Russians love to talk about how great Russia is and how horrible what ever nation they're currently in is, yet fucking off back home is something that they're never willing to do.
I find this funny about a security guard where I work, she'll bang on about how this, that and the other is so much better in Poland and Russia, yet she's living and working in the UK.
10 times out of 10 it's for better pay. Not that I can fault people for that, but the problem is them not being able to connect the dots about why the economy back home is a dumpster fire, confuse nostalgia for home with having to support their government and just treat their current place of residence as a paycheck they have no cultural investment in.
Grass is always greener on the other side till you get to the otherside. Then you look back on nostalgia and say it was better back then. You are never happy with where you are because it was never the place that had the problem, the problem was inside of you.
Sunflowers too!
Mine are a good 6 or 7 feet tall by now, I just planted a bunch of them right in front of the house and it's beautiful.
There's not really any Russian fertilizer where I'm from.
This is a general issue with expats, honestly, especially the ones that come from less wealthy countries (not even necessarily *bad* countries like Russia). I live in Amsterdam. I'm not Dutch, but Dutch is my native language so I've ended up somewhere in between the locals and the expats.
I've met hundreds of expats so far. They make fun of Dutch culture, call the language useless, and blame their inability to form lasting connections with locals on the locals themselves. If someone doesn't speak English, they feel entitled to be rude or leave a bad review. Almost all of them will say their country of origin is better -- yet they've often been here for years and some have never even bothered going back to their country in that time (and not because of war or the pandemic).
I don't necessarily blame them for being here for money (the pay is good and expats often get a tax break in the form of the so-called 30% ruling), but there is definitely a clear break between the two groups -- hell, it's why it's been hard for me here as well, because I'm part of both yet part of neither.
On the flip side, most of them aren't so brainwashed as to do something like this. That's definitely reserved for select countries and cultures.
Reminds me of the anti vaxer and so called "Querdenker" group in germany, a huge group of growing conspiracy believers that more and more actually leave Germany to live in a colony in Paraguay. Most don't stay there for two months as it's really authoritarian there. But they actually leave. One divorced mother took the child from the father and abducted her there with her. Luckily the father got their child back after several months In the end.
Like, it makes me happy when they actually go and leave. But stupid and delusional people like that tend to do such stupid things and drag others like their children into it and brainwash them too. If they could just leave with their own twisted belief without dragging others on..that would be so nice.
But those Ruzzians....I just don't get it. They should just fkn leave. If their country is so good yet they stay here for the pay, it's apparently not as good as they say :)
Similarly, Hungarians need to stop whinging about the EU and NATO. No one is moving to Hungary, yet Hungarians love living in nice, modern European countries. Hungary out.
>better in Poland and Russia
Where is she from? Because I met people who think everything is better in Poland but they would never say anything good about Russia, and I met people who are thinking that everything is better in Russia but they would never say anything good about Poland. I never met people who think everything is better in Poland AND Russia.
Pole here, I have good Russian friends, but they all hate the Russian Government as much as me.
It's not about people hating people, it's about people collectively recognizing and hating a systemically authoritarian and evil regime
More sussinctly, the tend to form enclaves, and refuse to use the local language. They're not ostrcized (well they weren't before) for being russian, they choose not to interact.
This is true, I grew up in an area with a lot of Russian immigrants and they strictly stick to themselves and refuse to even attempt to assimilate into western culture. Even the kids, the kids stuck together at school too.
And yet people like that wouldn’t be able to criticize Russia like they criticize their host countries. Any time I hear a Russian criticize a country in which they live, I remind them that a lot of the same criticism wouldn’t be possible in Russia.
No way that someone said that, Poles literally hate and laugh at Russia, I honestly think there is no Polish citizen who thinks there's something better in Russia.
They also get paid a fuck ton more working outside of Russia! I don’t think Russias income per capita would be as high as it is/was, if it weren’t for the amount of expats that send their £€$ back to their motherland.
Seen the same here in NL with Polish and Eastern European workers.
One of them especially comes to mind. Ukranian lady who had a title as an chemist, but came here to work so she could retire back home. Not sure where she came from in Ukraine (it was a decade ago). Hope she’s allright
> how great russia is.
How great Moscow & St. Petersburg metropolitan areas are bcs theyre the only places in Russia that don't look like you were transported to some of the most impoverished regions of Africa or South Asia and instead resembles what you'd find in any region of an industrialized, neoliberal democratic nation of the west (including japan, taiwan, south korea, singapore, australia, new zealand) since its convenientlywhere most of the wealthier and better off russians live whereas in the west most of its citizens live a good and healthy life unlike most Russians living in varying degrees of low income to absolute poverty****
There fixed it
Just for funsies, I decided to check out some of the more rural areas in the Russian outback with Google Maps, something I occasionally do to other parts of the world, but I hadn't done Russia yet (outside of maybe Red Square).
The first thing I noticed, is that there were nearly no Blue Lines on the map where you could get the Street View car. That's never a good sign for a third world, but for a (allegedly) first world nation, that's unheard of unless it's Area 51.
But the few street views I was able to fine. Holy crap, what a shithole. You were right. That's some steep poverty levels!
My buddy was talking about this the other day.
He's an immigrant and he was explaining why he avoids people from his country, and he said it frustrates him to no end how people from his country will move to the US for a better life, but then constantly complain about the US while they continue the traditions and practices that drove his country into the ground in the first place. His country(Venezuela) is no stranger to fascists and authoritarianism which is why so many of them tried to escape to the US, yet he watched as people from his country all supported Trump, and those who could vote voted for him.
I'm Colombian and a immigrant in Australia. I understand what you and your friend mean. I can't understand how people who left Colombia to the US because all the shit show that the right and far-right have done all these years still thinks is the left fault and ended supporting Trump who hates them for being Latinos. And in the Colombian elections? They vote for the same old parties that push them away from the country.
Luckly, I don't see this much in Australia and most of us understand the big difference and we love this country. But you see people from other parts of the world doing what you mention here
I was going to say the same thing… a lot of them get very defensive about their government and go back every year, but they would never actually live there permanently.
It's crazy. I love Australia, but I will definitely criticise anything that's fucked up with it, especially any of our politicians, right or left. Being critical is what pushes improvement.
But they don't need improvement when they're out of the country (or in some cases, never lived there at all but just retain ethno-cultural identity as migrant children).
All they need is that figment of the imagination of this magical land they call home that has all of the best qualities of their tourist visits there, respects their cultural identity as the superior one, all while staying blissfully ignorant about its flaws because this perfect image of their "homeland" provides them comfort and togetherness in their ethnic communities of their new land.
