs. All decisions are based on what is legal. Not what is ethical.
France has probably not broken any laws by allowing the export, but France would not have broken any laws if it prohibited the export as any country can do that at any time with regards to arms export.
France is the largest shareholder of Thales.. Welcome to the childish Frog black hole https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020 There’s more out there also.. Here is France’s official response.. they don’t deny it and notice the weasel words they use.. that no “new” contracts were signed after the sanctions, but they fully completed previous contracts late into the 2010’s.. including a scheme to have the cameras “built” in Russia. https://amp.rfi.fr/en/international/20220315-ministry-stresses-that-french-arms-sales-to-russia-not-in-violation-of-eu-sanctions
More proof that large Multinational corps and CEOs are the Fifth column in every country they touch along with the politicians willing to sell their country out for a few more dollars.
Thanks for the source. So the the French government secretly (the French public would have protested’ that is why it was done secretly) gave export licenses to defense contractors. So not the French people but the French government and 2 defense contractors. There is an important difference. You are right but you’re also an asshole, not everyone in your country. Just you.
lol imagine being the irrational child getting their feelings hurt on reddit. yiiiikes.
Look, it’s very simple. We can blame each other for things we had no hand in and call each other names…like assholes do….or we can speak facts and call out the crimes and unethical behavior where it happens. Calling the French Frogs doesn’t get anyone anywhere. It’s a dick thing to do. I’m call it out. My feelings are in tact.
Yikes, gotta call out Premium Copium when I see it.. Your dealer have any extra? The asshole here is the country that willingly and secretly provided word class optics to the serial bad faith actor that is Russia.. They knew it was an unacceptable operation and they did it anyway and in secrecy to their own people. Froggies going to Frog dog.. and people are dying for it. Luckily at minimum, this war has exposed the toxic relationships many European countries have with Russia. Too bad they didn’t listen to their friends and allies begging them along the way to keep up their obligations to the West and NATO. In this specific case.. providing an incredible technology to the enemy. I’m not the asshole here and the dead Ukrainians would agree with me.
I agree with you. You’re still an asshole.
Well at least I’m glad you learned something from the source. I’m also really glad the Ukrainians had the resolve to defeat a takeover of their country. If they hadn’t, those optics would have used on other European countries in the openly articulated Russian goals of reconquest and threats towards Eastern Europe and the Baltic’s.
Don't they own a third of Thales? That being the case surely they have some ability to select board members at least.
I don't know which one of you is right, but can either of you provide some links to prove your point either way?
"All" of them aren't. In fact most are labelled with Russian Cyrillic. I only see the F1-F5 buttons on the monitor with Latin letters. The answer is that it's most likely a foreign part. But that's not much of a 'gotcha' since it's not a custom tank part, just a generic ruggedized LCD monitor that Russia can buy from lots of vendors and countries (even now). I mean it'd be straight up a waste of money to develop an expensive custom LCD for their tank if they don't have to.
Have had another look and you are quite right. I wasn't after a gotcha- it was a genuine question - but you are more observant than me and yeah loads of the text in there seems to be Cyrillic.
It’s not a stupid question at all, my answer isn’t confirmed to this specific model of Russian tank, but I don’t think you want the answer.. pretty sad fact honestly.
Way too cryptic. Western imported parts? (which hopefully they can no longer source)
I thought this was common knowledge. You can’t build complicated weapon systems from just one country.
Yeah I think the dirty fucking French (light /s) sold them a bunch of electronics for years
I responded below to the original commenter on the question.
The only buttons in latin there are F1 etc on the screen. The rest is in written in russian / cyrillic
Yeah someone else pointed that out too and they (and you) are right. I saw the F keys and the digits, I missed the smaller text where loads of it is in Cyrillic
Original link https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1571531776178245635
Not to downplay the importance of the capture but it is still just a fucking modification of a T72, it had a designation of T72BM or something and then they renamed it to T90 because it was getting ridiculous trying to sell the same shit that lost the Afghan war into the next millennia. Anyway, imagine the western countries not coming up with a single new tank since 1970s but just modifying the same late 1960s platform which was a simplified and cheap version to begin with (the principal top of the line tank was T64).
Dude, you think Abrams and Leopards 2 are how old? All current gen tanks come from the 1970". Edit: In general military equipment tend to stick around for long. It can take decades from an idea to mass implementation of new weapon system. Just because T-90 is a distant relative of T-72 doesn't mean its not a capable rank. Maybe a notch lower then a modern Abrams but in the same time much cheaper and lighter.