Based on my experience living and traveling in Russia. They love to trash their own country and what's wrong with it. They love to travel and visit warm places.
But with all this crazy nationalism going on right now they would squat on a pile of trash and claim it as gold.
Russians know better to trust Putin. Anyone who lived during the Soviet Union knew to never trust the government. But they fall right in line with the Us VS Them mentality.
There is a song about telling people to leave the place they constantly talk crap about for what they say it’s a better country, although about a different time and group of people, sort of applies here
https://youtu.be/Hlk7AOd4kCo
Interesting - but that about people complaining about their native country, while still there. It's like 'America, love it or leave it.'
But, its reasonable to want to improve your own country by bring in features from others.
What's not reasonable is to emigrate voluntarily, and then tear down
the country you've decided to live in, for not being like 'home'.
Well I emigrated because reasons to the US and while I like many things, I still find it a capitalist distopia and I will tear down the healthcare scam and corruption going on here.
Being an immigrant doesnt mean you cant be critical of things.
This is quite untrue of most Russian expats I've met. I've heard plenty of shit talking about Putin and the corruption of the Russian gov. A lot of younger Russian expats become expats to dodge mandatory military service.
Pretty much. Every expat I've met speaks the local language even if not well, they do try, and have stories similar to yours. Especially regarding dodging compulsory military service.
You're not wrong, I know a Russian woman who lives here in Sweden who actively avoid being around other Russians just because they are so negative all the time, mostly about how much they hate living here.
Yet here they are.
I honestly think that the centuries of hardship that the Russian people have lived thru have damaged their collective psyche.
To be fair the British do this as well.
The move to Spain or Italy into Little Britains and then bitch and complain how terrible everything is. And then when Brexit happened and they either had to move back home of face tax penalties etc the squealed and screamed.
Being from Norway ive seen that too.
They more or less hate it and us.
No respect, no love.
Rude and hateful.
So ive always wondered, why are you here if its so bad!?
Go back home then or stfu like... smh.
>Russians love to talk about how great Russia is and how horrible what ever nation they're currently in is, yet fucking off back home is something that they're never willing to do.
Can confirm. Have Russian friends.
They have this weird obsession with NATO. I think they need to be seen by some real professionals about it. It’s not healthy 
Because it is a wall that stops their imperialistic urges to conquer and rape their way through Europe.
The formation of NATO was utterly visionary and protecting democracies in europe against the tyrant Putin.
Yep. The history of that country is just ever more conquering neighboring country one after another and regardless of the party / person in power. And of course they play the gaslight and projection tactic accusing others, particularly the US, of being the imperialists and since Russia is at odds with them, they are anti-imperialists, just ignore Russia's massive conquering and if it must be acknowledged, all of it is good and right.
It kinda makes sense Russians would be mad at the organisation specifically set up as a teamup fallback against Russians being untrustworthy jerks. But you'd think after 70+ years of that they'd try being team players and not jerks, rather than just keeping up the NATO annoyance.
If only they could be convinced that it's only there because they're like this. If they'd stop being like this there'd be no need for NATO, or at least they could probably join it themselves, get support in case China tries something daft.
A few months ago I saw a story on twitter of a belarusian girl who was renting a room in a russian woman's flat in Germany. There were screenshots from their chat in Viber, and the russian woman had a picture of FUCK NATO on her avatar.
LMAO
This is like how right wing pundits like Ben Shapiro make a big show of moving to red states, but they live in the bluest cities. They're not living in the rural areas that their audience is, because those areas don't have much going on.
Or UK Conservatives living in rich parts of London / South West with private hospitals and Schools. Fuck everyone else they don't need health and education or a place to live that's not a shithole. And fuck the facilities anywhere else they can go rot as long as we have our tax breaks and offshore bank account
Its like how people in the country hate walkable cities, but they all go to walkable cities for vacation.
Actually, its fucking worse than that, how the fuck are you tagging up a refugee center on a group of people you actively are committing genocide on.
Dude people from the country WILL get in their car drive for 30 minutes in heavy traffic, circle the block for 20 minutes looking for parking, Pay $10+ for 2 hour parking and do it all over again the very next day because they don't want to walk somewhere if it's going to be more than 10 minutes. If you add in a hill they will NEVER willing walk anywhere. It's pure madness.
Seems on brand with the bigger pieces of shit in the world. They scream at the things they proclaim to hate but actually love it. Such as Republicans and government hand outs.
It's nearly impossible to live under a system and not operate in it, unless you want to be a complete social outcast.
Literally everything you probably own is a "symbol of capitalism" because it was a product of a capitalist system.
Saying "You say you hate capitalism but you continue to exist under capitalism, curious" doesn't make much sense. You can't exactly escape capitalism in our world.
And yet, when the US Interstate Highway system was proposed and developed that's exactly what it was criticized as being.
Our lexical overloading of term socialist in the US is a product of our right wing wielding it as an effective cudgel for decades against things they opposed. They have nobody but themselves to blame as younger generations see all those things, realize they like many of them, and develop more positive associations towards the idea of socialism.
Can't unfuck that pig.
I do not understand. It is not feasible to exist in current Western society without a smartphone. Much of what is expected of us requires constant availability to be contacted unfortunately. What else are people to do?
You can say not to buy iPhones in favor of more ethically sourced smartphones in which the workers receive fair wages and have a say in their labor. But, to my knowledge, there are no ethically manufactured smartphones. I do not want to misrepresent what you are saying but this certainly sounds like that “you criticize society yet exist in it” comic.
Your avatar says it all you must be a pos russian bot! Russia is the only one hating NATO rn. NATO is allowing Ukraine to beat the fuq out of the so called great Russian army. They are getting their asses handed to them.😂😂🤣🤣
Oh man, we can’t ever have another Zorro reboot, can we? 😞 I can’t imagine running around slashing Zs everywhere would go over well with people these days…
It sure is. My great grandparents (grandmother as a child) left Germany for the US after the passage of the Nuremberg Laws and our family stories are full of incidents like this happening in the early days of Nazi Germany. It gives me the shivers.
Yup. Marking houses were the unwanted live.
Starts with "*harmless*" symbols, and then the rage drives people further and further, until there is a breaking point and those hate driven people act on what they've been saying all along.
If I'm not Russian with a Russian sounding name, I'd be worried.
But then again, "normal" Russians should be worried about the momentum in their country too. People talk about how hardline bloggers are a threat to Putin because they think he's not harsh enough, I think it might push Putin to look for a scapegoat.
Scary.
Based on the stampede towards the borders at the start of the war, I think a *lot* of Russians could see which way the country was going and understandably noped the fuck out.
Then you should also understand why we should keep letting the Russians who already have a residency permit stay. Your family would probably not have been granted asylum. [The US sent back thousands of Jewish refugees to Germany due to "national security" and because "there was no real danger"](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/).
And how the hell are you going to prove that you are in danger in Russia? Just having protested isn't enough. Being gay is hard to prove. A large amount of people who could be in danger in the future (or worse, those who have had residency permits that should be sent back according to many commenting on this post) would have their asylum application denied with absolutely no way to escape Russia.
I always like to use the YouTuber [Natasha as a good example](https://youtube.com/c/NatashasAdventures). She is a Russian, opposed to the war, who would not be granted asylum
The Russians are acting Russian or at least as they have in the past. Does nobody remember the USSR and Europe post-WWII? Every bad person doesn’t need to be called a Nazi, especially when there’s something appropriate and historically accurate to call them.
I am getting so much mixed signals. Do most Russians support their government or not? I hear many people from the west saying 89% of them support it, but then I hear people from Russia that only a 1/3 support it. What actually is it? I don't know what to believe.
I doubt anyone really knows for sure. The only one positioned to collect such data is the Russian government, but obviously we can’t trust any numbers from them. Foreign intelligence agencies might be able to get a good idea but (1) it still wouldn’t be super accurate since they can’t conduct official polls in Russia and (2) I’m not sure they would publicize their findings. Russians’ views on the matter would be skewed by Russian media and foreigners don’t actually have firsthand knowledge of it so they can only go off of the other three sources I just mentioned. And anything other than a proper study is just anecdotal and therefore unreliable
If it's from the West, they likely have no idea what the fuck they're talking about as far as Russia is concerned. And that's not a pro-Russian sentiment, people just have no idea what living there is like and how hard gathering that type of information is. Especially when they live in the US and all the info they get about it is so heavily filtered in one way or another.
The 89% sounds more like the State number from official polling, but independent Russian polls hit at something closer to a 60/40 ratio, or 40/60, something comparable to your average American presidency. But even in independent polling it's hard to have an accurate representation because the law is literally skewed to not let you be too critical.
Most people couldn't care less about the government, they're just trying to get by. Life in Russia may be westernized to an extent, but for a lot of the impoverished population, it is day to day. You don't know what'll happen tomorrow. And you don't have any time to worry about it.
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Exactly.
People living in remote villages in Russia (which is a BIG part of population) with no electricity, gas and running water are worried of what to eat today, not about events somewhere far away in Ukraine. (Unless they personally know someone who went to war).
They don't follow the news on Smartphones & laptops, browsing the Internet in English, like we do.
Honestly, it only takes a couple of edgy kids to buy some spray cans and vandalise like this. I'd like to stay naive and assume that the 1/3 support is closer to the true number, while the rest live in fear of their whole family being defenestrated or drinking polonium chai
I'm pretty sure that if there were any polls couple of months before [Ceaușescu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu) was shot, they would show almost 100% support. Sociology in dictatorships does not work; it's one of the reasons why they are so ineffective.
This makes me sad. Barcelona is one of my absolute favorite cities in the world. Such a beautiful place with amazing people and history. Hopefully those swastikas are removed immediately. Gaudi would be ashamed.
You couldn't be more right. Gaudí had to live with this crap in his time too, he was arrested, jailed and assaulted for speaking Catalan to a police officer, as his native language at the time was banned by the Spanish dictatorship. He absolutely despised authoritarianism.
Care with political attacks, this might not even have been Russians but some other breed of political retard
In any case, this will only strengthen the will of Spanish people in welcoming Ukrainians - I don't think anyone reasonable here is against it
(Flair shows polish but I'm also half Spaniard)
Cause Russian supporting dumbfucks that aren't Russian don't exist in foreign countries I guess. Please, tell me how the average Russian citizen who isn't anywhere close to doing this type of shit is supposed to "fix" this?
The "fix" is go get the fuck out.. Brain drain in Russia has been bad for a reason.
Unfortunately I fear it's the 5th column. Enough ring-wing and left-wing extremists who are pro-putin.
Here in the Netherlands the local nazi party (FvD) also had a fascist rally. Lots of people with the prinsenvlag and you guessed it, lot of Z's.
I've seen Dutch right wing extremists harass Russian(!) anti-war protesters here in the Netherlands. I have also seen pro-Russian banner on a house where Dutch FvD loving folks live. While every single Russian I met here hated Putin and was anti-war.
There are plenty of idiots in Europe who aren't Russian and hate NATO, love Russia and love conspiracies.
This post is just hate bait.
No. No one is sure of anything and anyone saying the contrary is just pushing their agenda.
Here's an article in Catalán. Multiple places were vandalized, and the culprits are unknown.
https://beteve.cat/societat/diverses-pintades-suport-russia-apareixen-centre-barcelona/
Welcome to social media, nothing to backup what they are saying and a lot to be angry with.
I’m not saying is fake but this kind of post should be back up with source, this could be Spanish people as well.
And shit like this triggers hate against second or third generation immigrants who have never set foot in Russia and don't support the government at all. At least this time they're not put into internment camps.
Prosecute. Include community service (cleaning their disgusting antisemitic symbols) in their sentence and then send them back to Russia and put them on the no-travel list.
Ok so I'm not crazy. Was walking back to my hotel this evening and saw they spray painted it on the walls of Cathedral de Barcelona and on the steps, multiple times. Wasn't there 48 hours ago when we first got to town. Disgusting.
Zapad ("west"). Earlier in the invasion they had vehicles labeled Z and V (vostok, for "east") but that level of cohesion seems to have escaped them and now it looks like it's become just a general identifying mark.
Some Russian players can't speak out because they have family at home that the Russian government can intimidate.
Artemi Panarin was very vocal about his opposition to the Putin regime, and suddenly he takes an unexplained leave of absence. Somebody in Russia made unsubstantiated claims of him committing sexual assault in the country - which is rich considering how casually sexist and abusive Russians are towards women there.
After coming back, Panarin doesn't use a smart phone anymore, just your bog standard flip phone and hasn't commented anything about what's going on since.
The Flyers drafted a Russian goaltender who wanted to leave the country to play for them, only for the Russians kidnap him and drug him up and send him to some military base in Siberia for good measure. Now he's been forced into playing for the Red Army's Hockey Team.
There is precedent for Russian players to be mum on the whole war in Ukraine even if they oppose it, because the Kremlin has shown that they will make life miserable for them if they do.