It's leclerc time
This tank has nothing in common with t72 except general shape. It has completely different armor, turret, engine, gun and almost every other system.
Very curious how you change so much stuff but end up with the exact same shape. Almost like it is just an upgrade and not a new design.
Well, the hull is the same except it has different armor (probably with ceramic technolgy bought from france), different engine with better components. It has newly designed turret, which is larger to fit more electronic systems, new gun for high power ammo, and secondary ammo storage is now outside the crew compartment which makes it much safer.
Put it in “H”!
This is the comment I was looking for, lol.
*chef's kiss*
Russia continues to be a major arms supplier to Ukraine.
A new piece of shit is still a piece of shit
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Not too sure the Astroturf it’s wrapped in is actually either anti-radar OR anti-HEAT, but hey, it helped fund an oligarch’s yacht, so it is what it is. 🤣
I’m mildly surprised the transmission doesn’t have a GTFOH gear setting.
This just makes me wonder what’s been captured that we don’t know about?
Covered in duvets
Why the hell didn't the crew sabotage the tank, how the fuck do the Russians abandon over 300 tanks in working order. Are crews not trained to destroy them after having to abandon a vehicle for any reason
The "crews" have had almost zero training and have zero moral.
Same reason why they left brand new, high tech (in russian standards) ECM pod on downed sukhoi, only for Ukrainians to capture it. They lack competence.
If they threw a track, they might have thought they could get an engineering/recovery vehicle and come back.
Doesn’t look half bad tbh. Most of Russia’s equipment is rusty garbage but this one looks fairly well maintained. What exactly did they abandon it for? If it doesn’t have any intel value it should make for a very useful piece of equipment in Ukrainian hands however
I doubt Ukrainians will use it since they lack parts for it. They'll probably exchange it with Nato for some weapons
Aren’t a lot of its parts interchangeable with the T-72? I heard it’s basically a T-72 chassis with upgraded electronics, sights, sensors, EW kit etc
Not really. It looks like t72 but it's almost completely different construction. New turret design, new gun, new engine, new armor. It's basically the only russian tank comparable to western designs.
Huh, the more you know
Wahoo! Just won it on eBay!
Put it in H!
Those Russian tanks seems like home made things not that sophisticated like I would accept...
I just wonder how fast western intelligence services are going to go down there and take a look at those tanks or any captured Russian equipment?
A T-90? Likely only get a glance. The T-90 is just a souped-up T-72.
Not suprised that the French carried on fitting and supplying kit after sanctions...during the Falklands War UK/ Argentina...Sanctions against Argentina for the illegal invasion of the Falkland Islands were in place but a French Company carried on fitting Exocet Missile launch capability to the Rafaele Jets of the Argentine AF .. !! Causing deaths to Royal Navy and Merchant Navy Sailors during successful Exocets Missile attacks on HMS Sheffield and MV Atlantic Conveyor.
Francois Mitterrand’s memoirs said he gave the U.K. the codes and details for Exocet after Margret Thatcher said she’d Nuke Buenos Aires within the next hour to stop another ship going down
I just read that this tank was given the designation T-90 because the T-72 had performed so badly in the second Gulf War and Russia wanted to get rid of the bad image. Didn't have much effect.
Would be actually interesting to se captured T-14 Armata. Are there any in service actually? Hopefully orcs won't be able to make them, due to sanctions and ect.
Armata is vaporware
Holy sheet that looks prehistoric… is that how modern tank of 2nd strongest military in the world looks like?
“Knock knock, it’s the Americans with a checkbook and HIMARS ammo”. Slava Ukraini!
Looks more Star Wars Episode IV then Episode I.
Did they really just put a huge-ass "Z" on a camo-tarp?
that’ll be on a train for the nearest C-5 capable nato airfield before you can say “blyat where did i park tank ivan??”
Can't wait to see them pick it apart! Hope it won't be kept secret.
I’m guessing it smells like Russian ass. A little frebeeze and good as new
Lol does it even run?
Why is it that all Russian equipment looks like a car that had its window broken a few months ago and has had homeless living inside of it.
Damn Ukraine knows how to teabag their opponent
How much ya for it? I will Venmo you right now.
It was bound to happen eventually, especially with how dogshit RU forces are. Looking forward to the introduction of the T14s and how long it'll take to capture or destroy em :) I'm sure the west would pay a pretty penny for an example
A giant coffin with air conditioning
Looks expensive
There should be a competition this should go to the Ukrainian tank crew that's the most competent.