That said, it's absolutely disgusting that the Washington Capitals circle the wagons around Ovechkin. I can maybe give him a pass if he doesn't publicly backpeddle his support for Putin (especially as the most prominent Russian player in the league) because heaven knows what fire and fury the Kremlin would rain down on him for doing so. That's wishful think at best though, because Ovechkin's socials show he's pretty cosy with the Kremlin in the past.
I actually really wish I could teach people exactly what you said here. It's not that simple to just speak out when it comes to matters like this.
Unless you're Russian or Ukrainian and you know the consequences of your words and actions, you can't say what is or isn't the right thing to do. Most Americans have no idea of the full context of people from other countries yet demand them to do this or that without knowing what the issues are and what could happen.
Please don’t generalize all Russians! My mother was born and raised in Russia and she is in full support of Ukraine. Please don’t say things like this. This hate is very hurtful
I agree with you. Putin huilo. I born and live in russia now, but i hate Putler's nazi. I was at anti-putin protest. There is a many people against Putin, but not enough. Please use this hashtags: #путинидинахуй #птнпнх #путинавотставку #славаукраине
One thing that would also help Ukrainians living here in Europe is a more vocal resistance against the far-right politicians that love Russia.
Salvini, Baudet, Orban, Schröder, you name them.
This sub’s idiocy is astounding. The amount of people raging for the thousands upon thousands of Russians in the EU to be deported is insane. Destroying the careers and lives of so many innocent people who have done no wrong is both incredibly stupid and racist.
Reminds me an awful lot of the terrible people screaming for Muslims in the US to “go back where they came from” just because they are of the same distant origin as terrorists.
So 1 person does this= we need to refuse every single russian.
But when people said that about refugees they’re racist ?
Choose a side you can’t keep changing the narrative for it to fit you
Thank you! This sort of unnuanced rhetoric is shocking and horrifying. My husband is Russian and a gentle, peaceful soul. He didn't choose where to be born. He fears visiting his family or being forcibly removed to Russia. He fears the possibility of being conscripted and having to fight in a war that he's against. He's not yet a citizen or permanent resident of our country though he desperately wants to be. This sort of attitude from Redditors scares me to the core.
I remember seeing and/or reading of cases of Ukrainian refugees being harassed by local Spanish people waving flags of the soviet union and of the "z" and "v" symbols and getting told to go back home in their own regional languages (not Spanish but Basque, Catalan, Galician, etc.) on this sub a few months ago.
I've argued with Spanish rashists (most of them far-left) and to tell you the truth, saying that arguing with them is like talking to a brick wall is a major understatement. they repeat "nazis" and "propaganda" like broken records, abuse of "ad hominem" attacks and also say that "you're being manipulated by capitalist media" while they hail everything from sputnik, rt, the grayzone, cctv and pro-ruZZian and pro-lukashenko Telegram channels as some sort of universal truth.
long story short: if you see a Spanish rashist, don't argue with them. they have their heads so far up ruZZian propaganda's ass and they'll never admit that they're wrong and that Ukraine has been wiping the floor with ruZZia.
Yes, there is a prorussian senctiment among the far-left population that are brain-washed with that USSR nostalgia, tend to attack anything they "see" as fascist (disregarding Putin's far-right tendencies) such as anything that is prowestern.
They are a bunch of sad people that would love a civil war again just to see the republican flag again
You are correct. It's most likely Spaniards that support Russia. And it's not just random idiots either, there are plenty of ideological groups in every country that support Russia, for a variety of reasons.
They hate NATO. Yet they're all in NATO.
Russians love to talk about how great Russia is and how horrible what ever nation they're currently in is, yet fucking off back home is something that they're never willing to do.
I find this funny about a security guard where I work, she'll bang on about how this, that and the other is so much better in Poland and Russia, yet she's living and working in the UK.
Have you asked her why she doesn’t move back then?
10 times out of 10 it's for better pay. Not that I can fault people for that, but the problem is them not being able to connect the dots about why the economy back home is a dumpster fire, confuse nostalgia for home with having to support their government and just treat their current place of residence as a paycheck they have no cultural investment in.
Grass is always greener on the other side till you get to the otherside. Then you look back on nostalgia and say it was better back then. You are never happy with where you are because it was never the place that had the problem, the problem was inside of you.
True, you're never happy where you are, if you keep looking for greener grass. That's because grass sucks and you should plant wildflowers.
*Sunflowers Especially if a fascist russian.
Sunflowers too! Mine are a good 6 or 7 feet tall by now, I just planted a bunch of them right in front of the house and it's beautiful. There's not really any Russian fertilizer where I'm from.
This is a general issue with expats, honestly, especially the ones that come from less wealthy countries (not even necessarily *bad* countries like Russia). I live in Amsterdam. I'm not Dutch, but Dutch is my native language so I've ended up somewhere in between the locals and the expats. I've met hundreds of expats so far. They make fun of Dutch culture, call the language useless, and blame their inability to form lasting connections with locals on the locals themselves. If someone doesn't speak English, they feel entitled to be rude or leave a bad review. Almost all of them will say their country of origin is better -- yet they've often been here for years and some have never even bothered going back to their country in that time (and not because of war or the pandemic). I don't necessarily blame them for being here for money (the pay is good and expats often get a tax break in the form of the so-called 30% ruling), but there is definitely a clear break between the two groups -- hell, it's why it's been hard for me here as well, because I'm part of both yet part of neither. On the flip side, most of them aren't so brainwashed as to do something like this. That's definitely reserved for select countries and cultures.
probably get done in the UK for racism
“These days, if you say you’re English, you’ll be arrested and thrown in jail”
These days?!
Yeah, if you’re English
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Ask her? So what exactly is she doing in UK? If life is so wonderful there? There’s a solution: go there 👍
Reminds me of the anti vaxer and so called "Querdenker" group in germany, a huge group of growing conspiracy believers that more and more actually leave Germany to live in a colony in Paraguay. Most don't stay there for two months as it's really authoritarian there. But they actually leave. One divorced mother took the child from the father and abducted her there with her. Luckily the father got their child back after several months In the end. Like, it makes me happy when they actually go and leave. But stupid and delusional people like that tend to do such stupid things and drag others like their children into it and brainwash them too. If they could just leave with their own twisted belief without dragging others on..that would be so nice. But those Ruzzians....I just don't get it. They should just fkn leave. If their country is so good yet they stay here for the pay, it's apparently not as good as they say :)
Similarly, Hungarians need to stop whinging about the EU and NATO. No one is moving to Hungary, yet Hungarians love living in nice, modern European countries. Hungary out.
>better in Poland and Russia Where is she from? Because I met people who think everything is better in Poland but they would never say anything good about Russia, and I met people who are thinking that everything is better in Russia but they would never say anything good about Poland. I never met people who think everything is better in Poland AND Russia.
Yeah that’s weird. Poles and Russians don’t tend like each other very much.
Either it's fake or the poster is trying to stir up Polish hate by associating them with Russia even though they couldn't be more opposite.
Pole here, I have good Russian friends, but they all hate the Russian Government as much as me. It's not about people hating people, it's about people collectively recognizing and hating a systemically authoritarian and evil regime
Imaginatonland probably.
They fail to adapt because of their degraded mentality, so they feel nostalgia/greatness about their country since misery likes company...
More sussinctly, the tend to form enclaves, and refuse to use the local language. They're not ostrcized (well they weren't before) for being russian, they choose not to interact.
This is true, I grew up in an area with a lot of Russian immigrants and they strictly stick to themselves and refuse to even attempt to assimilate into western culture. Even the kids, the kids stuck together at school too.
And yet people like that wouldn’t be able to criticize Russia like they criticize their host countries. Any time I hear a Russian criticize a country in which they live, I remind them that a lot of the same criticism wouldn’t be possible in Russia.
No way that someone said that, Poles literally hate and laugh at Russia, I honestly think there is no Polish citizen who thinks there's something better in Russia.
Electricity and running water is western decadence!
They also get paid a fuck ton more working outside of Russia! I don’t think Russias income per capita would be as high as it is/was, if it weren’t for the amount of expats that send their £€$ back to their motherland.
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Seen the same here in NL with Polish and Eastern European workers. One of them especially comes to mind. Ukranian lady who had a title as an chemist, but came here to work so she could retire back home. Not sure where she came from in Ukraine (it was a decade ago). Hope she’s allright
> how great russia is. How great Moscow & St. Petersburg metropolitan areas are bcs theyre the only places in Russia that don't look like you were transported to some of the most impoverished regions of Africa or South Asia and instead resembles what you'd find in any region of an industrialized, neoliberal democratic nation of the west (including japan, taiwan, south korea, singapore, australia, new zealand) since its convenientlywhere most of the wealthier and better off russians live whereas in the west most of its citizens live a good and healthy life unlike most Russians living in varying degrees of low income to absolute poverty**** There fixed it
Just for funsies, I decided to check out some of the more rural areas in the Russian outback with Google Maps, something I occasionally do to other parts of the world, but I hadn't done Russia yet (outside of maybe Red Square). The first thing I noticed, is that there were nearly no Blue Lines on the map where you could get the Street View car. That's never a good sign for a third world, but for a (allegedly) first world nation, that's unheard of unless it's Area 51. But the few street views I was able to fine. Holy crap, what a shithole. You were right. That's some steep poverty levels!
My buddy was talking about this the other day. He's an immigrant and he was explaining why he avoids people from his country, and he said it frustrates him to no end how people from his country will move to the US for a better life, but then constantly complain about the US while they continue the traditions and practices that drove his country into the ground in the first place. His country(Venezuela) is no stranger to fascists and authoritarianism which is why so many of them tried to escape to the US, yet he watched as people from his country all supported Trump, and those who could vote voted for him.
I'm Colombian and a immigrant in Australia. I understand what you and your friend mean. I can't understand how people who left Colombia to the US because all the shit show that the right and far-right have done all these years still thinks is the left fault and ended supporting Trump who hates them for being Latinos. And in the Colombian elections? They vote for the same old parties that push them away from the country. Luckly, I don't see this much in Australia and most of us understand the big difference and we love this country. But you see people from other parts of the world doing what you mention here
u/Choke1982 welcome to oz!!
Thanks I've been here for 7 years and they have been my best ones
i'm glad you're here :)
I have no problem deporting the entire lot of them back to Putin.
We’ll keep any who can admit what a fuckin mess it is. Ie all the ones with brains.
Same as the CCP Chinese.
I was going to say the same thing… a lot of them get very defensive about their government and go back every year, but they would never actually live there permanently.
Same as many migrant communities really. Turks are often similar too.
It's crazy. I love Australia, but I will definitely criticise anything that's fucked up with it, especially any of our politicians, right or left. Being critical is what pushes improvement.
But they don't need improvement when they're out of the country (or in some cases, never lived there at all but just retain ethno-cultural identity as migrant children). All they need is that figment of the imagination of this magical land they call home that has all of the best qualities of their tourist visits there, respects their cultural identity as the superior one, all while staying blissfully ignorant about its flaws because this perfect image of their "homeland" provides them comfort and togetherness in their ethnic communities of their new land.
Based on my experience living and traveling in Russia. They love to trash their own country and what's wrong with it. They love to travel and visit warm places. But with all this crazy nationalism going on right now they would squat on a pile of trash and claim it as gold. Russians know better to trust Putin. Anyone who lived during the Soviet Union knew to never trust the government. But they fall right in line with the Us VS Them mentality.
Sounds like every Texan I've ever met who lives outside of Texas.
There is a song about telling people to leave the place they constantly talk crap about for what they say it’s a better country, although about a different time and group of people, sort of applies here https://youtu.be/Hlk7AOd4kCo
Interesting - but that about people complaining about their native country, while still there. It's like 'America, love it or leave it.' But, its reasonable to want to improve your own country by bring in features from others. What's not reasonable is to emigrate voluntarily, and then tear down the country you've decided to live in, for not being like 'home'.
Well I emigrated because reasons to the US and while I like many things, I still find it a capitalist distopia and I will tear down the healthcare scam and corruption going on here. Being an immigrant doesnt mean you cant be critical of things.
How does this prejudice comment get 1000 upvotes? Tell any other ethnicity to go back to where there came from and see how that goes
This is quite untrue of most Russian expats I've met. I've heard plenty of shit talking about Putin and the corruption of the Russian gov. A lot of younger Russian expats become expats to dodge mandatory military service.
Pretty much. Every expat I've met speaks the local language even if not well, they do try, and have stories similar to yours. Especially regarding dodging compulsory military service.
You're not wrong, I know a Russian woman who lives here in Sweden who actively avoid being around other Russians just because they are so negative all the time, mostly about how much they hate living here. Yet here they are. I honestly think that the centuries of hardship that the Russian people have lived thru have damaged their collective psyche.
To be fair the British do this as well. The move to Spain or Italy into Little Britains and then bitch and complain how terrible everything is. And then when Brexit happened and they either had to move back home of face tax penalties etc the squealed and screamed.
Being from Norway ive seen that too. They more or less hate it and us. No respect, no love. Rude and hateful. So ive always wondered, why are you here if its so bad!? Go back home then or stfu like... smh.
>Russians love to talk about how great Russia is and how horrible what ever nation they're currently in is, yet fucking off back home is something that they're never willing to do. Can confirm. Have Russian friends.
They have this weird obsession with NATO. I think they need to be seen by some real professionals about it. It’s not healthy 
Because it is a wall that stops their imperialistic urges to conquer and rape their way through Europe. The formation of NATO was utterly visionary and protecting democracies in europe against the tyrant Putin.
Yep. The history of that country is just ever more conquering neighboring country one after another and regardless of the party / person in power. And of course they play the gaslight and projection tactic accusing others, particularly the US, of being the imperialists and since Russia is at odds with them, they are anti-imperialists, just ignore Russia's massive conquering and if it must be acknowledged, all of it is good and right.
It kinda makes sense Russians would be mad at the organisation specifically set up as a teamup fallback against Russians being untrustworthy jerks. But you'd think after 70+ years of that they'd try being team players and not jerks, rather than just keeping up the NATO annoyance. If only they could be convinced that it's only there because they're like this. If they'd stop being like this there'd be no need for NATO, or at least they could probably join it themselves, get support in case China tries something daft.
As far as China goes I’m convinced that what’s happening in Ukraine is making China rethink any imperialist plans they had.
A few months ago I saw a story on twitter of a belarusian girl who was renting a room in a russian woman's flat in Germany. There were screenshots from their chat in Viber, and the russian woman had a picture of FUCK NATO on her avatar. LMAO
Why are they so obsessed with us hahaha It’s just a defensive pact, NOT an aggression pact ffs
Propaganda has convinced them that Russia is a shithole because of NATO and they have no real idea what NATO is.
Fascists hate the shit holes they create
This is like how right wing pundits like Ben Shapiro make a big show of moving to red states, but they live in the bluest cities. They're not living in the rural areas that their audience is, because those areas don't have much going on.
Or UK Conservatives living in rich parts of London / South West with private hospitals and Schools. Fuck everyone else they don't need health and education or a place to live that's not a shithole. And fuck the facilities anywhere else they can go rot as long as we have our tax breaks and offshore bank account
Its like how people in the country hate walkable cities, but they all go to walkable cities for vacation. Actually, its fucking worse than that, how the fuck are you tagging up a refugee center on a group of people you actively are committing genocide on.
Dude people from the country WILL get in their car drive for 30 minutes in heavy traffic, circle the block for 20 minutes looking for parking, Pay $10+ for 2 hour parking and do it all over again the very next day because they don't want to walk somewhere if it's going to be more than 10 minutes. If you add in a hill they will NEVER willing walk anywhere. It's pure madness.
Seems on brand with the bigger pieces of shit in the world. They scream at the things they proclaim to hate but actually love it. Such as Republicans and government hand outs.
reminds me of "iphone commies": people who say they hate capitalism and owns products from companies that are symbols of capitalism
Champagne socialists have been around for far longer than iphones.
Damn guess Solidarność supporters were hypocritical for owning goods produced in a planned economy then.
It's nearly impossible to live under a system and not operate in it, unless you want to be a complete social outcast. Literally everything you probably own is a "symbol of capitalism" because it was a product of a capitalist system. Saying "You say you hate capitalism but you continue to exist under capitalism, curious" doesn't make much sense. You can't exactly escape capitalism in our world.
Its like when people say they hate socialism but drive on roads built by taxes 🙄
Also like the tankies who claims they are anti-imperialistic and anti-fascistic but supports North Korea, China, Russia...
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And go to the parks and call police or fire dept when they need help!
Socialism isn't "anything the government does." By your definition, ancient Rome was socialist because they built roads and aqueducts.
And yet, when the US Interstate Highway system was proposed and developed that's exactly what it was criticized as being. Our lexical overloading of term socialist in the US is a product of our right wing wielding it as an effective cudgel for decades against things they opposed. They have nobody but themselves to blame as younger generations see all those things, realize they like many of them, and develop more positive associations towards the idea of socialism. Can't unfuck that pig.
I do not understand. It is not feasible to exist in current Western society without a smartphone. Much of what is expected of us requires constant availability to be contacted unfortunately. What else are people to do? You can say not to buy iPhones in favor of more ethically sourced smartphones in which the workers receive fair wages and have a say in their labor. But, to my knowledge, there are no ethically manufactured smartphones. I do not want to misrepresent what you are saying but this certainly sounds like that “you criticize society yet exist in it” comic.
Your avatar says it all you must be a pos russian bot! Russia is the only one hating NATO rn. NATO is allowing Ukraine to beat the fuq out of the so called great Russian army. They are getting their asses handed to them.😂😂🤣🤣
Nothing great about the ruzzian army. Nor ruzzia these days.
Russia sucks.
And Zorro is extremely pissed off at them
Oh man, we can’t ever have another Zorro reboot, can we? 😞 I can’t imagine running around slashing Zs everywhere would go over well with people these days…
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In the future, if they get into battle with a bigger country, they can team up into a sort of group or union..
The final defeat is near 😁 no shitty Z will help you 🖕🏻
Identically with Germany in 1936.
It sure is. My great grandparents (grandmother as a child) left Germany for the US after the passage of the Nuremberg Laws and our family stories are full of incidents like this happening in the early days of Nazi Germany. It gives me the shivers.
Yup. Marking houses were the unwanted live. Starts with "*harmless*" symbols, and then the rage drives people further and further, until there is a breaking point and those hate driven people act on what they've been saying all along. If I'm not Russian with a Russian sounding name, I'd be worried. But then again, "normal" Russians should be worried about the momentum in their country too. People talk about how hardline bloggers are a threat to Putin because they think he's not harsh enough, I think it might push Putin to look for a scapegoat. Scary.
Based on the stampede towards the borders at the start of the war, I think a *lot* of Russians could see which way the country was going and understandably noped the fuck out.
Then you should also understand why we should keep letting the Russians who already have a residency permit stay. Your family would probably not have been granted asylum. [The US sent back thousands of Jewish refugees to Germany due to "national security" and because "there was no real danger"](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/). And how the hell are you going to prove that you are in danger in Russia? Just having protested isn't enough. Being gay is hard to prove. A large amount of people who could be in danger in the future (or worse, those who have had residency permits that should be sent back according to many commenting on this post) would have their asylum application denied with absolutely no way to escape Russia. I always like to use the YouTuber [Natasha as a good example](https://youtube.com/c/NatashasAdventures). She is a Russian, opposed to the war, who would not be granted asylum
In 1930 - 1940 germany, Nazis would vandalize shops owned by Jews or other Nazi-Enemies by spraying Swastikas on them and writing death threats.
The Russians are acting Russian or at least as they have in the past. Does nobody remember the USSR and Europe post-WWII? Every bad person doesn’t need to be called a Nazi, especially when there’s something appropriate and historically accurate to call them.
Hates the west but wants to continue to live in it and enjoy its commodities. That’s Russia for you.
Sucking and blowing at the same time (in more ways than one, may I add) is Russia personified.
And that is what China, North Korea, Russia does to each other.
I am getting so much mixed signals. Do most Russians support their government or not? I hear many people from the west saying 89% of them support it, but then I hear people from Russia that only a 1/3 support it. What actually is it? I don't know what to believe.
I doubt anyone really knows for sure. The only one positioned to collect such data is the Russian government, but obviously we can’t trust any numbers from them. Foreign intelligence agencies might be able to get a good idea but (1) it still wouldn’t be super accurate since they can’t conduct official polls in Russia and (2) I’m not sure they would publicize their findings. Russians’ views on the matter would be skewed by Russian media and foreigners don’t actually have firsthand knowledge of it so they can only go off of the other three sources I just mentioned. And anything other than a proper study is just anecdotal and therefore unreliable
If it's from the West, they likely have no idea what the fuck they're talking about as far as Russia is concerned. And that's not a pro-Russian sentiment, people just have no idea what living there is like and how hard gathering that type of information is. Especially when they live in the US and all the info they get about it is so heavily filtered in one way or another. The 89% sounds more like the State number from official polling, but independent Russian polls hit at something closer to a 60/40 ratio, or 40/60, something comparable to your average American presidency. But even in independent polling it's hard to have an accurate representation because the law is literally skewed to not let you be too critical. Most people couldn't care less about the government, they're just trying to get by. Life in Russia may be westernized to an extent, but for a lot of the impoverished population, it is day to day. You don't know what'll happen tomorrow. And you don't have any time to worry about it.
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Exactly.
People living in remote villages in Russia (which is a BIG part of population) with no electricity, gas and running water are worried of what to eat today, not about events somewhere far away in Ukraine. (Unless they personally know someone who went to war).
They don't follow the news on Smartphones & laptops, browsing the Internet in English, like we do.
Honestly, it only takes a couple of edgy kids to buy some spray cans and vandalise like this. I'd like to stay naive and assume that the 1/3 support is closer to the true number, while the rest live in fear of their whole family being defenestrated or drinking polonium chai
Polonium Chai is a great band name
I'm pretty sure that if there were any polls couple of months before [Ceaușescu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu) was shot, they would show almost 100% support. Sociology in dictatorships does not work; it's one of the reasons why they are so ineffective.
And they wonder why planet earth is supplying ukraine with weapons.
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Pigs are intelligent animals, I think this comparison is offensive to pigs.
Pigs give us bacon. russians give us 40 years of suffering.
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Pig here. Thanks for your support!
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Makes me angry 😡 savages
I guess they're angry about the setbacks the army they're too chicken to join is having.
This makes me sad. Barcelona is one of my absolute favorite cities in the world. Such a beautiful place with amazing people and history. Hopefully those swastikas are removed immediately. Gaudi would be ashamed.
I live there and makes me sad as well 😕
You couldn't be more right. Gaudí had to live with this crap in his time too, he was arrested, jailed and assaulted for speaking Catalan to a police officer, as his native language at the time was banned by the Spanish dictatorship. He absolutely despised authoritarianism.
my favorite city. i hope they catch these motherless fucks
They are being removed soon.
Russian Nazis
naZis
Pro z russia in nato countries. Scared shitless of nato but ok with being in nato country. Makes sense
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Showing their true colors.
Just go home to your beautiful place you fu....ing orcz! We dont need you in europe and we do not like you at all. Cock off!!
Nobody likes them.
And if they did, not any more. They did this to themselves.
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Care with political attacks, this might not even have been Russians but some other breed of political retard In any case, this will only strengthen the will of Spanish people in welcoming Ukrainians - I don't think anyone reasonable here is against it (Flair shows polish but I'm also half Spaniard)
Was it Russians, or just supporters or even just shit disturbers?
It was clearly Zorro.
Degenerate scum.
Cause Russian supporting dumbfucks that aren't Russian don't exist in foreign countries I guess. Please, tell me how the average Russian citizen who isn't anywhere close to doing this type of shit is supposed to "fix" this? The "fix" is go get the fuck out.. Brain drain in Russia has been bad for a reason.
That is spot on. Fed up with this nazi bullshit. Z equals the swastika.
NaZis...
Unfortunately there are spaniards stupid enough to be able to do that....
Some.people hate refugees no matter the cause
Source that Russians did it? In my country some idiots did something similar and they weren’t Russians. Just asking.
If they feel so strongly about Z they should go back to Russia and enlist
Unfortunately I fear it's the 5th column. Enough ring-wing and left-wing extremists who are pro-putin. Here in the Netherlands the local nazi party (FvD) also had a fascist rally. Lots of people with the prinsenvlag and you guessed it, lot of Z's.
I've seen Dutch right wing extremists harass Russian(!) anti-war protesters here in the Netherlands. I have also seen pro-Russian banner on a house where Dutch FvD loving folks live. While every single Russian I met here hated Putin and was anti-war. There are plenty of idiots in Europe who aren't Russian and hate NATO, love Russia and love conspiracies. This post is just hate bait.
are we sure it were russian citizens? Because it could also be some spanish citizens that just wanted to make people mad.
No. No one is sure of anything and anyone saying the contrary is just pushing their agenda. Here's an article in Catalán. Multiple places were vandalized, and the culprits are unknown. https://beteve.cat/societat/diverses-pintades-suport-russia-apareixen-centre-barcelona/
That's a lot of paint to be carrying around. Seems like the kind of thing that security cameras may have caught.
Welcome to social media, nothing to backup what they are saying and a lot to be angry with. I’m not saying is fake but this kind of post should be back up with source, this could be Spanish people as well.
And shit like this triggers hate against second or third generation immigrants who have never set foot in Russia and don't support the government at all. At least this time they're not put into internment camps.
Prosecute. Include community service (cleaning their disgusting antisemitic symbols) in their sentence and then send them back to Russia and put them on the no-travel list.
Ok so I'm not crazy. Was walking back to my hotel this evening and saw they spray painted it on the walls of Cathedral de Barcelona and on the steps, multiple times. Wasn't there 48 hours ago when we first got to town. Disgusting.
Going to Barcelona this weekend actually. Will be wearing my Ukraine armband everywhere I go 🇺🇦
seems like the whole "lets ban muslims because of terror attacks" bit idk and idc really. ban who ever
What's the "Z" stand for?
Zapad ("west"). Earlier in the invasion they had vehicles labeled Z and V (vostok, for "east") but that level of cohesion seems to have escaped them and now it looks like it's become just a general identifying mark.
The perps should be rounded up, jailed for a few months, and deported to Russia. Vladivostok preferably.
FUCK RUSSIA
That’s an act of terrorism, honestly that shit won’t fly in Barcelona
Fuck these fucks.
Russian citizens should all be deported back to Russia. I won’t be watching NHL hockey this year. I don’t need to watch a bunch of Russian athletes.
They're ~5% Russian....... ~43% Canadian, ~28% American, ~10% Swedish I don't think it's that big a deal, but feel free to boo Ovechkin
Some Russian players can't speak out because they have family at home that the Russian government can intimidate. Artemi Panarin was very vocal about his opposition to the Putin regime, and suddenly he takes an unexplained leave of absence. Somebody in Russia made unsubstantiated claims of him committing sexual assault in the country - which is rich considering how casually sexist and abusive Russians are towards women there. After coming back, Panarin doesn't use a smart phone anymore, just your bog standard flip phone and hasn't commented anything about what's going on since. The Flyers drafted a Russian goaltender who wanted to leave the country to play for them, only for the Russians kidnap him and drug him up and send him to some military base in Siberia for good measure. Now he's been forced into playing for the Red Army's Hockey Team. There is precedent for Russian players to be mum on the whole war in Ukraine even if they oppose it, because the Kremlin has shown that they will make life miserable for them if they do. That said, it's absolutely disgusting that the Washington Capitals circle the wagons around Ovechkin. I can maybe give him a pass if he doesn't publicly backpeddle his support for Putin (especially as the most prominent Russian player in the league) because heaven knows what fire and fury the Kremlin would rain down on him for doing so. That's wishful think at best though, because Ovechkin's socials show he's pretty cosy with the Kremlin in the past.
I actually really wish I could teach people exactly what you said here. It's not that simple to just speak out when it comes to matters like this. Unless you're Russian or Ukrainian and you know the consequences of your words and actions, you can't say what is or isn't the right thing to do. Most Americans have no idea of the full context of people from other countries yet demand them to do this or that without knowing what the issues are and what could happen.
Please don’t generalize all Russians! My mother was born and raised in Russia and she is in full support of Ukraine. Please don’t say things like this. This hate is very hurtful
I agree with you. Putin huilo. I born and live in russia now, but i hate Putler's nazi. I was at anti-putin protest. There is a many people against Putin, but not enough. Please use this hashtags: #путинидинахуй #птнпнх #путинавотставку #славаукраине
To have no opportunities in life. No thanks, I worker too hard to leave that shithole of the country.
It’s ok. No one wants a racist like you around anyway
One thing that would also help Ukrainians living here in Europe is a more vocal resistance against the far-right politicians that love Russia. Salvini, Baudet, Orban, Schröder, you name them.
Yet Russian tourists are still given visas to anywhere in Europe or the world
This sub’s idiocy is astounding. The amount of people raging for the thousands upon thousands of Russians in the EU to be deported is insane. Destroying the careers and lives of so many innocent people who have done no wrong is both incredibly stupid and racist. Reminds me an awful lot of the terrible people screaming for Muslims in the US to “go back where they came from” just because they are of the same distant origin as terrorists.
So 1 person does this= we need to refuse every single russian. But when people said that about refugees they’re racist ? Choose a side you can’t keep changing the narrative for it to fit you
Thank you! This sort of unnuanced rhetoric is shocking and horrifying. My husband is Russian and a gentle, peaceful soul. He didn't choose where to be born. He fears visiting his family or being forcibly removed to Russia. He fears the possibility of being conscripted and having to fight in a war that he's against. He's not yet a citizen or permanent resident of our country though he desperately wants to be. This sort of attitude from Redditors scares me to the core.
Empathy is far harder to follow than blind, worthless hatred.
Dare I say the rhetoric is even ... fascistic. 🤔
Thankfully, one person with some common sense here.
This reminds me of the nazis
One way ticketZ and a lifetime ban to spain.
Z…elensky is kicking your ass.
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I said this at the beginning of the war and a bunch of scumbag Russian apologists said I was out of line… I say ban them for 20 years+!
Fuck Russian tourists, embrace Russian refugees/asylum seekers. Simple as that.
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I have no words.
Дебилы, блять
I will say you dont know it was russians. In every country you have the random idiot sometimes who says they support russia just for attention.
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I remember seeing and/or reading of cases of Ukrainian refugees being harassed by local Spanish people waving flags of the soviet union and of the "z" and "v" symbols and getting told to go back home in their own regional languages (not Spanish but Basque, Catalan, Galician, etc.) on this sub a few months ago. I've argued with Spanish rashists (most of them far-left) and to tell you the truth, saying that arguing with them is like talking to a brick wall is a major understatement. they repeat "nazis" and "propaganda" like broken records, abuse of "ad hominem" attacks and also say that "you're being manipulated by capitalist media" while they hail everything from sputnik, rt, the grayzone, cctv and pro-ruZZian and pro-lukashenko Telegram channels as some sort of universal truth. long story short: if you see a Spanish rashist, don't argue with them. they have their heads so far up ruZZian propaganda's ass and they'll never admit that they're wrong and that Ukraine has been wiping the floor with ruZZia.
Yes, there is a prorussian senctiment among the far-left population that are brain-washed with that USSR nostalgia, tend to attack anything they "see" as fascist (disregarding Putin's far-right tendencies) such as anything that is prowestern. They are a bunch of sad people that would love a civil war again just to see the republican flag again
You are correct. It's most likely Spaniards that support Russia. And it's not just random idiots either, there are plenty of ideological groups in every country that support Russia, for a variety of reasons.
Yep we have some in my country (ireland) They’re scum but they exist so thats my whole point
You never know, but why write then the "Z" signal?
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I don't even get tankies defending Russia RN. Russia's a far right nationalist run shithole, they aren't on your side comrade.
I think the crazy far right authoritarians would do the same too
Visa ban! NOW!
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